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Latter-Day Saint Doctrine in The Bible
Latter-Day Saint Doctrine in The Bible
RESPONDING TO CONCERNS WHILE TEACHING THE DOCTRINE OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
Introduction
I have been a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints for a little over nine months,
and have given myself to serious study of the gospel for about two years. I will not profess to be some
master theologian, however, one of the talents I feel I have been given from the Lord is knowledge of
the scriptures. Memorizing scriptures, knowing where things are in the standard works and so on have
come easier for me than for most people. Writing this, I feel, is part of developing that talent. I honestly
am writing this more for myself than anyone else. I hope that those reading this will be able to get
something out of it. In this guide, we will take a look at our doctrines, proving them with the Bible. We
will also look at common objections and responses. This guide is intended more for missionaries
(although I hope a general audience will find it useful as well), and following that, we will follow the
order of the first three lessons as found in Preach My Gospel, then go onto other objections people may
have.
Resolving Concerns
Let's first talk about the practice of resolving concerns, and how it differs from Bible bashing. People are
naturally curious about us and our church; many of them have questions about us and our beliefs. A lot
of the time, these questions are well mannered and deserve a good, scripturally based answer. Other
times, these questions are intended to lead you to a false conclusion and tear down your faith. When
encountering "Bible bashers", you must be on your toes, and usually it's most effective to not engage at
all. As a missionary serving in the heart of the Bible Belt, I have had more than my fair share of chances
to bash. I have found it almost entirely ineffective as well as physically, emotionally and spiritually
exhausting. Towards the beginning of my mission, I thought that if I acquired the scriptural knowledge
to not make a fool of myself in a bash, then I would enjoy bashing more. This turned out to be an
entirely false precept. The degree that I knew the scriptures had absolutely no bearing on how much I
enjoyed bashing. There have only been a handful of times that I felt like bashing was not a complete
waste of time. The practice of "Bible bashing" is not without scriptural precedent, however.
The.following are quotes and scriptures about this practice and when it is appropriate:
“If a situation arises in which the Elders cannot in honor refuse a challenge to debate an issue, as when
by withdrawing from the discussion they would lose their investigators, then it may be proper to go
ahead and engage in the debate or discussion. In such instances, if the Elders are as informed as they
should be, they always come off victorious. The truth is with the Saints and the truth will stand of its own
self.” Elder Bruce R. McConkie
D&C 18:20 Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil.
Please keep in mind the difference between bashing and resolving concerns. You'll have a much higher
success rate doing the latter. Your goal should be to win hearts, not arguments.
So, with that in mind Elders and sisters, let's get into it!
Atonement
John 3:16-17 For God so loved...
Romans 5:11 the only instance of the word atonement in reference to Christ’s sacrifice
Matthew 20:28 Christ came to give his life a ransom for many
Christ’s Church
A lot of Christianity teach that Christ didn’t establish a church. I hear this often from Pentecostals. They
teach that the Apostles established the first church, and that they did that on the day of Pentecost in
Acts chapter 2. First off, we will discuss the errors in that view, then we will discuss the aspects of
Christ’s Church. In Acts 2:41 it simply says that they added to the church on the day of Pentecost, not
started. This implies that the church was already around.
To prove that Christ established a church, show them Matthew 18:15-17, where Christ instructs His
Apostles to tell things to the Church. What this establishes is that in Christ’s time, there was a Church
that He established and his Apostles were part of that Church. Additionally, Ephesians 4:11-14 outlines
some of the aspects of Christ’s Church. We will talk about those aspects and that scripture again in a
minute. What I want to focus on are two key phrases here. One is "and He gave some" and the other is
"for the perfecting of the saints." Why the first is important is that it tells us that Christ set up these
aspects, and he tells us why in the second phrase. "For the perfecting of the saints" explains that the it
was for the Saints, or members of the Church (see 1 Corinthians 1:2, Ephesians 1:1). So, Christ set up
these different positions to help the members of the Church during his mortal ministry. Let's look at
some of the aspects of the Church he set up:
Another note on this scripture. Some people will tell you (including some Catholics) that apostles and
prophets were temporary positions not meant to be there for long, but let's look at verse 13 "till we all
come in the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God." This very clearly explains that
apostles and prophets were there for much longer than just the first bit of Christ’s church. We have
never come in a unity of the faith; therefore, we still need apostles and prophets. You could also bring
up how important apostles were to the early church, and they did their best to maintain the quorum of
12 by calling more apostles when one died.
What the Catholic church teaches is that there was no apostacy. Peter was the first Pope, and he gave
the authority to Pope Linus, who gave it to the next Pope and to the next and so on. Let's quickly discuss
the only scripture they might pull on you:
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my
church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
What they'll claim is that Peter is the rock that he will build his church, and that the gates of hell
wouldn't prevail against the church, so there could be no apostacy. We see this differently. The rock that
he was referencing here was revelation, not Peter. If you read this scripture in context, it’s talking about
how Peter knew Christ was the son of God because of revelation. Then Christ says, “And I say also unto
thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock [revelation] I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall
not prevail against it.” He doesn't say "thou art Peter, and I will build my church on you". Additionally,
we get clarification on what the rock is in 1 Corinthians 10:4. Christ is the Rock, and he leads by
revelation. Additionally, Peter could not have possibly been the rock or foundation. As we read in 1
Corinthians 3:11 there is no other foundation besides Christ.
