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CLIENT CONSULTANT (QRC) PROJECT DETAILS

Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD


Package No.:

Contract No.: GC21110000

COMMENT DISPOSITION FORM (CDF)


Qatar Petroleum District: TECHNICAL SUBMITTAL FOR DEW POINT STUDY
Title: Reviewing Dept.: Arab Engineering Bureau (QRC)
OF STAIRCASE AND LOBBY AT TOWER 3

Doc. No.: 4384-QPD-9-TS-H-0003-0 Rev.: 0 Disposition Dept.: Al-Balagh Trading & Cont. Co. WLL
Review Date: 18/04/2023 Disposition Date: Select date.

Status 10, 2,
S. No. Comments Dispositions (Contractor) Status/Remarks
3, 6, 1 and 11.
Level 20

CONTRACTOR to check and clarify the terrace area on level


20 that was not included in the report for review.
Noted.
Terrace area on Level 20 will not cause any condensation
Rev.1
1. 2 issue as staircase is far away from this open area. OPEN
Door access (in/out) points between offices/corridor to the
Further, no fans/damper/louvers are there which may
Terrace area shown on ASB drawing. Possibility/chances of
cause infiltration of air through this open area.
air infiltration to the offices which can cause damage to
valuable finishes, artwork, and office equipment. Contractor
to clarify.

2. 2 Noted. Open
 Clarify the DFCU mentioned is newly proposed or DFCU mentioned is base-built unit.
existing base build unit. DFCU is not having EC motor.
 Contractor to check and verify the installed base build Base build details are with QRC/ MCFM only
DFCU is having EC Motor.
 If the DFCU mentioned is base build unit. CONTRACTOR
to provide the Equipment tag reference number and
DDC reference number for clarity.
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CLIENT CONSULTANT (QRC) PROJECT DETAILS
Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD
Package No.:

Contract No.: GC21110000

Status 10, 2,
S. No. Comments Dispositions (Contractor) Status/Remarks
3, 6, 1 and 11.

REV.1
1. “DFCU is not having EC motor”. CONTRACTOR to
update the attached schematic drawing accordingly.
Provide comprehensive FCU control philosophy with
the scope of work demarcation for review.
2. Previous comment not complied. CONTRACTOR to
provide the base build FCU/VAV Equipment tag
reference number and DDC reference number for
clarity.

3. 2 Contractor to clarify the extent of modification of the Noted. Open


existing hvac system. Submit copy of schematic diagram and Extent of modification will not effect existing HVAC
plan layout highlighting the affected base build system with system as VRV/ split units will be installed which will be
the proposed modification for review. standalone installation.
Schematic copy & layout will be submitted once reports
Rev.1 are approved.
CONTRACTOR to provide a justification of the proposed
VRV/Split units over the previous proposal which is FCU
(chilled water type) for review. Include electrical power
supply, control, and refrigerant leak detection requirement
with respect to the capacity/capability of existing base build
MEP, BMS system.

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CLIENT CONSULTANT (QRC) PROJECT DETAILS
Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD
Package No.:

Contract No.: GC21110000

Status 10, 2,
S. No. Comments Dispositions (Contractor) Status/Remarks
3, 6, 1 and 11.

Clarify the VAV mentioned is newly proposed or existing


base build unit for review.
Noted.
Rev.1
4. 2 Please note the correction from VAV to CAV in all pages Open
Provide scope of work demarcation of proposed the
which are existing base-build units only.
proposed modification of the control philosophy of the
existing CAV/FCU’s serving the service lobby.

CONTRACTOR to attach layout sketch plan (Mechanical,


Electrical, Plumbing) of the proposed FCU (chilled water type)
level 22, 15, 8, and 1 for review.
Noted.
Rev.1 Will be submitted separately once report is approved.
Please refer to reply
5. 2 “VRF FCU solution with outdoor units located at roof Open
CONTRACTOR to provide a justification of the proposed “VRF
level and Mechanical level” is also proposed also as an
FCU solutions” over the previous proposal which is FCU
alternate to CHW FCU’s.
(chilled water type) for review. Include electrical power
supply, control, and refrigerant leak detection requirement
with respect to the capacity/capability of existing base build
MEP, BMS system.
Indicate a demarcation between existing base build
services/system and proposed modification for review. Noted.
6. 2 Open
Will be submitted separately once report is approved.
Rev.1 Refer to rev.1 comments on items above.
CONTRACTOR to conduct a comprehensive actual site survey
verification of existing base build services and finishes that will
7. 6 Noted. Open
be affected and highlight to client.
Rev.1 Refer to rev.1 comments on items above.
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CLIENT CONSULTANT (QRC) PROJECT DETAILS
Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD
Package No.:

Contract No.: GC21110000

Status 10, 2,
S. No. Comments Dispositions (Contractor) Status/Remarks
3, 6, 1 and 11.
QATAR ENERGY COMMENTS REV. 0:
8. 2 Section-2 of the Submittal: Please include the wind data for Noted and updated in Section 4.01, in report No.
Peak humid month of July, Aug and September 4092_DPS_T3_R1.

