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Nuvama Strategy Report Compendium of Conference Calls Q1FY24 Covering
Quarterly Quotes
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Petrochemicals CGDs
Margin expansion on reduced input cost offset
by muted volumes
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Contents
Agri Inputs
Coromandel International ..................................................................................... 12
Dhanuka Agritech .................................................................................................. 13
Rallis India .............................................................................................................. 14
Sharda Cropchem .................................................................................................. 16
UPL ......................................................................................................................... 17
Auto & auto components
Amara Raja Batteries ............................................................................................. 21
Apollo Tyres ........................................................................................................... 22
Ashok Leyland ........................................................................................................ 23
CEAT ....................................................................................................................... 24
Eicher Motors ........................................................................................................ 25
Escorts Kubota ....................................................................................................... 26
Hero Motocorp ...................................................................................................... 27
Mahindra and Mahindra........................................................................................ 28
Maruti Suzuki ......................................................................................................... 29
Sona BLW Precision ............................................................................................... 30
Tata Motors ........................................................................................................... 31
TVS Motors ............................................................................................................ 33
Uno Minda ............................................................................................................. 34
Banks, financial services and insurance
Axis Bank ................................................................................................................ 37
Bandhan Bank ........................................................................................................ 38
Bank of Baroda ...................................................................................................... 39
Federal Bank .......................................................................................................... 41
Five Star Business Finance ..................................................................................... 43
HDFC AMC ............................................................................................................. 26
HDFC ...................................................................................................................... 45
HDFC Bank ............................................................................................................. 46
HDFC Life Insurance ............................................................................................... 48
ICICI Bank ............................................................................................................... 50
ICICI Lombard GI .................................................................................................... 51
ICICI Prudential Life ............................................................................................... 53
IDFC First Bank ....................................................................................................... 55
IndusInd Bank ........................................................................................................ 57
Kotak Mahindra Bank ............................................................................................ 59
Mahindra & Mahindra Financial Services .............................................................. 61
Max Financials ....................................................................................................... 63
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GE T&D................................................................................................................. 105
Hitachi Energy ...................................................................................................... 102
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Consumer Goods6
Adani Wilmar ....................................................................................................... 113
Asian Paints ......................................................................................................... 115
Bajaj Consumer Care ........................................................................................... 120
Berger Paints ....................................................................................................... 123
Britannia Industries ............................................................................................. 126
Dabur ................................................................................................................... 129
Emami .................................................................................................................. 134
Godrej Consumer ................................................................................................. 136
HUL ...................................................................................................................... 140
Indigo Paints ........................................................................................................ 143
ITC ........................................................................................................................ 146
Marico.................................................................................................................. 149
Nestle ................................................................................................................... 153
Pidilite .................................................................................................................. 154
Tata Consumer Products ..................................................................................... 157
United Spirits ....................................................................................................... 165
Healthcare
Apollo Hospitals ................................................................................................... 168
Dr Lal PathLabs .................................................................................................... 170
Fortis Healthcare ................................................................................................. 172
Healthcare Global ................................................................................................ 174
Medplus Healthcare Services .............................................................................. 176
Vijaya Diagnostic .................................................................................................. 178
Hotels/Hospitality/Aviation
Indian Hotels ........................................................................................................ 180
InterGlobe Aviation ............................................................................................. 181
Lemon Tree Hotels............................................................................................... 183
Home Décor
Century Plyboards ............................................................................................... 186
Greenlam Industries ............................................................................................ 189
Greenpanel Industries ......................................................................................... 191
Greenply Industries ............................................................................................. 194
Kajaria Ceramics .................................................................................................. 197
Prince Pipes ......................................................................................................... 200
Somany Ceramics................................................................................................. 205
Supreme Industries .............................................................................................. 208
Venus Pipes.......................................................................................................... 212
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IT
Birlasoft................................................................................................................ 216
Coforge ................................................................................................................ 217
Cyient ................................................................................................................... 218
Eclerx ................................................................................................................... 219
First Source Sollutions ......................................................................................... 220
HCL Technologies ................................................................................................. 221
Infosys .................................................................................................................. 222
L&T Technology Services Ltd ............................................................................... 223
LTMindtree .......................................................................................................... 224
Persistent Systems ............................................................................................... 225
Redington ............................................................................................................ 226
Tata Consultancy Services ................................................................................... 227
Tech Mahindra ..................................................................................................... 228
Wipro ................................................................................................................... 229
Zensar Technologies ............................................................................................ 230
Internet
Info Edge .............................................................................................................. 232
Zomato................................................................................................................. 234
Media
PVR Inox ............................................................................................................... 238
Zee Entertainment Enterprises ............................................................................ 241
Metals & Mining
Hindalco Industries .............................................................................................. 246
Hndustan Zinc ...................................................................................................... 247
Jindal Stainless ..................................................................................................... 248
Jindal Steel & Power ............................................................................................ 249
JSW Steel ............................................................................................................. 250
SAIL ...................................................................................................................... 252
Shyam Metalics .................................................................................................... 253
Tata Steel ............................................................................................................. 255
Vedanta ............................................................................................................... 257
Oil & Gas, Petrochemicals
GAIL ..................................................................................................................... 260
Gujarat Gas .......................................................................................................... 262
Mahanagar Gas .................................................................................................... 264
Petronet LNG ....................................................................................................... 266
Sterling and Wilson .............................................................................................. 267
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Pharmaceuticals
Anjanta Pharma ................................................................................................... 269
Alkem Laboratories .............................................................................................. 270
Aurobindo ............................................................................................................ 272
Biocon .................................................................................................................. 274
Cipla ..................................................................................................................... 276
Divi’s Laboratories ............................................................................................... 278
Dr. Reddy’s Laboratories ..................................................................................... 280
Glenmark Pharmaceuticals .................................................................................. 282
IPCA Laboratories ................................................................................................ 284
Lupin .................................................................................................................... 286
Natco Pharma ...................................................................................................... 289
Sun Pharmaceuticals............................................................................................ 290
Torrent Pharmaceuticals ..................................................................................... 292
Zydus Lifesciences................................................................................................ 294
Power
India Grid Trust .................................................................................................... 296
Real Estate
Brigade Enterprises .............................................................................................. 298
DLF ....................................................................................................................... 299
Godrej Properties ................................................................................................ 300
Macrotech Developers ........................................................................................ 301
Oberoi Realty ....................................................................................................... 304
Phoenix Mills ....................................................................................................... 306
Sobha ................................................................................................................... 308
Sunteck Realty ..................................................................................................... 310
Retail
Bata India ............................................................................................................. 313
Devyani International .......................................................................................... 315
FSN E-Commerce Ventures (Nykaa...................................................................... 316
Jubilant FoodWorks ............................................................................................. 317
Metro Brands ....................................................................................................... 318
Page Industries .................................................................................................... 320
Restaurant Brands Asia ........................................................................................ 322
Sapphire Foods India Ltd ..................................................................................... 323
Shoppers Stop ...................................................................................................... 324
Titan Company ..................................................................................................... 326
Varun Benerages ................................................................................................. 328
Vedant Fashions .................................................................................................. 329
V-Mart Retail ....................................................................................................... 331
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Specialty Chemicals
Aarti Industries .................................................................................................... 334
Anupam Rasayane ............................................................................................... 336
Deepak Nitrite ..................................................................................................... 337
Fine Organic Industries Ltd .................................................................................. 339
Galaxy Surfactants ............................................................................................... 340
Gujarat Flourochemcails ...................................................................................... 341
Jubilant Ingrevia ................................................................................................... 343
PCBL ..................................................................................................................... 344
P I Industries ........................................................................................................ 346
SRF ....................................................................................................................... 348
Textiles
Welspun India ...................................................................................................... 351
Telecom
Route Mobile ....................................................................................................... 353
Sterlite Technologies ........................................................................................... 354
Miscellaneous
Balkrishna Industries ........................................................................................... 356
Bharat Forge ........................................................................................................ 357
PDS ....................................................................................................................... 358
RHI Magnesita India ............................................................................................. 359
Sheela Foam ........................................................................................................ 360
Solar Industries .................................................................................................... 361
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Agri Inputs
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Coromandel International
Operational highlights
Demand for fertiliser remain strong as there was not much inventory in the
system
Company to continue focus on complex fertiliser and driving its sales of unique
grade to maximise raw material availability
Share of subsidy business in revenues were at 86% while at EBITDA it was 84%
Management expect fertiliser volume growth in FY24 to remain firm for the
company
Cropchem division witnessed weakness due to high channel inventory and falling
prices. International environment remained weak
On fertiliser, raw material prices like ammonia etc continue to witness weakness.
Rock phosphate prices, though holding on, are likely to come down with falling
phos acid prices.
MPP plant at Dahej and further investment opportunity in crop nutrient segment
Investment in new age businesses like drones, which are related to its existing
business. These investment plans will continue to clock capex led growth while
using strong cash flow generated internally
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Dhanuka Agritech
Business highlights
Current inventory level of ~INR4bn.
Sales returns in the quarter have been high due to falling prices as channel
returned the high-cost inventory.
Herbicide sales contributed 54% as this is the peak season for Herbicide followed
by 27% from insecticide. Fungicide and other remained at ~10%.
With heavy monsoon, west region contributed 41% while north at 30%, south
20% and east 10%.
One formulation unit, one insecticide MPP plant for synthetic pyrethroids, and
a MPP weedicide plant
The sowing of rice, cotton and oilseeds has also gained momentum after a slow
start, but planting is still lagging behind in pulses, which are down by about 10%
in area.
Chanel inventory was high till Q1FY23 as farmer level consumption was weak.
However with strong pick up in demand in July, current inventory levels in the
markets are low.
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Rallis India
Business update
Late monsoon caused delayed sowings – Kharif sowing down by 3%; Crop and
Segment shifts impacted Q1 FY24
Dahej SEZ MPP - Trial production has been commenced, 60% capacity utilisation
expected to be achieved in FY24
Innovation T/O index in FY23 was 13%, company expects to reach 15% by end of
FY24
Crop Care
Crop Care revenue de-grew by 13% to INR 5190 Mn. Multiple factors especially
falling prices, lower global demand and delayed monsoon led to lower revenues
Domestic Crop care de-grew by 4.5% due to delayed season amid late monsoon
and falling prices
Exports declined by 29.6% primarily due to volume drop arising from higher
global inventories
Seeds
Seeds revenue de-grew by 2% to INR 2620 Mn, EBITDA lower by 7% at INR 520
Mn, PAT lower by 7% at INR 350 Mn which is reflective of EBIDTA trend
The new hybrid seed molecule launched recently seeing good volumes, 4L
packets sold in current quarter compared to 1L in Q1FY23, product expected to
grow even more
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Outlook
Revenue mix aspiration FY25E – 60% Domestic, 40% International
Pricing growth unlikely to happen in near term, volume to be key driver for
overall growth
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Sharda CropChem
Q1FY24 – Operational highlights
Overall volumes declined by 11% while price / product mix change impacted
revenue growth by 18%. Currency was positive 6.5%.
Europe regions sales down by 21%, NAFTA 14%, LATAM 51% and ROW 16%. All
the markets reported drop in sales.
Volume in Europe declined by 37% and LATAM by 53%. Lower volumes in Europe
and LATAM regions on account of high inflation, ongoing recession and adverse
weather conditions.
However, volume in NAFTA and ROW increased by 49% and 47%, respectively
but weakening realisations and change in product mix led to overall drop in sales.
Prices in US has seen sharpest drop.
Most of the raw material prices have gone to pre-covid level with correction of
30-50% in prices.
Management expect input prices probably has bottomed out, however inventory
destocking may continue from manufacturers in China and poor demand at
farmers level.
Further increase in debtor days from 109 days to 120 days impacted working
capital.
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UPL
Overall crop protection remaind challenging
Crop protection business was impacted by industry-wide headwinds globally –
Channel Destocking - Distributors opting for need-based tactical purchase
Aggressive price competition from Chinese post patent exporters
Demand at the farm level continues to remain strong; expect channel demand
to recover in H2FY24
Significant decline in herbicide volume and prices, and product bans in Europe
Region wise – LATAM reported 15% drop in ales while North America were down
highest at 56%. Europe region sales were down by 19% and ROW by 10%
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Improved monsoon from June-end onwards to aid demand recovery and drive
much better performance in Q2FY24 as against Q1FY24
Outlook
Commissioned the 61MW hybrid wind and solar power plant with
commencement of power supplies in Jun-23. Will help reduce energy costs and
carbon footprint
Outlook
Expected to perform better in line with the recovery in the agro and specialty
chemicals markets
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Lowered its guidance for FY24 to revenue growth to 1-5% from (6-10%) and
EBITDA 3-7% growth (from 8-12%)
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Automobiles
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With reference to Jan’23 fire accident, insurance amount of INR1bn has been
received and further amount of INR3.4bn is expected in future.
Post the damage to tubular plant in fire accident, the new plant will be setup
over next 18-20 months. During this phase, the tubular business will be carried
on through trading route, resulting in lower blended margins.
The new energy business has been transferred to subsidiary Amara Raja
Advanced Cell Technologies Private Limited (ARACT) as of 1st June. In new energy
business company sells battery packs and chargers to customers in 3W (Piaggio,
M&M), 2W and Industrial segments.
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Apollo Tyres
In Q1FY24 volumes declined YoY in both India and Europe regions.
In Europe, company has gained ~15bps market share in PCLT and ~20 bps share
in OHT segment.
Net debt decreased from INR43bn in Mar’23 to INR38bn in Jun’23. The gross debt
also came down INR56bn in Mar‘23 to INR54bn in Jun’23.
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Ashok Leyland
MHCV industry growth expected at 8-10% and LCV industry growth at 5-6% in
FY24. Growth drivers for MHCVs are likely to be better macros, government
thrust on infra spending, higher replacement demand and strong growth in
buses.
Market share gains expected in FY24 on the back of network expansion in non-
South regions and new products.
Focus continues on electrification, and launches are planned in LCVs and Buses
in coming quarters.
In Q1, power solutions segment volume doubled YoY to 8,776 units, owing to
anticipated pre-buying before change in emission norms for gensets. Considering
strong Q1, Q2/Q3 volumes are likely to be muted. The implementation date for
change in emission norms has been postponed by 12 months by government.
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CEAT
In Q1FY24, OEM segment share stood at 27%, which is 2% lower than FY23 levels.
This could normalize in coming quarters.
EVs: In 2Ws, company has 40%+ share. In PVs, it has tied up with OEMs such as
M&M, MG Motors, Tata Motors and Kia Motors. In TBR, it has tied up with Tata
Motors, VECV, JBM Auto and BYD.
FY24 capex guidance maintained at INR7.5bn. New project of 45,000 TBR tyres
capex planned at Chennai with investment of INR7bn spread over FY24-26.
OTR capacity to reach 105 TPD this quarter, and further addition of 55TPD
expected by FY25..
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Eicher Motors
Demand remains healthy and upcoming festive season growth is expected to be
positive. Company has planned a slew of product launches in a staggered manner
to support volumes and addressable market ahead.
The share of >250cc motorcycles stands at ~8% versus ~3% ten years ago. This
share is expected to further increase over the medium to long term.
In overseas markets, despite weak demand situation in Q1, the company has
been able to gain share in most markets. Market share stands at 8% in Americas,
9% in APAC and 9% in EMEA regions in middle weight motorcycles.
Five assembly units (Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Thailand and Nepal) at overseas
markets are functioning at a single shift, and ramp-up of production is expected
as demand conditions improve.
Commodity cost headwinds are behind, and company has taken a price increase
of 1.5% in Q2.
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Escorts Kubota
Agri segment
Tractor industry growth expected at low to mid single digits in FY24, as a result
of encouraging trends in rainfall season and positive haulage (non-agri) demand.
In Q1, Escorts gained share owing to better mix (industry growth was better in
strong markets) and market share gains in opportunity markets. Market share
gains in opportunity markets is driven by network expansion, focus on <30HP
segment and increased marketing efforts.
Exports are expected to pickup from Sep’23 onwards, as company will launch
more products and enter more regions through Kubota network.
In Q1, served industry growth was at 30% YoY, and Escorts outperformed with
growth of 42%. New launch in compactors also supported volumes.
Q1 margin expansion was supported by price increase (1% in Apr’23), better mix
and commodity deflation. Product mix has improved with better share of higher
tonnage products.
Railways segment
Q1 margin was supported by better scale and mix. FY24 EBIT margin guidance at
16-17%.
Others
NCLT approval for amalgamation with Kubota Agri Machinery expected within 6
months.
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Hero MotoCorp
Recently launched models that have received a positive response include Harley
X440, Passion, Super Splendor XTEC, Xoom 125 and Glamor 125. Company
expects to launch a series of premium 2Ws ahead.
Vida electric scooter has received a positive response, and model is likely to be
made available in 100+ cities by Dec'23 versus 36 cities currently. Multiple EVs
across various use cases are expected to be launched over the next few years.
In Q1FY24, share of losses from associates increased due to one-time costs for
Ather, relating to refund of charger costs to customers.
Dealer inventory stands at six weeks, versus a normal level of six–seven weeks.
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Order book remains large at 281,000 units relating to 117,000 units for Scorpio,
77,000 units for XUV700, 68,000 units for Thar, 11,000 units for XUV300/400 and
8,400 units for Bolero.
Timeline for launch of five EVs based on dedicated platform timeline remains
unchanged, between Dec-24 to Oct-26. Expect EV share of 20-30% in SUVs by
F27.
Farm
Farm implements revenue grew 24% to INR1.8bn. Expect 40% growth in FY24.
Industry size stands at INR60-70bn.
Others
RBL Bank Investment: Company has said that the investment (INR4bn for 3.5%
stake) is based on a long-term view (7-10 years). The primary purpose has been
to understand banking, which will enable to enhance the value of financial
services business. Further investment is not expected, unless there is
compelling strategic value.
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Maruti Suzuki
Scheme of arrangement: With objective of bringing in efficiency in production
and supply chain, all production related activities are being brought under listed
entity. The consideration would be at book value of ~INR127bn, through cash or
share swap (to be decided in next board meeting). The amalgamation will include
the EV assembly line, but not the battery facility. This amalgamation is expected
to be completed by Mar-24.
Pending order-book stands at ~355,000 units. Of this, 93,000 units are for Ertiga,
48,000 units for Brezza, 27,000 units for Grand Vitara, 23,000 units for Jimny,
23,000 for Fronx and 8,000 units for Invicto. Production is improving sequentially
owing to better supplies.
Q1FY24 first time buyer demand stands at 40% vs. 42-44% earlier, owing to
postponement of purchases by entry level customers.
Q1FY24 CNG vehicle demand remains strong, with highest ever sales share of
27%.
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Q1FY24 EBITDA margin has expanded due to better scale and mix (lower share
of traction motors). For driveline products, RM cost is lower but other expenses
are higher. In case of traction motors, RM cost is higher due to bought out
components, but other expenses are lower.
New orders worth INR13bn was added during the quarter. Major ones include:
i) Differential assembly for Class5 E-CVs (NA). ii) Hub wheel traction motor for E-
2Ws (India). iii) Mid-drive traction motor & controller for E-OHVs (India). iv) Final
drive differential assembly for recreational OHVs (Overseas).
Company has tied up with Equipmake for motors and inverters with power
output of 100-440kW for E-Buses and E-LCVs. Details of tie-up are: i) Equipmake
to provide validated design for setting up manufacturing facility in India and
production will start in 2025. ii) Sona would have exclusive rights to sell these
products in the licensed territory (India, Thailand, and select South Asian
markets). iii) Sona will supply to Equipmake as well for other markets such as
Europe and US. iv) Royalty payment will be applicable.
Starter motor segment is expected to shrink over the long term due to EV
penetration.
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Tata Motors
Consolidated
Scheme of arrangement: Company has announced cancellation of DVR shares,
and allotment of ordinary shares, in ratio of 7 ordinary shares for every 10 DVR
shares. This translates to 23% premium to the previous day closing price for DVR
shares. The transaction will reduce the total share capital by ~4% making it EPS
accretive for shareholders. The transaction is expected to be completed in 12-15
months, subject to regulatory approvals.
JLR
JLR order book remains strong at 185,000 units, with 76% contribution from RR,
RRS & Defender models.
ICE share in retails has reduced to 26% (vs. 34% in Q1FY23), while mild hybrids
has increased to 61% (54%) and BEVs/PHEVs has increased to 13% (12%).
Q1FY24 margin expansion yoy was driven by favourable volume, mix, pricing and
foreign exchange revaluation offset partially by higher inflation and supplier
claims. Reported margin was at 8.6%. However, excluding one-time impact,
margin is at 7.5%. The one-time impact was due to production being ~10,000
units higher than dispatches.
India CV
Market share in Q1 was partially impacted by constrained availability of some
vehicles due to BS6 Phase II transition / ramp up. Availability has now normalized.
Focus would be to regain market share through upgraded product portfolio that
offers better cost of ownership, value added offerings to customers (such as
Telematics) and increased marketing efforts.
Q1FY24 margin expansion yoy was driven by favourable volume, mix and pricing.
Going ahead, reduction in steel prices will support margin expansion.
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In E-Buses, 100 buses were deployed in Q1FY24. A total of 600 buses are
operational.
TML Smart City Mobility Solutions has deployed 200 buses, and has posted
revenue of INR1.3bn in Q1FY24.
India PV
Share in volumes has reduced to petrol vehicles to 63% (vs. 72% in Q1FY23) and
diesel vehicles to 15% (20%), while CNG has increased to 8% (3%) and BEVs has
increased to 14% (5%).
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TVS Motors
2W industry growth in FY24 to be supported by robust urban demand and
moderate growth in rural demand.
Focus remains on EVs, with new E-2W launch scheduled in Q2FY24 and E-3W
launch in Q3FY24.
TVS Credit Services registered Q1 PBT of INR1.57bn vs. INR1.11bn last year. Post
the recent stake sale, TVSL holding is likely to be 81%.
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Uno Minda
Switches
Received incremental order from Korean company. Gaining share from Indian
and Korean companies.
Q1FY24 exports were lower due to slow ramp of American OEM and slowdown
in Europe.
Lightings
Received orders for ambient lighting and head/rear lamps from leading new age
EV OEM.
Kosei Minda has been consolidated from Q1 FY24 and turnaround plan includes
refurbishment of assets, consolidation of non-profitable exports and common
procurement with Minda Kosei.
Acoustics
Seatings
Other segments
Won a large order for wireless charger for BEV and ICE program of an Indian
OEM.
Sensor & controller revenues stood at Rs2bn in Q1FY24 and expect over INR8bn
revenue in FY24.
EVs: Received an annual order of INR3bn including chargers for 2W/3W and RCD
for PV.
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EV systems plant (under JV) in Farrukhnagar has started two assembly lines and
capacity would further expand in H2FY24.
In Q1FY24, profit from associates improved led by higher profits for TG, Denso
Ten and Roki.
Others
Expect FY24 EBITDA margin to be near FY23 level. PLI scheme benefit could start
flowing in FY24.
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Banking
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Axis Bank
Retail loans
Retail loans grew 21% YoY/ 2% QoQ to INR4978bn.
Of the total retail book, 77% of the book is secured (with home loans comprising
of 32%) and unsecured disbursements remain in the range of 20-25% since last
4 quarters.
Disbursements for housing loans grew 8% YoY, small business banking grew 46%
and personal loan disbursements grew 21% YoY.
Corporate banking
Total corporate book grew 22% YoY to INR8585bn. SME book grew 24% YoY to
INR876bn.
Operating expenses
Operating expenses during the quarter were INR82bn growing 28% YoY/ 12%
QoQ primarily on account of BAU expenses in relation to Citi acquisition which
were not there in Q1FY23 (and only 1 month expense in Q4FY23).
Staff cost during the quarter was INR26.9bn (+23% YoY and 24% QoQ) and it
was on account of a full quarter of cost for Citi employees, increments and
annual incentives to employees, addition of 8,366 employees in Q1FY24 to the
tech team and growth businesses and marginal impact of gratuity
Branches
The bank will likely open ~400 branches in FY24.
CET-1 ratio stood at 14.38%, well above the requirement for protecting its ‘AAA
domestic rating’. The prudent Covid provisions translate to a capital cushion of
48bp.
The management reiterated that Citi will remain ROE accretive post integration,
but the cost ratios might remain sticky until the integration phase is over.
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Bandhan Bank
Loans
Total loans grew 6.7% YoY/declined 5.5% QoQ to INR1,031.7bn. The QoQ decline
in the loans was attributed to: i) Decline in MFI book by 9.7% QoQ on account of
weather disturbances in few states and seasonality. MFI loans had declined 6%
QoQ/9% QoQ in Q1FY23/Q1FY22. ii) Repayment of a short-term loan account of
INR21.5bn in TD-OD. Growth in retail and CB continue to be strong.
Retail loan book, which includes gold loans, personal loans, two-wheeler loans
and auto loans, grew ~86% YoY to INR33.7bn.
Commercial Banking, which includes FIG and SME, grew 78% YoY to INR215.5bn.
Housing finance was sluggish last quarter (declined -0.6% QoQ), however,
Bandhan is witnessing normalcy in this segment now. During Q1FY24, housing
loans grew 1.4% QoQ to INR269.5bn.
Management guided for overall loan growth of 20%+ in FY24 and stated that it
would focus on the retail segment and diversification.
Deposits
Deposits grew at 16.6% YoY to INR1084.8bn – faster than the industry growth of
~12% YoY primarily because of focus on granular deposits by Bandhan and
growth in retail TD (+10.7% QoQ/ 16.5% YoY)
During the quarter, liability customers increased 3.4% QoQ/ 11.5% YoY (~0.7mn
new customers), transaction volumes increased 9% QoQ/ 50% YoY, value of
transactions improved 5% QoQ / 15% YoY. Digital transactions grew 49% YoY and
average digital transaction per customer account grew 33% YoY.
Decline in CASA deposit (-8.8% QoQ) was attributed to the seasonal impact.
However, management believes that CASA ratio of 36% is healthy.
Deposits are expected to grow faster than the loans at 24%+ YoY.
Bandhan had provided loans guaranteed by NCGTC under the ECLGS scheme and
the CGMFU Scheme. It further has a coverage of 86% of the NPAs covered under
these schemes (even where it is not required to make provisions).
Loans under the CGMFU Scheme were already being classified as NPA on
becoming 90+dpd and accordingly there was no impact on GNPA of the RBI
notification. However, loans of INR5.8bn under the ECLGS scheme were re-
classified in Q1FY24 and treated as NPA.
Between ARC and CGMFU, the total amount of recovery is INR2.7bn, of which
INR2.3bn in ARC and INR0.4bn in CGMFU pool.
The recovery process under ECLGS is slower than CGMFU and, therefore, takes
time for an NPA to move out of the book. However, management expects that
CGMFU-like process shall be introduced for ECLGS as well in six months or so.
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Bank of Baroda
Reiterates guidance for FY24E
Loan growth to be above the industry growth by 1-2% i.e. ~13-14%
Overseas book will grow in-line with the total loan book growth.
Loans
Management aspires to bring the retail: corporate book mix to 65:35 in couple
of years. Presently, the retail book constitutes ~27% whereas the corporate
book constitutes ~43% of the total domestic loans.
The pipeline in the corporate book is good with strong demand from
infrastructure and renewable sectors and industrial sector for working capital
loans.
Deposits
BoB will focus on growing CASA. CASA has remained soft for the industry.
Term deposits grew 3.6% QoQ of which, bulk TDs grew 11% while retail TD was
flat QoQ.
There is marginal difference in the term deposit rates between retail and
wholesale.
The yields could increase as the MCLR book is not repriced fully yet. Further,
change in mix by increasing the retail share would also contribute to margins,
though not significantly (~5bp). This will offset the increase in cost of deposits.
Stressed book
As of Q1FY24, total outstanding restructured book stood at INR130bn (down by
~30bn from Q4FY23). Of the total book, INR5bn has slipped into NPA. Total
provisions on the restructured book is INR15.5bn.
Further, some of the stress accounts on which provisions are created are as
follows: one power account of INR2.55bn, GoFirst account with INR6.39bn and
a hospitality account of INR0.87bn. Though these accounts are not restructured,
management has made provisions on a prudent basis.
On the GoFirst account, 30% of the exposure is backed by ECLGS, and 35% is
backed by consortium collateral. The provision of INR6.39bn is more than the
unsecured part (35%). Management is expecting full recovery from this account.
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Asset quality
Recovery during the quarter was lower QoQ (INR9.86bn in Q1FY24 versus
INR17.95bn in Q4FY23) as large accounts were settled in Q4FY23.
During the quarter, RBI had implemented a penalty of INR5.7mn, reason for
which was not discussed.
Fraud accounts were entirely provided for (INR0.29bn), during the quarter. Of
which, INR0.16bn was on account of incremental frauds during the quarter.
Collection efficiency was lower during the quarter at 97% as one large account
was collected after the quarter. Including that, the CE would have been 98.9%.
Reported credit cost higher QoQ at 70bp was on account of additional floating
provisions of INR2bn and account specific provisions of INR4.2bn made in the
quarter. Management stated that if the specific credit cost is below the guided
range, it may make further floating provisions
Other highlights
Management has made higher tax provisions during the quarter on a prudent
basis leading to higher tax rates.
On the credit card business, the financial and legal due diligence is
completed and the prospective investors are evaluating the reports.
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Federal Bank
Loans
Management believes that the credit opportunities are shaping up well and
demand is intact across segments. Demand in July-2023 is sustaining and should
continue in Q2FY24 as well.
Management reiterated its stance that it would refrain from venturing into
riskier segments even when it generates higher yields. FB would not
compromise on the quality of retail lending.