Now, let's further approach the Catholic view, then talk about the actual great apostacy. Catholicism
claims that after Pope Peter, Pope Linus was God’s chosen leader for the whole church in about 67 AD.
If Linus was the one to preside over the whole church, it would be hard to understand why it was John
that was receiving revelation for the church at about 98 AD on the island of Patmos.
Let's respond to those scriptures. First, take Exodus 33:20. If you look back at verse 11, it reads, "And
the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend". So if God spoke to Moses
face to face in verse 11, verse 20 can’t mean that no one can ever see God. You can’t get too much
clearer than that. While we're at it, let's talk about other people who saw God face to face.
Now let's look at the scripture in John 1:18. To respond to that, let's look at John 6:46 which clarifies it
by saying "save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father". Now let's turn to 3 John 1:11 to find out
what it means to be "of God". In 3 John 1:11, we read "Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that
which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God."
After all this, we clearly see that people can see God face to face and not die.
2. There are no more prophets and/or John (the Baptist) was the last prophet.
This objection comes from a few scriptures. Matthew 11:13 and Luke 16:16 both basically say that the
law and prophets were until John. Additionally, Hebrews 1:1-2 basically says that God spoke to men by
prophets in times of old, but in these last days has spoken to us by his Son.
To counter the scriptures in Matthew and Luke, explain that this is referring to the way prophets in the
Old Testament and through John spoke about the Law of Moses. Now that Christ has come, He explains
that He is the end of the Law of Moses and He speaks for God. Notice that these come from the Gospels,
where the Savior is physically on the earth.
For both the Scriptures in the gospels and the one in Hebrews, I would suggest the following passages.
If God worked through prophets in the past, wouldn't he work through prophets now?
You could also go the following route to prove that there were prophets after Christ.
Luke 11:49 tells us that Christ will send prophets and apostles, and they will be rejected.
Ephesisans 4:11-14 tells us that Christ called prophets in his church.
Revelation 11:3, 7-10 also tell us that before the second coming, two prophets will be killed in
Jerusalem
Acts 13:1, Acts 15:32, Acts 11:27-28 These show prophets called after Christ’s death
3. The next objection you might have thrown your way is that no restoration was prophesied of .
This is wrong. Let's prove why.
Acts 3:19-21 tells us that there will be a time of refreshing and restitution
Ephesians 1:10 tells us of a dispensation of the fullness of times
Malachi 4:5-6 tells us that Elijah the prophet will come in the last days and fill a special role
Revelation 14:6 tells us John saw an angel will the fullness of the everlasting gospel to preach.
Why would there be an angel with the fullness of the gospel if it wasn’t going to be lost? Modern-day
revelation has revealed that this angel was Moroni, who had the fullness of the everlasting gospel
(including the Book of Mormon) that has been brought forth and preached of.
People may also ask where Joseph Smith's name is in the Bible if he was so important. Simply ask them
to point out where Jesus Christ's name was in the Old Testament, and they won’t be able to find it.
Another objection that may come up about the Angel Moroni is a scripture in Galatians 1:8 which says
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
preached unto you, let him be accursed."
To respond to this objection, you have a few options.
1. Ask what other gospel did the angel Moroni preach? (The answer is that he didn’t teach a
different gospel)
2. Point out in Revelation 1:1, John has an angel teach him (there are also many other passages
about the visitation of angels in the New Testament)
3. Point out the context of the scripture. Paul was writing this epistle because the people
weren't teaching correct doctrine and apostacy was creeping into the church. What he was
saying is not to listen to those teaching false doctrines, no matter how grand their claims were.
He was not saying that revelation was bad, because he says in verse 12 of that that chapter that
he learned the gospel through revelation.
1. Revelation 22:18-19 basically says to not add or take away from the words of this book, and
that if you do, God will take your name out of the book of life. This is a classic objection, and the
people that typically use this scripture usually think they know enough to make good arguments,
however the fact that they tried using this scripture reveals how little they know. People that actually
know what they're talking about don’t use this scripture because they know how illogical it is to do so.
There are several different routes of responding to that scripture.
1. Deuteronomy 4:2, Deuteronomy 12:32, and Proverbs 30:5-6 all say the same thing- that you
shouldn't add or take away from these words. If the person that presented you with this
scripture is philosophically consistent, then their argument would mean that everything after
Deuteronomy is false and they're stuck living the Law of Moses. Explain that each book was
once independent and the warning refers simply to that particular book or scroll.