1. The comment states that dust ingress might damage the QDC reported observation about existing weather louver
Mechanical equipment inside the room due to non available and proposed sand trap louver in fan room to protect
weather louver. However, rest of the pressurization fan are the new motorized dampers from sand and silt ingress
exposed to outdoor without any enclosure or dust protection. and protect from clogging, thus preventing ambient air
infiltration into staircase and lobby. Weather louver is
assigned with priority 2 (optional) in Section 9 of the
report No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1. A semi-annual
maintenance Plan is proposed for pressurization fan
motorized damper in section 8.01, 8.02 and 8.03 of the
report No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1.

2. The proposed DFCU in the staircase is with heater similar to a Refer to Section 8.01, 8.02, 8.03, 8.07, 8.11-8.16, 8.17
modified dehumidifier. There is difficulty for the source of and 8.23, in report No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1, to stop
chilled water as the building was built without provision for ambient air infiltration in staircase & lobby.
such DFCU in the staircase. The DFCU will not contribute Proposed FCU (chilled water and VRF option) in staircase
positive pressure to counter any leakage of outside air since it is for recirculation of air in the staircase and to maintain
will work only to recirculate the air while removing moisture. temperature above the dew point. The proposed
Please submit another alternative which will not violate QCDD solution does not violate QCDD requirement. Refer to
requirements. Section 8.20a of the report No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1.

Noted.
Section 3. (Project Overview) of the Submittal: Contractor to Detailed drawings will be submitted by design
clarify who will be developing the detail drawings as per the consultant.
current Dew point study outcome, as QDC scope as quoted

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CLIENT CONSULTANT (QRC) PROJECT DETAILS
Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD
Package No.:

Contract No.: GC21110000

Status 10, 2,
S. No. Comments Dispositions (Contractor) Status/Remarks
3, 6, 1 and 11.
Section-3 is limited to Dew-point study
Noted and updated in Section 6.03, in report No.
Section 6 of the submittal: Please also Add Layout of Fans and 4092_DPS_T3_R1.
Show the relative Wind direction in Peak Humid months to
understand the impact of Wind Direction.
Noted and updated in Section 7.19 and 8.19 of the
Section 7.14 of the submittal: A space sensor is more suitable report No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1.
rather than the thermostat in order to provide the setpoint
only from the BMS only. Operation of CAV with space temperature sensor to shut
Currently we are proposing to restore AC to this area via CAV, off dampers is outlined in Section 8.19 of the report No.
QDC to clarify the impact and provide recommendation. 4092_DPS_T3_R1.

Noted and updated in Section 8.20b, in report No.


Section 7.15 of the submittal: Remedial action to be provided 4092_DPS_T3_R1.
to address the issue related to excess moisture content of 5.6
%. at Stairecase-2 of Tower-8.
Refer 7.21 section of the report, Storm water retention
Section 7.16 of the submittal: QDC to clarify the impact of over a long period can absorb into the fabric, causing
'Roofing drainage related maintenance' on Staircase damage to building material, and increase risk of
condensation. condensation. Refer to BS 5250:2021 for impact of
precipitation on building condensation. The driest
weather prevails in Qatar in the month of June, July,
August & September. On this basis the roof treatment is
assigned priority 2 (optional) in Section 9, of the report
No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1.

Noted.
Section 8 of the submittal: Contractor to confirm the inclusion Confirmed for BMS monitoring of newly installed smoke
of BMS monitoring in their current work execution at site for dampers.
new smoke dampers for Staircase and Lobby fans
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CLIENT CONSULTANT (QRC) PROJECT DETAILS
Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD
Package No.:

Contract No.: GC21110000

Status 10, 2,
S. No. Comments Dispositions (Contractor) Status/Remarks
3, 6, 1 and 11.
Noted.
Section 8.01, 8.02 8.03 of the submittal: Contractor to include Ducts and joints are air-tight which will not allow any
the specific site condition for Ducts, flexibles joints condition exfiltration. Sealant applied is UL approved only.
for air tightness and sealant issue. Site condition of Ducts,
flexibles joints and sealant should be clearly highlighted as part
of this report
QDC reported observation about existing weather louver
Section 8.4 of the submittal: Sand trap louver is proposed in the and proposed sand trap louver in fan room to protect
pressurization fan room, is this really required as Smoke rated the new motorized dampers from sand and silt ingress
dampers are already proposed in the downstream duct of the and protect from clogging, thus preventing ambient air
fans infiltration into staircase and lobby. Weather louver is
assigned with priority 2 (optional) in Section 9 of the
report No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1. A semi-annual
maintenance Plan is proposed for pressurization fan
motorized damper in section 8.01, 8.02 and 8.03 of the
report No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1.

Heat gain sources inside lobby include lighting gains.


Section 8.5 of the submittal: Setpoint temperature noted for Refer to Section 7.18 & 7.19 of the report No.
machine room. Setpoint set point temperature for lobby is 4092_DPS_T3_R1.
proposed as 28 degree C. since lobby is in the middle of the
floor surrounded by an ambient office temperature of 21
degree C, please clarify how this will be achieved (in the
absence of any significant load in the lobby).
Thermostat give two signals for temperature and
Section 8.08 of the submittal: A space sensor is more suitable compare with set point temperature for operation of
rather than the thermostat in order to provide the setpoint FCU as outlined in Section 8.18a and 8.18b of the report
only from the BMS. No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1.