Loan mix as of Q1FY24 was as follows: Repo linked: ~49%, MCLR linked ~14%,
linked to other benchmarks ~10% (of which base-rate linked is 4.5%) and fixed
rate book at ~27%.
On the portfolio mix, the management stated that the unsecured book would
not exceed 10% and the share of any segment would not exceed 15% of the
total portfolio. It would continue with the current retail: wholesale mix of
~54:46.
Deposits
Deposits grew 4% QoQ/21% YoY to INR2,225bn in Q1FY24 largely aided by the
withdrawal of INR 2,000 notes.
45% of deposits are within Kerala. FB has ~70% of its network in the semi-urban
and rural areas across India excluding Kerala. These branches are taking a higher
share of incremental deposits.
Cost of TDs is ~6.4% and the incremental cost is ~6.5%. Blended cost of SA
deposits stood at 3.2% (similar level in Q4FY23).
During the quarter, cost of funds stood at 5.32% and the management expects
that this might increase to 5.40% in Q2FY24.
Retail deposits as per LCR stood at ~85-86% (at its peak, it was ~95%) and the
management aspires to bring this to ~88-89%.
Asset quality
Slippages during the quarter increased to INR4.90bn from INR4.36bn in Q4FY23
largely driven by higher slippages in retail restructured loans. Of the total retail
slippage, ~30% was from the restructured book on which moratorium ended in
Q4FY23.
Guidance
Management maintained the loan growth guidance of 18-20%.
NIM guidance for FY24 is ~3.3% (excluding the expected capital raise).
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Other highlights
During the quarter, FB’s chairman Mr. C Balagopal retired and the new chairman
took charge on June 27, 2023.
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The company revised its growth guidance from 30% plus to 35% plus AUM
growth in the medium term which would be driven by the levers of branch
expansion, employee strength (number of officers per branch), and increase in
the average lending ticket size.
The management revised the guidance upwards as it believes that the impact of
Covid has waned, collections are back to pre-covid levels and momentum in
Q1FY24 is similar to Q2FY23 and Q3FY23 – which are generally strong quarters.
Borrowings
The company has well-diversified profile of lenders of about 50 banks, with SBI
being the largest lender. Of the total borrowings, ~35% is from the top-5 lenders
with an average tenure (at origination) being 5.5 to 6 years.
The company had sanction of INR8.9bn, of which, it availed INR7.3bn at the cost
of 9.18%. The all-in-cost of these loans was 9.5% (vs 9.53% in Q4FY23). Most of
the sanctions are based on MCLR rates (6-12 month duration).
During the quarter, CARE upgraded the credit rating to AA- and now, the
company has AA- rating from all the major rating agencies.
The current leverage on the balance sheet is ~2x and the management guided
that this would go up to 4-4.5x in a medium to long-term resulting in RoE of
~18%.
Margins
Margins declined 73bp QoQ to 17.74% largely because of the increasing leverage
on the balance sheet.
Going forward, management believes that the NIMs would be in the guided
range as the interest rates decline would impact only the incremental book. In
the medium term, spreads will be normalized by 100-125bp.
Distribution network
The company had earlier guided for opening 50-60 new branches in FY24E.
During the quarter, the company added 13 branches, taking the total number of
branches to 386.
Generally, a newly opened branch in the southern region achieves break even
within 6 months from its inception; however, for the branches opened in
northern region, management expects the break-even period to be about 9-10
months.
The biggest competitors for the company in the newer geographies are SFBs and
the regional players.
The branch additions resulted in disbursal growth of 99% for the year. Loan
disbursement grew 2% QoQ to INR11.2bn – first time where Q1 disbursements
have exceeded Q4 disbursements.
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Asset quality
GS3 assets increased 5bp QoQ/29bp YoY to 1.41%, whereas 90+dpd increased
4bp QoQ to 1.08%. 30+dpd declined 83bp to 9.68%.
Restructured book stood at 0.76% of AUM and the company has a coverage of
~50% on the restructured book. OF the total restructured book, 90% is standard.
PCR on the overall book improved from 1.61% in Q4FY23 to 1.64% in Q1FY24,
whereas PCR on stage-3 is 44.19%. Management stated that it would like to bring
the PCR to 40%.
The management further guided that ATS might increase to ~INR450,000 due to
inflation in a period of 3-5 years.
Other highlights
During the quarter, total investments increased from INR1.4bn to INR3.6bn as
fixed deposits were moved to investments in mutual funds as the yields were
higher. This has marginally impacted the CAR
Opex during the quarter was INR1.2bn declining 3% QoQ primarily because
Q4FY23 had a few one-offs on account of higher provisioning and some other
opex which were not incurred in Q1FY24.
The current book (non-delinquent accounts) is at 85% (82% pre-Covid) and the
management aims to increase this to 88% by March 2024 and 90% in the long
term.
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HDFC AMC
Revenue yields: Revenue yield dropped 3bp YoY, 1bp QoQ to 47.3bps as a
percentage of QAAUM in Q1FY24. Management attributed the fall in revenue
yield to churning of its legacy AUM. New inflows continue to come in at lower
revenue yields compared to existing AUM. Also, there has been significant net
inflows in larger schemes which has resulted in incrementally lower yields.
Blended equity yield for the quarter at 66-68bps.
Product pipeline: Transportation & logistics fund and Cancer cure fund are the
two products in pipeline. Management believes that the company has best in
class product suite across asset classes, and does not need to launch a lot of new
schemes.
Debt funds: Even after major tax setback for debt funds in The Finance Bill 2023,
industry witnessed net inflow INR 574bn in Q1FY24 in debt category. Short
duration products such as money market funds saw major traction. Long
duration products may attract investors when markets have more confidence
about downward movement in interest rates.
SIP: Management stated that growing SIP is the number one priority of the
company as gives long-term visibility of flows. HDFC AMC crossed INR1tn SIP
AUM with strong SIP book INR18.9bn, increasing SIP market 250bp to 12.9% in
Q1FY24.
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HDFC Bank
Loans
Retail advances grew 4% QoQ/ 18% YoY to INR6578bn and was primarily driven
by housing loans (HL), which grew 6.3% QoQ/22.9% YoY to INR1084bn. Post-
merger, the home loan logins are 20% more than the pre-merger.
Personal loans (PL) grew 2.9% QoQ/ 19.5% YoY to INR1767bn and the moderate
growth QoQ was attributed to seasonality factor. The management stated that
the even where there are opportunities to grow the PL faster, the bank will have
a calibrated approach to grow this book.
Management would evaluate the wholesale book (of HDFC Ltd) prospects for 1-
2 quarters before building it up and would take a call thereafter on its growth.
It clearly stated that it would not be doing land financing and project financing
that does not meet the regulatory requirements.
On a proforma basis, gross advances (merged) grew 13% YoY (16% YoY ex-IBPC)
to INR22.4tn. Core loan growth (excluding HDFC’s wholesale book) grew 19%
YoY to INR22.1tn.
As of Q1FY24, HDFCB has sufficient PSL and RIDF. Management aspires to get
away with the PSL and RIDF requirement over a long term.
Management expects loan growth of ~17-18 YoY over a long term period.
Deposits
Incremental retail deposits were ~INR380bn during the quarter and constituted
83.5% of the total deposits as of Q1FY24 (82% in Q1FY23) whereas wholesale
deposits grew 9% YoY.
On a pro forma basis, total deposits (merged) grew 16% Yoy (19% ex-wholesale
deposits of HDFC Ltd) to INR20.6tn.
Cost of funds increased during the quarter to 4.0% (3.7% in Q4FY23) largely
because of the funding mix. Management stated that the pricing of the deposits
is at or below the competitor’s pricing as the bank is not willing to gain deposits
by lead pricing; it is rather focusing on customer engagement.
HDFCB added 2.4mn new liability relationships in Q1FY24 (2.6mn in 4QFY23 and
10.6mn in FY23).
Liquidity
LCR stood at 126% as at Q1FY24 versus 116% in Q4FY23 and 108% in Q1FY23.
Proforma LCR i.e. including estimated HDFC Ltd’s book is over 120%.
The bank added ~29,000 people in last 12 months and ~8,500 people during the
current quarter.
HDFCB has 4.6mn payment acceptance points (+37% YoY), of which, 2.8mn
merchants are accepting from the VYAPAR app.
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Home loans are now provided from 4,336 branches (twice the number as of Jun-
22).
Management stated that it is making use of the benign credit cost environment
for expansion and believes that the distribution network will be the key in the
medium and long term.
Cost to income ratio stood at 42.8% and the management believes that this
would come down once the investments start flowing through.
Asset quality
Slippage ratio of 35bp in Q1FY24 or INR58bn.Recoveries and upgrades of
INR26.5bn (or 16bp) and write off of INR31bn (19bp.)
Of the total GNPL of 1.17%, 103bp is NPL and 14bp is standard but classified as
NPL because other facilities are classified as NPLs
Credit cost was 70bp during the quarter (67bp in Q4FY23 and 91bp in Q1FY23)
gross of recoveries and 51bp net of recoveries (44bp in Q4FY23)
Credit cards
HDFCB issued 1.5mn cards during the quarter and the total cards issued stood at
18.4mn as of Q1FY24. Customer spending increased 10% QoQ and 30% YoY.
Merger-related
Merger related cost would include stamp duty, technology costs, etc, however,
it would not be a significant amount. It would also incur cost on capital assets
for the required infrastructure.
Liabilities of ~INR 6.3tn (including deposits) moved from HDFC Ltd to HDFC bank.
Home loan book of HDFC Ltd will be moved from prime lending rate to repo-
rate based pricing.
HDFC Ltd has ~4mn customers of which, management believes that it has
opportunity to get 2.5-3mn customers to the bank.
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Demand and guidance: Company expects the demand for protection segment
to remain high and that the current growth rate in this segment is sustainable.
Management expects VNB expansion in FY24E to be led by APE growth rather
than any significant margin expansion. The company has maintained market
share in credit life across partners. Growth in individual protection due to
increasing visibility, data analytics, and fast on ground conversion. Management
has guided for a stronger growth in Q2FY24 and H2FY24 would be better than
H1FY24. APE growth of 13% can be attributed to 9% growth in number of
policies sold and 3% growth in average ticket size. Management re-stated that
growth excluding the impact of one-time demand seen in FY23 of INR 11bn
would be ~15%.
Expansion beyond tier -1: Company is focused to expand to Tier 2 & 3 cities
with improved underwriting metrics and risk management systems. Better
underwriting metrics have been adopted by understanding underwriting and
risk assessment models of successful NBFCs catering this market. Exide life had
a good presence in Tier 2 & 3 cities in southern India. Average ticket size for Tier
2 cities is around 85k (Tier 1 ~130K) which was better than management’s
expectation. Management expects ticket size in tier 3 cities to be ~INR 70k-75k
is also higher than management expectation. Management expects profitability
from Tier 2 cities will be in par as relevant risks have been priced in. Persistency
improved from 84% to 87% in tier 2 markets, and from 80% to 84% in tier 3
markets.
Exide merger: Company has witnessed synergies of merger in terms of both cost
reduction and entry to new market. Exide life had a good presence in Tier 2 & 3
cities in southern India. On cost front, branch expenses and general corporate
expenses have been rationalised which helped the company get to margin
neutrality ahead of plan. Persistency of Exide portfolio was inferior to HDFC
Life’s portfolio but there has been improvement ~400bp across cohorts.
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40% in non-PAR products for INR2-4 lakh category in Q1FY24, whereas share of
policies above INR 0.5mn in ticket size continues to remain high.
Economic variances: Economic variance for Q1FY24 is INR 8.1bn as the equity
the markets have rallied around 10% in this quarter compared to the company’s
expectation of 2-2.5%, contributing to INR5bn vs. fixed income contributed to
~INR 3.1bn.
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ICICI Bank
Loan book
The bank’s share of unsecured retail loans i.e. personal loans and credit card has
increased to 12.8% in Q1FY24 from 12.3% in Q4FY23.
Of the total domestic loan book, ~31% of loans are fixed rate, while 69% are
floating (46% are repo-linked, 3% are linked to other benchmarks and 20% are
mainly MCLR linked).
Overseas loan portfolio declined 29% YoY (5% QoQ) and stood at 3.1% of the
total loan book as of Q1FY24 (3.3% in Q4FY23). The decline was primarily due
to maturities in the short-term non-India linked trade finance book.
Margins
NIM declined 12bp QoQ to 4.78% in Q1FY24 reflecting the lagged impact of
increase in deposit rates over the last year, offset in part by an increase in loan
and investment yields.
The impact of interest on income tax refund on NIM was 3 bps in Q1FY24 (Nil in
Q4FY23 and 3bp in Q1FY23).
Operating expenses
Employee costs during the quarter were INRINR38.8bn increasing 36% YoY /
14% QoQ despite the higher base in Q4FY23 (one-off retirement related
provisions) primarily on account of annual incentive payout, promotions and
employee addition in last 12 months. Management stated that it would
continue to hire employees for next few quarters.
The non-employee related expenses grew 20% YoY (2% QoQ) and were mainly
driven by retail business sourcing and technology costs.
Tech spends was at ~9% of total Q1FY24 operating expenses (9.3% in FY23).
Distribution network
ICICIBC added 174 branches in the quarter, (182 in Q4FY24) to take the total network
to 6,104 branches.
Non-interest income
Fee income grew ~14% YoY primarily led by fee from retail, rural and business
banking and SME. Fee from these segments comprise 78% of the total fee
income.
During the quarter, ICICIBC received total dividend of INR 2.91bn (versus
INR3.47bn in Q1FY23) from its subsidiaries and the YoY decline was on account
of lower final dividend from ICICI Securities Primary Dealership.
Other highlights
LCR for Q1FY24 stood at 122% (similar to Q4FY23).
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ICICI Lombard GI
Motor business
Loss ratio for motor OD improved 660bp YoY to 67% in Q1FY24, management is
hopeful to maintain this loss ratio on back of strong underwriting & data
analytics based decision-making process.
Given no TP rate hike in FY24, the company reduced its exposure to the CV
segment where it expects higher loss inflation
Health business
Retail health net earned premium increased 15.6% YoY to INR 2.6bn due to price
hike ~19% in Feb-23.
Company continues to grow retail health in line with SAHI growth and is gaining
market share. For Q1 market share improved by 10bp to 3.1%.
Catastrophic event (cyclone) during the quarter affected property & casualty
segment, the net impact of claims because of cyclone losses has been about
INR350mn or 90bp on loss ratio.
Most of the impact of the cyclone led loss is in the fire, and engineering
segments.
Due to El-nino, management has opted for cautious approach in crop segment
and has provided for loss ratio of 102.1%; and aims to keep revenue from this
segment below 5% of total revenues.
Industry moving away from IIB rates has impacted premium growth but
company has still managed to grow the property segment.
Distribution
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Other highlights
Management stated that move to IND-AS could benefit combined ratios by upto
400bp.
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• Implementation of use and file procedure for unit-linked insurance plans (ULIPs)
and combi plans (combination of life & health insurance plans) by IRDAI are
positive for the industry enabling development of the insurance industry and
ease of doing business.
• APE growth will be the key driver to VNB in future as against VNB margin which
helped the company grow VNB two fold in four years.
- APE growth was impacted by decline in group protection, ICICI Bank channel
and in other bank channels.
- Management expects expect savings business to grow in line with nominal GDP
growth of the country, protection and annuity business to grow ahead of the
savings business.
- VNB margin declined 100bp YoY to 30% in Q1FY24 due to change in product mix
& spike in expense ratios.
- VNB declined 7% YoY as 1) share of group protection declined and 2) within non-
linked savings participating products saw higher sales. This largely offset the
strong growth in retail protection.
Distribution
• Company has added 7,841 new agents in Q1FY24. Agency channel has grown
20%/22% in May-23/June-23, weak APE growth in Q1FY24 due to spill over to
March due to changes in tax regulations.
• ICICI Bank channel’s APE weakened 34.6% YoY to INR 1.97bn. Growth from
other bank channels was muted due to advancement of purchases from
customers in Q4FY23 on the back of regulatory changes. Management expects
this impact to taper off.
Product mix
• Under group segment, credit life continues to do well and management expects
group term insurance sales to improve in near future. Growth has been
impacted in GTI business due to pressure on pricing. GTI business had seen
significant improvement in pricing during COVID-19.
• Management remained non-committal on growth prospects of ICICI Bank
channel as the bank continues to focus only on term protection and annuity
products, with ULIP offering being on shelf.
• Retail protection APE grew 61.8% YoY to 1.1 bn as distribution channels re-
aligned to sales of this product and underwriting restrictions eased.
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Retail loan book grew 6.8% QoQ /27% YoY to INR973bn and the QoQ growth
was largely driven by consumer loans and wheels. Credit cards grew off a lower
base. The bank issued more than 1.17mn cards in Q1FY24. LAP was flat QoQ as
the bank sold off some part of the book.
Credit cards are largely provided to its existing customers and the bank is
looking to add more co-branded cards with additional benefits for general
customers.
Infrastructure book decelerated 44% YoY and constitutes ~2.2% of the total
funded assets now.
The bank is ensuring that it has limited business risk on its book as ~28% of the
book is backed by mortgage.
Deposits
Deposits grew 9% QoQ/44% YoY to INR1485bn, whereas CASA deposits rose
27% YoY/flat QoQ to INR71.8bn. Excluding the outflow of one large chunky
account of INR21bn, CASA deposits grew 3% QoQ.
Management stated that though the bank is not at par with large private banks
in terms of providing end-to-end solutions to current account holders; it
believes that, it has the opportunity to build such solutions.
Management believes that the growth in deposits is despite the rate-cuts that
the bank has taken recently.
Non-interest income
The bank is gaining traction in trade finance, cash management, supply chain
management, etc, and management believes that the bank is moving towards
being a universal bank.
Fee and other income in Q1FY24 was INR1341, growing ~49% YoY. Retail fee
constitutes 91% of the total fee income.
Margins
NIM declined 8bp QoQ to 6.33% in Q1FY24, and management stated that they
believe NIM would be stable hereon.
Asset quality
GNPA ratio declined 33bp QoQ to 2.17%. Excluding the infra book, GNPA ratio
was 1.71%
Restructured book stood at 0.47% of the funded assets and 25% of the book is
provided for. Of the total restructured book, ~85% is secured.
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Distribution network
IDFCB added 15 branches in Q1FY24 taking the total network to 824 branches.
Other highlights
LCR for Q1FY24 stood at 125%, and management stated that they would
maintain the LCR at the current level.
During the quarter, the bank’s long-term credit rating has been upgraded by
CRISIL and ICRA.
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IndusInd Bank
Overall loan book
Loans grew 22% YoY to INR3013bn driven equally by corporate and retail book.
Of the total loan book, 46% is retail book while 54% is corporate book. Large part
of the corporate book is on floating rate. Management stated that it would
continue to have share of retail book at 43-45% and corporate book at 55-57%
in the total book.
Retail book
Retail business segments showed strong growth with business banking and credit
cards growing 7% QoQ each and VF growing 4% QoQ, whereas MFI declined 0.7%
QoQ.
Strong momentum in the retail book led to core fee income growth of 2% QoQ
and 19% YoY to INR21.19bn. Share of retail fee improved to 73% in Q1FY24 (70%
in Q4FY23).
Vehicle Finance
Vehicle finance grew 4% QoQ / 21% YoY to INR 783bn; disbursements grew 18%
YoY led by demand in commercial vehicles, utility vehicles and cars; however,
demand was muted for tractors and 2Ws. Management expects improvement in
disbursements and recovery in 2HFY24.
Microfinance segment
Disbursements grew 12% YoY to INR84.1bn. NTB disbursements in terms of
number of borrowers grew 19% YoY.
During the quarter, IIB added 5,04,000 new customers. Active borrower base
increased 5% YoY.
Management expects the MFI book to grow at 18-20% in FY24E with large part
of the growth coming in H2FY24.
Corporate book
Corporate book grew 3.9% QoQ driven by broad-based growth across segments.
Small corporates grew 10% QoQ, large and mid-corporates grew 3% QoQ.
Corporates with less than INR5bn grew 14% QoQ.
Yield on corporate advances increased 10bp QoQ as large part of the corporate
book is on floating rate and IIB passed on the increased interest rates to the
customers. Going forward, the yields are expected to stabilize.
Share of top-20 accounts in the corporate book has reduced sharply over a
period, and constitute 12-13% of the total corporate book.
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The portion of ‘AA and above’ rated customers has increased from 73% in
Q4FY23 to 76% in Q1FY24.
Deposits
Deposits grew 3% QoQ / 15% YoY to INR3470bn. Deposits as per LCR grew 21%
YoY and share of retail deposits stood at 43.4%.
Deposits from affluent segment grew 22% YoY to INR444bn in Q1FY24 and AUM
of affluent segment stood at INR688bn (+17% YoY). NR deposits grew 9% QoQ to
INR 372bn.
Margins
NIM improved by 1bp QoQ / 8bp YoY to 4.28%. The management maintained its
guidance on NIM 4.2-4.3%, which would be achieved through: i) change in loan mix
ii) cost of deposits expected to normalize and iii) risk of cost getting downsized
Operating expenses
Opex during the quarter was INR32.4bn growing 6% QoQ largely on account of
employee addition, technology spends, annual appraisal action and expansion in
distribution network.
The bank will continue to make investment in physical and digital distribution.
Management aims to open 250-300 branches in FY24E.
The cost to income for Q1FY23 remained elevated at 46% and would continue to
remain at these levels for FY24E. Thereafter, the management believes that cost-
to-income ratio would be in the range of 41% to 43% in FY25E and thereafter, it
would settle between 40-41%.
Liquidity
IIB maintained average surplus liquidity of ~INR440bn during the quarter with
liquidity coverage ratio of 132% Q1FY24 versus 123% in Q4FY23.
Other highlights
Security receipts net of provisions stood at INR13.3bn as at Q1FY24. The bank
provided INR 1.3bn on SRs
During the quarter, part of the non-rated portfolio book got rated and even the
non-utilised limits got reduced resulting in lower RWA.
The bank awaits formal communication from RBI on promoter stake increase.
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NII grew 2% QoQ / 33% YoY. Core fees declined 5% QoQ. While some seasonality
in core fees sequentially in Q1 is a normal trend, even YoY growth in core fees is
soft at 10%.
NIM declined 18bp QoQ to 5.57%. Yield on loans rose 36bp QoQ driven by a sharp
increase in the share of unsecured loans from 10% to 11.5% QoQ. CoF rose 35bp
QoQ.
Total loans grew 17% YoY / 3% QoQ, a tad lower than expected. Growth in
secured retail loans including mortgages decelerated to 18% YoY / 2% QoQ while
unsecured loans grew faster at 51% YoY / 8% QoQ. SME and agri loans were flat
QoQ. Corporate loans grew 7% QoQ (on a low base) and 9% YoY.
Deposits grew 6% QoQ / 21% YoY. Fixed rate SA continued to be weak remaining
flat QoQ and declining 5% YoY. However, total SA grew 2% QoQ led by a sharp
25% QoQ rise in floating rate SA. The bank’s sweep deposits grew 24% QoQ (non-
annualized) and made a meaningful contribution to deposit growth.
Opex grew sharply by 31% YoY / 9% QoQ. Management explained that excluding
annual increments, opex growth would be 20%.
PPOP excluding non-core income grew 27% YoY but declined 7% QoQ while total
PPOP grew 78% YoY / 6% QoQ. The QoQ decline in core PPOP is higher than
peers.
Gross credit cost rose sharply from 23bp to 54bp QoQ, but remains lower than
the normalized level, so not a concern. The bank continues to draw down Covid
provisions. The draw down in Q1 was INR500mn compared to INR280mn QoQ.
The tax rate normalized in Q1FY24. In Q4FY23, it was lower because of a write-
back of provisions.
The bank is very optimistic about this product because while sweep deposits are
more expensive than normal savings deposits they are cheaper than pure term
deposits.
The blended cost of sweep deposits at 5.2% is ~170bp higher than ordinary SA
but it is cheaper than term deposits of ~7%.
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Kotak’s deposit franchise remains relatively weaker than ICICI’s and HDFC Bank’s
which is why the bank needed a product like sweep which would offer higher
rates than ordinary SA.
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Disbursements during the quarter were INR121.6bn (+28% YoY). MMFS has been
gaining market share across its product lines on the back of relatively higher
disbursements considering the seasonality in the first quarter.
The increased focus in the pre-owned vehicle segment is yielding good results
for MMFS.
Overall, the outlook on asset quality and collection efficiency remains strong.
Cost of funds
Cost of funds increased during the quarter as the old borrowings at lower rates
had matured and were replaced by new borrowings at higher rates.
Margins
Net interest margin stood at 6.8% as of Q1FY24 primarily on account of increase
in cost of borrowings and change in the product mix. Of the total decline of 40bp,
~50% could be attributable to higher cost of funds.
Asset quality
Gross Stage 3
Management believes that Q1FY24 was one of the best Q1s in terms of asset
quality as the Gross Stage 3 assets have declined QoQ, contrary to the general
seasonality impact.
The GS3 ratio stood at 4.3% versus 4.5% in Q4FY23 and 8.0% in Q1FY23. The
decline is largely attributable to the higher collection efficiency.
Collection efficiency for Q1FY24 stood at 94% (similar to Q1FY23) and the
management expects this trend to continue.
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Write-offs
Write-offs during the quarter were INR3.1bn. MMFS had changed its policy on
write-off. Earlier, the write-offs were taken in September and March, whereas
currently, the write-offs are taken every quarter.
Though the management did not provide a clear guidance on the write-off
amount for FY24E, it stated that the write-offs for remaining quarters could be
around the current quarter’s amount.
Credit cost
Credit cost increased during on account of seasonality. However, as the festive
season picks up from Q2FY24, the management expects credit cost to improve
by end of FY24E.
The floods in northern region has not affected the credit cost as there is no dip
in the collection efficiency in those regions.
Other highlights
Share of SME in total disbursements declined QoQ to 3% (7% in Q4FY23 and
Q1FY23) as the matured book is running down faster. The incremental
disbursements looks healthy though, at 45% YoY growth.
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Max Financials
Axis deal: Management clarified that the option of additional 0.98% stake sale
to Axis group would be through a secondary sale of MFSL to Axis group.
Management expects the deal to conclude within six months. Post completion
of the deal, the company is expected to start the process of direct listing of Max
Life.
Guidance: Management guides for double-digit growth for FY24 despite high
base of Mar-23. Management guided for Q2FY24 APE growth of around 20% and
given strong bolstering of solvency management now expects growth from Axis
Bank channel to improve and a medium term growth guidance of 20% over 3-4
years.
Margin: Management guided for margin of 27–28% for FY24E (lower than FY23)
as the company focuses more on top-line growth and continues to invest in
proprietary and bancassurance distribution channels. Management indicated
that it was adding 26% to the manpower at bank channels, and it was adding
offices and agents.
Axis bank channel: Management mentioned that Axis Bank channel contributed
51% of total APE. Counter share at axis bank continues to remain in the 68-72%.
Other Bank channels: Management indicated that growth slowdown over FY23
is attributable to adoption of open architecture by Axis Bank and YES Bank. These
channels have now stabilized and that the company now expects growth from
the banca channel to improve. Max Life in the past few quarters has added Tamil
Nadu Mercantile Bank, Ujjivan Small Finance Bank, DCB Bank, Capital Small
Finance Bank and South Indian Bank. Management expects strong scale up from
these channels and expects contribution from the new bank partners to improve
to 6-7% of total APE.
Propriety channels: Management aims to open 100 new branches during FY24
to enhance distribution from this channel. The company has also added two large
brokers, three large co-operatives, and additional agents to grow business.
Product mix
Non-PAR savings: Management indicated that there has not been any material
impact of tax changes as the segment continues to grow well. Company has
revised IRR downward for non-PAR products due to changes in yield curve and
this should enhance profitability in coming quarters. Management has also
guided for a 30-35% contribution from NPAR in FY24E.
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PAR: SWAG PAR product launched. Sales have been strong margin profile is
better than other PAR products.
Solvency: Capital infusion by axis bank will improve solvency margin by ~40%
which the management aims to fuel future growth. Management aims to grow
protection and annuity mix where capital requirements are high.
IFRS: Management mentioned that the company is selected in the first tranche
to implement IFRS and is working closely with regulator in this regard.
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Equity market share: NAM’s QAAUM equity market share improved 33bp to
6.5% because of 20% market share in net inflows (equity + hybrid) in Q1 and
strong performance.
SIP market share: Management indicated greater focus on scaling SIP book as it
provides long-term revenue visibility. SIP AUM surged 43%YoY to INR 686bn; SIP
book for Jun23 at INR 12.2bn. NAM’s 5-year SIP AUM retention ratio stood at
63%, which is significantly higher than industry’s 25%.
Debt AUM: Management attributed debt AUM increase of 18.5% QoQ to 1) net
inflows in short term funds 2) high closing AUM in Mar-23 due to tax changes
impacting QAAUM for Q1FY24.
Admin & other expenses: Management attributed increase in admin & other
expenses to 1) inflationary adjustments 2) increase in marketing spends to create
brand visibility. Management reiterated its commitments to keep discretionary
spends under control.
New fund launch: Management believes the company has well diversified
product suite and will launch new funds only if the opportunity is scalable.
Notably, company has not launched any new fund in last 18 months.
EPFO mandate: NAM has been selected as one of the mutual fund houses to
manage ETF allocation of EPFO. NAM has been allocated 25% of the total ETF
allocation in their Nifty ETF & Sensex ETF funds. Yield on this AUM to be at par
with existing assets in given funds at 4-5bp.