2. The Book of Revelation was written before the Gospel of John and 1st, 2nd and 3rd John. If
that scripture meant that anything written after it is false, that would make the Gospel of John,
as well as 1st, 2nd and 3rd John false. Once again explain that the scripture is just referring to
the sanctity of that particular book.
3. Ask them what book the warning in Revelation is referring to. They will probably say "the
Bible." That would be plausible, but the Bible wasn’t compiled until the fourth century, so there
is no way that this could have been referring to the Bible because the Bible wasn’t around until
over 300 years later. Before then, there were just individual scrolls or manuscripts of individual
writing, and there was no central cannon. So, it would follow that this scripture could only be
referring to the Book of Revelation, not the whole Bible as we know it today.
2. Another objection is the claim that there’s no scriptures in the Bible where that the Book of Mormon
is referred to. Let's discuss where it is prophesied of.
John 14:26 the Holy ghost will teach you all things
Matthew 7:7-8 ask, seek, knock
James 1:5 if any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God
1 Kings 19:11-12 God speaks in a still, small voice
Pre-Mortal Life
Right off the bat, we enter some interesting territory. Teaching a pre-mortal existence is a damnable
heresy in the Catholic church, but luckily for us, the concept of a pre-mortal existence is taught all over
in the Bible. We’ll look first at some of the scriptures used as an objection to the concept, and then
those that support it.
First, before explaining pre-mortal life, you may need to establish two important doctrines. The first
being that we our body and spirit are two different things. To do this, use the following scriptures.
The second important doctrine to establish is that our spirit's father is God. To prove this, use the
following scriptures.
Romans 8:16 the spirit bears witness to our spirit that we are children of God
Hebrews 12:9 give reverence to the father of spirits (God)
Acts 17:29 we are the offspring of God
Now that you've established those two important concepts, you can go on to explain premortal life with
the following scriptures.
Jeremiah 1:4-5 before I formed thee in the belly, I knew thee. Some will say that this scripture
simply means that God knew of Jeremiah, but the scriptures says that he "knew" him. How
could he have known Jeremiah if Jeremiah hadn't already existed?
Job 1:6 the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord.
Job 38:4-7 the Lord asks Job where he was when he laid the foundations of the world, when all
the sons of God shouted for joy. This scripture proves we were around a long time before we
were born.
John 3:13 no one can go up to heaven unless he comes down. So, we were in heaven before
Proverbs 8:22-31 this scripture talks about how even before the creation, we were with God. I
love this scripture, it's actually one of my favorites to use because it so clearly and beautifully
demonstrates where we were before this life
Ecclesiastes 12:7 the spirit will return to the God who gave it life. You can’t exactly return to
somewhere you haven't already been.
John 9:1-3 the disciples ask Christ if a man who had been blind since birth sinned to bring upon
himself his blindness. Christ doesn't tell his apostles that he couldn't have sinned, but instead
Christ tells them that it was so God could show forth his power. Christ didn’t correct them and
say that he couldn't have sinned. This man was blind from birth, therefore, there was
opportunity for him to sin before coming to the earth. The very nature of the apostle’s question
implies an understanding of premortal life.
These are just a few of the scriptures that I like to use. There are plenty more out there though.
The creation
Most people think that God alone created the world. They use these scriptures to make their point.
Genesis 1:1 in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth
Genesis 2:7 the Lord God formed man
Resurrection
The promised resurrection of a physical body is one that isn’t taught in a lot of churches. Many churches
teach that the resurrection is solely of a spiritual nature. Here are the scriptures that they may use to try
to disprove our belief in a physical resurrection.
1 Corinthians 15:50 flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven
1 Corinthians 15:42-44 we will be resurrected to a spiritual body
Judgement
A lot of the objections regarding judgement are about accountability, which we will cover more in depth
in the Gospel of Jesus Christ section. For now, let's talk about the objections people have.
Romans 10:9, 13 if you call on the name of the Lord, you will be saved
John 3:15 whoever believes will be saved
Various other scriptures that say similar things. Now, let's talk about why their interpretations of these
scriptures are incomplete.
Matthew 7:21-23 those that simply call on the name of the Lord will not enter into the kingdom
of heaven, but those that do the will of the Father will
Revelation 20:12 we will be judged according to our works
John 5:22 Christ, not God will judge us
2 Corinthians 5:10 we will be judged on what we did
Matthew 16:27 when Christ comes again, He will reward every man according to his works
Ecclesiastes 12:14 God will bring all works, good and bad into judgement
Degrees of glory
Ah yes, this is probably the most contested point of doctrine out there. You really should never teach
this principle without a scripture. Here are the 3 I use. I won’t even get into objecting scriptures,
because they will pull from anywhere it says heaven, and the Bible says that a lot.
John 14:2-3 many mansions in my Father's house
1 Corinthians 15:40-42 bodies of the glory of sun, moon and stars
2 Corinthians 12:2 a man caught up to the third heaven
Now, let's examine first the idea that confessing the Lord is all you need to do to be saved.
