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He liked the assumptions that Mayan’s and Sanishtha’s group had made -
● Difference in between the CEO & VPs was more than VPs and Chiefs
● As no data was their, they did not give preference to ay department
● Tejas’s & Anwesha’s group had different pay amongst the chiefs and VPs
● He said he’s fine with whatever numbers you put, if he likes your assumptions. He wants
a rationale. If you can convince him the Earth is Flat, he would consider that as answer
● Shreya & Prabhat - Fixed Pay same for all depts. Introduce a variable pay based on
performance
● Equitable Compensation -Higher the designation, higher the salary (Do not confuse with
equality), Equity means, there is a difference in pay, a valid difference that you are able to
justify
● Overall objective is to be fair
● Equity v/s Equality -
o In this case we are taking decisions in an HR environment not in IR environment
o In IR you go equality, you want to pay them equal, otherwise there would be
conflicts, why doesn’t such a conflict arise in HR?
o Saanchi - HR- Individual & IR - Collective - something like that - Guru (Laughs) -
Leave Something like that to me
o You bother about unions in IR and not in an HR setup
o Arnav - Sir HR is more individualistic and IR is more collective
o Guru - Right. But the question is why?
o The answer is the level of dispensability of the job, in an IR setup the workers
are despensibile and are in abundance, but in an HR setup the resources cannot
be easily replaced because they are a scarce talent.This would always happen
when supply is less than demand. Exception - Why pilots are unionised
o In HR, I am willing to differentiate and focus on equity because it is an individual
setup. In IR, the power lies in the Collective
● When there is no data, then pay equally. Otherwise you’ll end up with a biased decision.
Should we differentiate to show equity? Degree of Equity is different across
organizations
Lecture 6_24 Nov:
1. Pay Mix is essentially a control mechanism employed by companies. It does not take into
account value fit. Value fit comes later into the system, to look at employees companies
can trust. Explanation:
a. Pay hike control targets:
i. If you use pay hike and focus on variable component relating it to
achievement of targets, you can make sure employees are performing.
ii. If you do use it as guaranteed pay, you are simply saying we trust the
employee and hence we want to conserve him
b. Value fit: Another way to manage compensation. Not everyone can meet targets.
But we still laud an employee’s effort and compensate him for the same
2. In entry level jobs, colleges come into picture. However, as one advances in the career, at
VP levels, a person’s college does not matter. There are exceptions to this though. For
example, a startup hiring CHRO only from XLRI to signal to the investors that we
appreciate quality.
3. Work experience is a powerful proxy for talent and organizations put a price on it. Hence
they tend to have threshold level of work experience for posts.
Loyalty argument:
1. Organizations do not value loyalty when the market is not active.Conversely, they value
loyalty if the market is active.
2. Organizations do not value loyalty when they want diversification as well. It signals this
by offering higher salaries to people who leave, diversify and then come back.
Most companies do not look at achievement of last year’s targets to look at pay mix. Also, in
retail, certain companies value loyalty department wise. As an example, an expert on furniture
will be rewarded more than a shopfloor worker if he chooses to stay
● - Pay levels and flat organization structures are different. Job doesn’t change with pay
level change. This is in regard to tenure promotions. The initials promotions are based
on tenure, the job doesn’t change, role doesn’t change, it is just to recognize the
employee’s work.
● - Even in government organizations, in most cases, pay level keeps changing
periodically but the job is unattached to it. Such a scenario could also be because of less
available promotion opportunities.
● - Organization is paying someone the highest pay for that job (highest in that pay
range) and the others are being paid less than that. This brings in differentiation. The
one with more pay is being rewarded for his/her performance. At this point, this
employee has to move up in his job otherwise the cost to company is increasing.
Consider, opportunities are there but the employee is not capable enough for next job
level.
● - Now the options with organization are –
● i) Promote the person (even if he is not capable)
● ii) Ghost pay range (will not promote will not throw out, it is a signal to people that
the org has high performing employees, high talent)
● iii) Signalling the slowing of pay hike to the employee beyond the current P80 level.
The options also depend on the how scarcely is that talent available in the market. The
organization can also look at training the employee in order to retain and promote to
next level.