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PB Fintech
Management maintained its guidance of positive APAT in FY24 and INR 10bn
APAT in FY27.
PolicyBazaar
Renewal revenue ARR for the company (includes Paisabazaar) was at INR 4.2bn
(+53% YoY). This typically operates at over 85% margins and is a significant
source of profit growth to company.
Management indicated that improvement in take rate was primarily as a result
of mix change; which moved more towards protection.
Management highlighted that sales of new health & term products was at 40%
YoY; protection products saw growth after being subdued for the last two years,
while savings products witnessed a subdued quarter.
Management believes that revenue from health & life insurance segment
should grow at 2-3x industry growth.
PaisaBazaar
Management highlighted that the credit business it has reached run rate of
INR160bn disbursal and 0.58mn credit card issuance on an annualized basis.
Management highlighted that 75% of cards issued and 44% of unsecured loans
are end to end digital.
New initiatives
New Initiatives revenue has grew 11.2% YoY to INR 1.49bn in Q1 while the
Adjusted EBITDA improved YoY to INR 0.46 bn, moving from a -40% margin to -
10% it indicates that it has grown while building efficiencies.
PB Partners, agent aggregator platform, continues to lead the market in scale &
efficiency of operations. PB Partners has the highest proportion of Non-Motor
business covering 80% of the pin codes across India.
Management guided for investment of INR 1.5-2.5bn every year to grow POSP
business.
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Incremental asset quality remains strong with NPL of 0.2% in new agri loans,
1.56% in MSME, 0.18% in retail and 0.01% in corporate. Low NPLs in new loans
post Covid indicates that credit scoring has improved.
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Product Mix: SBI Life saw strong demand for ULIP as its contribution to product
mix improved 575bp YoY to 52.6% of APE on back of strong capital markets and
good fund performance. Share of Non PAR in product mix declined 907bp YoY
to 19.2%, management expects demand for non-par products to revive and
share in product mix in line with FY23 ~24-25%. The Company does not have a
target product mix as it tries to satisfy customer needs.
Group Protection: Group protection grew 33.3% YoY to 1.6bn. Product mix of
group protection was 45/55% for credit life/group term. Management is
optimistic about growing the credit life product as disbursements grow on back
of better economic conditions. Attachment rate at SBI for credit protect product
is ~45%.
Growth in ULIP: ULIP APE grew 16.9% YoY to INR15.9bn, contributing 52.6% in
product mix (+575bp YoY). Capital market rally and better performance of funds
aided to the growth.
Distribution: Company added 32k agents in Q1FY24, total agents count grew to
222k. Company has made structural changes in agency network, result of which
will be visible over next three quarters of the year. Agency contribution to
individual APE mix declined 255bp YoY to 26.6%. Bancassurance led with 68.6%
(+197bp YoY) in individual APE distribution mix.
EoM & commission regulations: Company indicated that they were very
comfortably placed in terms of the percentage of expenses prescribed by
regulator. Company is in process of revaluating and framing policy around the
same.
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Shriram Finance
NIM – No pressure on yield, CoF has peaked
CoF rose 7bp QoQ to 8.89%. Marginal CoF is 8.6%. Management does not expect
CoF to rise from here.
The loss on yield on new vehicles could not be offset by a higher proportion of
gold/personal loans because the base of these loans remains small. Around 10%
of CVs + passenger vehicle loans are for pre-owned vehicles.
With increase in cost of funds and decline in yields, margin declined from 8.55%
in Q4FY23 to 8.32% in Q1FY24.
Demand from cab aggregators has also picked up. They have not replaced their
vehicles for three years, which is why the demand from this segment has now
doubled.
Growth in MSME is strong. NBFCs are not competing with banks for share of
MSME. They are competing with unorganized lenders. Shift from unorganized
channels to NBFCs is the key driver of MSME growth for SFC and other NBFCs.
In Q1FY24, 250 more branches of erstwhile STFC started offering gold loans. In
total ~500 branches of STFC now offer gold loans and the plan is to roll out gold
loans in every erstwhile STFC branch. Every branch that starts offering gold loans
needs to hire 3-4 employees. The main cost of adding gold loan as a product in a
branch is employee cost.
Like for gold, even for personal loans growth has been driven by more erstwhile
STFC branches offering the product. To ensure proper checks, the pre-approved
limit of a personal loan is capped at INR50,000. If a higher amount needs to be
lent, more checks are done. Also, DSAs of personal loans are paid commissions
for the number of loans not for the value.
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SFL has collaborated with fintechs for sourcing of loans and presently, ~5% of the
AUM is sourced through them. Fintech sourcing would be for the young, tech-
savvy customers, however, branch network is likely to remain the key driver of
AUM growth.
Going forward, management is aiming to shift the portfolio mix towards higher
yielding products like gold loans, MSME and personal loans. The mix of these
products as of Q1FY24 is ~20% of the total AUM
PayTM will not share credit risk. The merchant is not exclusive to SFL and could
have borrowed from other lenders. To ensure proper risk assessment SFL is
building a credit rule engine which is easy to set up using API.
SFL is also in talks with Airtel Payments Bank for a similar tie-up
Liquidity
SFL has excess liquidity buffer of INR161.7bn, which is equivalent to three
months liquidity requirement (~INR 157.9bn).
LCR for the quarter 202.8% versus 209% in Q4FY23. The management stated that
as per SFL’s policy, it would always carry a liquidity buffer for at least three
months and desires to maintain the LCR between 150-200%.
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Asset quality
PCR on personal loans is ~47% and it likely to be increased to 50% in the next few
quarters.
During the quarter, SFL utilized Covid provisions of INR 990M. Outstanding covid
provisions stood at INR10.08bn as of Q1FY24.
On ECL provisions, stage 1 past due was 8.0% (8.04% in Q4FY23), stage 2 past
due was 18.88% (18.00% in Q4FY23) and LGD at 42.32% (42.27% in Q4FY23).
The capital position is strong and the management believes that there is no stress
on the capital requirement
Guidance
Management reiterated the AUM growth guidance of 15% for FY24E, though the
full year guidance would be clearly stated by end of 2QFY24 after evaluating the
state of rural economy and the impact of monsoon.
Other highlights
Debt to equity ratio decreased marginally to 3.60x from 3.65x on account of
utilization of excess liquidity.
ALM buckets continue to remain positive and the surplus in the 1-year bucket is
INR268.6bn as of Q1FY24.
During the quarter, S&P upgraded the international rating of SFL from BB minus
to BB.
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Xpress credit loans constitute ~ 10% of the total loan book and these loans are
provided to the corporate salary account holders only. Of the total, ~94-95%
constitute salary accounts of armed forces and government employees and ~4-
5% pertains to employees employed with large corporates.
Xpress credit book continues to perform well in terms of asset quality. Most of
the GNPA is attributable to delays in payment of salary on the part of some state
governments and from deceased borrowers.
Management has gone slow in the overseas book in the light of global economic
challenges.
Of the total loan book, ~74% is linked to floating rates and the balance 26% is
fixed rate.
The system credit growth is expected to be ~14-15% for FY24E and management
expects similar growth rate for SBIN.
Asset Quality
Gross NPA ratio stood at 2.76% as of Q1FY24 – which is the lowest in last ten
years.
In Q1FY24, rural NPA were at 11.28%, management guided that they plan to
bring this ratio down to single digit by the end of FY24.
Of the total slippage of INR 76.6bn in Q1FY24, SBI has already reversed INR7bn
in retail, INR3bn in agriculture, INR6bn in SME totalling to INR16bn in Jul-23 /
Q2FY24
Deposits
Management expects deposits to grow at 12-14% in FY24, in line with the
expected industry growth.
SBI has term deposit repayment of INR1.2tn-INR1.4tn per month against a total
outstanding deposit base of INR43tn and the average maturity of TDs is over a
year.
SBIN has tweaked its strategy to focus on CA accounts from trade, commerce
and industries and it believes that the strategy will help arrest the fall in CA.
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CI ratio
The unadjusted cost to income ratio stood at ~50% while core cost to income
ratio stands at 54% in Q1FY24. Around 40% of employees are on defined
benefit. CI ratio can improved through better productivity and higher income as
employee base and cost are sticky.
Other highlights
SBIN is well capitalized with CET-1 ratio improving from 9.72% in Q1FY23 to
10.19% in Q1FY24. With the current capital level, SBIN can support a loan book
of INR7tn against current loan book of INR33tn.
During the quarter, ~63% of the SA accounts and ~35% of the retail accounts
were sourced through YONO.
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The loss on yield on new vehicles could not be offset by a higher proportion of
gold/personal loans because the base of these loans remains small. Around 10%
of CVs + passenger vehicle loans are for pre-owned vehicles.
With increase in cost of funds and decline in yields, margin declined from 8.55%
in Q4FY23 to 8.32% in Q1FY24.
Demand from cab aggregators has also picked up. They have not replaced their
vehicles for three years, which is why the demand from this segment has now
doubled.
Growth in MSME is strong. NBFCs are not competing with banks for share of
MSME. They are competing with unorganized lenders. Shift from unorganized
channels to NBFCs is the key driver of MSME growth for SFC and other NBFCs.
In Q1FY24, 250 more branches of erstwhile STFC started offering gold loans. In
total ~500 branches of STFC now offer gold loans and the plan is to roll out gold
loans in every erstwhile STFC branch. Every branch that starts offering gold loans
needs to hire 3-4 employees. The main cost of adding gold loan as a product in a
branch is employee cost.
Like for gold, even for personal loans growth has been driven by more erstwhile
STFC branches offering the product. To ensure proper checks, the pre-approved
limit of a personal loan is capped at INR50,000. If a higher amount needs to be
lent, more checks are done. Also, DSAs of personal loans are paid commissions
for the number of loans not for the value.
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SFL has collaborated with fintechs for sourcing of loans and presently, ~5% of the
AUM is sourced through them. Fintech sourcing would be for the young, tech-
savvy customers, however, branch network is likely to remain the key driver of
AUM growth.
Going forward, management is aiming to shift the portfolio mix towards higher
yielding products like gold loans, MSME and personal loans. The mix of these
products as of Q1FY24 is ~20% of the total AUM
PayTM will not share credit risk. The merchant is not exclusive to SFL and could
have borrowed from other lenders. To ensure proper risk assessment SFL is
building a credit rule engine which is easy to set up using API.
SFL is also in talks with Airtel Payments Bank for a similar tie-up
Liquidity
SFL has excess liquidity buffer of INR161.7bn, which is equivalent to three
months liquidity requirement (~INR 157.9bn).
LCR for the quarter 202.8% versus 209% in Q4FY23. The management stated that
as per SFL’s policy, it would always carry a liquidity buffer for at least three
months and desires to maintain the LCR between 150-200%.
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Asset quality
PCR on personal loans is ~47% and it likely to be increased to 50% in the next few
quarters.
During the quarter, SFL utilized Covid provisions of INR 990M. Outstanding covid
provisions stood at INR10.08bn as of Q1FY24.
On ECL provisions, stage 1 past due was 8.0% (8.04% in Q4FY23), stage 2 past
due was 18.88% (18.00% in Q4FY23) and LGD at 42.32% (42.27% in Q4FY23).
The capital position is strong and the management believes that there is no stress
on the capital requirement
Guidance
Management reiterated the AUM growth guidance of 15% for FY24E, though the
full year guidance would be clearly stated by end of 2QFY24 after evaluating the
state of rural economy and the impact of monsoon.
Other highlights
Debt to equity ratio decreased marginally to 3.60x from 3.65x on account of
utilization of excess liquidity.
ALM buckets continue to remain positive and the surplus in the 1-year bucket is
INR268.6bn as of Q1FY24.
During the quarter, S&P upgraded the international rating of SFL from BB minus
to BB.
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Bearing
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IIP growth in 2023 due to healthy run of the capital goods sector.
Business highlights
Expansion of Savli Plant and investments for Hosur Greenfield Plant continue
Entering second half of 2023 cautiously on the back of sluggish global demand
outlook
Target: Company is targeting to procure renewable power for their all factories.
Strong performance for the quarter across all domestic businesses and Exports
performance moderated owing to global demand conditions
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Cement
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Grasim Industries
Paints segment
Grasim is on track to commission at least two plants (out of the six planned plants)
and commence operations in this segment by Q4FY24. Capex guidance of INR100bn
stays intact. The total outlay for the paints biz till end-Q1FY24 stood at INR36.4bn.
Birla Pivot, the full-scale B2B E-commerce platform for building materials, has been
launched in Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh, and Delhi. The platform will ensure on-
time delivery and superior quality products such as Cement, Steel, Tiles, Plywood &
Doors, Paints & Ply, Sanitary & Plumbing, among others. The team has successfully
on-boarded more than 120 brands across various categories.
Capex update
Q1FY24 total capex stood at INR13.8bn, of which INR10.5bn was spent for Paints biz.
FY24 budgeted capex stands at INR57.9bn – INR43.4bn for paints/B2B e-commerce.
Total capex for FY23 was INR43bn ~INR20bn in paints, INR9.5bn in viscose biz,
INR12.1bn in chemicals biz and the balance in other businesses.
Other highlights
EBITDA for textiles stood at INR430mn vs. INR230mn in Q4FY23 and INR970mn in
Q1FY23. Linen profitability was impacted by slower demand and high flax fibre rates.
EBITDA for insulators biz stood at INR130mn versus EBITDA of INR140mn in Q4FY23.
Net debt for the standalone balance sheet stood at INR35.2bn (INR17.8bn at end-
FY23; INR4.85bn as on 31 December 2022).
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Shree Cement
Demand
Demand outlook continues to stay firm for FY24 – in the run-up to general elections.
Industry volumes should grow in double digits in FY24.
Prices
Capex
Both Pali and Kodla units should have 40-50 MW WHRS capacities.
The lead distance reduced to 449 kms from 463 kms in Q4FY23.
Premium products mix contributed to ~9% of trade sales. The aim is to reach 15% by
FY25.
The company is diversifying into RMC business starting with a plan to set up five
ready mix units by the end of FY24.
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UltraTech Cement
Demand
Cement demand stood strong across regions driving 20% YoY volume growth for
UTCL.
Demand outlook continues to stay firm for FY24 – in the run up to general elections.
The industry volumes should grow more than 10% in FY24.
Trade mix was 68% while share of blended cement stood at 70%.
The clinker conversion ratio stood at 1.44x which is the highest achieved by the company
so far.
Premium products mix contributed to 21.7% of trade sales (up 26% YoY).
Pet coke made up for 42% of the fuel mix versus 52% in the previous quarter. Imported
Coal was 46%, domestic coal was 7% and 5% was alternate fuel.
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Defence
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Bharat Electronics
Questions and answers
Q. Order inflows guidance for FY24.
A. We hold by the INR200bn+ order inflows guidance for FY24.
Q. Content BEL does in LUH, LCH to HAL (share in overall value). 4-5 large orders in
pipeline.
A. In discussion with HAL on this but can’t give you value unless we move ahead as
it’s premature. Fuses, EW for ships INR10bn+, INR60bn+, equipment for OPV and
other vessels GRSE, L&T, GSL etc. INR81bn we already got in Q1. Small spare orders
etc. orders will keep on coming.
Q. QRSAM/LRSAM progress.
A. QRSAM – trial reports are submitted to armed forces. We have given some rough
order pricing as well on which they are working. They would now be working on
proposal etc. which will go through by FY25. Value of order will depend on number
of regiments we get. MRSAM – initial discussions are there. QRSAM progress is much
ahead than MRSAM.
Q. Receivables and cash position.
A. INR70bn receivables on BS and cash level is also reasonably good. No budgetary
constraints.
Q. Non-defence segment. Exports.
A. Metro – we already delivered one system. CBTC, super SCADA etc. will come in a
phased manner. Significant business incoming will take 1-2 years. Working on civil
aviation part as well. Working closely with MOD to raise exports as government is
quite aggressive on this. We are targeting USD $90mn exports in FY24, roughly 2x of
what we did in FY23. We are scaling up software service segment as well.
Q. Revenue guidance for FY24. Materialising of MoUs.
A. Right on track for 17% revenues growth for FY24 which is INR200bn+ as far as
execution is concerned. It takes time to materialise MoUs into revenue generation
but we are working on it and will be visible in next couple years.
Q. Defence vs non-defence (EVMs/VVPATs etc.). Capex for FY24.
A. INR8-9bn revenues from EVMs expected in FY24. For FY24, 80-85% and 15-20%
non-defence. INR7-8bn capex (maintenance as well as growth) estimated for current
year.
Q. Employee costs. Provisions write back.
A. Extra contract labour, DA etc. led to increase (nothing very off). Not much
provisions write back as of now. Further creation of provisions can be there. Interest
income has increased in other income line item.
Q. Execution over next few years given capacity expansion ongoing. Order
pipeline.
A. Nelamuru - new building coming. Nagpur, Ibrahimpatnam facilities coming up for
fuses. Hyderabad facility for micro components etc. 15-17% revenue growth
guidance over next two years. With normal run-rate of fresh orders we will be
around the same range but with any large ticket order can reach to INR700-800bn
by let’s say FY26.
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Q. Order pipeline.
A. P-75 I programme, QRSAM, submarines, other ship building programs, spares and
maintenance etc. makes a good pipeline.
Q. Exports in Q1FY24. IACC, Akash execution timeframe. Drone project with DRDO.
A. INR870mn exports in Q1FY24. We are right on track on execution of IACC which
is approx. INR80bn value (INR20bn is left and will be executed over coming period
of time). Akash System is worth approx. INR53bn. We are developmental partner
along with HAL, can’t comment on this as of now. These will be medium as well as
long altitude high range drones.
Q. Margin guidance for FY24. Indigenisation.
A. Roughly 40% GMs and 21-23% EBITDA margin for FY24 guidance. Indigenisation
is linked more to R&D expenditure (continue to be at 6-7% of revenues).
Q. Fuses order.
A. INR2bn+ total capex for Nagpur facility for manufacturing of fuses. Can expect
order in next six months (fuse order from MOD).
Q. Exports. Triton EV order.
A. TR modules to Philippines, electronics to Israel, Airbus to Japan. Other countries
include Maldives, Nigeria, Brazil, America etc. which we supply/in talks with. Have
supplied one set of battery to Triton, and waiting for them to comeback. We haven’t
factored any of its execution from the current order book in our guidance.
Q. Uttam Radar. Non-defence (as a % of OB).
A. Two players are there – one private and then us. Non-defence is 6% of order book,
execution is 12-24 months.
Q. Order book breakdown.
A. Defence is 90%. Non-defence is 6%. EW segment is INR150bn out of INR650bn
OB.
Q. Nomination vs competitive ordering mix. Products vs services mix.
A. Nomination based order book is 95%. Products is 90% and services is 10%.
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Construction
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Ahluwalia Contracts
Guidance for FY24
1. Order inflow: INR25bn (over and above the INR44bn orders already won and
INR28.4bn project where the company is L1).
4. Capex: INR1bn
The company has a bid pipeline of INR25bn and is looking for orders from the
hospital, institutional, industrial and private residential segments to shore up its
order book.
The share of infrastructure segment in the order book has grown significantly during
the quarter and now makes up ~32% of the order book (~10% at end-FY23).
Public sector projects make up ~76% of ACIL’s order book (45% from the central
government and balance from state government); the balance comes from the
private sector. Most private sector orders pertain to commercial realty and
institutional segments, wherein payments have not been a major issue.
The Western region makes up ~38% of the company’s order book; North India
accounts for one-third. Share of Eastern region reduced QoQ to 25% from 38% in
Q4FY24.
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Ashoka Buildcon
Highlights
FY24 guidance
8. Capex: INR1bn
Order book visibility: ABL ended the quarter with an order book of ~INR169bn
(book-to-bill of 2.6x). It won orders worth ~INR22.8bn in the power sector in
Q1FY24. The execution period of this project is 24 months and the company will
earn ~10% EBITDA margins.
Muted ordering by NHAI and intense competition compelled ABL to reduce its
order win target of new projects in FY24 to INR50-70bn.
ABL has identified a bid pipeline of INR250bn worth of highway projects and
~INR100bn from the other segments.
Q1FY24 order book (OB) breakdown: Road EPC (34%), road HAM (9%), railways
(8%), power T&D (36%), buildings (13%) and CGD (0.1%).
Margin: EBITDA margin during the quarter declined ~520bp YoY and ~280bp
QoQ to 4.6%. Management indicated that margins were lower as the company
had made a one-time provision of ~INR560mn in the current quarter related to
execution of power project.
It indicated that margins would remain under pressure over the next couple of
quarters post which they should improve as recent contracts are at better rates
(double digit margins).
Adjusted PAT margin during the quarter too declined ~600bp YoY and ~300bp
QoQ to just 1.1%.
Debt on BOT/HAM projects declined QoQ and now stands at ~INR51bn (INR52bn
at end-FY23).
Management expects the debt levels to come down as the asset monetization
process goes through.
Working capital cycle: Net working capital cycle improved QoQ to 134 days (140
days at end-FY23).
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ABL has reinitiated the divestment process of these five assets and is hopeful of
closing the deal by end-FY24. The company is confident of closing the deal at a
higher valuation than the previous one.
Apart from this, the company is also looking to monetize its 11 HAM assets and
is actively looking for buyers. ABL prefers a direct sale of these assets rather than
an InVIT and is targeting to complete the monetization process for seven
completed projects by Dec-23, two other projects by Mar-24 and the remaining
two projects by Dec-24. The management expects to sign the SPA within the next
month. The total equity invested in these 11 HAM projects is ~INR12bn while the
balance equity requirement is INR1.7bn.
Chennai ORR: In Apr-22, the company also entered into a Share purchase
agreement with National Investment and Infrastructure Fund Limited (NIIF) for
sale of 100% equity of Chennai ORR project for aggregate financial consideration
of INR6.9bn. Out if this, INR4.5bn will flow to ABL (~INR2.5bn towards loan
repayment and balance ~INR2bn towards the stake sale). Management expects
to close this deal by Oct-23.
Jaora-Nayagaon: ABL has entered into an agreement with NIIF to sell 74% of its
economic interest in JTCL; the balance 26% stake in the project is held by
Macquarie group (refer to: Jaora Nayagaon stake sale brings cheer). The project
has a debt of ~INR1.5bn. The equity value for the entire 100% stake is INR6.9bn,
which translates to ~INR5.1bn equity value for the company for its 74% stake.
Adjusting for the ~INR1.8bn loan given by JTCL to the company/ACL, the net cash
inflow for the company will stand at ~INR3.3bn. The equity invested in the project
is ~INR2.9bn. The company expects the transaction to be completed by Dec-23.
CGD business: In Mar-23, Ashoka Buildcon and its JV partner Morgan Stanley
entered into a share purchase agreement to sell their 100% stake in UEPL (which
owns the CGD business of the group) to MGL for a total consideration of
INR5.3bn. The total equity invested in this business by the two partners was
~INR1.4bn (in addition to debt of ~INR1.8bn), which translates to a healthy P/BV
of ~3.8x. ABL owns 51% stake in the JV and has invested INR670mn to date.
(Refer to: CGD divestment to add value). This transaction is also expected to get
completed by Oct-23.
All the above road asset monetization proceeds will be first utilized towards
providing an exit to SBI-M and the balance cash flows will be used to pare off
debt. The company has charged INR240mn in the finance cost of the
consolidated financial statements as payable to SBI-M. They had already
provided INR720mn in Q4FY23 for the same purpose. Thus the total outstanding
payable to them is ~INR13bn. The company will have to keep on providing
~INR240mn each quarter until a full exit has been given to the investor.
Toll collection: The toll revenues increased 10% YoY and 2% QoQ during the
current quarter.
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Capacit’e Infraprojects
BDD Chawls (MHADA) project: Till date, 14 buildings (out of 33) have been
handed over to the company. The remaining buildings would be handed over in
FY24. Total billing was INR280mn in Q1FY24 and management expects INR400-
450mn execution per quarter from Q3FY24 onwards (company’s share).
CIDCO project: Work on six sites has already commenced and the seventh site
has been handed over to the company. Environmental clearances have also
been received. The company clocked revenue of INR1bn in Q1FY24 in this
project and it expects INR600mn monthly revenues from the project starting
Q3FY24 onwards.
Bank guarantees: Capacit’e is in talks with lenders for increasing in its banking
limits – fund based and non-fund based limits. It has already received sanctions
for non-fund based limits of ~INR1.5bn from SBI and another INR3bn is expected
to be sanctioned from other banks shortly.
Retention money: With the sanctions received from the bank, the company
expects to realize ~INR500mn in H1FY24 and ~INR400mn in H2FY24 (out of the
total outstanding of INR1.7bn). Management also expects to realize INR500-
600mn from the old outstanding debtors in FY24.
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G R Infraprojects
Key highlights
Guidance for FY24
Order book visibility: GRIL ended the quarter with an order book of ~INR196bn
(book-to-bill of 2.5x). It is also L1 in three projects totalling ~INR73bn, taking its
order book to INR268bn with a book to bill of 3.4x.
Of the three L1 projects, two are ropeway projects while the third one is an
NHPC civil construction project.
Orders intake: The company won INR18.2bn new HAM orders from NHAI
during the quarter. For FY24, the company is targeting INR200bn order
intake and is hopeful of winning some EPC projects.
Revenues: Q1FY24 revenues at INR21.5bn were down 13% YoY but up 8% QoQ.
Margin: EBITDA margin during the quarter plunged ~500bp YoY but rose ~10bp
QoQ to 14.6%.
Working capital cycle: Net working capital cycle (adjusted for loans given to
subsidiaries) improved to 107 days (118 days at end-FY23).
Asset monetisation: The company has formed an InViT to monetise its HAM
projects; it expects this to bring down its cost of capital. This will be a public
listed InViT. The company will initially transfer seven completed HAM projects
with a debt of INR38bn to the InViT.
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The InVIT has got final observations from SEBI and approval for change of
ownership of only one project is pending from NHAI. Management expects to
launch the issue by Sep-23.
Bids submitted: The company has already submitted bids for INR120bn projects
of which INR107bn were for roads and balance for other segments. Of these,
bids for projects worth INR76bn were yet to opened, as at June-23 end.
Bid pipeline: GRIL has identified a bid pipeline of INR900bn of which INR750bn
is for roads sector (~INR200-250bn for EPC projects and balance for HAM) and
the remaining in other sectors.
Credit rating: CARE Ratings has upgraded the credit rating of the company from
CARE AA; Stable to CARE AA+; Stable during the quarter.
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J Kumar Infraprojects
Guidance for FY24
Order intake: INR80bn
Capex: ~INR2.5bn
Management indicated they will target metro rail tenders to shore up the order
book. It is also looking at orders in the High Speed Rail segment, sewage and bridges
and flyovers segment.
Till date, it has already bid for projects worth INR37bn, for which bids are yet to
open. These include two NHAI projects worth INR15bn, Kanpur Metro project of
INR10bn and a Delhi PWD project of INR5bn.
J Kumar has a bid pipeline of INR250bn going ahead. The segment wise split is:
INR60-70bn in flyovers and bridges, INR30bn in building works, INR60bn in metro
segments, INR90bn in roads and INR20bn in the water division.
Share of metro rail projects declined QoQ to ~40% of the company’s order book
(~53% as at end-FY23). On the other hand, the share of flyovers has increased (37%
now compared to 18% as at end-FY23).
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Working capital cycle on the other hand improved to 124 days in Q1FY24 (128 days
in Q4FY23).
Other highlights
Chennai Elevated Corridor: The company won four packages from NHAI in this
project (worth INR35.7bn) of which JKIL’s share is ~INR34bn. JKIL will execute the
entire contract whereas the JV partner will provide technical guidance.
Mumbai Metro Line-3 is 88% complete and will be fully completed by end-FY24.
The first phase from SEEPZ to BKC is likely to commence operations by the end
of the fiscal year.
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KNR Constructions
Revenue breakdown: During Q1FY24, irrigation projects contributed ~INR2bn
to revenues (INR9.2bn in FY23).
HAM project portfolio: KNR has an overall portfolio of five HAM projects: four
from NHAI and one from K-SHIP (Karnataka). Only one of these HAM projects –
Oddanchatram-Madathukulam has achieved PCOD till date.
For the three new HAM projects awaiting appointed date, total equity
requirement is INR2.3bn of which 50% is expected to be invested in FY25 and
25% each in FY26 and FY27.
Credit rating: CRISIL has upgraded the long-term rating of the company from
CRISIL AA-/Positive to CRISIL AA/Stable and has reaffirmed the short term rating
as CRISIL A1+.
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NBCC
13. Seed money: The company has invested INR9.2bn as seed money on various
projects. Accrued interest as on Jun-23 stands at INR2.8bn.
14. Amrapali Project: The company had received an order worth INR83bn in this
project of which it has already booked INR50bn revenues till date and expect
revenue contribution of INR20bn in FY24. It plans to complete this project
during the current year.
The management also expects to get additional business in this project worth
INR80-90bn by Sep-23, which would be executed over a period of three years.
15. WTC project: The company has cumulatively sold ~INR65bn of inventory in this
project. It has an unsold inventory of ~INR50bn and expects to monetize
~INR40bn in FY24.
16. Sarojini Nagar: NBCC has initiated the process for bulk sale of this project during
the quarter. It expects the project to get fully sold in FY24 for INR13.5bn.
17. Real Estate sales: NBCC sold INR0.2bn worth of inventory in Q1FY24. The major
ongoing projects are in Bhubaneshwar, Lucknow (commercial) and Kolkata with
a total sales value of ~INR11bn. The company expects to sell this inventory
completely in FY24.