Matthew 7:21-23 Not everyone that says Lord, Lord will go to heaven, only those that do the will
of the Father
Phillipians 2:10-11 (see also Hebrews 14:11) every knee shall bow to Christ and confess to God.
You can point out that in this way, everyone will be saved. Then take the opportunity to talk
about the difference between salvation and exaltation. Preach My Gospel explains it in detail,
but I will summarize. Salvation means that because of Jesus Christ and His grace, all will be
resurrected (1 Corinthians 15:20-22), and receive a perfect, immortal body. But our works
determine where we spend eternity. (Revelation 20:12). Exaltation is to be with God and Christ
and know them perfectly (John 17:3). There are different degrees of glory according to our
works (1 Corinthians 15:40-42). For more clarification on the glory of the sun, see Matthew
13:43.
Faith
Here are some scriptures I like to use to teach about faith.
Hebrews 11:1 faith is the substance of things hoped for, not seen
2 Corinthians 5:7 we are to walk by faith and not sight
Matthew 17:20 if you will have faith as a grain of mustard, you could move this mountain
Hebrews 10:17 faith comes by hearing the word
Repentance
In some denominations, repentance isn’t emphasized. Let's examine some scriptures that teach the
necessity of repentance.
Luke 13:3 unless you repent, you'll perish
Acts 3:19 repent so your sins will be blotted out
2 Corinthians 7:10 godly sorrow works repentance to salvation
Luke 15:7 there is great joy in heaven over the person who repents
Baptism
Christianity is very divided on baptism, both on how it's done, and if it's necessary. Since we've already
talked about the counterpoints to the necessity of baptism (see accountability, faith, grace, works), let’s
here look at scriptures that say baptism is essential.
John 3:5 except a man be born of the water and of the spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of
heaven
Mark 16:16 he that believes and is baptized will be saved
Acts 16:30-33 a man asks what he needs to do to be saved. Paul tells him to believe in Christ,
and he will be saved, then baptized him.
Baptism by immersion
Matthew 3:16-17 when Christ was baptized, he went straightaway out of the water (so he was
first in the water)
John 3:23 John the Baptist baptized in Salim because there was much water there
Romans 6:3-5 the symbolism of baptism is being buried, then raised from the dead (only
immersion symbolizes this, not sprinkling)
Acts 8:38 when Philip baptized the eunuch, they went INTO the water
Infant baptism
The doctrine of infant baptism is unbiblical, and one not practiced in the early church. The conception of
this doctrine started in the late 3rd Century, and went hand in hand with another false doctrine, that of
"original sin." To discuss infant baptism, you must also have a good grasp on the idea of original sin. The
premise of this doctrine is that since baptism is necessary (John 3:5), and since (according to them) we
are all born into sin (see original sin scriptures), infants must be baptized. To refute this doctrine, use the
following scriptures and theological thoughts:
Mark 1:4 tells us that baptism is to be done for the remission of sins and repentance. Let's look
at how that doesn’t apply to infants:
1 John 2:12 little children's sins are forgiven for Christ’s name sake
Romans 4:15 where there is no law given, there’s no sin.
Thus we see that little children can’t repent because they don’t have a law given to them until
they understand and become accountable, and the grace of Christ covers any sins that little
children have. Additionally, in Matthew 19:13-15 Christ blesses, not baptizes, children. In
another example, in response to Philip's teaching, many were converted, and as we read in Acts
8:12, both men and women were baptized. Notice that it didn’t include children in the list of
people who were baptized.
While we are on the topic of when we are to be baptized, to talk about why we baptize at 8, you could
use the following scriptures to explain:
1 Peter 3:20-21 ... save it were eight souls were saved by water, the like figure of baptism, which
doth now save us. It's a bit of a stretch, but the figure referenced at the end of verse 20 was
eight, and that same figure of eight is that of baptism. Therefore, you could make the claim that
this scripture is teaching us to baptize at eight. The number eight had great symbolism in the
Bible. For example, men were circumcised at eight days old (see Luke 2:21), and under the Law
of Moses, that was the first ordinance. Under the higher law that Christ gave us, baptism is the
first covenant, so it would make sense that the figure eight would still be used.
2. You don’t need to be baptized to have the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:1-4 on the day of Pentecost, people were filled with the Holy Ghost
To respond to that last objection, share the scriptures in the restoration section about prophets, and
Acts 2:37 where the Holy Ghost confirms the truth of what was being taught by a prophet.
To respond to the other two objections and teach that we receive the gift of the Holy Ghost by the
laying on of hands, share:
Acts 19:2-6 Paul re baptized people who weren't baptized by proper authority (I wouldn't get
into authority right here though), and lays hand on their heads to give them the Holy Ghost. This
is an awesome scripture to use. It clearly teaches that just because you're baptized, doesn't
mean you receive the Holy Ghost.
Acts 8:14-17 prayed for the holy ghost, didnt receive it until hands were laid on their heads
Acts 9:17 Paul receives the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands
And as far as the necessity goes, I'd refer you back to John 3:5 and Acts 2:35-37
Other Objections
Now that we are done with the first 3 lessons, we will move on to some of the other objections you may
face.
