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10-25-2006, 10:41 AM #1

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andrewc Posts: 92
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The 413 Definitive Bin File!

This is the 413 bin that should be used by people so that discoveries and map locations are correct for one and all
(though its easy to find the same map in another file...just a bit more work! )
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stock413v1.bin (64.0 KB, 36 views)

Last edited by andrewc : 11-09-2006 at 10:24 AM.

11-29-2006, 08:20 PM #2

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zilog357 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico (U.S.A)
Newbie ECU Hacker Posts: 12

Hello Andy.

Just wondering... Is the "definitely 413" file stock???

Its seems that the checksum for the maps section is wrong...

Let me know, just curious.

Richard

11-29-2006, 08:29 PM #3

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zilog357 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico (U.S.A)
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Other than that, I think that in the file:

1. The revlimit is at E033h (2 Bytes). Stock chips always have 9065h in that location, which is equivalent 6500 RPM
or 6700 RPM, don't know. Also, I haven't found the algorythm to calculate it. I do know that the crystal frequency
along with other parameters are used to calculate it.

In this chip, that code is repeated at 'F7D8h' also. I haven't seen that in the other chips.

2. The vehicle speed limit is at E0EBh (1 Byte) - C9h-, which is 201 Km/Hr (125 MPH).

Please, anybody correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks,

Richard

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11-29-2006, 10:11 PM #4

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peluca Posts: 12
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2 Bytes = Word
So that it's interpreted as 6590 HEX = 26,000 DEC divided by 4 = 6,500
If someone want to test just put in that location 803E and if the formula is right you should rev to 4000 RPM.

11-30-2006, 10:05 PM #5

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325icintn Posts: 38
Senior ECU Hacking Technician

I know this one's stock; it's from my car.


I'd be happy if everyone worked from it.

Details: 10/94 build date; m50tu; 5 speed manual; asc; non-ewsII

I would upload the xdf, but the site won't let me.
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1094m50mstk.BIN (64.0 KB, 11 views)

12-01-2006, 01:24 AM #6

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techno550 Location: Atlanta, GA
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don't know why you can't upload the xdf. maybe an extension problem? you can probably change the extension of
the xdf to something else.

How much have you mapped?

12-01-2006, 02:46 AM #7

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325icintn Posts: 38
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I zipped it. Hope it works.

You can see what I've mapped as a "base"

In the checksum xdf, I've added a few more maps and andrew also added a few.

I tried to add an automatic checksum correction via the menu xdf>header info>...checksum (tab) (Ctr + f2)

You must identify the checksum address and the start/stop of the data area. I failed probably failed to identify
the data area.
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1094m50m(CkSum).zip (2.4 KB, 14 views)

12-01-2006, 09:15 PM #8

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zilog357 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico (U.S.A)

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Hello.
Peluca, first of all, hello. I think you are from my home land PR.

About the limiter, maybe you are right. The only thing is that you swapped bytes in the word you proposed for
testing. It should be 3E80h (16000d) and not 803E (32830h). If someone can do the test, it would be great.

About the checksum, yes, the checksum is identified in the begining of the data block as told by Jim Conforti in
some other forum. In this chip, the data block start like this at FDF4h:

F7 A8 F8 B0 E7 E2 92 FB 08 FC 3A...

Always the fifth word (2 bytes) in that line, in this case with value "FC 3A", is the address right after the checksum
that protects the area of the maps. So the area of the maps begins at E000h (in other chips at D000h, but it is
easily identifiable) and ends at "FC3A", including the checksum.

You just go two bytes back that area to find the written checksum (CCFB in this chip) that covers from E000h to
right before the checksum (FC37h).

That is why I said before that the checksum seems to be wrong, because if you do a cumulative checksum from
E000h to FC37h in this chip, the result is CD40 instead CCFB. If you look in other similar 413 chips, the checksum
fit exactly as explained above no problem. Just the begining of the block changes from D000h to E000h.

325icintn; If you would be able to do those two tests it will be nice: Changing the revlimit to something lower for a
safe test and "correcting" the checksum to "CD40" to see if it works fine too.

Regards,

Richard

12-01-2006, 09:36 PM #9

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325icintn Posts: 38
Senior ECU Hacking Technician

This weekend, I'm installing a replacement stock catback (cheap, used), wideband/logger, diff/trans oil, plus I had
to change a tire on the interstate in 15 F (-9 C) wind chill this morning in rush hour. So I have a tire repair too. I'll
try to burn a couple of new chips, though, and test this theory.

12-01-2006, 10:36 PM #10

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325icintn Posts: 38
Senior ECU Hacking Technician

Quote:

Originally Posted by zilog357


About the checksum, yes, the checksum is identified in the begining of the data block as told by Jim
Conforti in some other forum. In this chip, the data block start like this at FDF4h:

F7 A8 F8 B0 E7 E2 92 FB 08 FC 3A...

Always the fifth word (2 bytes) in that line, in this case with value "FC 3A", is the address right after the
checksum that protects the area of the maps. So the area of the maps begins at E000h (in other chips at
D000h, but it is easily identifiable) and ends at "FC3A", including the checksum.

I'm confused by what you refer to as the "data block".

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