18. Further, they have already awarded tender for construction in Patna and will
soon float tenders for development in Jaipur and Coimbatore. Going forward,
the company is targeting more redevelopment projects and is looking at
geographies like Mumbai and Kerala.
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Capex: INR2.8bn
2. Order book: Order inflows during the quarter were ~INR81.5bn. NCC ended the
quarter with an order book of ~INR541bn (book-to-bill of 3.4x) – it’s highest
ever.
Given its segmental diversification, NCC would, in our view, sustain its strong run in
order inflows (refer to NCC - Firing on all cylinders).
3. Q1FY24 order book breakdown: Buildings (50%), roads (11%), water and
environment and railways (15%), electric (15%), irrigation (1%), mining (9%) and
others.
4. Margin improve YoY in Q1FY24: EBITDA margin during the quarter improved by
~40bp YoY to 9.9% (10.6% in Q4FY23). PAT margins too, rose ~20bp YoY to 4.2%
in Q1FY24.
8. NCC Urban Vizag deal: During Q4FY22, the company had sold its entire stake in
its subsidiary NCC Vizag Urban Infrastructure. The equity invested by NCC in this
subsidiary was INR0.5bn. It will receive ~INR2bn from this sale; it has already
received INR475mn as at Mar-22 end. However, the subsequent tranches have
not been received thereafter. The total outstanding receivables from this deal is
~INR5bn of which the company expects to receive ~INR1.5bn in FY24 The
company will get interest on the delayed payment.
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PNC Infatech
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Order book split: Road projects constitute 58% of order-book with the balane
coming from water/canal projects.
Water supply projects: The company’s share of work in the various projects that
it has received under the ‘Jal Jeevan Mission’ (JJM) project in Uttar Pradesh is
~4800 villages.
The company had booked INR10.4bn revenues on the project till end-FY23;
execution during Q1FY24 stood at INR4.2bn. ~INR50bn of works are still pending
to be executed and the management expects to execute ~INR20bn in FY24 and
the balance in FY25.
Our view on water projects: Over the past couple of years, the government has
made its intention clear about targeting the water supply segment in a big way.
It has already launched the Jal Jeevan Mission, envisioned to provide safe and
adequate drinking water through individual household tap connections by 2024
to all households in rural India.
In the budget, outlay for water supply has risen 29% YoY to INR772bn; within
this, the outlay for JJM component has increased by 27% YoY.
PNC management indicated that it will bid for phase-4 of JJM project in Uttar
Pradesh going ahead and expects to win INR10bn of new orders from this
segment in FY24. We believe PNC can be a significant beneficiary of the uptick
in awarding in the water segment.
Margins: EBITDA margin stood at 13.2% (down ~150bp YoY and ~10bp QoQ),
while PAT margin at 8.4% were down 110bp YoY/30bp QoQ.
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Titagarh Wagons
Other highlights
Indian Railways order: Titagarh had won the single-largest order ever for the
company from the IR for 24,177 wagons for a contract price of ~INR78bn. The
delivery time for this order is 39 months. This contract is fully covered with both
upward and downward price variation clause; however, there would not be any
free issue of materials, resulting in higher working capital requirements.
Execution on the order has already commenced and the division is working near
its full capacity of 700 wagons per month. The company is also working to
increase its manufacturing capacity to 1,000 wagons per month and targets to
achieve this in the current fiscal itself.
Total wagon production in FY23 stood at ~5,500 wagons and the companies
wishes to increase this to an average of 3,000 wagons per quarter by end-FY24.
Vande Bharat order: Titagarh in a JV with BHEL has emerged as the L2 bidder in
the first tender to supply 200 Vande Bharat trains. The TWL-BHEL JV will
manufacture 80 trains of 16 coaches each at a price of INR1.2bn per train. TWL
will have a shareholding of 51% in the JV.
Apart from this, the JV would have an AMC contract of 35 years with a total
contract value of ~INR135bn.
The first prototype is expected to be delivered by Mar–Apr 2025 with full-scale
production expected to begin from Oct-25. 12 trains are to be delivered in the
first year, 18 in the second and 25 trains each during the next two years.
Forged wheel sets: The TWL–R K Forgings JV had won a contract for supplying
15,40,000 forged wheels to IR by quoting a price of ~INR126bn. The JV will be a
50-50 partnership.
While IR has assured a committed offtake of 80,000 wheels, the JV plans to
create a factory with annual capacity of 200,000 wheels. The balance will either
be sold to third parties or exported and used for captive consumption by TWL.
The overall capex for the factory would be INR9.5–10bn; of this, INR3.5–4bn
would be equity (TWL’s share will be 50% of this or ~INR1.8bn) and raise debt at
the SPV level for the balance. The company expects to set up the production unit
over the next 18–24 months and start delivering by FY26.
CRRC contract: The company has also received an order to manufacture 204
coaches for Bangalore Metro on a “Job Contract basis” from the CRRC.
Capacity expansion and capex: On the wagon front, Titagarh is looking to
increase its annual wagon building capacity from existing 8,400 to 12,000 at
capex of INR1.25bn.
On the passenger rolling stock side, the company currently has capacity to
produce 250 passenger rolling stock coaches per year at its Uttarpara (West
Bengal) plant. It is expanding annual production capacity to 850 coaches at a cost
of INR2.5bn. This capacity would be fungible and could be used to produce
metro/mono rail as well as Vande Bharat coaches.
Order book: The order book of the company stood at INR279bn at end-Q1FY24.
Wagon execution: The company has ramped up its execution during the year
and delivered 5,498 wagons in FY23 (3,274 wagons in FY22).
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ABB
Opening remarks
Theme for the quarter is F&B: India’s food processing industry is expected to
reach $535bn by FY25 from $290bn in FY22. Fastest growing segments are
packaged goods, dairy, meat & marine. ABB’s offerings include drives, motors,
automation & instrumentation, robots, MV & LV switchgears, digital power train.
Focus areas: Warehouse & logistics, datacentres, railways & metro, renewables,
electronics and automotive. Enhance areas: Pharma & healthcare, water &
wastewater, food & beverage, textiles, pulp & paper, marine & ports, rubber &
plastics. Sustain areas: Oil, gas & chemicals, buildings & infra, power distribution,
cement, metals & mining.
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AIA Engineering
Quarterly performance
EBITDA margin improved from 24.8% in Q4FY23 to 27.7% in Q1FY24 due to
improved product mix (higher large castings) and lag effect of pass on of lower
freight and raw material cost. As per management, it should normalize to 22-24%
margin on full year basis.
AIA has been able to use 22% of power requirement from captive power plant
with a total generation of 38MW
Guidance
Management guides 30kt additional volume in FY24 (in Q1FY24, it was up 6.1kt
YoY) and sustainable EBITDA margins of 22-24% (Q1FY24:27.7%). Average
blended realization should be ~5% lower than Q1FY24 average of ~165k/t. Focus
remains on mining sector.
Management has guided a capex of INR5.1bn spread across FY24 and FY25. Out
of this INR2bn is towards the re-organisation of warehouses and plants,
automation, extra lines and debottlenecking (adding 20kt non-grinding media by
Dec’2023) etc.
Others
AIA has a net cash of INR27.5bn (INR25.6bn at FY23-end) as on June23 with an
average yield of 7%
Working capital days reduced to 100 days compared to 118 days historically due
to reduction in the inventory which inturn is due to easing of supply chain.
The sunset review on import tax of 11.8% in Brazil is being reviewed (duty was
applied for 5 years). The outcome of the process is expected to conclude by
March’24. AIA exports 8k-10k grinding media to Brazil.
North America, Austria, Latin America and CIS are the key and critical export
markets and company is trying to increase its penetration with more customer
on boarding.
AIA remains bullish on copper and gold volume growth. Company’s primary focus
is on conversion of mines to use more of high chrome grinding media as
compared to forged media
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Cummins India
Opening remarks
CPCB-IV norms’ products launched in power gen segment. Will continue to
deliver superior performance.
CIL reported record revenue for the quarter driven by strong domestic demand.
Export revenues level similar to previous quarter.
Domestic: Power gen INR8.73bn, 76% increase YoY and 30% increase QoQ.
Distribution INR5.34bn, 28% increase YoY and 11% increase QoQ. Industrial
(domestic) INR2.36bn, flat YoY and 9% increase QoQ. Exports – HHP INR2.44bn
5% increase YoY and 18% increase QoQ. LHP: INR2.01bn, flat YoY and 17%
decrease QoQ.
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CG Power
Opening remarks
Overall, it was a very good quarter. PBT of the company came as highest ever of
Q1 in recent times. Order backlog stands at INR49bn.
Margins were higher YoY on account of volume growth, softening input costs, a
favourable product mix and procurement efficiencies.
CG Power subsequent to the quarter ended June 30, 2023 has concluded sale of
QEI LLC, USA for a total consideration of USD10.5mn free of cash/ debt.
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GE T&D
Opening remarks
Q1FY24 order inflows at INR10.1bn versus INR6bn in Q1FY23, up by 68% on a
YoY basis. Order backlog increased to INR39.4bn.
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Hitachi Energy
Opening remarks
India’s GDP expected to grow at 6.5% (as per RBI) for FY23-24. Manufacturing
PMI hit a 31-month high in May’23.
Fresh order wins in Q1FY24 was ~INR 11.4bn. Key order wins include: a) Over 200
traction transformers by BLW, CLW, b) Utilities and new industries lead orders
for various ratings of GIS and dry-type transformers, c) Power transformer orders
for data center and other EPCs, d) Traditional power and renewable integration
utilities continue driving orders for AIS substations.
Sequentially topline was down mainly due to chips & electronics shortage.
Export contribute >30% of total orders in Q1FY24. Orders are of 400kV GIS order
from power utility in Singapore, 400kV GIS order from agri-tech manufacturer in
Greece etc.
Export will be 25% of our topline and expected to follow the same trend going
forward.
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Kalpataru Projects
Consolidated Revenue growth 15% YoY led by improved execution and healthy
order book in flagship businesses
Higher debt in 1QFY24 is to meet working capital (2.7% of sales and higher
depreciation on back of higher capex last year.
Expect net debt to start declining from Q2 FY24 onwards given recovery of
milestone linked collections and closure of projects
KPIL has entered in to Latina America and Europe geography for T&D business.
Secured orders of INR 73.8bn YTD FY24 (Q1 FY24: INR51.2bn and Q2 FY24 till
date: INR 22.6bn) ; Additional L1 Position of around INR40bn+
Guidance in FY24 : Revenue 30% growth , OI ~INR260bn and PBT margin ~4-5%
and EBITDA margins ~8-8.5%
In Ling mota subsidiary – Growth will be ~10-15% next 2 years with a PBT margin
of ~4.5-5%.
In 1QFY24 there is a reduction in value of the projects and some of projects got
cancelled due to environment clearance didn’t get in Fasttel (Brazil Subsidiary)
Fund provide by standalone for road projects is ~ INR 400mn in1QFY24 used for
debt repayment and ~INR 700mn for FY24 will be used to repay the debt.
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KEC International
Revival of SAE business and deliver the positive PBT in Q1FY24
Afghanistan - Total collections received in the last two quarters stand at over
INR2.60bn. Balance amount should be receive by end of FY24.
Q1FY24 robust growth across business segments. Delivering a consistent growth
in Revenues on the back of better execution in T&D and civil business. Healthy
growth in T&D and civil business.
Largest contributor in order inflow growth (30%) from India T&D , civil and
railways business segment.
Working on 1 Solar projects in Karnataka ~600 MW. Company will bid in more
renewable projects.
Legacy project in brazil: Completed Q3FY23. No EPC projects, only supply
projects. EBITDA is positive. Large amount of loan is refinance so expecting a
+PBT by Q3FY24.
Revenue guidance for FY24 is ~INR 200bn and OI ~ INR 250bn in FY24.
Revenue mix from export business is ~37% in Q1FY24. (100% T&D).
Borrowing has come down in Q1FY24 by INR 3.5bn vs Q1FY23.
PAT decline in SA led by project mix and in Q1FY23 large profitable projects were
executed. Couple of legacy project settle in Q1FY24 led to impact profitability.
Segment wise
T&D
Civil
Railways
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Conditions for a continued capex cycle remain favourable with sectors such as
Infra, power (including renewables), petrochemicals and defence driving strong
growth.
LTI-Mindtree has entered Nifty 50 index starting 13th Jul’23. Financial Services
reached > 80% of retaliation of its book, three years in advance of its Lakshaya
2026 target.
17% NWC has improved 360bps on YoY basis. 12.8% RoE on trailing 12M basis
(130bps improvement TTM and 60bps from Mar’23).
Group order inflows came in at INR655bn, 57% YoY growth. Projects &
manufacturing: INR504bn, 79% YoY growth, which includes mainly infra and
hydrocarbon. International orders within P&M at 35% vs 33% in Q1FY23. Share
of private orders within domestic P&M is 24% vs 32% in Q1FY23.
Order book is at INR4.12tn as of Jun’23. P&M is largely India centric, with 70% of
OB being domestic, while 20% of OB is funded by bilateral / multilateral agencies.
Of Domestic OB of INR2.92tn – central Govt. 12%, state Govt. 29%, PSUs 39% and
private is 20%.
INR17bn orders deleted from order book. Slow moving orders is less than 1% of
the order book.
Group level EBITDA margin was at 10.2% (80bps drop YoY). Drop is due to past
pressure of legacy EPC projects.
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Infra is INR3.01tn of order book. Execution 3 years. Q1FY24 margin is well within
our own internal budget.
Outlook: Higher govt. capex in green energy (incl. RE T&D). Higher investments
in industrialization, O&G and energy transition in overseas markets. Robust order
pipeline and confident of sustaining growth momentum on a sustainable basis.
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Thermax
Opening remarks
We did ‘okay’ in a couple of segments and would have done better in Industrial
Infra segment. We expect the rest of year to do better than what we have done
in Q1.
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Adani Wilmar
Highlights of the quarter
The major losses were in export of non basmati and white rice as there was a ban
in the export of non basmati rice and an increase in duty by 20% in export of
white rice.
Edible oil imports grew 19% YoY in Q1 FY24 (Oil Year has seen imports grow by
22% YoY)
Soft oils imports (soyabean & sunflower oil) was higher due to low prices.
Macro context
Edible oil prices has stabilised, black sea corridor is closed. This ideally should not
be closed.
India imported 22% more oil and has started consuming more.
A 12-15% growth should be India’s growth story and the company expects to be
in line with these number going into the next quarters.
Erratic weather patterns- The company expects sugar, pulses except tur (which
is facing some pressure) and oil to be comfortable if the weather continues to
remain as it is. The main pressure will be on wheat and rice but the only good
thing about Edible oil prices stabilizing is that it has always been expensive and a
bigger basket. So, if edible oil prices remains stable there is not much to worry
about.
If the losses due to raw material price and hedging is not taken in context, the
business EBITDA margin stood at 3600-4000/ton and EBITDA as a percentage of
revenue will depend on inflationary pressure.
Expectation- Foods and FMCG- this quarter 21-22% of growth and since demand
and supply is coming back it should be close to 25-30% volume growth and
revenue growth.
Multiple headwinds like Ukraine-Russia War, Indonesia export ban on Palm etc.
during FY23 continued to impact Q1FY24
Continue decline in Edible Oil prices witnessed (palm, soya and sun).
Kohinoor brand
The new advertisement on Kohinoor has come after 4-5 years. The company felt
they have to come with a new media break.
Kohinoor have been one of the most preferred basmati rice brand.
Whip Kohinoor have 135 odd distributors, large edible oil distributor 1500
distributors of edible oil are distributing Kohinoor.
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Synergizing its edible oil distributors, Kohinoor now is present at 55000 outlets .
The company expects a double digit volume growth for the next 2-3 years from
edible oil and basmati rice portfolio.
Historically Kohinoor have been strong in south and west. West and south will
continue to push Fortune.
Market share
Edible Oil: Continued to maintain market share at 19.5%. Market share ~1.5x of
the next competitor. Potential to consolidate market share, since ~50% share is
held by regional brands.
Rice: Market share declined to 5.9%; Kohinoor had a MS% of 1.3% in MAT Jun-
23.
Increased reach will help in synergize the food and FMCG business and will help
in direct penetration.
D2C
Fortune Online: No of cities -25, with 64,000+ downloads, with 38,600+ orders in
FY23 with AOV of INR1,143. GMV growth now at 15x of Q1FY22.
If the other player had held this position with the edible oil, they would have also
had face the same problems.
Hedge losses- high price raw material and misalignments of hedges. Rest all
parameters have performed the way they should have.
Gross margin absolute loss is INR3bn, which is due to the above reasons.
Hedges dis-alignment: Hedge prices didn’t move in-line with physical prices,
hence loss in inventory was not fully compensated by the gain in hedges.
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Others
Competitive intensity- regional player going faster than national players. Edible
oil have seen regional player, each of the state has a local brand but nationally
no brand emerged. Its not easy for a smaller player because of the pressures.
Nationally for wheat there are only 2 brands ITC and Adani.
With volatile prices local players are not able to cope up and buy wheat
Growth differs between urban and rural - 31% rural and 69% urban for edible oil
Bigger growth in rural market in the coming quarters.
As Q1FY23 volumes were low going forward this type of strong double digit is
expected.
Seeing increase in purchase of 5ltr and 15ltr edible oil packs. Share is increasing
of 5 and 15ltr indicating that price are on comfortable level reflecting consumers
confidence
Consumer have seen prices coming off which may have lead them to increase
their consumption
Interest cost what you look today shall continue for the next quarters.
One of the output of the increased reach is a very high growth in packed edible
oil.
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Asian Paints
Decorative business
There was volume-led growth for the quarter with double-digit volume growth
of 10%; coming on a high base of previous year (37% in Q1FY23) with broad base
growth across regions.
Continued and consistent path of 17.5% volume growth on a four-year
compounded growth rate basis.
Double-digit volume growth across rural & urban markets; Rural growth
improving.
With raw materials having deflated, the company may also look if price
corrections are required going ahead.
Over four years, both rural and urban centres are growing equally well with
similar double-digit CAGRs.
Mix in the quarter led by Economy & Premium range products.
Maintained strong growth in Smartcare Waterproofing, Premium Wood Finishes,
Enamels and Economy emulsions.
Robust expansion of distribution footprint catering to ~0.16mn retail
touchpoints and added 6,000 retail touch points in Q1FY24.
Sustained strong demand for Safe Painting Service (SPS) & Trusted Contractor
Service (TCS) catering to over 650 towns with revenue almost doubling in
Q1FY24.
Robust growth in Projects/Institutional business continued led by factories,
builder and government sector.
APL continued its focus on innovation with NPD’s contribution to about 11% of
the overall revenues.
APL continues to progress well on capacity expansion, backward integration
initiatives.
Margins
The company is seeing GMs at nine-quarter high. GMs were driven by sourcing
and formulation efficiencies and softening raw material prices.
The overall margins are closely governed with how raw material prices pan out.
Innovation
Nilaya Naturals is an innovation and super luxurious product with 90% organic
(earth safe) ingredients.
Some innovation and premium/luxury products that the company has are
Hydolox Extreme Waterproofing, Anti insect paint, Premium PU finish and Luxury
exterior paint.
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Home Decor
Contributed ~4% to decorative business, and is the no. 1 integrated home décor
player.
Collaborations with Sabyasachi, Jaipur Rugs, Sarita Handa for the home décor
business.
The business entered in Wooden Flooring, uPVC Doors/ other new categories.
The combined business of kitchen and bath is about close to INR8.3bn. Kitchen
also has a hardware business, which contributes roughly 40% to the kitchen
business, facing a slowdown due to price changes implemented in the market.
The company would be satisfied with 25% yearly growth in the bath and kitchen
businesses.
Kitchen business
The business de-grew by 12% YoY; Q1FY23 had a high base due to price increases.
Large focus on efficiency, to improve profitability of the business and has now
broken even at the PBDIT level.
Bath business
The business de-grew by 28% YoY led by high base in Q1FY23 due to price
increase.
Expanding geographic footprint and growing traction across the Beautiful Homes
network.
Gaining from increasing retail footprint and synergies with APL network.
International business
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Sri Lanka business has positive trajectory on stabilized economic conditions &
forex availability.
Continued focus on pre lux category and softening raw material prices
supporting PBDIT margins.
Business was hit in Asia, particularly Nepal where it de grew. This had an effect
on Asia business and overall International business. Large part of profitability
comes from Nepal, but since it was impacted, overall profits dipped.
Places such as Bangladesh and Sri Lanka had suffered currency depreciation,
which impacted the performance.
Industrial business
Powder coating and protective coating business has been picking up across the
industry with many players expanding.
Indian economy continues to be the only bright spot in world economy and key
contributor to global growth. High correlation of domestic GDP growth with
paint industry to ensure the company’s grow well, and APL will continue to
aggressively pursue growth.
Monsoons today have been quite good and the company expects rural demand
to be better in H2FY24.
Longer festive season augurs well for the peak season demand.
Focus on scaling up our industrial businesses and further energise Home Décor
categories.
It has taken initiatives such as launching schemes to attract retailers to stock APL
products.
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Other
Overall product mix was led by the economy and premium ranges.
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Henna is not the only launch within ethnic range, more products will be launched
under the ethnic range.
Overall hair oil market witnessed recovery after 8 quarters. Industry grew 7% in
urban markets. Rural markets have been flat this quarter. Markets in Q1 saw
recovery across all hair oil segments.
Rural saw sequential recovery aided by distribution and LUP; but still needs to be
watched up. Q2 and Q3 are expected to see good growth in Rural.
Company will observe what is happening in competition and take pricing actions.
Company may look at taking some price hikes in few products second half of the
year.
NPDs
Company launched 100% Pure Henna Powder with higher Lawsone content than
Leading brands
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Modern trade/Ecommerce
They have a combined salience of 17% with MT having more salience than
Ecommerce. Going ahead, this salience can grow to 20-22% in the long run.
MT is at times higher profit than GT, but sometimes below. Ecommerce is a low
profit compared to MT. Almond drops has a significant presence in Ecommerce.
International business
Middle East & Africa grew by 23% with new partner appointment in Saudi Arabia
and new launches in UAE. Will look if any inorganic growth is required in these
regions.
Rest of World (RoW) grew by 77% with opening of two new geographies. Some
new countries have been added.
LLP prices saw increase in Q1 (roughly 16%). The movement of LLP with Crude,
they do replicate but since LLP is a very small component of crude, it moves more
with regards to demand and supply.
RMO continued to decline in Q1 with good mustard harvest, however glass prices
were up.
Focus will be to improve margins while improving portfolio with more focus on
improving overall EBITDA numbers instead of just looking at percentage
numbers.
Management highlighted that based on crude and RMO prices, company feels
that 18-20% EBITDA margins is achievable.
Ad spends
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Coconut market is close to about INR50bn based on MRP (Net sales INR35bn).
Market has seen a Q1FY24 growth of about 5%.
Company is still a very small player in coconut oil. With the product offering and
the Bajaj brand, company is optimistic of seeing good growth going forward.
Coconut hair oil gives company a double digit EBITDA. Focus has been to get into
MT and ecommerce.
Company has been taking initiatives to do more in Coconut oil - it a large market.
On an overall basis, company has a long term aspiration as it fits well in its
portfolio.
The last six quarters have been encouraging enough for the company to continue
investing in this portfolio.
Others
Bajaj Resource (held by Bajaj family) which owns the trademark gets the royalty.
Bajaj ADHO is more of a brand story rather than ingredient story, while coconut
oil is a commodity and gets sold on price.
Launch of soap was more of range completion, such as offering a basket of Bajaj
premium body and hair care products.
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Berger Paints
Outlook
Company expects double digit revenue growth in FY24, as the demand outlook
remains good in view of positive monsoon progress, infrastructure spends and
extended festive season
The company maintains its stance to get net cash positive by end of FY24
Since Diwali is delayed, higher growth rate in Q3FY24 is expected. Growth rate
in Q2FY24 is expected to be similar to Q1FY24.
Due to rainy season in July, Q2FY24 is expected to be moderate for most of the
players
Company may want to spend more in Q3/Q4 compared to rest of the quarters.
Ad spends are expected to be between 3.5 to 4% towards the end of the year.
Market share gains in East have been higher compared to gains on national level.
Company has no intention to get into other categories apart from paints and
waterproofing (including tiles and adhesives). No intention to get into home
décor.
Despite high base, company managed to secure double digit volume and value
growth.
Last 2year/3year value CAGR growth rates are higher since company had taken
price hikes.
Margins
38-40% gross margin is the indicative gross margin around which company would
want to stay.
In case of new products, gross margins are based on product type. Economy
range have lower margins and vice versa.
EBITDA margins have improved to 18.5% (since this did not have any one-off
expenses); steady state EBITDA margin range should be between 17% to 18%.
Debt position
The company maintain its stance to get net cash positive by end of FY24
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Discounts
Enamel plays a crucial role in this quarter so discounts are aggressive; however,
in next quarter emulsions discount will be more.
Andhra Govt. payment - Out of the INR3bn, company has already received
INR2.8bn. The balance amount is expected to be received in next 1 to 2 months.
Fire loss in factory - Berger has already applied for insurance and is expected to
receive the money in next 3 to 4months.
Decorative business
Healthy double-digit volume and value growth continued in spite of very high
base and an inflationary environment. Volume growth is around 14%.
Project
Project business is still in growth phase and doing better than retail.
Industrial business
Auto GI and Protective Division have done well even on high bases.
Protective coatings and General Industrial business continued its steady growth
for the quarter aided marginally by the impact of improved price realization
Powder Coatings business line showed a degrowth for the quarter due to high
base effect and downturn in fan industry. However the company expect the
business to turnaround in Q2FY24 and has already started to see revival from
July.
Regional competition
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International:
Bolix S.A, Poland: The overseas subsidiary had a strong quarter with growth in
both topline (revenue) and profitability. This growth was driven by good
performance in the U.K. business.
BJN Nepal: The overseas subsidiary had another quarter of degrowth in both
topline and profitability. This decline can be attributed to a slowdown in the
construction sector and steep inflation.
Other:
Depreciation expense related to Sandila plant have more or less been done. Only
additional scale up expenses are expected going forward.
Ad spends to sales ratio are similar to Q1FY23 (3% to 3.5%). Company may
accelerate Ad spends from Q3 onwards. It may want to spend more in Q3/Q4
compared to rest of the quarters. Ad spends are expected to be between 3.5 to
4% towards the end of the year.
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Britannia Industries
PLI
The company has received PLI incentive eligibility certificate from Tamil Nadu,
and has booked INR70-80mn in Q1. In Q4FY23, BRIT had received PLI benefits for
2 years at one go. Starting in Q1FY24, it will get INR150mn a quarter. GST benefits
from new plants will come in gradually.
In Q4FY23, other operating income shot up (17% of PBT) due to PLI that the
company got from government. For CY21-22 the company realised the money in
Q4FY23 of INR900mn. In Q1FY24, Company has received PLI incentive eligibility
certificate from Tamil Nadu, and has booked INR70-80mn in Q1.
Volume/pricing
Company had a transaction growth (packs sold) of 9% YoY in Q1FY24 (at par with
the revenue growth).
As inflation has receded, local players have started to add back grammage;
company has also taken steps in that direction to remain competitive.
The company will continue to monitor and ensure necessary pricing strategies to
remain competitive and drive market share growth.
Market share
Local players have been the gainer of market share. When inflation is high, local
players walk away and when things start to normalize, local players return and
start operating large schemes for consumers. Management remains confident
that it will be able to get back in few months.
Margin/inflation
Palm oil has seen huge deflation; roughly 21% YoY. Laminates and corrugated
boxes too have deflated.
Flour has seen 3% YoY/1% QoQ inflation. Sugar has also seen 1% YoY inflation.
Wheat/flour production has not been very healthy this year, but the company
continues to be covered for the next two–three months.
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Innovation
Total innovation is about 4% of top line and likely to remain to remain in a band
of 4-5%.
PET Milkshakes are now sourced from its new factory i.e. Ranjangaon.
Adjacencies
Seen some green shoots in Cake category. Strengthened Rusk portfolio with
regional core flavours such as Butter Rusk in East.
Similar to biscuits, regional players have emerged in rusk (there are nearly 2,500
local competitors in rusk) and cake. Company didn’t have Rusk commissioned in
the north, but now has commission rusk line in UP.
Dairy is expected to see double digit growth. Company is in the process of scaling
dairy factories and once it has scaled up, it will see cost efficiencies.
International has been a good story with Middle east and Africa growing in high
double digit.
Supply of SMP, SCM & Butter for captive consumption in Bakery from its Dairy
Plant in Ranjangaon has begun.
Distribution
Focus state growths have been much higher than the growth at rest of India
(grew 2.2x times versus growth in rest of India)
Rural distribution has grown over 2x in 5years; now company has 28,000 rural
preferred dealers.
Tirunelveli plant in Tamil Nadu has also been scaled up in Q1FY24. It has set up 5
new product lines here as well.
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Other:
The company increased advertising & promotion expenses to support brand and
drive innovation.
There has been sluggishness in the rural market for the company; although
company has been growing faster than others in rural. Urban markets have also
been slightly sluggish.
The single largest contributor for other expense growth was ad spends (grew
from 3.5% of the top line to 4.2% of top line).
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Dabur
Business highlights
Healthcare
Major change was advocacy for healthcare, Dabur is doing well in ayurvedic, and
has also started allopathic advocacy, which is doing a INR1500mn incremental
sales
Targeting 10% CAGR for healthcare and investing money in power brands for
healthcare.
Health Supplements
The company reported overall growth of 5.5% in Q1FY24 and 8.2% growth on a
four-year CAGR basis.