The Trinity
One of the more common ones is the trinity. First, we will look at why most of Christianity (but not us or
the Jehovah’s Witnesses) believe it, then we will look at the scriptural support they use for it. In my
opinion, the ability to combat the trinity doctrine is a fundamental bashing principle. The origin of the
trinity doctrine goes back to the early 4th century when a very famous council was held, The Council of
Nicaea. A lot of rumors are out there among missionaries on what happened at the Council of Nicaea. I
have done a good deal of study on this council, so I am going to do my best to present the truth about
the council to you. I am not an expert, but the sources I'm drawing on are from experts and provide a
good factual look at this council.
The basics of how this council happened are interesting. In 318 A.D., Bishop Alexander of Alexandria
gave a sermon on the unity of the Father and son. One of the clergy in attendance, a man named Arius,
disagreed with the theology behind it and it started a big debate in the church in Alexandria. Arius
taught that Christ was a creature of God; that is, that he was had the ability to sin and experience
temptation. Alexander believed that this philosophy that Christ could sin took away from the divinity of
Christ. Arius was very clear that he believed that though Christ could sin, he didn't, a view that is
consistent with LDS theology.
This debate grew and because Alexander had more power in the church, he had more people that rallied
around him. He and his followers excommunicated Arius from the church. This heated things up
significantly, and though Arius was excommunicated, the fire had been lit. The church became
increasingly divided over this issue, and finally in late 324 A.D., Emperor Constantine decided to hold a
council to unify the church. In May of 325 AD, 250-300 clergymen descended on Nicaea, and there for
four to six weeks debated several things. This included how church discipline should be handled, when
Easter should be celebrated, and most significantly, the relationship between the Father and the Son.
The debate wasn't initially so much about whether the Father and Son were one, but more about the
relationship and divinity of both the Father and the Son. Eventually, in order (in their eyes) to preserve
the divinity of the Son, they decided that he had to be of the same "substance" or "essence" as the
father, and thusly, they had to be one. The creed itself actually reads:
We believe in one God, Father almighty, maker of all things visible and invisible; And [we believe] in one
Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten from the Father, only-begotten, that is, from the substance
of the Father, God from God, Lightfrom Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one
substance with the Father, through whom all things came into being, things in heaven and things on
earth, who for us humans and for our salvation came down and became incarnate, becoming
human, suffered and rose again on the third day, and ascended into the heavens, is coming to judge the
living and the dead; 3. And [we believe] in the Holy Spirit 4. But those who say “there was when
he was not,” and “before he was born he was not,” and that “he was made of things that were not,” or
assert that the Son of God is of a different essence or substance [ from the Father] or that he is a
creature, or subject to change or alteration—these the Catholic and Apostolic Church anathematizes.
It is worth noting that most of the time that the last clause (4) is omitted. When we look at the creed in
context, the reason it was written the way it was makes more sense. Essentially, the implications of this
creed meant that most churches began teaching that the Father and the Son were one in the same, not
really the same, but yet the same.
The next council we need to discuss is the First Council of Constantinople in 381 A.D.. Notice that in the
Council of Nicaea, they barely touched on the Holy Ghost. There was only one brief clause about the
Holy Ghost. After the Council decided that God and Christ were one, they decided that the Holy Ghost
had to be so as well to protect its divinity. The Constantine Creed reads:
1. We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and
invisible 2. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all
worlds (æons), Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with
the Father; 3. by whom all things were made; 4. who for us men, and for our salvation, came down
from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost and of the Virgin Mary, and was made man; 5. he
was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried, and the third day he rose again,
according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father; 6.
from thence he shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have
no end. 7. And in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with
the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spake by the prophets. In one holy
catholic and apostolic Church; we acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; we look for the
resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
This creed is the one most people look at today to explain the trinity. Despite its prevalence today, it is
worth mentioning that it wasn’t until 451 A.D. that the trinity doctrine was canonized law, and it didn’t
become complete dogma until the 1400s.
With all that in mind, let's take a look at the scriptures that people will use to try to prove that Christ,
God and the Holy Ghost are one.
John 10:30 I and my Father are one
John 1:1, 14 the Word was God, the word be and flesh
John 14:9 he that hath seen me, has seen the father
There are a few other scriptures that people may use to prove the trinity doctrine, but these are the
main ones you'll get.
To explain our perspective on the unity of the Godhead, first explain that we believe these scriptures to
mean that God the Father and Jesus Christ are one in purpose. To explain this, take a look at the
scriptures below.
Mark 10:7-8 Husband and wife shall be one flesh. Are they literally one flesh? Of course not! It’s
merely an expression of unity. Let's go on.
John 17:20-22 I pray that they (the apostles, believers) may be one, as the Father and I are one.
Christ in the great Intercessory Prayer explains how He and the Father are one. Here, He prays
that his disciples may be one, the same way that He and His Father are one. Does He want His
disciples to be one gelatinous mass of flesh? No, He wants unity and singleness of purpose.