● - In some cases, the high performing employee may not be eligible for the next job level
due to lack of competencies so the next best performer or the next best with required
competencies for the next level is promoted. This can be taken wrongly by the
employees. Different organizations follow different methods. Some go with promoting
the best performer even if they lack competencies, which is a mistake. Some say we pay
best performers very high, but promotion is different and depends on required
competencies. These are some challenges in compensation and promotions.
● - For creating promotions, the employees in the above level should be promoted to
signal to the high performing employee at the below level that he/she will be promoted
in the future when opportunity arises.
● - Allowances & Benefits –
● - Generally -> Small basic + Large allowances. Discussion is on to make 50% basic and
50% allowances.
● - If basic goes up PF (12% of basic) goes up and Gratuity goes up. To balance this
growth other allowances will be reduced. In the future, this finally reduces the take
home with less increments to keep the CTC same.
● - Allowances are primarily to reduce the PF and Gratuity burden and it provides tax
benefits to employees.
● - HRA – Makes sense only in a transferable job. But most organizations only give HRA
because of the tax benefit (IT Companies).
● - HRA, TA, night shift are allowances.
● - Allowances depend on a lot of factors – whether it is temporary, its context. If the
need for allowance is permanent, then it would be included in the basic itself.
● - Since allowances are temporary the company can withdraw it as per the need.
● - PF, Gratuity, Meal coupons - Benefits
● - Benefits are not seen in cash by the employee, but it adds to the company’s costs.
● - Specific end is taken care of. For example – medical expenses.
● - For allowances, organization doesn’t care what the employee spends that amount on.
But for benefits the organization only wants to compensate specific ends
(requirements). Organization want to show that it cares about its employees through
benefits.
● - If the organization says that they will pay the house rent directly to the owner on
submission of bills, then it is a benefit.
● - Reimbursements (on submission of bills of a specific requirement like medical, fuel
etc.) are also benefits.
● - Through benefits the organization can decide where or what the money goes for.
● - Reasons why benefits started –
● · Long term uncertainty – Employees can’t handle or plan for the long-term uncertainty
on their own. (PF, Gratuity) They are called income insurance. Hence, governments tend
to provide tax exemptions to organizations and employees on these benefits that take
care of long-term uncertainty.
● · Encouraging behaviours – Perquisites: Club memberships, Certifications for specific
skills etc.
● · Efficiency advantage – leave travel concession, take holidays at company owned
properties etc. Low cost for employees for doing certain activities.
●
● - Tata motors case –
● - HRA should be location driven if it is a transferable job. HRA should be made part of
basic if it is a permanent factor in Tata motors. It also needs a PCA to some specific
locations like Pantnagar.
● - If it is a one-off situation, then the company can have a dual policy – from Pantnagar,
to Pantnagar.
● - HRA should be a benefit it solves the transferable job problem. The company just
ensures that the employees stay is taken care.
● - Career transfers, culture transfers can solve the problem as it is for career
progression or learning in which case the employee cannot ask for cash or allowance as
it is needed as part of his career path.
Lecture 15(Jan 5)
JOB EVALUATION(COLPAL)
We are talking about criticality of job which is a relative concept. Therefore, a common set of
parameters need to be used.
Generally the three compensable factors for evaluating a job can be - skills(input),
effort(process) and responsibility(outputs) -(Hay evaluation method).
Then they have to further split into subfactors. Eg: Skills could be further split into education,
experience, certification etc
A scale can then be created by further grading each subfactor i.e Education can have 5 grades →
1- 10th std, 2- 12th std, 3- Graduation, 4- Post Grad.
Job Evaluation depends on Job description. If certain factors like responsibility is not mentioned
in the JD then work with what you have.
The entire job evaluation is about comparison between jobs within the organization(and not
external).
When doing JE,ideally, the weights should remain constant throughout(eg, Skills -50%,
Effort-20%,Responsibility-30%) but the degree(eg:1,2,3,4,5) should change based on the job.
Weights are a bias that the organization adds to convey a message. In the above eg- That the
organization values skill over responsibility and effort.