Honey news – Dabur’s honey stand by purity and in compliance with all FSSAI
and is manufactured at US FDA certified facilities. Every batch is tested on 65
parameters of FSSAI. 500 bps market share gained in Honey.
Digestives
OTC
The OTC segment demonstrated remarkable growth of 24.3% in Q1FY24, with its
brands performing strongly.
The success can be attributed to the outstanding performance of key brands such
as Lal Tail, Honitus, Dabur Health Juices, and Shilajit, all of which reported
double-digit growth rates.
Additionally, the company gained approximately 140 basis points (bps) in market
share in the Baby Massage Oils category and 20 bps in the Cough & Cold segment,
further contributing to overall growth of the OTC portfolio.
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Ethicals
This strategic move likely contributed to the segment's growth and expansion
within the market.
Oral Care
The toothpaste portfolio's growth was driven by Dabur Red, helping the
company consolidate its #2 position in the dentifrice segment.
The oral care observed a growth of 13% in Q1FY24 and a 12% growth on 4 year
CAGR basis.
Naturals accounts around 30-31 % share and there was 200bp improvement in
naturals,
Naturals as category grew 2.5% in volume but for Dabur it grew 9% and the
company has taken share from no 1 player
In 5-6 years - 50% of portfolio will become naturals and will continue to take
share,
There was 8% volume growth in oral care and targeting double-digit growth for
FY24.
Hair Oils
Despite the category's growth of 3.7% in value terms, Dabur's Hair Oils portfolio
recorded a solid growth of 10%.
Moreover, the market share for the hair oils portfolio improved by
approximately 200 bps, reaching its highest ever mark of 17.4%.
Dabur made a successful entry into the 1,000 crore cooling hair oil category with
Dabur Cool King.
Launched in May in North, Bihar and UP - Dabur Cool King. Initial response has
been positive and gained 15% relative MS from competitors. This is a INR10bn
category and has 25-30% repeat purchase rate. Offers non perpetual cooling
which no other competitor has got and hence pushing it
The hair oil observed a growth of 10% in Q1FY24 and a 5.2% growth on 4 year
CAGR basis.
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Shampoo
The company managed to increase its market share in the shampoo category by
about 10 bps.
Home Care
Meanwhile, Odomos saw a significant market share increase of about 340 bps.
The home care portfolio observed a growth of 14.5% in Q1FY24 and a 12.1%
growth on 4 year CAGR basis.
Skin Care
Overall, while the Beverage business faced challenges, the Foods category
experienced substantial growth, driven by the addition of Badshah Masala and
the strong performance of the Hommade brand.
Dabur's focus on innovation and portfolio expansion in the Foods segment seems
to be paying off and offsetting the impact of adverse weather conditions on the
Beverage business.
Beverages
The beverage business faced challenges due to the impact of unseasonal rainfall
in North and West India, resulting in a decline of 2% in growth.
Despite this setback, the Fruit drinks under Real Koolerz continued to perform
well, contributing positively to the overall portfolio.
The company managed to gain market share in the juices and fruit drinks
segment.
Peers have witnessed 25% decline in beverages, Dabur only witnessed 1.6%
decline in beverages. In terms of no of reaches it increased by 4-5%.
Full-year beverages will be muted, but this will be positive for Dabur due to
salience in margins.
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Volume growth has been negative for beverages, which led to overall value
decline.
Foods
Food basket inflation is around 11%, spices is around 19% inflation, food
concentrate also witnessing inflation.
Foods will exit at INR4500mn this year and next year foods target will be
INR5000mn.
Money is back in rural and price increase has come down and will come down in
coming quarters, and volumes will increase in coming quarters.
Both urban rural growing well now and gap will keep narrowing.
Overall business
Rural/Urban grew 8%/10% for Dabur, and has witnessed secular growth across
portfolio.
MT had some issues, but now is back growing at 18%, and targeting e-commerce
to be 9% of sales by FY24.
Ad spends was cut back last year due to huge inflation but not abated,
international saw some inflation and hence investing back in advertisement.
8-9% of sales should be media investment and money will keep going in media.
International business changes made last year reflected this quarter and for full
year targeting double-digit growth in international business in CC and INR terms.
OTC and Ethicals is 50-50 mix and margins profiles are similar.
30–40% of contribution for the whole year for beverages comes from the
summer season.
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There was 6–7% price increase and 6-7% volume growth for healthcare and 7-
8% volume growth in HPC.
Others
Innovation a % of sales stood at 3-4%. Out of which 10% was Baby care. Coolking
recorded INR60mn revenue; launching Odomos LUP going forward; Coconut
water doing well, Real fiz will exit at INR2bn and Dabur ghee at INR100mn exit;
Hajmola grew 15% and 10% of this is coming from innovation; INR100-110mn
coming from ayurvedic; Health juice growing at 20%.
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Emami
Outlook
Male grooming had a very high base in Q1FY23. Going forward, company remains
confident to see double digit growth from Q2 onwards.
Company will be generating MAT credit till FY26. From FY17, it will start utilizing
it.
Summer portfolio
Distribution channels
Company entered late into these two channels and has been focusing on these
channels in the last 8 to 10 quarters; as a result these channels have been
growing at 50-60% every quarter. Given decent size now, going forward, it is
expected to grow 15-20% as focus will be on a Profitable growth. In the next 2 to
3 years, it can reach to 25-26% of topline in the long term.
Company has also launched exclusive SKUs only for these channels (which were
not there earlier)
In the last four years, e-commerce salience has grown from 0% to ~10%.
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The key challenge now is to increase throughput from per store; which will be
majorly done through trade-marking initiatives.
Rural
Some markets have been better but company would need to wait before it sees
long term sustainable growth.
International business
Major growth is coming from the existing international markets from bigger
brands.
Navratna (largest), fair and handsome(second largest), Crème 21, 7 Oils in One,
Boroplus, OTC portfolio are the key brands in International market.
Egypt has been weak in this quarter. Ex-Egypt, growth has been 17% YoY.
Product-specific
The market size of cooling hair oils is very large. Company has not lost any market
share in it (Navratna oil)
Kesh king on overall basis is expected to grow around 7-8% for next few years.
Shampoo is expected to grow faster than Oils. Shampoo contribution is expected
to increase consistently.
Within Boroplus, most of the growth has come from Boroplus Soap.
Within healthcare, OTC had a challenge of high base in covid. Vitality products,
digestives are something on which company had started to focus since they were
not dependent on seasons.
D2C companies
TruNativ and Man company have grown by roughly 27% YoY. Sales contribution
is expected to be around 4-5% from each in FY23.
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Palm oil prices- In recent past again stable and is nothing extra ordinary. GCPL is
passing on reasonable cost to consumer but palm oil is looking slightly
inflationary but significantly lower than last year.
Net cash positive would be as on June end, which has been 2-3 months before
target which is still at marginally lower end.
RCCL acquisition has been good so far and has been as per plan and by end of
FY24 the goal is to be EPS positive. Overhead synergy will flow in Q3 and high
single digit EBITDA margin targeting overall. And from Q4 onwards, things will
improve. Downstocking will continue in Q2 but not in Q3/Q4.
GCPL is bullish on volume goals and has significantly moved money from working
capital to automation which supply chain needs in order to increase productivity.
Overall business
Home Care Volume Growth in the teens and Personal Care (Organic) in the mid-
single digits.
Home Care
HI growth was driven by weaker summer and extended season; impact of some
market development and non mosquito format done pretty well.
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HI is not a category where GCPL can say it is a potential victory category and has
to work more on it.
Air fresheners
Performance led by robust growth in Aer Pocket, Aer Matic and Car Range.
Personal care
Personal Wash delivers high-single digit volume growth; value growth in low-
single digit as the benefit of lower input cost was passed on to consumers.
Growth ahead of category led by effective media campaigns and micro marketing
initiatives.
Hair Colour grew in mid-single digits due to high base (launch of 15 Godrej Expert
Crème access pack); 2-year CAGR in teens.
Scaling up distribution of the access pack of Godrej Selfie Shampoo Hair Colour.
Soaps category didn’t had same salience of local players 10-15 years ago, now is
a consolidated category and hence not major salience now.
Margins in soaps have not crossed historic levels and GCPL's real goal is volume
growth in soaps category.
Shampoo hair colour is a material and fast growing segment, in Q1FY24 the
company introduced INR15 pack in south which is gaining traction.
RCCL acquisition
Primary sales were INR480mn crore and secondary sales were more than 2x of
primary sales.
RCCL acquisition has been good so far and has been as per plan.
Overhead synergy will flow in Q3 and high single digit EBITDA margin targeting
overall. And from Q4 onwards, things will improve.
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Initial run rate of RCCL was INR1500mn/quarter but due to downstocking led the
distributors sitting on 80-90 days inventory levels. Hence, taken return to large
tune due to down stocking leading to NSV lower than GSV.
Indonesia
Sales grew by 15% (constant currency) aided by structural initiatives taken last
year.
EBITDA margins at 19.5%, up 420 bps YoY led by reduction in trade promotions
and scale leverage.
EBITDA margins at 11.8%, up 350 bps YoY led by gross margin expansion.
Blended rate was NAIRA 650/USD and this will move to NAIRA 750/USD hence
cost of purchase will increase which will get passed on to consumers, and out of
which partly is passed and more will get passed with a lag of 2 months.
Others
Palm oil prices- In recent past again stable and is nothing extra ordinary. GCPL is
passing on reasonable cost to consumer but palm oil is looking slightly
inflationary but significantly lower than last year.
Net cash positive would be as on June end, which has been 2-3 months before
target which is still at marginally lower end.
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Capex of INR9bn
GCPL has high scale in industries when operating in categories hence prefers
insourcing also many categories are differentiated with enough secret sauce and
high margins and GCPL has the capability to manufacture the same in-house.
GCPL is bullish on volume goals and has significantly moved money from working
capital to automation which supply chain needs in order to increase productivity.
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Hindustan Unilever
Q1FY24 performance
The company reported an EBITDA margin at 23.6%, which was up 40 bps YoY.
PAT (before exceptional item) was up 9% YoY. PAT at INR24.72bn was up 8% YoY.
Sequentially vs Q4FY23, gross margin was up 140bp and A&P was stepped up by
110bp.
Urban continues to outpace rural, rural turned positive in this quarter, this
growth has come due to volume decline in base.
Royal expense, salary increase, capability investment, led to YoY increase in total
expenditure
The company reported a two-year CAGR volume growth of -4% for rural sector
while overall flattish growth.
Coffee, milk, barely witnessed significant price inflation, peak Sep-22 company
has seen 600bp impact in GM,
A&P is now at peak; however, price reduction and grammage increases have
been on the cards.
Home care
Home Care delivered another quarter of strong performance with 10% revenue
growth and mid-single digit UVG. Both Fabric Wash and Household Care grew
double-digit led by focused market development actions and premiumization.
Comfort in Wardrobe Premium Fragrance Hangers, Vim Shudhham Cleaning
Spray and Gel were launched in the quarter.
Fabric Wash witnessed double-digit growth balanced between price and volume
Premium portfolio outperforms, market share gains continue.
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BPC delivered 4% revenue growth with mid-single digit UVG. All in BPC had
volume-based growth.
Skin Care and Colour Cosmetics grew double-digit on the back of strong
performance in premium portfolio.
Hair Care delivered mid-single digit UVG led by Tresemme, Indulekha and Clinic
Plus. Innovations and future formats continue to do well.
Skin Cleansing had modest volume-led growth with Lux and Hamam continuing
to outperform.
Oral care delivered strong double-digit growth led by Close-Up. During the
quarter, Dove Men+ Care range, Indulekha Soap, Pond’s Anti Pigmentation
Serum were launched.
Tea saw modest volume led growth as the category continued to witness
consumers downgrading due to higher inflation in premium teas vis-à-vis loose
tea.
HFD continue to grow competitively with both Horlicks and Boost performing
well.
Foods grew in mid-single digit led by strong performance in Ketchup and Food
Solutions.
Currently there is widening gap between premium tea loose tea, saw
downgrading in tea.
BPC
Modest volume led growth in skin cleansing driven by Lux and Hamam. Price
reductions taken in soaps portfolio in Q3FY23 and Q4FY23. Market development
actions in bodywash continue to yield good results.
Mid single-digit volume growth in hair care led by Tresemme Indulekha and Clinic
Plus, Innovations and future formats continue to do well.
Skin cleansing- shares are lower than 10–15 years, the segment that was not
making profit had to be rolled back; focus remains on competitive price value
equation.
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Largest player in skin cleaning, grown skin care 4x, huge opportunity to gain
market share, see up trading in skin cleansing,
Right price value equation and building back gross margin § Step up in A&P
investments
Last year had 11-12% pricing growth this year this would be flat or merely
negative.
Weather term remains erratic, el nino heat waves impact, cropping of rice pulses
impact; consumer still facing high level of inflation, volume recovery to be
gradual.
Others
Rohit Jawa, CEO and Managing Director commented that FMCG markets are
recovering gradually although the operating environment remains challenging.
In this context, HUL has delivered a resilient and competitive performance whilst
stepping up its EBITDA margin.
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Indigo Paints
Detailed takeaways
Outlook
Indigo paints is back on the trend to grow at 2x to 3x of the industry growth rate,
and management remains confident of outpacing the industry growth.
Company has started work on a new water based paint plant at Jodhpur of
90,000 KLPA capacity, which is expected to be operational by the end of FY25.
The company has witnessed high growth in July. Kerala has been seeing double-
digit growth.
RM prices have continuously declined, but the company does not expect any
major change in the major and micro paint environment.
Gaining market share in east and west India, Share of Kerala has been going down
the overall pie from 35% to 1-1.5% down every year. Today it is at around 28%
will now come to 25% by year-end.
Expecting the sales growth to outpace the industry growth in the upcoming
quarters as well; Sales during July’23 has been exceptionally good.
Sales growth in tier-1/2 cities ahead of tier-3/4, rural, and Indigo expects the
trend to continue.
On the B2B front, Apple Chemie has started expanding the operations outside
the state of Maharashtra and has ramped up the sales and marketing team.
Business update
The company’s special focus on tier-1/2 cities along with various initiatives aided
sales growth.
Company continued its advertising spends as part of its long-term brand building
strategy, and had launched a campaign to promote economy range of products.
Trial production carried out successfully at new plant in Tamil Nadu and
expecting final few approvals for commercial production.
Q1FY24 (standalone)
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Gross margin expanded to 47.58% in Q1FY24 over 45.19% in Q1FY23 and 46.82%
in Q4FY23
EBITDA and PAT have expanded by 35.31% and 57.15% respectively over Q1FY24
Growth in Net revenue for the quarter at 3.0x-3.5x the industry growth of 6.5%-
7.0%.
The company continues to focus on brand building and spent INR21.05 Cr in the
quarter, which is largely similar to the quantum spent last year. But the expense
as a percentage of revenue decreased to 7.60% compared to 9.42% (in Q1FY23)
which contributed to the EBITDA margin.
Q1FY24 (consolidated)
Apple Chemie
Indigo Paints and Apple Chemie have been working together to bring in synergies
in revenues, cost and finance.
Apple Chemie itself has the capability to be a PAN India player; hence, company
will continue to works towards growing organically PAN India.
Apple Chemie last year had INR400-420mn. Order book at the moment suggests
that company would do 40% or more growth in the existing geography and
existing customer base. It is expected to gather much higher momentum in the
second half of the year. A possibility of touching INR2bn in few years is very
feasible; however, the pace at which it can be achieved needs to be watched.
The expansion of Apple Chemie is not expected to see any margin dilution since
the margins profiles are more or less similar to Indigo paints.
Ad spends
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Distribution
The company added two more depots in North India to improve the distribution
efficiency and intends to open more depots going ahead.
Primers and distempers are both low value products. However, distempers is of
much lower value.
The volumes in distempers were higher than primers in Q1 as a result the overall
volume growth is higher than value growth.
Others
Company has planned a phased expansion of sales force throughout the year.
Growth in T1/T2 has been 1.5x the growth of small towns. By end of FY24, T1/T2
is expected to contribute 38-40% of top line.
Dealer count and throughput per dealer were low in T1/T2 cities and company
has been working on it. Increasing throughput per dealer is a higher focus.
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ITC
Q1FY24 key highlights
Robust growth in FMCG – Others
Segment Revenue up 16.1% YoY to exceed 5000 cr. in a quarter for the first time.
Staples, Biscuits, Noodles, Beverages, Dairy, Agarbatti and premium Soaps drive
growth.
Segment EBITDA margins at 11.0% (+325 bps YoY) ̶ Segment PBIT at 2.1x of LY.
Segment EBITDA margin up 140 bps YoY to 33.9% (+1640 bps over pre-pandemic
levels) driven by higher RevPAR, structural cost interventions & operating
leverage.
Segment PBIT up 25.3% YoY driven by Value Added Agri products and Leaf
Tobacco.
Subdued demand conditions (domestic and exports), low priced Chinese supplies
in global markets, sharp reduction in global pulp prices and high-base effect
weigh.
Lower realisations and sharp increase in input costs (viz. wood, coal) exert
pressure on margins.
Segment Revenue down 6.5% YoY (2-yr. CAGR +16%); Segment PBIT down 22.9%
YoY (2-yr. CAGR +10%).
Detailed takeaways
FMCG – Others
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Strong traction witnessed in both traditional and emerging channels (viz. Modern
Trade, e-Commerce, Quick Commerce).
FMCG – Cigarettes
Hotels business
Occupancy moderated on a high base due to relatively few wedding dates during
the quarter and pre-planned renovations.
6 new hotels added to the ITC Hotels Group during the quarter.
Segment EBITDA margin expanded by 140 bps YoY to 33.9%; margin expansion
driven by higher RevPAR, curated packages, finest F&B offerings and strategic
cost management initiatives.
Agri business
Leveraging strong customer relations & agile execution and new state-of-the-art
value-added Spices processing facility in Guntur.
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Sharp escalation in wood & coal costs; Integrated business model and strategic
interventions in import pulp substitution, High Pressure Recovery Boiler, digital
interventions and cost competitive fibre chain partially mitigated inflationary
impact.
ITC Infotech
Consequently, the share entitlement ratio need not be determined based on fair
valuations of the companies concerned.
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Marico
Overall
Foods continued its healthy scale up with 24% value growth YoY, aided by steady
growth in core and newer franchises.
Nearly, 85% of the portfolio either sustained or gained market share and
penetration on MAT basis.
Deflation in Q1FY24 impacted parachute and copra prices are expected to move
sideways for few more months. Uptick in growth parachute would be probably
seen from Q2.
In Q3/Q4, there will be better EBITDA margins without YoY cutting down on A&P.
The deflation in Saffola oils (which led to up to 30% price cuts) is not expected to
happen in other quarters. The deflatoin numbers will keep on declining and in
second half, there should not be any deflation.
Number of households that buy saffola oats is higher than saffola oil. All products
that are designed for saffola ensure that taste is a key differentiating factor.
Demand environment
Erratic weather patterns, early onset of El-Nino and spatial distribution of rainfall
could influence recovery in overall sentiment
Domestic business
~85% of the portfolio either sustains or gains market share and penetration on
MAT basis pricing drops in key domestic portfolios and currency headwinds in
international markets subdue revenue growth.
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Core portfolios
Parachute Coconut Oil (34% of Domestic Revenues), (-2%) volume growth and
(-5%) value growth.
Saffola Franchise (Edible Oils + Foods) (24% of Domestic Revenues), (-13%) value
growth and a low double digit volume growth
Value Added Hair Oils (25% of Domestic Revenues), ~20bps gain in value market
share and a flattish value growth.
Higher share of voice driving brand salience and relevance across key portfolios
The company gained a 42% value market share in Saffola Oats maintaining its
leadership position and it recorded a 25% growth in food value.
International Business
Mena: 15% Q1 CC growth; Double-digit growth in Gulf region and Egypt Broad-
based performance.
Margins
The blended margin of premium personal care and food should be similar to
company's core portfolio in sometime.
Company is confident to cross the 20% EBITDA margin in FY24. On a full year
basis, GMs are expected to expand ~300bps.
Premium personal care such as serums, male grooming and skin care have the
capability to generate higher EBITDA margins. In oats, company is confident to
achieve core business margins.
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Pricing/volumes
The pricing deflation in domestic portfolio has started to tape off, thus company
will start to see positive revenue growth in H2FY24.
Raw materials
Prices should remain range bound with a slight upward bias in the near-term as
the seasonal supplies slow down and festive demand picks up.
Rice Bran Oil (RBO) prices declined 16% QoQ and 38% YoY, in line with the sharp
correction in the international vegetable oil complex. Liquid Paraffin (LLP) was
flat and HDPE was down 15% YoY.
The burn rate of Plix is lower than other D2C startups in similar business; it
mirrors Beardo.
Company does want to run the business like its core categories because D2C
brands need to have a different strategy.
Company looks at companies which have a high repeat rate and good rating on
e-commerce platforms.
Gross margins of Plix is high. Plix brand can afford to have a digital first model,
given that it has high gross margins.
Economic outlook
Healthy offtakes along with market share and penetration gains across key
categories; indicating likelihood of uptick in volume growth in coming quarters.
Robust expansion in gross and operating margins, while making adequate A&P
investments to maintain SoV>SoM
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Growth uptick in Parachute CNO and VAHO from Q2. Saffola Oils to stay stable
amidst volatility in vegetable oil prices.
With incremental gross margin tailwinds in Q1, expect highest ever operating
margin (20%+) in FY24.
Pricing decline to taper off from Q2 onwards. Revenue growth to move into
positive territory in H2.
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Nestle
Product groups’ performance – Q2CY23 (domestic)
Prepared Dishes and Cooking Aids: Registered double-digit growth driven by MAGGI
Noodles and aided through distribution expansion and impactful consumer
activations.
Milk Products and Nutrition: Delivered strong double-digit growth despite
inflationary pressures. Growth driven by Milkmaid and Peptamen. Growth was
further aided by the launch of Resource Fibre choice and Everyday Zero added sugar.
Confectionery: Registered double-digit growth led by KITKAT and MUNCH.
Performance was supported by strong consumer engagement and media
campaigns.
Beverages: The product group registered robust double-digit growth led by greater
household penetration NESCAFE Classic, NESCAFE Sunrise and NESCAFE GOLD for
both hot and cold coffee occasions. NESCAFE continued the journey of innovation,
with the launch of cold coffee premix NESCAFE ALL-IN-1 FRAPPE.
Petcare Business: Continues to provide complete nutrition for cats and dogs. Felix
has received positive feedback from trade and cat parents.
Commodity outlook
Commodities such as edible oils, wheat and packaging materials have been in the
lower price range. A reversal of price trend is noted in fuels with prices softening in
second quarter after reaching higher level towards the end of quarter one. In fresh
milk, there has been price stability. Robusta prices are elevated and are expected to
remain volatile.
New launches
Nestle Launched three notable new products in the Indian market - Resource
Fiber Choice, a unique and effective gut health solution that is proven to help
relieve constipation and improve gut health, Everyday Zero - the dairy whitener
with no added sugar and MUNCH Breakfast Cereals.
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Pidilite
Ooutlook
A good monsoon, increased construction activity and stab e input prices enable
us to look at the future with increased optimism.
PIDI is seeing demand uptick in wood adhesives, 2/3rd demand is renovation and
balance is new construction.
Quite optimistic about next 6 months, long festive season and stable input prices.
VAM prices will go around 1000 in next 6 months
July month was disruption - 7 plants in HP close to Chandigarh had closure and
had consolidation for warehouse at Ambala, however in August September not
have further disruption.
C&B
Consumer & Bazar Segment ('C&B') grew by 9% with Domestic C&B business
registering double digit revenue and Underlying Volume Growth
Price premium stands at ~10-15% in wood adhesive area, however this quarter
reduced prices given vam prices declined but still maintains the premium price
band on lower prices as well.
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B2B
B2B registered single digit revenue decline, largely due to lower exports and
lower demand from export-oriented industries.
Bangladesh is suffering from lack of forex and also Eid came in same quarter
hence lot of holidays.
Performance overview
Current quarter's standalone net sales growth of 6.2%, on a previous year higher
base (QI 23: 62.5%), was driven by strong Underlying Volume Growth of 7.9%
(UVG: Volume growth including impact of change in product mix).
Part of gains were reinvested in A&P spends which stood at 3.6% compare to
2.1% in base quarter.
In Enamels, PIDI has made progression and volume growth will be key driver.
International subsidiaries
International subsidiaries (excl Pidilite USA Inc.) sales were in line with previous
year, largely due to uncertain economic conditions, currency devaluation
challenges in some countries & local inflation pressures with flat EBITDA.
The Urban & Rural markets grew in double digits with rural markets continued
to grow faster, signalling a gradual recovery in the rural economy.
In last 12 months added 17,000 villages. In home improvement PIDI has deepest
distribution with 8000 PKDs in villages , each is launching new innovation will
hope to go subsn in nextx 12 months, volume gtowth will be key, in enamels
made progress through digital more than 25% of sales through genie app.
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Frieght and logistic higher in rural. Urban business is tend to be higher on scheme
and discount due to competition intensity.
Quite optimistic about next 6 months, long festive season and stable input prices.
VAM prices will go around 1000 in next 6 months
Waterproofing
Every paint company has different waterproofing, PIDI uses new construction
and renovation,
Paint companies sell most renovation and less construction- 9/10 consumer
named Dr fixit in waterproofing product,
Others
Working capital situation is healthy and PIDI has a healthy cash position.
Looking for initiatives in AI – aims to add 3-4 manufacturing facilities per year.
On its premium front ICA pidilite is a strong and has minimum price point 750/ltr.
Every year PIDI will add one or more category across portfolio.
4yrs ago very small player in tile adhesives and now no2 player
In July, 7 plants in HP close to Chandigarh had closure and saw consolidation for
warehouse at Ambala.
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The company had another strong quarter with consolidated revenue growth of
12% (11% constant currency) driven by strong growth in India business.
Consolidated EBITDA grew 19%. During the quarter, India Beverages grew 10%,
with tea volumes growing 3% YoY. NourishCo continued its momentum with a
60% revenue growth YoY. India Foods grew 24%with volumes up 6%.
Tata Sampann delivered yet another strong quarter, growing 51% YoY.
International business recorded 7% revenue growth (-4% ex-acquisitions in
constant currency), with EBIT growth of 11%. Tata Starbucks opened 16 new
stores during the quarter. Its top line grew 21% YoY.
It continued to drive “India Growth” businesses –combined, they grew 58% and
accounted for 20% of the India business during Q1FY24.
While volume market share in tea was slightly lower on a MAT basis, it was
broadly stable vs the same quarter last year. While the Tata Salt franchise gained
share, overall salt market share saw a marginal dip led by the lower-priced
brands in the portfolio.
At the company level, the EBITDA margin expanded by 80bps YoY, led by
improvement in both the India as well as International business. The profitability
profile of the company’s growth businesses improved significantly, primarily led
by NourishCo.
The company continued to invest behind its brands with A&P-to-sales for its India
Branded business at 7.1%
This was yet another busy quarter in terms of new launches with Innovation-to-
Sales at 5%. Tata Soulfull entered several new categories.
Decent volume and market share in tea and salt helping in driving the whole
portfolio.
Q- commerce- has been in upswing in last 7-8 months, however cost economies
should work in order to scale up further. Q-commerce growing stronger than
average , online space in tea business TCPL is market leader.
On track to reach 4m outlets by Sep’23, effectively doubling its total reach since
Sep’20.
The company continued to increase bandwidth at the front end through split
routes for salesmen in Ten Lac Plus Population (TLP) towns. The results have
been encouraging so far.
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Tata Soulfull entered new categories with exciting new launches, expanding its
Total Addressable Market (TAM)
NutriDrink+ offers grain-based drinks in two flavours, Almond and Cocoa Lite. It
is aimed at adults and offers 10g of protein per serve.
Millet Granola, packed with 20% crunchy millets and 24% Fruit & Nut, launched
to complement the existing Muesli range further strengthening its offerings in
the premium cereal category
Tata Soulfull Oats+ is a plain oats + 20% millets offering, that can be prepared in
under 5 minutes, and offers the benefits of high fiber, high protein, and lasting
energy.
Tata soulful- strong brand, product and team, led to significant improvements in
market share, it has mid to high single digit market share range in cereals, masala
oats has strong double digit market share
Tata Coffee Gold Cold Brew: Steeped for more than 12 hours for a strong, rich
velvety taste. Launched in 3 flavours–Mocha, Classic and Hazelnut.
Tata Spring Alive: Pristine packaged water with natural minerals intact,
competitively priced.
1868 Range Extension and Tea Bags: Adding to its premium 1868 range with 4
variants of milk teas and 3 green teas. Launch of tea bags ensures flavits with
convenience
Tata Sampann Daliya: Launched raw Daliya, marking its entry into a highly salient
category in the North making it the perfect fit for Tata Sampann
Tata Sampann South Hing: Expanding its range of South Spices with a high value
product –Asafoetida Powder (Hing) in line with its hyperlocal strategy
North India tea prices increased in line with annual trends, as it entered the
plucking season. Prices were 7% lower YoY.
South India tea prices during the quarter were 11% higher YoY.
Arabica prices for the quarter saw a slight uptick QoQ but were 17% lower YoY.
Robusta saw a sharp increase with average prices for the quarter reaching
$c119/lbs owing to tight global supplies, up 27% YoY.
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Last year, tea prices were on reverse trend , flat to marginal down tread in tea is
witnessed.
Salt - total cost to come down a bit (imported coal and dollar price -stable, brine
has seen uptick). Price cuts not happening as of now since no cuts anticipated. .
Broadly playing in a flat cost environment. Have the ability to recover the 33%
hike once the prices play out.