John 14:20 you'll know that I'm in the Father, you in me, and me in you
Once again, figuratively one, not literally one.
Now, we will go on to prove that the trinity doctrine does not match the scriptures.
Acts 7:55-56 at the stoning of Steven, he sees Christ at the right hand of God. Two beings, not
one.
Matthew 26:39 Christ pleading with the Father in the Garden. Is Christ praying to himself??
Matthew 27:46 Christ on the cross crying that His Father has forsaken him. How is this possible
if they're one being?
Matthew 3:16-17 Christ’s baptism when He is in the water, the holy ghost is descending in the
form of a dove, and the Father is speaking from heaven. I don’t know about you, but they sound
pretty separate.
Matthew 24:36 Only God knows when the second coming is, Christ doesn't know. If they're one
person, this wouldn't make any sense.
John 5:22 God doesn't judge anyone, only Christ does.
John 14:28 I go to my Father, who is greater than I
John 20:17 I will ascend to my God, and your God, my Father, and your Father. Is Christ going
ascend to himself?
Romans 14:11 every knee shall bow to Christ, and confess to God. Two separate beings.
Genesis 1:26-27 Let us create man in our image. Our is plural, not singular.
Genesis 3:22 behold, the man is like one of us. Us is plural, not singular.
There are plenty of other scriptures to use, these are just the ones that I like to use.
Priesthood Authority
Some people start to get really nervous when you bring up and prove the necessity of priesthood
authority, largely because there’s a definite need for authority according to the Bible, and only Catholics
claim to have authority actually from Christ. Most other churches claim authority from study, or from
intent or desire. They'll hold up a doctrine called "priesthood of all believers", and the scripture they use
to support it is 1 Peter 2:9 where it says that you're a chosen generation, royal priesthood, holy nation
and so on.
Now, let’s look at the scriptures that teach the need for authority.
Hebrews 5:4 no man take this honor unto himself, but he that is called of God as was Aaron.
This scripture is a good place to start. No one can give themselves the priesthood, and they have
to be called of God, like Aaron, and Aaron was called of God, by a prophet, Moses.
Matthew 16:19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom... bind in earth and in heaven. Here,
Christ is talking to Peter and promising him power and authority to bind on earth and in heaven.
This verse makes it clear the Christ had to give the keys. Just because Peter believed, didn’t
grant him that power.
John 15:16 I have chosen you and ordained you. Christ calls people and gives them authority.
Luke 9:1-2 Christ gives his apostles authority and power over devils and to heal. Once again, it is
clear that this power is not taken upon one’s self.
Acts 8:17-20 The priesthood can’t be bought with money
Original Sin
This is the largely Catholic idea that we are born in sin, and we will be punished for Adam's
transgression. This can be based on a reading of Romans 5:12, 18-19, where it states that because of the
Fall, sin entered into the world, and all have sinned. That is basically the entire scriptural basis that there
is for this point of doctrine. To refute it, use the following.
Ezekiel 18:20 the son shall not bear the sins of his father
Isaiah 59:2 your sins separate you from God
Acts 20:7 disciples met on the first day of the week to break bread
1 Corinthians 16:1-2 met on first day of the week
Colossians 2:16-17 don’t let anyone judge you in respect of Sabbath days
Temples
Most of Christianity teaches that temples are no longer necessary, and that God doesn't dwell in
temples. Let's look at the scriptures they'll use to object:
Acts 7:48-49 God doesn't dwell in temples made by men
Acts 17:24 God doesn't dwell in temples made with hands
Matthew 27:51 Veil of the temple tears when Christ is crucified
To respond to the scriptures in the Book of Acts, let's first keep in mind what Bruce R. McConkie said on
the subject, “The great Creator, by whom all things are, dwelleth not in temples made by the hands of
his creatures; but he is worshiped by them in his temples, which holy houses he visits occasionally, and in
which sacred spots his Spirit may always be found by the faithful”
The scripture in Matthew about the temple veil being torn is used by some as an attempt to prove that
the temple was part of the Law of Moses and was done away with Christ’s great and final sacrifice. This
is incorrect. Here are scriptures to show that the temple wasn’t done away with after Christ’s death.
Luke 24:50-53 Diciples were continually in the temple praising God
Acts 2:46 they were daily in the temple
Acts 5:42 daily in the temple
God is a spirit.
The basis of this is John 4:24, which says "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in
spirit and in truth." The ability to clarify this scripture and show that God has a physical body is a good
skill to have. It is also worth noting that people may pull scriptures like Colossians 1:15 about the
invisible God or similar scriptures, but John 4:24 is the most common one.