Noted and updated in Section 8.19, in report No.


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CLIENT CONSULTANT (QRC) PROJECT DETAILS
Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD
Package No.:

Contract No.: GC21110000

Status 10, 2,
S. No. Comments Dispositions (Contractor) Status/Remarks
3, 6, 1 and 11.
Section 8.09 of the submittal: A space sensor is more suitable 4092_DPS_T3_R1.
rather than the thermostat in order to provide the setpoint
only from the BMS.
Following the proposed remedial measures outlined in
Section 8.10 of the submittal: QDC to elaborate this statement the report, it is proposed to conduct pressure test on the
in Section 8.10, "Pressure test is proposed in each staircase for staircases for infiltration assessment.
assessment of infiltration flow." Refer to Section 8.23, in report No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1.
Section 8.10 of the submittal:
Refer to Note in Section 8.20a of the report No.
1. Please provide the basis of selecting the proposed FCU's 4092_DPS_T3_R1, stating CFD simulation to confirm final
locations in the staircase, A detail design is required for the No. Of FCU’s, location, capacity, and heater sizing.
proposed FCU’s in the staircase including the location,
capacities, heater sizing, temperature set points . A CFD
analysis will be an appropriate guidance to finalize the location,
capacity, heater sizing, temperature set points etc. of the
proposed FCU, Contractor to submit the same ad part of the
current report. Noted.
If CHW FCU strategy is adopted, all details including
2. Further, Strategy/concept for Chilled water Tap-off form schematics /drawings/ drainage/ electrical will be
existing chilled water network to be studied and clarified, provided.
Similarly, Condensate drainage and electrical termination If VRV strategy is adopted, same will follow.
strategy to be included, Options considered for dehumidification includes chilled
3. Other alternative to be studied for cooling/dehumidification water FCU beside VRF system. Refer to Section 8.20a of
of the staircase. the report No. 4092_DPS_T3_R1.

Remedial measures proposed to stop ambient air


Section 8.10 of the submittal: Impact of specific adjacent AHU infiltration inside staircase and propsoed FCU’s for
room (if any) on the staircase condensation to be included and dumidification maintaining 28oC temperature at 55% RH
remedial measures to be provided, this has to checked and in report 4092_DPS_T3_R1 outlined in sections 8.01,
verified floor by floor as their is a difference in layout (i.e. high 8.02, 8.03, 8.07, 8.11-8.16, 8.17, 8.23 and 8.20a
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CLIENT CONSULTANT (QRC) PROJECT DETAILS
Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD
Package No.:

Contract No.: GC21110000

Status 10, 2,
S. No. Comments Dispositions (Contractor) Status/Remarks
3, 6, 1 and 11.
rise and low rise)

For further comments, please refer to the attached commented


copy of the submittal.

Please find attached advance comment from our end, official


comments will be shared to the contractor.

QaterEnergy Comments: Rev. 1

1. CFD analysis is not part of the current report, FCU locations respectively. Under these conditions across the shared
and capacities are still not defined and provided as wall there is no risk of condensation.
part of the report. This report shall finalize the proposed FCU
capacity and location.
The detail drawings for the DFCU shall be developed and chilled
water source shall be finalized and defined.

2. Section-7.17 of the submittal - AHU Room at level 19


adjacent to Staircase 1: Contractor has not identified the
lower return-air temperature (21 - 23 deg C) at AHU room as
one of the possible reasons for Stair-case
condensation. Contractor shall investigate the above and
provide remedial measures as part of the current report.
Only one level i.e. Level-19 is identified where the AHU room is
located adjacent to Staircase, however, there are
several instances where the AHU rooms are adjusted to
staircase-1 at tower-3, all such level shall be clearly
identified as part of this report.

Reviewer Name: Jovienel Q. Tercero, Lead Mechanicl Engineer, QRC Signature: Date: 05/06/2023
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Project Name: EPIC FOR MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENT 1 AT QPD
Package No.:

Contract No.: GC21110000

Jeffer Largosa-QA/QC Insp., QRC


Sonny Godoy-APM, QRC
Approver Name: Signature: Date: 05/06/2023
Shibu George-PM, QRC

Dispositioner Name: Contractor Representative Signature: Date: Select date.

Document Status: 10 = Approved 2 = Approved with Comments (Incorporate comments 3 = Not Approved (Incorporate comments and
(Resubmission not and resubmit - work may proceed subject to resubmit - work shall not proceed)
required) incorporation of comments)
6 = For Information 1 = Approved without Comments (Resubmission 11 = Cancellation Accepted
Only required - work may proceed)

Note 1: A unique CDF serial number will be allocated with document initial submission; subsequent revisions will be reflected in CDF revisions (applicable at least by QRC and QP)
Note 2: Originator - QP/ QRC
Note 3: Please encode separate number for each CDF in the footer with revision number

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