Revenue for the quarter grew 2%,with 3% volume growth, recording another
consecutive quarter of positive volume growth.
Tata Tea Premium and Tata Tea Agni, two of its largest brands, experienced
robust volume growth during the quarter. This indicates a strong demand for its
tea products and reflects positively on its market position.
TCPL (Tata Consumer Products Limited) has successfully retained its market
leadership in the e-commerce channel for the 26th consecutive month. This
achievement highlights its company's ability to adapt to the digital landscape and
maintain a competitive edge in online sales.
The revenue from its coffee segment demonstrated impressive growth, showing
a YoY increase of 21% during the quarter. This growth signals a favorable
response from consumers towards its coffee offerings and represents a
significant contribution to its overall financial performance.
In the modern trade channel, the tea segment of the company achieved a growth
rate of 1.7 times the overall category growth, reflecting the strong performance
and increased market share of Tata Consumer Products Limited in this
distribution channel. This outperformance indicates the successful execution of
its sales and marketing strategies, which have resonated with consumers and
helped us gain traction over its competitors.
Tea crop has not been great due to heatwaves, tea margins are not where they
should be, will take one more quarter to normalise.
India Foods
Salt revenue recorded a substantial growth of 18% during the current quarter,
despite being compared to a high base from the same period last year when salt
revenue grew by 20% in Q1FY23. This performance showcases the resilience and
consistent demand for its salt products in the market. With this quarter's growth,
the 4-year revenue CAGR (Compound Annual Growth Rate) for salt now stands
at an impressive 17%.
Tata Sampann, its product line offering various food products, delivered an
exceptional performance during the quarter, achieving a remarkable 51% year-
on-year growth. It is worth noting that this impressive growth occurred on a
relatively softer base, considering that in Q1FY23, the growth for Tata Sampann
was 6%. This significant growth indicates the successful execution of its business
strategies and highlights the increasing popularity of Tata Sampann among
consumers.
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The salt business margin remained within the normative range during the
quarter. This stability in margins demonstrates its ability to effectively manage
costs and maintain profitability in the highly competitive salt market. Despite
market fluctuations, its focus on operational efficiency has allowed them to
sustain healthy margins in this segment.
investment thesis- Will not be category creators and will rather introduce a brand
in the existing category. Shipping out one more category in next 96 hours. TCPL’s
core has to do very well before they expand.
TCPL is focussing both on spices and pulses. From the margin perspective since
the margin in spices is significantly higher than in pulses. TCPL is the only
company in India to offer pulses. It takes time to move consumer habit.
Frequency of purchases of blends is lower than pures . South requires a different
tweak in spices.
EBITDA margins in spices are significantly higher than pulses but spices is a sticky
category especially blended, wherein frequency of purchase is lower.
The business demonstrated a robust revenue growth of 60% during the quarter,
even when compared to an elevated base of 110% growth in Q1FY23. This
impressive performance is particularly noteworthy considering the adverse
weather conditions during the period, showcasing its ability to overcome
challenges and capitalize on opportunities in the market.
Tata Gluco+ Jelly, one of its innovative product offerings, experienced its highest
production and sales in Jun'23. This exceptional growth can be attributed to the
successful ramp-up of production capacity, enabling us to meet the increased
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demand for this product. The positive response from consumers reflects the
appeal of this unique offering in the market.
Its new product developments, Tata Spring Alive, and Tata Coffee Cold Brew have
seen a strong initial response from consumers. These products have been well-
received in the market, indicating that its innovation efforts are paying off and
resonating with customers' preferences. The encouraging reception to these
new products bodes well for their future growth and success.
In water category TCPL’s market share is not even mid single digit, so lot potential
to grow
The overall revenue for the quarter exhibited a solid growth rate of 11%, driven
primarily by the outstanding performance of the plantations business.
The Vietnam business delivered strong results, with robust sales and improved
profitability. The performance was bolstered by increased sales of premium
products, indicating a positive response from consumers.
The process of obtaining regulatory approvals for the proposed merger of Tata
Consumer Products Limited (TCPL) with Tata Coffee is currently underway. The
matter is in its final stages of the process and is being reviewed by the National
Company Law Tribunals (NCLTs). This merger is expected to have significant
implications for both companies, potentially leading to increased synergies and
strengthening their positions in the market.
Tata Coffee Vietnam was recognized for its commitment to food safety and
excellence. The company received the prestigious "Food Safety Excellence
Award" from the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) at the 13th CII Food safety
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awards. This recognition highlights Tata Coffee Vietnam's efforts and dedication
to maintaining high standards of food safety, ensuring the quality and safety of
its products.
The company expanded its retail presence by adding 16 new stores and
successfully entered fits new cities during the quarter. This strategic expansion
into untapped markets and cities represents the company's commitment to
reaching a wider customer base and capturing new opportunities for growth.
Despite the significant addition of new stores, the business managed to remain
EBIT (Earnings Before Interest and Taxes) positive during the quarter. This
positive financial performance highlights the company's ability to efficiently
manage costs and generate profits, even in the face of rapid expansion.
International operations
UK
In constant currency terms, the revenue for the quarter experienced a modest
growth of 1%. However, when reported, the revenue growth was more
substantial, reaching 6%. This indicates that fluctuations in currency exchange
rates might have affected the revenue figures, but overall, the company showed
positive growth.
The company's three brands, Tetley, Teapigs, and Good Earth, all gained valuable
market share during the quarter. This demonstrates the effectiveness of the
company's brand strategies and their ability to attract and retain customers in a
competitive market.
USA
Coffee revenue for the quarter experienced a decline of 5%. This decline can be
attributed to the lapping of previous price increases and continued softness in
the coffee category, which impacted overall sales.
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Canada
The company's revenue for the quarter experienced a decline of 7%, primarily
due to softness in the tea category. The challenging market conditions and lower
consumer demand in the tea segment contributed to the decrease in revenue.
Despite the overall decline in the tea category, Tetley, one of the company's
brands, continued to outperform the regular tea category during the quarter.
This suggests that Tetley's products maintained their competitive edge and
attracted more consumers compared to other regular tea offerings in the
market.
The company confirmed the listing for the launch of Live Teas 2.0 in Metro and
Walmart. This listing signifies that the new product offering, Live Teas 2.0, will be
available in these prominent retail chains, which could potentially open up new
growth opportunities for the company.
Outlook
Macros
The company has observed improving demand trends for its core categories,
which is a positive sign for its business. However, it is cautiously optimistic about
the future, as it is subject to factors like rural recovery and a normal monsoon,
which can impact consumer behavior and demand patterns.
Business
The interventions implemented for the India tea business have yielded positive
results, resulting in volume-led growth. However, the volume growth is still
below the company's medium-term aspiration, indicating room for further
improvement in this segment.
Despite steep price increases taken earlier, the salt business has seen volume
growth. For the remainder of FY24, growth in the salt business is expected to be
driven by volumes and premiumization, which indicates a focus on high-quality
products and capturing higher-value market segments.
The joint venture with Tata Starbucks has been performing well, with a growth
rate of 21% during the quarter. This joint venture now has a considerable
presence with 348 stores across 46 cities, reflecting a successful partnership.
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United Spirits
IPL
Royal Challengers Sports Private Limited (RCSPL) is the only operating subsidiary
of UNSP. It has stepped up earnings, driven by revenues from the Indian Premier
League the new media rights cycle.
The first 10 years of men's IPL were at EBITDA loss, and later on it turned EBITDA-
positive. In eight years, even women's team is expected to touch the inflection
point, and break even or become profitable.
UNSP generated nearly INR3bn in profit from men's IPL and INR900mn loss from
women's IPL. This is expected to stay for next 5 years.
The IPL profit and loss gets set once in 5years, the biggest drivers is media rights
and sponsorships. On a worse case, this PNL is expected to remain flat.
Demand:
Tax rates in Karnataka are already higher and a 20% tax increase means that
UNSP's brands price will be up by 14-15% with no benefit to the company.
Experience suggests that there could be a negative impact with such an hike and
it could put pressure on Karnataka volumes.
This is the second consecutive quarter of double digit growth in P&A segment.
100% normalization of BIO has happened in this quarter, along with ramp up of
innovations/renovations has helped the company achieve this.
Company's focus will be to juice out the benefit from innovation and renovation
as much as possible.
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A&P
BIO portfolio has returned as per expectations and the company started to put
back investments in A&P for BIO.
Margins
Reported Gross margin was 43.6%. Excluding the one-off benefit of INR130mn
driven by a write-back, underlying gross margin stood was 43.0%, continuing the
sequential quarter-on-quarter improvement.
EBITDA margin stood at 17.7%. This was largely driven by gross margin expansion
and productivity across the value chain.
Others
60% of other expenses are variable and it would change based on volumes. The
balance 40% are fixed corporate overheads.
Company is optimistic of UK-FTA deal to flow through. If the 150% duty goes
down to 100%, there would be a 5% change in prices; if it goes down to 50%, one
can see 12-15% impact. However, whenever it comes through it will have a
positive impact.
Salience from Karnataka state (popular segment) has reduced post sale of the
popular portfolio.
North is 60% of company's national scotch market. The share of growth of North
is highest in the overall algorithm.
Launched Godawan 100 in May 2023. Company received good response for
Godwan 100 and it fetched upwards of INR90,000/bottle
Royal challengers has expanded its reach in Orrisa and Chandigarh. It is now in
80%+ salience markets.
Antiquity has reach 50% salience of market. Johnnie walker blonde was one of
the biggest premium launch. Now available in 9+ states and focus would be to
expand markets.
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Apollo Hospitals
Hospitals
Last year OP was higher as it had covid patients as well. Like-to-like basis, there
is growth. Tamil Nadu: OP growth lower due to holiday season and travel
restrictions. Jul’23 looking good. Occupancy is picking up.
Payor mix: pre-covid versus now: Self pay 40% to 45%. Insurance 25–28% to 44%.
After Delhi: IPS ,which is now 7%, is 15% in Delhi.
Occupancy: will take more time to reach to 70%. No capex required. Bed addition
will not impact occupancy. Adding beds in Calcutta and Bangalore, where
occupancy is already 75%. Gurgaon will come year after that where occupancy is
72%.
Mature hospital margin: Increase in surgical mix which has resulted in higher cost
of materials. This is aided by higher insurance patients given their high
propensity to pay. Doctor fees related to this went up this quarter. Taken tariff
correction in middle of this quarter. Next quarter should go up.
New hospital margin: lower due to higher surgical mix, increase in marketing
spends, and clinical talent for future growth.
Take rate declined from 42-43% to 33%. Expect to improve in July-23. 35-40%
take rate in Q2.
24/7 cost to GMV ratio: FY24: 20-22%. 28% in Q1FY24. 32% in Q4FY23. Cost will
come down. On track to achieve operational breakeven by Q4FY24.
Combined pharmacy grew by 24% YoY. EBITDA margin pre Ind AS: 2.5-3% (Added
1000 stores in FY23 which will take 12-15 months to breakeven). FY24: 500-600
stores.
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Dr Lal PathLabs
Business highlights
10% non-covid growth was largely realisation led- 3% price hikes; 2.5% volumes
and balance is mix.
Reported 6.1% growth in samples. 6.9mn patient visits; this was flat YoY on
unusually high base of last quarter. Over last 4-years, organic patient growth has
been 7%. Patient visits were lower this quarter. Contemplating whether this was
because of price increase. Trends are improving though. Bundled packages could
be reason why patient visits are lower. Annualised basis may see smart recovery
in volumes.
INR789 realisation per patient vs INR727 last quarter +8.6%. This was higher due
to higher Swasthfit contribution, price hikes and test mix. 3% price hikes benefit
to revenues.
Revenue per test will always decline as Swasthfit contribution increases. But
revenue per patient going up. Test per patient has gone up sharply due to higher
Swasthfit contribution.
Do not think 27% margin is sustainable. H1 margin are usually higher than H2
due to better text mix (high gross margin) and volumes. Retain guidance of pre-
covid level margin i.e. 25%.
32% overall revenues from Delhi NCR share. Delhi NCR growth has gone up this
quarter, but this is unlikely to sustain.
Effective tax rate – ~25%. This quarter was higher because of notional
depreciation. Standalone tax rate is 25%.
Suburban
Revenues of INR370mn – non-covid is about INR360mn. Volume growth is
slightly muted. Margin – improved. 11-13% range.
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Industry/competition/strategy
Shift towards evidence based treatment post pandemic, which is a positive shift.
Higher awareness and increase in customer with brand awareness.
Tier 2/3 markets are yet to open up. Unorganised sectors will still be existent,
but organised players are yet to make inroads.
Other players are expected to take price hikes based on their specialties.
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Fortis Healthcare
Hospitals
Margin guidance -19-20% retained. Expect improved performance going
forward. Smaller assets had softer quarter. Unseasonal rains disrupted the
routine work as well as summer vacations had an impact on occupancy.
Unfavourable payor mix also impacted margin. Loss making facilities – Sacred
Heart, Bangalore and Malar. Oncology which grew faster had lower contribution
margin.
Plan to achieve 70% occupancy on extended bed capacities. BG Road and Mulund
may have lower occupancy initially but confident to have better occupancy in
other hospital expansion. Occupancy is trending upward toward 70% (based on
current month). There is no pent up demand. Earlier there was pick up in elective
surgeries.
Expect ARPOB to grow at 4-5% for FY24 implying ~INR58,000. Don’t expect high
surgical mix seen in Q1 to sustain and seasonal benefit. ARPOB growth in Q1 was
led by price increases (~2-3%) and healthy surgical mix.
Manesar – Plan to start with 100-125 beds from 1 year from now. Expect to ramp
it up faster, given its in core market and by 2 years from now, should
commercialise entire facility. Breakeven – 18 months. This is over and above
1400 brownfield bed additions.
Key medical therapies– oncology grew 34% YoY and now contributes 14% of
hospital revenues. Top 6 specialties contributed 60% of hospital revenues. On-
boarded clinical specialists in neurology, pulmonology, urology. To grow these
specialities.
International business continue to take traction, and accounts for 8.5% of overall
hospital business revenues. Expect it to reach double-digit revenues soon. In
absolute terms, have already surpassed the pre-covid levels. Have been growing
at 20% in last 2 years.
Key developments: 1) In Jul’23 sold Arcot Road hospital for INR1.25bn. The
hospital clocked revenues of INR510mn and EBITDA loss of INR360mn in FY23. 2)
Hope to close acquisition of Manesar hospital shortly.
Beds for P&L perspective: 4,100. ARPOB and occupancy calculated on 4100 beds.
Network will have 4500+ beds.
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Nursing attrition is a challenge for the entire industry. May see this kind of stretch
for next 3-4 years as they tend to go abroad for experience and better salaries.
This is well factored-in in the margin guidance.
SRL
Non-covid revenues grew 9% YoY.
Do not require any approval other than the usual ones for IPO.
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Healthcare Global
Acquisitions
The Indore and Nagpur facilities were acquired for inorganic growth. Both the
facilities have an established marketplace and boast attractive locations in
Central India.
Nagpur had a complex structure. Infrastructure company and LLP, which was
operating company. HCG, NCHRI, LLP, which is HCG’s operating hospital, and
NCHRI, which is 100% owned by Dr. Mehta. Earlier, revenue share arrangement.
Now buying the stake in infrastructure will provide operational efficiency. In both
places, will become 100% owner.
Expect > INR140–150mn incremental EBITDA in Indore and Nagpur. Net debt on
the balance sheet to increase by INR1.07bn, out of which consideration for the
acquisition shall be ~INR770mn while INR300mn shall be consolidation of debt
of the Nagpur Center.
Financials/Others
Not doing any green-fields. On acquiring hospital with positive revenue and
EBITDA, but at lower multiples. Payback 6–7 years.
Lower EBITDA growth due to 2 reasons: i) Investment in clinical talent for driving
growth. Start to see leverage from Q3 onwards. ii) Due to delayed LINAC
machines installation and upgradation, 300 operating days were wasted on radio
therapy which impacted revenues from radio oncology. Radiation business down
by 1%, which has an 80% margin, i.e. INR40-45mn revenues lost. Expect higher
leverage going forward.
Four out of five LINAC machines already operational in Q2. These machines will
be operational in Q2 and will drive EBITDA in Q3 and Q4. Also evaluating adding
a machine in Kolkata, Nagpur and Vizag (three of its well performing centers) on
radiation, which will probably come, beginning of next year.
New center margin levers: i) operating leverage from doctors; ii) Nagpur center
acquisition to add 40-50bps. Borivali and Jaipur centers are already close to 20%
margin. Focusing to drive revenue growth in South Mumbai and Kolkata centers.
Believe EBITDA would play out in future. Right now these centers are driving
down margin by 100-150bps. Breakeven expected in Q4FY24.
Emerging centers such as Jaipur and Nagpur were driving growth in Chemo
admissions in previous quarters, which have now normalised. Expects Mumbai
and Kolkata centers to drive this growth in future.
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Milann: Future growth will primarily be from Bangalore. Shutting down Delhi
Center and efforts in place to improve Chandigarh. Cost for setting up one Milann
center is INR30–50mn.
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No change in top-line growth guidance. Store opening guidance for FY24 – 800-
1000 stores. Plan to expand in MP, Chhattisgarh and Kerala. May look to expand
in North India but not as of now.
o Uptick has been fantastic. As of July, 14% of products sold are of Medplus
brands. Margin accretive despite being sold at discount. Bring in more
customers to stores, especially those lost in last few years. Earlier private
label used as substitute for non- availability of certain prescribed drugs, but
now actively selling it at discounted price. Initially margin would be affected
marginally, but should add to the topline and provide a sticky customer
base.
o Old private labels vs Medplus brands assuming INR100 MRP: Old private
label net revenue INR83, after cost, GST, realisation is INR50. Medplus
brands – net revenues INR40-45 after 60% discount; INR21-22 EBITDA.
Less than 2 year old stores contributing negative to EBITDA. Of the stores opened
in Jul’22-Dec-22 – 58% achieved breakeven in 6 months.
Opened 995 stores in last 1 year. Majority of the additions happened in West
Bengal (52) and Karnataka. Avg. size of stores 542 sq.ft. 2855 stores are <600 sq.
ft. and 1120 stores are > 600 sq. ft.
12+ month stores revenue was 89% of pharmacy revenue. EBITDA of INR452mn
with 4% margin.
Inventory turnover 114 days in 1st year. 12+ month fall to 41 days. Inventory 1
year old stores: 35 days of inventory, start with INR1.8mn and 30-35 days in
warehouse. After 1 year, those stores doing INR100,000 per day, improves to 28
-30 days.
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If all stores were 2 year+ stores – 5% EBITDA margin on steady state basis (pre-
Ind As).
Diagnostics
Currently, there are 4 full service and 7 level 2 centres and 122 collection centres.
On time renewal run rate is 15%. 30% for those renewing after 60 days of expiry.
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Vijaya Diagnostic
Expansion
Kolkata – Expect to breakeven within 12 months. It may take 1/2 quarter more
to breakeven compared to centers in AP&T, given its outside the core market.
Plan is to make it a home market in next 4-5 years. Target is to become leader
in this market. Vijaya is the first one to introduce such high end technologies in
whole of North Kolkata.
North Kolkata –doing more specialised work. Good response from doctors. Plan
is to grow slowly.
Taken price increase on few tests because of input cost increase. But only
contributes to 1% of revenues.
Net 50,000 footfalls from covid on YoY base. Adjusted for this, patient growth
was also in double digits. Moreover, recent digital initiatives have removed
inefficiency, by making single bill to patients even if the patients visit different
Vijaya centers for different tests.
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Hotels/Hospitality/Aviation
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Indian Hotels
Q1FY24
Industry
50% of the incremental supply is coming in Tier II and Tier III cities.
Hotel expansion
IHCL is well aware of the operations of Zambia. Plan a similar turnaround as the
Cape Town property.
Revenue initiatives
Ginger
Renovated/Lean Luxe Ginger are priced 30% higher than traditional Ginger
properties.
Management contracts
Management fees revenues has more than doubled to INR1bn in Q1FY24 vs.
Q1FY20.
Outlook
Company is seeing very good momentum even in the month of July. Also
normalization of international arrivals along with other events can keep
occupancies stable.
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InterGlobe Aviation
Q1FY24 management call: Key takeaways
Highest-ever revenue of INR558bn in Q1FY24
The management expects yield to dip sequentially in Q2FY24 by 10-15% given the
seasonal weakness, festivity plans, increase in capacity, increase in fuel cost and
resumption of grounded fleet.
The company has a robust order book of 980 aircrafts. This includes the largest order
placed for 500 aircraft in Jul23. Indigo aims to add ~500 aircraft by end of the decade
and the remaining ~500 by 2035.
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There is not any case of premium hotels having higher pricing power. It is a price
category wise demand supply situation. Events like G20 helped premium hotels
in Delhi.
Company
Q1FY24
In FY23 the focus was to reprice. Company increased rates by 50% vs. pre covid.
This led to a fall in occupancy. Focus this year is on building demand back at the
new price level.
By city
A very large portfolio in Bangalore is the Keys brand (380 rooms), which is still
struggling and that is dragging the city average.
According to STR occupancy of Udaipur market was 40% and LT had a 10%
premium. Company has outperformed its category set. LT believes the
performance of Aurika in H2FY24 will be significantly better. There are already
15 weddings, which have been booked. Each wedding gives INR10mn of EBITDA.
By segment
Aurika Mumbai
Lemon Tree Premier in Mumbai only became operational fully post covid. Initial
demand build-up happened at INR6,500 when the hotel launched in Oct 2019.
At present the hotel is doing INR8,500 at 90% occupancy. Typical pricing
difference between Lemon Tree Premier and 5 star is INR4,000.
Company has given a INR1.7bn EBITDA target and company believes that is
conservative. Company expects MIAL to be a significant contributor to EBITDA
from Q4FY24.
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Management contract
Fleur
Outlook
While for industry Q2 is the worst quarter, for LT Q2 is better than Q1.
Lemon Tree on standalone will be debt free in two years and Fleur will be debt
free 1.5 years after that.
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Home Decor
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Century Plyboards
Opening remarks
YoY- Held up the topline
Outlook
Plywood – 6-7% volume growth and 10% value growth with 14% EBITDA margins
Plywood
Commercial veneer as a segment is used only for internal consumption
Particleboard
Promising area for some time
More economical
Difference sizes
Capex
Capex plans:- Laminates slight delay to Q3FY24.
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Demand
Demand perspective:- interest rate increase has hurt the ability to convert from
home buying to building materials
Going forward, demand scenario is very robust. Real estate cycle helping.
Indian market size: Govt of India has been contemplating PLI in furniture.
MDF
Total capacity should increase by 30% in next 2 years.
OEM Mix: all the premium products of 34%- mostly going to OEMs.
Company will be able to export from the south plant. Currently cannot export
from its north plant.
Laminates
New prime and sainik laminates were launched
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Launch expense:
Particle board
Increase in Capex amount for particle board
Multiple small players. – costing of smaller players are higher than organised
players.
In automotive plants, the quantity is controlled and higher quality products can
be manufactured
Raw material
None of the players own any plantation.
Other players can have lesser density for MDF products- company doesn’t have
any plan for lighter MDFs
Timber prices: April saw a price drop and hence company had delayed the price
hike.
Timber prices have gone up in June(5%) and has gone up significantly thereafter.
Company has been able to take hikes only to the tune of timber price hikes.
Timber costs form 50% of total raw materials. Company has imported some raw
materials
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Greenlam Industries
Opening remarks
Company has retained prices
Demand
Overall demand scenario remains sluggish for domestic markets.
In export markets, the Indian manufacturers are acquiring some market share by
replacing the regional players.
Guidance
Management maintained their guidance of 25% revenue growth in FY24E.
Raw materials
Raw material prices have corrected
. Management believes that input cost will be remain at Q1 levels for FY24E.
Laminates
During the quarter company achieved highest production volume of 4.68mn
sheets. Port disturbance curbed the export.
Domestic volumes stood at 2.4mn sheets, growth of 29%YoY. In value terms the
same came in at INR2.38Bn, a growth of 13%YoY. Export volumes stood at 1.7mn
sheets, a decline of 8%YoY & 12%QoQ & in value terms the same was INR2.33Bn,
growth of 6%YoY & degrowth of 8%QoQ.
GP margins improved due to lower input cost & higher ASP lead by better
product-mixEBITDA margins did not expand on account of higher advertisement
spends & higher employee cost incurred during the quarter.
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Particle Board
For Particle Boards, Year-1 will be at 50% utilization & should be break-even at
EBITDA-level.
On PBT, first year will be a loss & from therafter management expects the same
to turn profitable.
Plywood
Plywood has been launched in southern India & company will price their
products at 2-4% discounts Vs other organized peers in the said market.
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Greenpanel Industries
Opening remarks
Plant shutdown in the quarter
INR 160mn spent on MDF expansion in Q1; total INR660mn spent on MDF
Outlook
Some pressure on demand side;
Additional supplies along with import prices falling hurt MDF- however, company
doesn’t expect them to be long lasting
Gross margins should be at this level. 58.1% in Overall as a 59.6% in MDF as long
as mix between domestic and export continues.
Value-added mix
Value added product share: 49% in Q1FY23-51%in Q4FY23-54% in Q1FY24
Plywood
Plywood guidance:
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OEM
Just started focusing on OEM segment. Can start seeing the effect in Q2FY24.
Export
Company is deliberately curtailing export volumes due to pricing pressures.
Cost of export material and industrial grade is same. Realisation of export grade
will be lower.
Plant shutdown
This plant shutdown: long term worn-out part was to be changed
Capital allocation
Distribution of cash on the BS depends on the business condition
Exploring other business but at nascent stage. No concrete plans at this time
Capex
Spent approx. INR670mn till date. No borrowings as yet
Of the INR6bn capex- INR2.6bn to be serviced by debt and rest via internal
accrual
Fixed Asset TurnOver to increase to 1.3/1.4 when share of value added increases
Raw material
Inventory days high: timber availability has been muted and keeping in mind
monsoon season(no harvest of timber)
Q1FY23: timber North INR4.9; South INR3.06 and Q1FY24: timber North INR5.68;
South INR9.65
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Imports
Primary importers: retailing in local markets and OEM, majority in thick mdf
segment
7-8% price lower for a particular segment of MDF. This we are doing by reducing
timber and increasing resins
Imports are sort of stable at this quantity. Supplies to India are dependent on
realisation in the rest of the world.
MDF
Vol growth of 12-15% guidance maintained
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Greenply Industries
Opening remarks
Realisation has improved by 3%. Better product mix helped contribute.
Company maintains the 10% plywood volume growth guidance for FY24.
Remarks on Q1
Timber prices continue to remain elevated across the country.
Guidance
Volume growth in plywood business for FY24: 10%
Outlook
Growth is sub-optimal.
Raw Materials
Extent of increase in timber prices: QoQ: 10% expected in Q2FY24
Timber remains a challenge- don’t expect prices to come down in the next 6/9
months
When new plantations come into play 5-6quarters, prices might stabilize
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MDF
100,000cbm volumes in FY24: MDF volume guidance
Company does not plan any export revenue from MDF segment
Very difficult to predict MDF prices. Interior grade is non-value-added; rest all is
value added
ADD in MDF: Company is not eligible because it is not two year old. Greenply is
not taking into cognizance of the ADD
The MDF line can produce both thick and thin MDFs. 1.55mm to 35mm
thickness. Any size that the market demand
Brand Greenply will attract MDF. Plant in west also adds to the advantage.
Plywood
Pricing is at par with competition. In certain markets, 1-2% cheaper than
competition (like in NCR)
Capex
Company plans to enter into a 50:50 JV - INR300/400mn to be spent over two-
three years.
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Debt
Borrowing has grown gradually in the quarter. INR520–530mn to sustain
throughout the FY24
Gabon
Investment in Gabon(working capital): INR2.55/2.60bn
Company not very bullish on it. Demand side not exciting as of now
Miscellaneous
Other sales related costs have also gone up
Budgeted ad spends for FY24: 3-3.5% of Sales (Plywood, Sandila and MDF).
A&P spends in Q1FY24: 4.8% of the total sales for the quarter
NWC: 40-41 days; company expects to remain in this range. Due to rainy season,
some amount of inventory is held with the company
Bareily plant not working in the favour of the company. New lines for some
products didn’t work out
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Kajaria Ceramics
Opening remarks
New launches Real estate in previous year will push volumes growth in H2FY24.
First Quarter was slow due to subdued demand in April and May.
o Adhesives revenue-INR100mn
NWC = 62Days
Guidance
- Volume growth:13-15%
- Revenue growth:14-16%
- EBITDA: 14/16%
Outlook
Excessive heavy rainfalls all over the country have hurt July month.
Manufacturing volumes was down because Sikandrabad was shut down for
upgradation. Plant was shutdown for the whole quarter.
Large slabs- high value products. North plant will also start producing.
Demand
Demand was subdued
Ad spends have increased- which will help the company in achieving the target
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Exports
INR 48bn of export by the tile industry in Q1FY24
Fuel prices
Average Fuel Prices INR39; Q2 also same line
Q1FY24:
o North:INR39;
o South: INR44;
o West: INR37
Morbi gas price (per scm): INR41 (including tax) and Propane is INR41.6.
Brand spends
Q1 Ad Spends: INR260mn
Industry
After September, things will be better.
Plywood
Plywood: FY23 revenues: INR770mn, FY24 target is INR1bn
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Adhesives
Adhesives revenues: INR100mn in Q1FY24
Nepal
Nepal profit-FY25- INR150mn
Capex
Capex FY24E: INR 3.7bn
o Sikandrabad INR700mn
o Nepal-INR900mn
o Bathware is INR800mn
Pricing
Pricing for Kajaria have been stable. Some trade benefits will be given to dealers.