To respond to this scripture, it is important to understand the context a little better. The Book of John
was written in Greek, and in Greek, there are no articles between words, so this should be more
properly translated to "God is spirit" or "God is spiritual". With that in mind, let's talk about the latter
half of the scripture where it talks about worshiping him in spirit and truth. Under the Law of Moses,
people were sometimes worshipping God in almost robotic ritual, and more focused on the letter of the
law, than the intent for which it was given. What Christ teaches here is to worship not just in truth, but
in spirit, and focus on that spiritual relationship. With that in the forefront, let's go on to show that God
has a physical body. There are several ways you can show this.
Route 1
Genesis 1:26-27 we are created in the image of God. The same language is used in Genesis 5:1-3
which says that God created man in the likeness of God, and that Adam begat a son, in his own
likeness and image. So, since this same language is used, then God must have a body for us to be
in his image and likeness. Much like Seth had a body and was in the image and likeness of Adam.
Route 2
Genesis 32:30 Jacob sees God face to face. You can’t see a face without God having a body
Exodus 33:11 Lord spake to Moses face to face
Hebrews 11:27 seeing him who is invisible
Route 3
Philippians 2:5-6 Christ who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with
God. Christ is in the form of God, and as we talked about in the plan of salvation, Christ has a
resurrected physical body, so if He is in the form of God, God must also have a physical body. To
drive that point home even more, follow it with Hebrews 1:3, where Christ is in the express
image of His Father
Route 4
1 Corinthians 11:7 Man is in the image of God.
2 Corinthians 4:4 Christ is in the image of God. Some will say that in the image of God means
perfect and sinless, but man and Christ are bot perfect and sinless, so it must mean in the
physical image of God.
Route 5
Psalm 91:4 God will cover us with His feathers
Deuteronomy 4:24 God is a consuming fire
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock
Explain that these scriptures aren’t literally saying God is a flaming rock with feathered wings.
Instead, these scriptures are simply giving us imagery that help us understand attributes of God.
In the same way, the imagery provided by the phrase "God is a spirit" help us understand God
better.
I often hear this objection from those who belong to the Church of Christ. You can also point out that
the Bible teaches in James 5:14-15 that Elders must anoint and heal with oil, which those they call
“elders” in other churches, like those in the Church of Christ, don’t do.
What sparked this response was the Sadducees asking Christ about a woman whose husband died.
Under levirate marriage under the law of Moses, the woman would marry her husband’s brother, who
was supposed to take care of her. If this brother died, she would then marry the next brother, and so
on. The Sadducees ask about a hypothetical case with seven brothers marrying the same woman. They
then ask Christ who will she be married to in the resurrection, and verses 29-30 is his response.
To understand this verse and Christ's response, let's look at why the Sadducees asked the question. In
verse 23, we learn that the Sadducees don’t believe in the resurrection, so they came to the Savior
trying to tempt him, and get him to slip up in his words. Because these Sadducees didn’t believe in a
resurrection, they were performing marriages for time only. If the Christ had named a husband, they
could have called it blasphemy. Also, we know that the power to bind on earth and in heaven was not
possessed by the Jews at this time. If it was, Christ wouldn't have to give it to his apostles (see Matthew
16:19, 18:18), so they wouldn't even have the power to if they wanted. To further teach eternal
marriage, consider the following scriptures,
Matthew 19:6 What God hath joined together let no man put asunder. These words were in
response to a pharisee (pharisees believed in the resurrection), who asked Christ about divorce.
Under the Law of Moses, you could divorce for whatever reason. Christ clearly taught that
divorce was only justified for adultery. Christ is saying here that marriage is ordained of God,
and eternal. Therefore, man should not divorce because marriage is eternal.
Matthew 16:19 keys of the kingdom... bind on earth, bind in heaven. We believe that this
sealing power has been restored and that marriage can be bound on earth and in heaven.
1 Peter 3:7 husbands and wives are heirs of the grace of life together
1 Corinthians 11:11 neither is the man without the woman or the woman without the man in
the Lord
Ecclesiastes 3:14 what the Lord does, he does forever
One more note on eternal families. We get an interesting evidence of eternal families with the story of
Job. As you know, Job had basically everything taken away from him- including his children. In Job 42:10,
God promises Job that he will give back to Job double what he had lost. God does so and Job is given
14,000 sheep where he had 7,000 before, camels go to 6,000 from 3,000 and so on. However, he had 7
sons and 3 daughters before, and after, he was given only 7 sons and 3 daughters more. That is not
double. Either God lied, or Job’s children from before were sealed to him, and God kept his word.
God the Father is Jehovah and the God of the Old Testament
This is a claim of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and their idea is that God the Father is Jehovah and the God
of the Old Testament. We believe that it is Jesus Christ who is Jehovah and the God of the Old
Testament. To do this, we will look at scriptures about Jehovah, then look at scriptures about Christ.
Polygamy
We may as well quickly touch on this. There are many examples of polygamy in the Bible.