Some ways in which orgs decide pay after evaluation. Suppose the final order after evaluation is
J3,J5,J2,J4,J1 :
1. Pay J3 higher than market(eg-75th percentile) and J1(much lower than mkt) - Ready to
live with attrition at lower levels
2. Pay J3 P75 and J1 relatively low (P60)
3. Pay J3 high and J1 low. But ensure that next promotion will be filled internally therefore
making it a more career related issue.
In style 1. → Evident difference in skills of the different roles. J3 might be the most critical(takes
most burden), J1 is just helping J3.
In style 2. → Don't want to be seen as bad paymasters. J3 is still a support to J1 but J3 has to be
done well for J3 to perform well(highly dependent)
In style 3 → J3 most critical. Others are jobs in waiting to reach critical job.
Style 2 - used when company is in growth stage (doesnt mind extra salary).
Style 3 - Used in mature stage. Focus on careers.
JE vs PMS
● Job vs Person
● JE - Typicality and PMS - Excellence
● PMS - Flexible eg: Ask emp to focus on innovation in one year. If it doesn't work then
regress back in the next. JE - Reasonable permanent
What started as an experiment in PMS → if its consistent over a span of time→ it becomes part
of the JD → then it impacts the JE
Technology could be another reason for change in JD
Lecture 16 - Jan 7
Discussion:
Can we compare between two departments like sales and R and D?
How do you answer for an R and D guy having salaries much higher than the sales team?
1)Sales versus Rand D is fundamentally 2 different professions and therfore becomes very
difficult in terms of comparison.
It is easier to compare sales and operations / Marketing and HR.
Definition of performance and the timeline involved is not easy to decide in R and D.
Better to look at different measurements for both departments.
Ultimately if you as a company cannot differentiate your products, sales teams drive your value
and vice versa.
To pay which of these more depends on which dept drives your org.
When these 3 conditions exist, we move into an internal equity structure based on
persons and no longer the job. (Aka input/ knowledge/ skill based structures). It’s based on
personal attributes like skills and experience. You could look at proxies for skills. Eg patent
certification.
Is the job more of a nebulus issue - trickier to play with the measurement or perf.
As size of org (roles, emps) increases structure becomes a necessity in the org. There is need for
clarity on what people should be doing. Job Desc and job based struct is reqd.
Autonomy, Mastery, Purpose - let me do what I want to, Be the best at it, to be intrinsically
motivated to do it.
Results only Work environment - no schedules, bas kaam karna hai , kaise bhi karo kahi bhi karo
bas karo.
Intrinsic works - we know- just need to apply. Need to grow up from carrot and stick approach
vo outdated hai.
Self Determination Theory - Reward accept is not about whether they like the reward. It is about
of communication of the rewards. Be it intrinsic or extrinsic.
So performance kaise kare? PMS and C&B dont determine it. Selection matters. You need to get
the genuinely interested people. Peer driven.. Selection - grooming
Wrong person is wrog person.. Galat le liya to chud gaye
How to determine Pay Level - how much you value it + what is market paying
C&B :
1. Rewarding good bbehavious
2. Monitoring if someone is doing a good job
1 Assumes ki he wants to do this, what can I give him so taht he does his bets
2. You cam for the money, so only if you do this work i will pay you
Jan 12:
About safelite
Discussion:
Pay for performance is a sorting effect for a few top performers.
When it comes to safelite, yes it has a major market share (12%) but most of its competitors are
local stores. Since the case is set in the USA where insurance is available to all, people might just
go to a local store and have repairs covered under their insurance policy.
Next issue is that of demand. The business is seasonal, but installers aren’t lazy. The daily
business requires say 2-3 installations, on specific days if its 8-9 then how do a fixed number of
installers with existing capabilities respond so many.
Targets vs Commission
Targets- Forecasting can be done, and predicted demand is close to actua ldemand.
Commissions- uncertain, different targets different commissions (usually in sales.)
The slice of pie issue- if huge, go for commission.
Here, glass replacement should be on Targets.
Next, seasonality of demand: companies don’t decrease targets, they need people to still work
efficiently.
Lecture 19 Jan 14