Pricing differential is 6-10 from second players and 20-25% differential with
Morbi (fallen from 40-45% pre-gst)
JV and Outsourcing
JV: didn’t do well in last; This year it should INR400/500mn+
In JVs, massive reduction of fuel costs have been passed on to the JVs. Generally
PVT is manufactured from JVs
PVT is outsourced from Morbi- those are value added and hence the outsourced
realisation is higher than Own manufactured realisation.
Miscellaneous
Currently: 1840dealers; target is 2000dealers. 500 Exclusive Kajaria dealers
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Prince Pipes
Opening remarks
During the quarter, operations were disrupted.
Water tanks vertical: started inhouse manufacturing last fiscal; Scaling the tanks
business further.
5,000 tickets will be distributed across India by Prince to distributors and retailers
for OMG2.
Volume outlook
July volumes have been encouraging.
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Margin outlook
13-14% is a fair estimate; the company is still aiming higher.
Product mix, operating leverage and cost absorption along with new and
innovative products will help expand margins.
Industry
Reals estate continues to do well.
Bathware segment
Investing in the right people, branding (because they are front of the wall
vertical) and extensive distribution network.
INR150bn industry- 65% is organised- it should grow double digit in the near
future.
Company-specific
Plumbing has grown in double digits.
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Company’s investment in branding has helped the pricing power of the company.
Infrastructure projects
Infra projects – DWC and HDPE; company is careful about the receivable days
and doesn’t want to stretch at the moment. (3-5% of total revenues).
HDPE: Jaipur and Hyderabad- will expand at Hyderabad and the new Biharplant.
DWC: Large part for Prince; launched in 2017- past 2/3 years has seen very strong
volume CAGR.- only solution replace cement pipes.
Value-added products
Value added products: CPVC and PPR and PVC fittings.
CPVC-20/25% of revenues.
PPR-4/5% of revenues.
Channel financing
No of dealers: 132 (from 70s).
Enrolment is in progress.
Inventory
Inventory loss – INR100mn in the quarter.
Demand
Buoyancy in demand will continue in agri and infrastructure.
CPVC
CPVC prices have been softening.
There is more room for correction- this augurs well in the long term.
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The company doesn’t sell to Govt directly. Company supplies only through
channel.
Plumbing
Q1 volumes were affected.
Capacity
Utilisation has been 50-55% on installed capacity.
Telangana has seen good utilisation (35-40% after being set up).
323FY23-350FY24E-390FY26E.
PVC prices
Expected to remain range bound going ahead.
ERP disruption
The ERP disruption in April and beginning of May.
Ad spends
Ad spends: QFY24: INR120mn.
Capex
Largely for bottlenecking at existing plants and new plant in Bihar.
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Long term- company will produce all kind of pipes in Bihar- water tanks will start
from day 1.
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Somany Ceramics
Opening remarks
There has been pressure in the market
The plant was not working at maximum utilisation and had been shut for 3-4
months.
Q1FY24: Net dealer addition: 50+ & Net showroom addition: 25+
Outlook
FY24 Volume guidance: double digit
Industry
ADD on Chinese products in India.
Freight rate and gas rates increased in January 2023- leading to fall in exports.
Currently, INR1.7/1.8bn exports from Morbi- the plants are getting utilised
o Large capacities of wall tiles are lying unutilised. Morbi land is getting
expensive.
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Gas prices
Plant wise Gas prices in Q1FY24:
o Morbi: INR43
o North: INR46
o South: INR60
o South: INR50
o North: INR41
o Morbi: INR40
Blended INR 45: Q1FY24; INR 50: Q4FY23; INR 61: Q1FY23
Fuel cost
Margins should improve 50 bps because of fuel savings
4 plants running on propane; Propane gas was just little bit lower than natural
gas during the quarter
Fuel sourcing: Buy spot only in South; Buy GSPCL(3m) in West; Buy from
Gail(25Yr) and IGX(spot trading) in North
Product mix
PVT: decline by 2%
GVT: improvement by 2%
Ceramic: decline by 1/2%
GVT should be above 35% in FY24E
Company-specific
Company focused on retails
Project includes: private real estate developers- 75% is retail: 7% is pvt builder;
2% is exports; 1% organised retail and 15% to Government
Company has not taken any serious cuts on MRP. Last correction was from
excise to GST
Only 6-7% to real estate projects
Company can save more days in working capital days
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Utilisation
Capacity Utilisation in Q1FY24:-
o Tile: 70%
o Sanitaryware: 58%:
o Faucet: 70%
Brand
2.5%+ brand spend
Demand
Post Diwali, major pickup
Capex
Early Q3- large sized tiles
Margin
YoY: 1.2% gross margin expansion
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Supreme Industries
Opening remarks
PVC prices: Polymer prices witnessed a downward bias and continue to fall,
albeit in range bound manner. During the quarter, prices of various polymers fell
INR5 to INR8 per kg, except for polypropylene, which fell off INR13 per kg,
causing moderate inventory losses across product segments.
New product: The Company has taken in hand a project to make PVC window &
Doors at its’ newly acquired 32 acres site 15km away from Kanpur (U.P.). The
initial capacity planned will be 10,000 Tons per annum. The Company intends to
sell window profile & complete window from this site. Later on Company will put
up window making facilities at several of its’ manufacturing sites. The envisaged
investment in this project will be about INR1.6bn and after attaining full capacity,
the company may add additional turnover of about INR3.5bn annually in this
segment.
New products in pipes: The company is ready to seize the business opportunities
and continues to commit desired investment. During the year Company has plans
to add 4 additional systems viz. (i) PP multilayer silent pipe system (ii) Gas Piping
system (iii) PE/AL/PE piping system and (iv) PPR pipe system for Industrial
applications along with its existing 36 Systems in its’ flagship Plastics Piping
Business.
Value added products in packaging films: The company continues to focus more
on Made-up product sales from Cross Laminated Film which would help in better
realizations and improved profitability. Company’s Plan to introduce newly
developed Cross Plastic Film is progressing well and plant with a capacity of 2500
MT per annum should be in operation by end of FY 24.
Furniture: The company’s furniture business is expected to grow well during the
year backed by softening of PP prices and introduction of several premium
products in the range. The Company has 244 no. of show rooms as on 30th
June,2023 and are being added regularly where quality furniture produced by
the Company is available.
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Composite LPG Cylinder division continues to supply new age composite LPG
Cylinders to Indian Oil Corporation against its LOI as per schedule being received.
It is also pursuing vigorously with other oil marketing companies for promoting
Composite Cylinders in domestic market showcasing the safety to human life
what they provide. Efforts continue to expand geographical reach and add new
customers, which is a lengthy process due to nature of the product.
Inventory loss
INR400mn loss
INR3/kg loss
Volumes
Last year Q1FY23 was very weak
This year Q1FY24 growth was driven by Agri and Infrastructure segment
Incremental growth coming in from East – now the company has three plants
Industry
Overall market size was 4.2 mn tonnes (65% organised sector)
Demand
Housing demand is growing strong and is expected to remain strong
Seeing strong demand from Infra segment also, that’s expected to remain strong
Guidance
20% Plus overall volume growth
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Government business
Doing Govt business only with Maharastra govt
Apart from that doing Composite cylinder with govt led PSU
PVC prices
PVC Prices started firming up already
Volatility will always remain in PVC prices but not as much as FY21
Margins
14.27% PVC margins impacted by inventory loss and product mix change towards
agri and infra segment (mainly Nal se Jal)
Nal se Jal
INR4.8bn in 30 months period Maharashtra government order.
Low-margin business
Guidance on this segment is too early to give and the company believes let
production start first
Channel Inventory
Normal to lower side of inventory
CPVC
12% contraction in CPVC
North and East contraction was more especially due to counterfeit products
Most of the companies facing competition from counterfeit products
Taken legal action also and won also but in the process lost volumes
But management is confident of recovering the volumes
In plumbing, company has definitely seen growth
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CPVC prices
Prices have started going down
Water tanks
Demand is very strong
Simpolin
From this year, the product will get into value-added segment
Composite cylinder
Expanded capacity in Feb 2023 only
Supreme Petrochem
Inventory loss hit performance in Q1FY24
Plastic pipes
Investments being made this may be available only next year including industrial
pipes, etc
Money will be invested this year, growth will come next year
Utilisation
Against 200,000 tonnes quarterly capacity, produced 150,000 tonnes, which is
75% utilisation
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Venus Pipes
Opening remarks
FY23 special year – IP and expanded capacity
Robust performance
SS industry
Seeing shift towards organised led by ADD,
New Capacity
Adding 400 MT p.m this month
SS pipes, Lsaw- 56 inch pipes. Highest proportion will be 56 inch pipes. 80% of oil
and gas demand will be from 56 inch pipes.
Q1FY24 performance
Higher demand for seamless.
Revenue for welded flat because of fall in realisation due to fall in raw materials
Decline of 13-15% in welded realisation.
% of seamless:40-50%: volume terms 50-60% will be welded
Highest ever revenue; it increased by 58%.
Inquires continue.
Volume growth: 25% QoQ in Q1FY24
Margins
Backward integration
Guidance
FY24: 70% utilisation of 33600MT. (improving guidance)
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Exports
With backward integration, exports should increase a lot
Europe
European economic situation:- last 24 month, numerous challenges
New player sees big gestation period which for Venus pipes is over
With new capacities, export should be able to see good traction in volumes.
Great traction from demand after ADD on Chinese imports; more pressure can
be sustained.
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Miscellaneous
Other players LSAW facility are for carbon steel. SS Lsaw plant is at par with other
players.
Venus plans to stick to its piercing line. Piercing is accepted in domestic and
international market
Exports market
Backward integration of follow pipes
Trying to penetrate the export market. Chemicals industry is affected but the
company leverages other industries
Very good demand from USA and African market, apart from Europe.
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IT
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Birlasoft
Revenue cross USD150mn mark for the first time in history. It includes USD2mn
in revenue from Invacare.
Deal wins: Signed TCV of USD146mn. Management expects deal flow to improve
materially in the coming quarters. Deal flows are generally lumpy. Some of the
projects slipped to Q2. They expect Q2 booking to be higher than Q1. Pipeline is
growing and they have not lost any deal to competition. They see growth
momentum across Top 20 accounts, which grew 2.7% QoQ.
BFSI business is very small for them and not correct to compare it with their
peers. They work with payment services companies; Financial services
Infrastructure companies among others. Impact due to slowdown in banking
vertical do not affect them as they do not have big banking clients yet but want
to work with the larger banks going forward. T
hey have reclassified life science business as Life sciences and services, means
any company that deliver services to Life Sciences clients or to the end client are
now reclassified under life sciences and services. They expect life science and
Manufacturing to continue to grow going forward.
ERP services line: ERP business saw shrinking QoQ for almost eight quarters and
now it is bottoming out. They will see growth going forward. They have hired
leadership across verticals. They have seen strong interest in ERP and
Infrastructure after change in leadership and well positioned to capture market
share in ERP business.
M&A: They will be focusing on exaction for couple of quarters. Management will
not acquire for revenue aggregation but will only acquire for capabilities.
Leadership addition: One level below CXO leadership is hired. They are in the
process of hiring a Chief Operating Officer and will have COO on board soon.
Also, looking to hire head of the RoW business vertical.
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Coforge
Segmental performance: BFS and Insurance were the key growth contributor.
Insurance registered second consecutive quarter of strong growth. Other
verticals saw good growth momentum. They continue to see banks struggling
with decisions in the short to medium term given the uncertain macros. They
continue to observe macro very closely for the time being.
America grew by 5.6% sequentially while EMEA remained flat. They saw strong
growth across their top customers during the quarter. Management talked about
their resilient performance under an uncertain macro environment by their
continued ability to expand their footprint within their key accounts. The
offshore revenue saw further pickup and stood at 51% of the total revenues once
again. Retail and commercial outside mortgages do seem to be seeing a slight
uptick. Asset Wealth Management continues to be resilient, but overall the
sector is still in a wait and watch mode.
Margins: Gross margin increased by 30bp YoY while SG&A increased by 80bp YoY
reflecting a 50bp decline in margin YoY. Margin decline QoQ was in-line with
their usual quarterly margin progression through the year. Management remains
confident on their annual margin guidance of 18.3% adjusted EBITDA.
Deal: Sixth consecutive quarter of more than USD300mn with an order intake at
USD531mn during the quarter. US contributed USD155mn, EMEA was at
USD346mn and ROW at USD30mn to order intake. Signed USD300mn large deal
with an existing BFS customer. Furthermore, another USD65million with more
than 50% of it representing new business signed with an existing customer again
in the BFS space.
Generative AI: Management highlighted four small Gen AI based projects. They
are keeping an eye on their BPO business. Testing is one of the area where AI
based interventions may disrupt revenue streams. Embedding AI into all their
service offerings. They have a core team of around 1,000-trained AI specialists
across the hyperscalers and the partner platforms. On net basis, they believe AI
to be growth contributor.
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Cyient
Reclassification: Cyient have reclassified reporting into three-business segments
– DET, DLM and Others.
DET (Digital, Engineering & Technology) includes erstwhile Services and Small
engineering part business, which was part of DLM earlier (USD0.9mn revenue,
0.5% of DET revenue).
Others, which includes Aerospace tooling business, which was earlier in DLM.
This is the business, which it will consider carving out in future.
Segments: Transportation grew 3.5% QoQ, airline and MRO continue to look
strong. Connectivity effected by wireless operated business shrunk.
Sustainability grew 4.5% QoQ organically. New Growth Areas decline of 6.5%
QoQ, decline can be attributed due to Hi-tech and Semi-con de-growth while
demand in Automotive remain strong. Healthcare was strong, expect healthcare
to rebound in H2FY24.
All three-sub segment in Aero has growing really well. Air passenger miles are
back to 2019 level. Management remain positive on aero travel side. On Defence
side, they have seen growth as countries around the world has increased
investment on defence post Russia-Ukraine war. Their goal is to grow all these
sub segment in double digit.
They have seen softness in wireless business. Across the Communication services
providers spending is muted. However, they are seeing continuous spending on
wireline side supported by Government spending around RDOF & BEAD
programs. They expect Hi-Tech to remain flat in FY24. Semiconductor demand
for automotive is strong while they see softness from Consumer / data centre.
The legal suit in US, on Cyient, by its ex-employee has been dismissed.
Margin performance: EBIT margin was 16.1%, grew 93bps QoQ and 327bps YoY.
Increased by continued improved in SG&A cost, which was result of previous cost
saving initiative. Utilization is at 86% on like for like basis.
They have seen some delay in the area of discretionary spends where they can
defer and not necessarily significant.
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eClerx
Revenue impacted by macro headwinds esp. in larger client on digital side of the
business.
Margin decline larger than usual was due to wage hike, sales hiring onsite and
revenue decline. There is also some one-off cost (0.6%).
Capex was higher due to starting of campus in Airoli. Expect increase in attrition
in Q2, will be lower than usual Q2 attrition.
They are working on Gen-AI esp. on Digital and customer engagement side. They
are going more than 30 POC. They see Gen-AI as huge opportunity for us.
They do not see Gen-AI to have any major impact on them on short to medium
term. It is actually an opportunity for them, to enhance end user experience. In
customer operation, demand they are seeing on Cx side.
There is no insourcing challenges as of now. They had some roll offs in Q1 and
Q4 but not seeing anything large.
Work in area of Trade process and Trade lifecycle. There is loose link to trading
volume. However, changes in regulation is larger driving factor for them.
Certain percentage of business rolls off due to short-term work. Sometime, client
chose to defocus on area. Historically, there is certain percentage of work which
roll offs every year. Second bucket of roll offs happens usually due to some
corporate event. There was bunching of these events between FY16-FY19 which
impacted eClerx’s growth. These are unpredictable in nature – can happen
anytime.
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FirstSource Solutions
Revenue decline of 1.6% was in-line with their expectations.
Mortgages was 9% of revenue vs 17% a year ago. Mortgage business has now
stabilized as volumes have bottom out. They believe worst of the volatility is
behind them. Outlook for Mortgage remain unchanged. The origination volumes
inched up slightly in the last few months, their clients expect refi activity to pick
up only after the Fed reversed direction on interest rate movement. Housing
demand remains strong in US.
Client metrics: Client addition remains strong this quarter; added 10 new clients
with 4 in Foreign BFS, 5 in healthcare and 1 in CMT. They continue to engage
their mortgage clients of strategic cost saving program and they had a very solid
sales quarter. Management highlighted addition of 2 new clients and expansion
of 3 existing auto plant clients this quarter. They have further cemented with Top
clients and signed them as primary partner for the next 10 years. They will be
moving 3% of the Top client’s revenue to offshoring. Deal win Top client will be
margin accretive in nature.
CMT segment saw 7% YoY growth CC, despite of offshore to onshore movement.
Outside of Top 10 clients, overall growth remains strong.
In UK, BFS performance remains strong. However, the pace of growth is slower
than last year due to combination of lower volumes across the industry given the
challenging economic environment and some movement from onshore to off
shore. UK economy has seen some slowdown while US industry remains strong.
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HCL Technologies
HCL had seasonally soft Quarter. Services business revenue performance was
lower than HCL’s expectations.
Service lines: IT and business services shows good momentum, most of which
were offset by reduction in discretionary spend on digital. ERD business
continues to be soft driven by large verticals.
Gen AI: Approach to Gen AI has driven by engineering and innovation. HCL
highlighted to be an early adopter of Gen AI, integrating AI within silicon to
infrastructure, apps, data and business processes.
Bookings were lower than last few quarters. Expect some spike in coming
quarters, which will make up for the drop in the current quarter. Pipeline
continue to grow. Last two quarters have seen jump in efficiency led programs.
Services EBIT margins decline by 120bps with headwind of 10bps from currency
and utilization contributed about 36bps, Travel and other cost contributed
headwind of 33bps. Had one time benefit in previous quarter, which contributed
headwind of 42bps.
Most of the conversations around Gen AI is more innovation-led and one of the
benefits regarding efficiency, which can lead to deflation but it is 2-3 years away.
They believe it will get offset with many projects. We have 140 projects related
to Gen AI. Expect to see some uptick in small projects.
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Infosys
Large deals: Infosys won large deal of USD2.3bn of which 56% was net new.
Value of deals for financial services was 50% of the overall large deal value in Q1.
Infosys announced a mega deal of USD2bn value after the close of Q1. Their
pipeline of deal wins is strong. Topaz, AI and Generative AI are resonating well
with clients.
Generative AI: Infosys highlighted working on 80 Gen AI projects for their clients.
Have trained 40,000 employees on generative AI as they see opportunities for
new work and productivity improvements through this technology.
Large and regional banking clients in US were resilient this quarter. Financial
Institutions are looking to outsource the non-core business while delayed
decision-making impacted growth.
Operating margin decline by 20bps QoQ with 70bp benefit came from
improvement in cost efficiency, which more than offset by 90bps headwind from
increase in higher variable pay and promotion. Infosys have some headroom to
improve margin further.
Demand environment: They are very positive on Cloud and now with generative
AI. These are resonating well with their clients. Constraint is weak macro
environment. Macro environment is affecting overall in Europe. Financial
Services and the sub-segments there in telco and in some parts of retail, those
impacted in Europe.
Guidance: Infosys cut its guidance to 1–3.5% YoY due to a mega deal wins overall
traction and cost efficiency automation and differentiated digital cloud and
generative AI capabilities. Growth lowered due to lower mega deal wins and
longer ramp-up time. Guidance cut was due to change in demand environment
for discretionary and transformation work. They have also seen delay in closure
of large deal-wins and ramp-up of closed deal-wins.
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Plant Engineering: Vertical was impacted by supply delay and delay in design
decision making. Expect it to bounce back from Q2, have seen some
improvement in decision making in June-July. Expect growth in Q2 and beyond.
EBIT margin was slightly down organically due to investment on ramping up deal.
SWC has lower margin profile, due to which reported margin came in at 17.2%.
This quarter other expense was lower due to sub-con cost and lower legal cost.
Don’t expect Other expense to increase or decrease from current level as % of
revenue.
It expect to achieve 17% EBIT level in FY24and aspire to improve EBIT margin to
17.5% by H1FY26.
DSO on organically basis were 92 days vs 90 days in Q4FY23. Combined DSO came
in at 117 days within guided range of 115-120 days.
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LTIMindtree
Q1 played out the way LTIMindtree expected. Some of the aspects of delay and
hiring freeze which LTIM expected to go by the end of Q1 but that did not
happen.
Segmental: BFSI grew 12.1% YoY, this vertical is showing resilience despite of
macro challenges and have seen deal wins from vendor consolidation. Some
clients are continuing with hiring freeze and delay in decision-making.
Retail and CPG is seeing long-term commitment from client like roll out of ERP
platform. TTH is experiencing robust demand for leisure travel, although,
corporate travel is yet to pick up. Impact in ROW slowdown is client specific. Lot
of apprehensions is there in Retail, LTIM will wait and watch this vertical and do
not see any radical sign of recovery here. Media and Entertainment is shifting to
AI based products.
In Hi-Tech, some of the closure they had in previous quarters has started to ramp
up in Q1. Deal activity in Hi-Tech is healthy. LTIM is much more bullish in terms
of activity they are seeing in Hi-tech. Most of the Hi-Tech clients will start their
financial year in July so LTIM will check for trend of spending.
Continue to see good sales activity and a healthy win ratio, resulting in a robust
deal pipeline. At the same time, continue to see delays in decision-making and
hiring phases.
They are not seeing budget flush kind of scenario. Clients are focusing on ROI
based investment or where there is a need from a risk and compliance
perspective. If client sees stability in interest rate regime, they might start
increase their spending on tech. Managed Services contract are building and
providing long term growth visibility as soon as LTIM sees some growth in
discretionary spend, overall growth can accelerate given there would be no
headwinds.
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Persistent Systems
Revenue growth: Services revenue grew 2.7% QoQ and IP revenue grew 8% QoQ.
Persistent continue to delivery top quartile growth despite of challenging macro
environment. It remains cautiously optimistic about growth outlook.
Deal wins: Deal-wins were bit lower due to some of them slipped to next quarter.
It has increased investment in S&M to support growth and investing in new tech
growth area like Gen-AI. It expect ACV and TCV will reflect that in coming
quarters. Pipeline remain good but decision making slow and will continue to
remain slow in the next 1-2 quarters.
Margins: Higher provision impacted margin by 10bp and higher travelling and
office opening charger impacted by 20bp. Wage hike is fully implemented from
1st July. Have enough levers to improve margins using many lever including
increasing utilization and operating leverage among others.
Rational to open offices in Tier 2 and Tier 3 cities was based on employee’s home
location and talent pool availability.
Macro impact: Not every customer is getting impacted equally. Clients are
communicating that next 1-2 quarters are tough then they expect to invest.
During the last few months, it has seen some pullback rather than acceleration
in spends.
Segmental colour: BFSI came strong but next few quarters it might be soft.
Within Healthcare, it deals in four areas: payer, provider, pharma and scientific
equipment. Scientific Equipment client benefited from Covid are now seeing
slowdown.
Top client: Top client to be stable customer going forward. It is at decent margin
given its revenue contribution. Top client is already working on its own AI
strategy.
Gen-AI: In Gen-AI target is to train 16k employees. Also leveraging Gen-AI tech
across organization internally. It is in discussion with 50+ clients on Gen-AI.
Expect Gen-AI adoption to increase significantly in the next 3-4 quarters.
On M&A Front: Have full integrated acquired companies and is active again on
M&A front, will update in coming quarters.
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Redington
Solid execution across businesses and geographies. Continue to gain share in
markets and secure new opportunities
Delivery has been broad based and with growth across all geographies
PAT down due to interest costs and factoring charges. Largely impacted in ROW
Demand robust for data center infrastructure products network and cloud
products
Although inflation cooling off, it remains high in most parts of the world. Cost of
capital has gone up
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Will continue to use levers to improve margins like utilization. Margin will
improve during the course of the year similar trajectory like previous periods.
LTM attrition declined to 17.8%. Attrition will be back in historical range in H2.
See most caution in North America while UK continue to remain strongest geo.
Ignio saw 37 new deal wins and 26 go-live; TCS BaNCS had 7 new wins and 8 go-
live; Quartz jas one go live; TCS OmniStore, one win and one go-live; HOB one
win and one go-live; iON saw, 23 wins and 24 go-live
Want to create talent pool of 100k employees on Gen AI. Partnering with all
hyperscalers.
Won two deal in UK public sector, further enforcing our presence in UK market.
Not hear concern related to banking crisis. Large banks actually benefited from
this.
While demand is still good but client are reviewing project underway. Project
where there is not clear ROI – next phase of the project is put on pause.
Client are seeing challenges due to macro uncertainty at the same time they see
gaps to fill in their tech adoption.
Client are taking month on month approach, which is leading to limited visibility.
Client are coming back with reduced scope. Flavour of the quarter is Generative
AI. Every conversion with client, we have this discussion on Gen AI. Working on
50 proof of work.
Everybody is curious about Gen AI value but it is not yet impacted our deals. Time
to market will be redefined by Gen AI. All the tech adoption previously has led to
increase in scope of work which led to even more employee addition. Multiple
teams with many verticals are trying to use this tech. We are executing 50
projects.
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Tech Mahindra
Mohit (CEO Designate): TechM had a challenging quarter. He remain very
optimistic in medium to long term. They are still in 4-5 months of transition
period.
Sub-contractor costs: Sub con cost was 16% of revenue and now reduced to 14%
over the last 3-4 quarters and management will continue to work to get to 10%
and below. They end up replacing sub con with a full time headcount. 100bps cut
in sub con cost leads to 25bps in savings.
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Wipro
Q1 was another quarter of strong deal wins. Had highest booking in 8 quarters.
Added 2 new account in USD100mn+ bracket taking total to 21. USD100mn+
account doubled in the last 2.5 years.
Wipro is winning more deal than ever before and has been consistent for the last
3-4 quarters. There is reduction in discretionary spends. Clients have budget but
they were slow in deploying and this year is turning out to be better than
expected. Market is not dramatically different from what they saw in last
quarter.
Wipro mentioned higher discretionary spend in two of its acquisition, Capco and
Rizing. Wipro highlighted that it is winning against their competitors that their
strategy is really paying off.
Except for consulting rest of the service line, continue to perform very well and
in-line with overall growth rate of the company.
AI can and will change fundamental of every model. Wipro had delivered 2000
AI engagement. They are using Gen-AI for multiple use cases and will train their
entire workforce on AI in next 12 months.
Gen-AI is fundamental shift in the way every businesses operate. Wipro expects
greater and greater efficiency in every sector and vertical. They see significant
productivity improvement for customer as well as in their internal operations.
Majority of the USD1bn investment on AI will be organic. Will be investing in
research, capabilities, investment in Wipro ventures, platforms training as well
as M&A.
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Zensar Technologies
Segmental performance: Zensar highlighted good traction in the Europe region
from both long-standing and new clients’ perspective. Good growth momentum
in South Africa. Their sustained focus through their data experience engineering
and cloud mix has led to a steady growth. They are witnessing consistent growth
in BFSI over the last few quarters aided by new deal wins at some of their key
clients. They see softness in the overall demand environment of Hi-tech,
Manufacturing and consumer services vertical.
Order book: Management track order based on renewal, new client and existing
client (new business). Existing client (new business) had best wins. Order book at
USD154mn supported by healthy renewal and new deal wins.
They have very small market share in BFSI therefore less impacted by macro
changes. Clients are looking to work with smaller IT Services providers, which can
deliver at lower price points.
Clients continue to differ or optimize their capital spend and scaled back their
budgets. This has resulted in reprioritization of spend at client sides.
Discretionary projects witnessing a reduction in scope as they are getting
deferred.
Management mentioned cross selling is working well for them. They have
opened nine new accounts, which is slightly more on run rate basis. They are
seeing lot of traction on experience services due to cross selling. They are seeing
traction in Enterprise SaaS and advance engineering services. Newer service
offerings will see faster growth.
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Info Edge
Business highlights
Recruitment – Naukri
CFO at INR2.06bn
CFO of INR-400mn
Billing growth has been good and reflects positive sentiment in real estate
market
Matrimony - Jeevansathi
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New products for monetization has shown some traction. Will continue to
monitor
Education - Shiksha
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Zomato
Q How much was IPL impact on food delivery GOV growth? Similar impact from
the World Cup?
A IPL doesn’t have too much impact except few matches towards fag end.
Seasonality has to do with the school holidays. Four years ago business was very
different and don’t have enough data points. Do expect some upside from world cup
A Business deals with wide variety. AOV tends to move with seasons. Were also
supply constraint. There are seasonal changes in consumption patterns, which also
drives AOV. There will be variability in AOV
Q Reason for QoQ drop in employee expenses, excluding ESOP? Is there a annual
hike?
A Largely a function of rightsizing done in the December quarter. Last quarter had
severance payouts. Cycle is July to July. Impact in Q2 of annual hike
Q Any changes implemented on Blinkit? Have delivery costs per order changed in
Blinkit?
A Changes in April were to bring all delivery partners at same earnings levels.
Delivery cost did not change significantly during the quarter. Most of the
improvement in contribution on operating leverage of fixed assets
Q What were the risky bets called out in shareholder letter?
A Changes on people side and changes to drive growth with Zomato Gold.