Genesis 4:19 Lamech takes 2 wives
Genesis 16:3 Abram takes 2nd wife
Genesis 29:20-30 Jacob has multiple wives
Genesis 30:4, 9 Jacob gets more wives
1 Kings 11:1, 3 Solomon had a great number of wives
Deuteronomy 21:5-7 stipulation in the Law of Moses about polygamy
Word of Wisdom
We will briefly touch on this subject. To teach the word of wisdom, modern revelation is your best
approach. Explain that your body is a temple, and we need to take care of it (1 Corinthians 3:16-17,
6:19-20). You may also bring up how God had a law of health in the Old Testament (Judges 13:4,
Leviticus 10:9), and today God has once again given us a law of health.
You can also point out the evidence for baptisms for the dead in the early church. Baptisms for the dead
was actually a common practice in the early Christian church until 393, when it was condemned at the
Council of Hippo. By that time, the Church had fallen into apostasy, so the men that condemned it were
uninspired and without authority.
Tests of a prophet
After some research, here are some tests of a prophet, and how Joseph Smith fulfills them.
Matthew 7:15-17 know a prophet by their fruits. Among Joseph Smith's fruits was the Book of
Mormon.
Deuteronomy 18:20-22 if a prophet gives a prophecy, and it prove true, follow him if he doesn't
tell you to follow another God. Joseph Smith gave many prophecies that were fulfilled. Fore
example, section 87 of the Doctrine and Covenants prophesies of the Civil War long before it
happens.
Numbers 12:6 if there’s a prophet among you, the Lord will appear to him and make himself
known in a dream. Joseph Smith fulfilled this scripture many times. The Lord appeared to him
many times, and he had prophetic dreams and visions.
To respond to the Isaiah 43:10, go onto the next verse, which tells us that besides Him, there is no
Savior. And as we learn in Acts 4:12, Christ is our only Savior. Therefore, it is Christ speaking here. God
the Father was God before His Son, therefore, we shouldn't take this as literally saying there will be no
more Gods after him. We should understand this as Christ saying that we shouldn't look to any other as
our Savior. He is the only way, and no God formed by the hand of men can save us.
To teach our divine potential, that is, that we through following the laws and ordinances, we may
become like unto God, use the following scriptures:
Romans 8:16-17 we are the spirit children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and
joint heirs with Christ. And as we learn in Hebrews 1:2, Christ is heir of all things.
Revelation 3:21 to him that overcomes, Christ will allow to sit down in His throne, just as He
overcame and is sit down in His Fathers throne
1 John 3:2 if we have God-like love, we will appear to be like Christ at his coming
Matthew 5:48 we are commanded to be perfect, even as our Father in Heaven is perfect. Either
Christ is giving us a commandment that we will never possibly be able to keep, or we do have
the potential to become like our Father in Heaven
Philippians 2:6 Christ being in the form of God didn’t think is was robbery to be equal with God,
and as we learn in Genesis 1:26-27, we are all in the form of God
John 10:30-36 Christ proclaims He and His Father are one. The pharisees aren't big fans of this
and pick up rocks to stone Christ. Christ asks why they're going to stone Him, and they say
because Christ, being man, makes himself to be God, Christ responds by quoting Psalm 82:6 (all
of us are Gods and children of the most high) to them, and says "is it not written in your law that
ye are gods?". This scripture quite literally tells us that we are gods. Just like a kitten grows up to
be a cat, a duckling to a duck, and children of God grow to be, well, a God.
Conclusion
I hope this information will be found useful, faith building, or at the very least, interesting. I will close
with a few words of caution and my testimony. This guide is intended to be a supplement to Preach My
Gospel. The Book of Mormon and the Spirit will be your most powerful tool in conversion. It is
preferable to teach solely from the Book of Mormon, but I wrote this to because the reality is that there
will be times it is you must teach from the Bible. Keep in mind what Elder Holland said at a conference
celebrating the discover of chiasmus in the Book of Mormon, “My testimony to you tonight is that the
gospel is infallibly true and that a variety of infallible proofs supporting that assertion will continue to
come until Jesus descends as the ultimate infallible truth of all. Our testimonies aren’t dependent on
evidence—we still need that spiritual confirmation in the heart of which we have spoken—but not to
seek for and not to acknowledge intellectual, documentable support for our belief when it is available is
to needlessly limit an otherwise incomparably strong theological position and deny us a unique,
persuasive vocabulary in the latter-day arena of religious investigation and sectarian debate. Thus armed
with so much evidence of the kind we have celebrated here tonight, we ought to be more assertive than
we sometimes are in defending our testimony of truth.”
Through my study of the Bible, I have gained a stronger testimony of the Gospel. Remember, God loves
you and the people you come in contact with, your interactions should reflect that love. I know this
Church to be true. I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet, a true prophet that led people to Christ. I
know the Book of Mormon to be the word of God. It was translated, not written. I know that Christ is
the Son of God, He suffered and died for us, and on the third day, He rose again. I know that missions
are divinely orchestrated, and as we rely on God’s grace and the spirit, we will find joy in the work.
Today, I believe we are seeing the prophecy of Ezekiel being fulfilled more than ever, that the Bible and
the Book of Mormon are truly becoming one in our hands. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.