A Don’t give break out for product categories. Always looking to bring more
convenience. Increasing size of portfolio where products can be made available in
10 minutes
A Delivery changes were not significant and don’t expect it to change materially
going forward. Disruptions were due to misunderstanding. Some of the stores were
shut for few days. Had weaker April and May but have recovered
A Yes and in this quarter too growth was driven by user growth
A Not at this point of time, but will reconsider as business scales and competitive
dynamics change
Q Where contribution margin should settle for 4-5% Adjusted EBITDA food
delivery?
A In the past have spoken about 8% contribution margin but with operating leverage
can get 4-5% adjusted ebitda margin even with bit lower contribution margin
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A Growing in core restaurants business and also supplying to sellers on Blinkit. Have
taken some initiatives on technology side for getting some synergies but as of now
not actively. Making sure that both the business scale well with adequate drivers
Q What instils confidence of 40% adjusted revenue growth with nominal GDP
growth of 10%? Is this organic growth?
A 40% guidance is for overall revenue level. Even for last few quarters, have grown
north of 50% YoY. Some businesses will grow faster than others. Yes, 40% growth is
organic guidance.
A QSR contributes single digit % of business. Most of the business is through small
restaurants and outlet chains. No reason to believe that shouldn’t be able to grow
well.
Q Shouldn’t there be bit of stress restaurants are facing with increase in food
inflation
A Restaurants are spending aggressively for ad on the platform and this has also led
to increase in take rates. Small restaurants also take up increase in prices.
A Confident of getting there in few quarters but difficult to say if it will be linear.
Q Are 100 new stores addition guidance in the new cities or increasing depth in the
existing cities?
A Most of the new store additions in the existing geographies. These are where there
are high level polygons with strong volumes.
A Not saying that Going out (Dine in + Live) will not be on Zomato app. Still
experimenting. Don’t have a firm view for now.
A Large increase in take rates of food delivery because of ad sales as restaurants are
spending. Ads also meaningful driver of revenue expansion in Blinkit with journey
less mature than food delivery.
A Yes these events do have hyperlocal impact. Gurgaon had some impact last few
days.
A GOV per store depends more if it is for new locations. In the high order density
locations expect demand to increase faster. Number of factors to consider like the
polygon.
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A Organisation is right sized. September quarter will have impact of annual hike.
Should grow at some multiple of inflation.
A AOVs are slightly higher for Gold and ordering frequency is also higher.
A Food inflation is impacting restaurants but as they get impacted they also spend
on advertisement on the platforms.
A Hard to say when it will normalise. There are pockets when investments need to
be made. Won’t be able to put specific number on investment and where it is likely
to go
A It’s a business call and will take evaluate if it is needed for the business
A Largely new restaurants have been added. Every quarter some shut down and
many open up. Some geographies not adequately penetrated. Those also add up to
the total restaurants
A This is not specific strategy that is being deployed. Don’t necessarily use the fleet
for other use cases or entities.
Q Levers for moving adjusted EBITDA of Blinkit towards profitability. Could you
quantify ad sales are volume led or price led?
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PVR INOX
Regional movies’ share
The company needs to grow more in southern regions in order to garner a higher
share in total regional films. Southern films travel deep into southern centers and
thus company should focus more on southern regions.
40-45% of total screen additions are in south Indian region alone. Company
entered in new cities such as Nazamabaad this year.
In large cities in South, company has also been working with newer properties.
Synergies
Ticket synergy benefits are expected to kick in from the Q2/Q3/Q4, while the
synergy benefits from F&B are already on track.
F&B revenue
Menus have been changed and new items have been added.
Company has received fantastic response on trailer show; has received 22%
occupancy in these shows.
Almost 40% of the customers, have been noticed to book ticket for at least one
of the movies (which were screened in theatre)
Volatility in Hindi box office has reduced considerably. Hollywood films, which
have been low last year, have been compensated.
The quarter witnessed a muted start in April, with limited movie releases in Hindi.
The box office picked up pace in the month of May with the release of, ‘The
Kerala Story’ which turned out to be the biggest release of this quarter along with
other super hits such as ‘Fast X’ and ‘Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3’ from
Hollywood, and ‘2018’ from Malayalam.
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Q1FY24 saw the release of the highest number of Hollywood movies post-
pandemic, which, combined with a robust performance at the Box Office, led to
an impressive growth of 70% in QoQ box office collections for Hollywood films.
There is robust content line-up across languages in FY24. Upcoming release slate
includes several highly anticipated Hindi movies such as ‘Oh My God 2’ starring
Akshay Kumar, ‘Gadar 2’ starring Sunny Deol, and ‘DreamGirl 2’ starring
Ayushman Khurana in August; ‘Jawaan’ starring Shahrukh Khan in September;
‘Ganapath’ starring Tiger Shroff and ‘Tejas’ starring Kangana Ranaut in October;
‘Tiger 3’ starring Salman Khan in November; ‘Yodha’ starring Sidharth Malhotra
and ‘Dunki’ starring Shahrukh Khan in December.
Hollywood releases, including ‘The Meg 2 : The Trench‘, ‘Blue Beetle’, ‘Teenage
Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem’, ‘Gran Turismo’ and ‘Retribution’ in
August; ‘The Equalizer 3’, ‘The Nun 2’, ‘A Haunting in Venice’, ‘My Big Fat Greek
Wedding 3’, ‘Dumb Money’ and ‘Expendables 4’ in September; ‘Kraven: The
Hunter’, ‘Paw Patrol : The Mighty Movie’, ‘The Exorcist : Believer’, ‘Killers of the
Flower Moon’, ‘Saw 10’ in October; ‘Dune part 2’, ‘The Marvels’, Disney’s ‘Wish’
& ‘Napoleon’ in November, among others, also have high expectations.
From the regional genre, there are, ‘Jailer’ starring Rajinikanth, ‘Bhola Shankar’
starring Chiranjeevi and ‘King of Kotha’ starting Dulquer Salmaan in August;
‘Kushi‘ starring Vijay Deverekonda and Samantha Prabhu, ‘Viduthalai Part 2’
starring Vijay Sethupathi and ‘Salaar’ starring Prabhas in Sep’23, among others.
Others
The company is on the verge of signing contracts for cricket World Cup matches
(specially Indian team matches) and will be screening the matches. Company is
confident of receiving corporate participation in screening of these matches.
Contract with BMS has ended and PVR has renewed the contract with revenue
sharing basis. Inox contract is already on revenue sharing basis.
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The company witnessed built up in Bollywood films with the success for recent
three Hollywood films.
‘Jawaan’ movie has been delayed due to VFX and augment marketing efforts.
In next 4 to 6 weeks, the Hollywood films strike is expected to cool off. The lineup
of current Hollywood moves remains robust which do not have any delay.
Most of the newly opened properties have been structured at minimum amount
guarantee or revenue sharing, whichever is higher.
PVR and INOX loyalty program is coming to an end, and towards H2 company will
work on a new customized loyalty program.
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Ad recovery seeing some green shoots from late June and July. Q2FY24 will see
more green shoots in ad revenue but pace is moderate, but positive momentum
will continue going forward.
Zee is finally seeing some benefits of NTO 3.0 in revenues but will take more
couple of quarters of full-fledged benefits.
Zee is looking at stories and narratives which they can context it according to the
region.
Zee has started experimenting with Telugu, Marathi, Bengali and Odiya
programmes on Zee5; These regions have out perform on national tv side as well,
hence experimenting on digital side.
Zee is still investing in Zee5 mainly in content and tech for better user interface.
As a movie producer, Zee is looking at this at dynamic level with a fair bit of
regional and Hindi mix.
Continue to invest in ZeeTV, Zee Marathi, Zee Tamil & Movies to further grow
market share.
Further strengthen market position in Bangla, Odiya, Telugu & Kannada Also
strengthen new channels: Zee Punjabi, Biskope, Keralam, Chitramandir, Picchar,
Thirai.
ZMC Hindi movies acquisition share strong track record of acquiring new Hindi
movies title.
Merger
Mr Punit Goenka’s case and merger proceedings both are different things, and
all clauses relating to merger will be same except the clause regarding Punit if
he is not being named as MD and CEO of merged entity.
Advertisement revenue
Zee continues to see muted ad spends, but there were some green shots.
Q1FY24 started on a slow note due to IPL, growth was led in back end of Q1 by
FMCG as there was pickup in their ad spends.
Q2FY24 will see more green shoots but pace is moderate, but positive
momentum will continue going forward.
Ad recovery seeing some green shoots from late June and July.
Zee is currently not in a position to give robust growth picture but positive
momentum will go up especially in festive season.
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Subscription revenue
This growth is attributed to the impact of NTO 3.0 and the ZEE5 platform, which
likely attracted more subscribers.
Other sales and services revenue saw a significant YoY increase of 42%.
Operating cost
Programming and Technology cost increased YoY due to higher content cost in
movies (including theatrical releases) and investment in ZEE5.
Broadcasting
IPL 2023 saw 32% YoY growth in television rating compare to last season.
Zee is finally seeing some benefits of NTO 3.0 in revenues but will take more
couple of quarters of full-fledged benefits.
The incremental revenue from NTO 3.0 is flowing into pay tv eco system and
marketing spends.
South markets for Zee is growing at a faster pace and is at a 30 month high for
Zee Tamil; Zee Telugu is also at all-time high; zee Punjab is no 1 channel in Punjab
and Chandigarh.
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Zee is looking at stories and narratives which they can context it according to the
region.
Viewership share gain is market to market dynamics- few of them are multiplayer
and while others are 2 player market; for eg- There is multiplayer market in
Malayalam region and where there was consolidation of market share for Zee.
Continue to invest in ZeeTV, Zee Marathi, Zee Tamil & Movies to further grow
market share.
Further Strengthen market position in Bangla, Odiya, Telugu & Kannada Also
strengthen new channels: Zee Punjabi, Biskope, Keralam, Chitramandir, Picchar,
Thirai
Zee 5
Sequentially cost base steady with prudent cost management, despite wage
escalation and increment.
32 shows and movies (including five originals) released during the quarter.
Zee has started experimenting with Telugu, Marathi, Bengali and Odia
programmes on Zee5; These regions have out perform on national tv side as well,
hence experimenting on digital side.
EBITDA loss for Zee5 stood at INR3,421mn, which increased YoY and QoQ. This
was due to lower revenues leading to operating deleverage.
EBITDA losses have flown through revenue, wherein revenue + EBITDA loss, QoQ
are steady,
Zee will still invest in content and tech for better user interface.
Zee Studio
ZEE Studio: 3 Hindi and 4 other language movies released during Q1FY24
Among big movies – ‘Gadar 2’ to release this week and ‘Maidaan’ to release in
later end of year.
As a movie producer, Zee is looking at this at dynamic level with a fair bit of
regional and Hindi mix.
Zee Music Company witnessed 13% QoQ growth on video views & 3 Mn
subscribers' addition during quarter on back of new age catalogue
ZMC Hindi movies acquisition share strong track record of acquiring new Hindi
movies title
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Others
Lease liabilities and other borrowings for the quarter stood at INR622mn.
IndusInd case - Both parties have withdrawn; Standard chartered case – still in
progress with both parties cooperating as required; IDBI case has been dismissed
The board has formed an interim committee wherein professional and senior
leaders there and regarding any material or big decision board is consulted.
Zee had implemented cash and carry model few quarters back and because of
litigation with SITI it has not receiving payment and hence not recognized the
same in revenue,
Zee had switched off signal to SITI in last quarter and had reached a settlement
with certain lenders of SITI in Q4FY23.
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Hindalco Industries
Aluminium business
Hindalco remains in the first quartile of the global cost curve
Primary aluminium CoP was down by 2% QoQ (guided flat CoP earlier) in
Q1FY24. Management expects the CoP to further reduce by 3% QoQ owing to
improved coal linkage and lower e-auction prices.
Coal mix in Q1FY24: Linkage at 41%, E-auction at 53%. Management expects the
linkage to improve to 57-60% in Q2FY24 and can sustain at that level
Company has not hedged further in Q1FY24. Approx 11% of FY24 aluminum
volume is hedged at USD2,755/t for FY24. Management expects aluminium
prices to remain range-bound at USD2,100-2,300/t for FY24 but does not wish
to hedge volume further at these prices.
Copper business
Management has guided EBITDA to improve in Q2FY24 as copper smelter
shutdown has completed and can produce cathode at optimum capacity. During
Q1FY24, it imported copper cathodes and convert into copper wire rods.
Project update
The 34ktpa aluminium extrusion plant in Silavassa has begun commercial
production
Meenakshi mine (10-12mtpa) is still awaiting for regulatory approval for final
allotment. The delay is due to the fact that law does not permit to transfer land
to private company wherein land was acquired under Coal Bearing Act. This
issue is expected to be resolved soon.
Hindalco has recently won Meenakshi west coal mine of 6-7mtpa capacity at a
premium of 33.75%.
Capex
FY24 capex guided at INR40-45bn (INR8bn in Q1FY24) in India and USD1.6-1.9bn
(USD333mn in Q1FY24) for Novelis. Management expects majority of this to be
funded via internal accruals.
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Hindustan Zinc
Quarterly performance
The refined zinc cost of production (ex-royalty) at USD1,194/t, was down by 2%
QoQ due to lower thermal coal cost and improved linkage further supported by
improved operational efficiencies and better grades. HZ with its focus on cost
optimization has been able to save USD100/t in last two quarters.
The mined metal production at 257kt was down 15% QoQ due to mine
preparation activities being carried out in Q1 every year.
HZ has opted for a new tax regime. The tax rate stood at 25% in Q1FY24.
Guidance
Cost of production and capex guidance remained unchanged
Project update
Management is targeting the production from Rajpura Dariba mill and fumer
plant in Q2FY24.
The roaster and fertilizer plant are expected to get commissioned in the next 18-
20 months, with roaster expected to commission in 14 months. The
commissioning of roaster is expected to add 50-55kt to the production
Others:
The brand fee is 2% of turnover
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Jindal Stainless
Management remains confident on the domestic stainless demand on the back of
government impetus on infrastructure.
Others
The ramp up of the 1mtpa brownfield SS expansion is on track. Management expects
additional volume of 40-50kt/month from August.
The domestic subsidiaries of JDSL is doing well, while the overseas are lagging behind
because of their dependencies in export market. Management has guided the
overseas subsidiaries performance to improve from Q3FY24
Management is confident to meet the domestic demand with its current capacity
for the next 2-3 years. JDSL will take a call for next phase of expansion in FY25. JDSL’s
focus is to increase its downstream capacity to 70-75% v/s ~50% currently with
possibility of increasing the capacity of cold rolling mills.
Management expects the payback period of Rathi Steel to be 5-7 years, as they
would want to check the penetration level of SS long product
JDSL will repatriate income via monthly dividend from Indonesia project. It will
eventually attract 10% dividend tax
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As per Management, though domestic steel realization were soft, higher export
realization and better product mix helped in ~2% QoQ increase in blended
realization. Additionally, despite higher coking coal cost, overall CoP was down
by 2% QoQ as JSPL was able to produce more iron ore from its captive Tensa
mines. As per PPT, QoQ EBITDA improvement was due to lower CoP (INR5.48bn
QoQ) & other cost reduction (INR3.5bn QoQ), offset partially by lower volume (-
INR2.36bn QoQ and prices (-INR1.75bn QoQ)
Projects
JSPL has successfully commissioned its 6mtpa pellet plant at Angul in
August. Until the new 3.3mtpa BoF commissions (guides by Q2FY25), this pellets
will be sold externally.
The company has signed a mining lease for Gare Palma IV/6 and Utkal C coal
mine. It is expected to start mining activities within Q2FY24 after receiving few
more statutory clearances. The total capacity of both these mines stands at
7.3mtpa.
Its 5.5mtpa Hot Strip mill (help in product mix improvement) is expected to be
commissioned by Q3FY24.
Management has still not decided on the steel making route (BoF/EAF) for
further 3mtpa expansion, taking total capacity to 15.9mtpa. It might go for
downstream expansion like cold rolled, galvanised products etc.
The cash flow during the quarter is as follows: Opening cash balance : INR47bn,
Working capital build up: INR4bn, Operational cashflow: INR22.5bn, capex :
INR19bn(primarily in Angul). Repaid loan: INR23bn, Raised freshloan: INR10.7bn.
Cash balance: INR38bn
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JSW Steel
Macro environment
Management remained optimistic on the domestic demand on the back of
government spending on manufacturing activities and infrastructure
development
Quarterly performance
Standalone derived steel realisation at INR65,966/t, up by INR1,261/t due to
improved product mix, increase of VAP contribution to 61% v/s 60% in Q4FY23.
Besides, it was inflated due to despatch of pre-booked high-priced export order
of Feb-March in Q1FY24
Steel inventories went up by 330kt QoQ due to channel destocking and weather
disruptions in Western India.
The capacity utilisation stood at 92% in Q4FY23 v/s 94% in Q4FY23 due to
maintenance shut down at few sites
Guidance:
Management expects the coking coal cost to be down by USD45-50/t QoQ
thereby offsetting the steel price decline in Q2FY24.
Volumes are expected to be better QoQ on the back of better demand and
liquidation of inventory from Q1FY24.
Steel prices have bottomed out and management doesn’t foresee any further
decline
Capex is focussed on enhancing the capacity by 6.5 mtpa by FY24-end. The 5mtpa
of brownfield expansion to come at Vijaynagar and 1.5mtpa at Bhushan Power.
The next phase of expansion will begin post FY25 to increase the capacity to
50mtpa.
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Project updates
Management expects the iron ore mines in Karnataka and Goa to get operationalize
soon. JSW may continue to look for auctioning of more iron ore mines.
In terms of coking coal. JSW currently has 2 coking coal mines giving 1mt of clean
coking coal that fulfils 5-6% of the total requirement. Management guided that they
may continue to look for more assets to strengthen their backward integration
The 1.5mtpa Coke Oven battery at Vijaynagar is expected to get
commissioned by Q2FY24
Merger of JISPL with JSW Steel has been approved by NCLT and will be completed
in Q2FY24.
JSW completed acquisition of downstream producer, National Steel and Agro.
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SAIL
Guidance
Management has guided for production volume of 19mt for FY24.
The capex guidance for FY24 is raised to INR68bn compared to INR65bn guided
earlier. This includes INR15-20bn for maintenance purpose and remaining for
debottlenecking and expense towards placing orders for further expansion
It will start with 3mtpa expansion at Bokaro and 4.5mtpa expansion at IISCO
plant. It has received the principal approval for ISSCO and Bokaro expansion and
DPR is expected to get finalised by Q4FY24. Thereafter, they will start expansion
at the Durgapur plant.
Others
The inventory during the quarter stood at 1.4mt
Iron ore inventory at the Gua mine is for internal consumption and shall be
utilised for palletization and beneficiation purpose. The finalization of prices with
Railways for FY22 delivery (1-1.2mt/year) is expected to be concluded in
Q2FY24/Q3FY24. Currently, SAIL is booking at adhoc price of INR67,500/t. Even
if final price is finalized at INR5,000/t more, it will help in additional revenue of
~INR12bn for last two years.
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Shyam Metalics
Projects update
Out of initial capex of INR39.5bn, SMEL has spent 82% (i.e. INR32.3bn) till
Q1FY24. The balance capex of ~INR7.2bn will be spent within FY24. It has
capitalised INR23.79bn until now. Total CWIP as on 30th june 2023: INR24.6bn.
Capex guidance
SMEL has announced further capex and laid down a plan of INR39.15bn (SMEL’s
share is INR36.65bn) for its next phase of expansion which includes INR6.25bn
(SMEL’s share: INR3.75bn) capex on Ramsarup spread across for 3 years (FY24-
26). With the completion of the proposed capex, the finished steel capacity will
increase to ~4.4mtpa (incl Ramsarup’s facility). Ramsarup will have 0.4mtpa DI
Pipe mill along with 85ktpa wire drawing mill.
Management expects all the new capacity to get commissioned by end-FY26, and
expect the IRR of 20%+ from incremental capex.
Capital allocation
The company seeks to invest 70% of the total cash generated into the business,
retain 20% as a liquidity surplus and return 10% to shareholders.
Operational guidance
Management has guided the thermal coal and iron ore prices to fall in Q2FY24.
Regarding Mittal Corporation acquisition, the matter has been heard at the NCLT,
Mumbai branch and judgment is reserved. Once SMEL takes control of Mittal
Corporation, management expects the operations to come in full swing in FY25.
SMEL will set up ladle furnace at its Sambalpur plant, Odisha and will produce
stainless steel billets (132ktpa). It would then send this to Mittal Corp’s
Pitampura, Indore plant and roll it into finished products. Initially, SMEL will
spend ~INR600mn to start the plant. It is yet to pay ~INR3.5bn to acquire the
plant.
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Others
Net cash stood at INR4.98bn at Q1FY24-end (Q4FY23 Net cash of INR5.6bn). It
still has to pay INR3.5bn to acquire Mittal Corp.
Promoter has to prune down its stake from 88% to 75% by Jun-23 to meet the
SEBI guidelines. Management informed they are working on it and that it would
be done via a combination of QIP and OFS.
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Tata Steel
Quarterly performance
Consolidated production at 7.74mt, down from 7.8mt due to planned
maintenance shutdown in Netherlands, which commenced in April’23 and last
until Q2FY24.
Guidance
Management guides average coking coal cost for India business to come down
by ~USD57/t QoQ and for Europe, it should come down by USD46/t QoQ in
Q2FY24
Steel volume is guided to be higher by 1.5mt YoY for FY24. The incremental
volume will come from NINL ramp up (running at 0.9mtpa run rate) and 0.5mtpa
debottlenecking at Kalinganagar.
As Tata’s major assets are nearing an end of life, Management will soon take a
call on the future operations of UK. Management is in talk with the UK
government and is hopeful of resolution soon
Management maintained the guidance to reduce net debt by USD1bn for FY24
and endeavour to maintain a net debt/EBTIDA at 2-2.5x despite higher capital
allocation (can breach for time being in case of any extra-ordinary development).
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Projects
The 5mtpa expansion at Kalinganagar is progressing well and Blast furnace is
expected to start commissioning from March 2024
Debottlenecking at its Steel mill shop should add 0.5mtpa volume from Q3FY24.
The next phase of expansion may start at NINL where Tata can set 4-4.5mtpa
capacity. The detailed engineering work will start soon and Management will
take a final call in FY25
The 6mtpa pellet plant has also started benefiting Tata in terms of cost saving. It
stops buying pellets from the market and even sells a part of the volume. As per
our calculation, Tata should earn an average EBITDA/t of ~INR4,000/t
(~INR21.6bn, assuming 90% capacity utilisation) on it as it has captive iron ore
mine.
NINL has ramped up and is operating at a capacity of 0.9mtpa. All the facilities in
NINL are back on track. The coke plant should start production by August’23. The
NINL iron ore mines are also being utilised.
Others
Tata Steel UK has completely de-risked its UK operation from pension liabilities
by selling assets and liabilities to the insurer. Currently, pension has residual
surplus of GBP200mn. This will not have any cash flow impact
Tata steel has around 500mt of iron ore reserves available for the next 30-
40years. However, Tata steel will continue to participate in iron ore auctions.
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Vedanta
Aluminium (28% of Q1FY24 Consolidated EBITDA)
Aluminium recorded EBITDA/t of USD391, flat QoQ as lower aluminium price was
offset by lower CoP. Aluminium CoP reduced by USD123/t QoQ to USD2,055/t
due to lower power cost which inturn was due to lower thermal coal cost.
Alumina cost was up by ~USD22/t QoQ in Q1FY24 due to lower percentage of
domestic consumption of bauxite and higher usage of external alumina.
Currently, it has to procure 100% bauxite (50% domestic), 55% alumina and 85%
thermal coal from market. The next three years (by FY26) is critical for aluminium
business and will set the tone for future profitability. It can have 60% captive
bauxite (9mtpa), 92% captive alumina (5mtpa) and 100% captive coal (34mtpa)
which will help in producing 2.8mtpa aluminium with cost in the ist quartile of
the world cost curve.
We expect the cost of production to come down with improved coal linkages
and commissioning of its coal and bauxite mine.
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Lower revenue was partially offset by lower cost of production (refined zinc CoP
(ex-royalty) stood at USD1,194/t, down 1.6% QoQ). The decline in CoP is due to
lower thermal coal cost and improved coal linkage (28% compared to 26% in
Q4FY23).
Others
Steel and raw material business has been put under strategic review. Sale is an
option for any part of the business. Review encompasses steel manufacturing at
Bokaro, iron ore mines in Karnataka, Odisha and Liberia, pig iron plant in Goa,
and met coke plant in Gujarat
Vedanta board has approved the strategic decision to enter the semiconductor
business through acquisition of SPV from Twinstar Technologies. It is looking for
JV and technology partnership. Under PLI scheme, 50% of capital subsidy is to be
granted by Central Government and 20% by State government
Brand fee payment to VRL has been increased from 2% to 3% of annual turnover
for six years. Shareholders’ approval is not required until 5%.
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GAIL
Q1FY24 operational highlights
The company recorded Gas trading volumes of 99mmscmd, natural gas volumes of
116mmscmd mainly due to downstream curbs and a capacity utilization of 56%
during Q1FY24. Petchem production stood at 164 TMT a with a capacity utilization
of 82%. LHC production was 243 TMT (5% higher QOQ) with a capacity utilization of
69%. LPG transmission for the quarter stood at 1,073TMT with 94% plant utilization.
CGD: Aims to add 100 CNG stations and 0.2Mn D-PNG connections in two years
The company has an infrastructure of 154 CNG stations and ~270,000 D-PNG
connections during the current quarter. The company added 1 new CNG station and
~77,000 new D-PNG connections during the current quarter. The physical volume
during the quarter stood at 0.3 mmscmd. The company plans to add over 100 CNG
stations and ~200,000 new VPNG connections over the next 2 years. The company
ay evaluate monetization CGD assets going ahead.
During the current quarter, the gross turnover stood at INR22bn vs INR25bn QOQ.
PBT stood at INR1bn vs INR0.9bn QoQ (+13%). Volumes were flat QOQ at 5.3
mmscmd. During the quarter, the company added ~1,600 new D-PNG connections
bringing the total number of connections ~870,000. Total CNG stations stood at 456.
Project update
The company has incurred a capital expenditure of INR ~24bn during Q1FY24. The
company aims to spend ~INR90-100bn in FY24 (INR40bn on pipelines, INR30bn on
petrochemicals, INR7bn on operational expenditure, INR35bn to infuse equity in
subsidiaries and JVs and INR2bn in CGDs)
Intl polymer prices have come down significantly in recent times. The company was
unable to recover the entire fixed and hence incurred a loss in the business during
the current quarter. Although, the company will be able to source gas at lower prices
going ahead which will help reduce cost significantly. Mgmt believes will turn EBITDA
positive provided gas prices remain below USD10/mmbtu (delivered price
~USD12/mmbtu).
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140mmscmd by FY26 driven by rise in utilization of pipeline and higher CGD offtake.
Pipeline utilization expected to improve to 60% from 56% currently.
GAIL is likely to stall 3GW of renewable energy by 2030 and plant to go net carbon
zero by 2040.
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Gujarat Gas
Largest among the CGDs with presence in 27GAs
GGL is the largest CGD Company with a total pipeline network of 36,000kms, 800+
CNG stations (of which 169 commissioned in new GAs) and D-PNG customers of
~1.9Mn. Inustrial and commercial customer base stands at 4,300 and 14,000
customers respectively.
During the quarter GGL added 46,000 customers (up 33%YoY) and added xx new
CNG stations. It also completed 0.1mn kg CNG sales in its new Thane and Palghar
GA.
The share of CNG and D-PNG increased to 35% during the quarter vs 31% YoY. The
mgmt. expects CNG segment growth to continue led by increase in OEM fitted CNG
models, reduction in diesel variants and improvement in CNGs competitiveness vs
diesel. Further, GGL will continue to aggressively expand into new GAs such as
Ahmedabad, Thane, Rajasthan etc. Its volumes in new GAs stand at 0.5-0.6mmscmd
which will go upto 1mmscmd by FY25.
GGL invested INR1bn in GSPC for 7.87% stake in the company which shall entail
synergy benefits of LNG receiving storage etc. GSPC has a total regasification
capacity of 5MMTPA.
The planned capex for next three years stands at INR1-1.2bn to be incurred equally
towards expansion in new GAs (steel pipelines, plastic branches), existing GAs
(expansion activities) and remaining for CNG. Additionally, GGL aims to add 60-70
new CNG stations in FY24 and FY25 while augmenting its existing CNG stations.
The company is looking to expand to new GAs such as Thane, AHmedaba, Rajasthan
for industrial volumes which has a potential of 1.5mmscmd+ and is aggressively
laying down infrastructure for the same.
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Propane prices are cheaper during the summer and is eoected to go up going
forward benefiting GGL. Propane prices have already increased to USD470/ton (Sept
forwards). In scm terms propane prices are currently at INR34-35/scm while I-PNG
is at INR 38/scm. Expect prices to come at par once the price increase in effective.
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Mahanagar Gas
Operational highlights of Q1FY24
During the quarter, MGL’s operational reach increased to 2.2mn households (added
0.05mn). 312 CNG stations were operational during Q1. It added 76 I&C customers
(4,589 overall) during Q1FY24. Total pipeline infrastructure stood at 6,612 km as of
Jun-2023. Volumes stood at 1.84 million kgs/ day during the quarter (1.81 mn kg/day
YoY). Industrial volumes stood at 0.32mmscmd and commercial volumes stood at
0.13mmscmd
Management highlighted that CNG realization grew 27% YoY in Q1 to INR79 (+INR
62 YoY). This led to YoY dip in CNG volumes. Besides, number of CNG buses also
dropped this quarter (YY basis). Furthermore, M&HCV (high consumer of CNG)
converting into CNG also dropped which were around 300-400 last year.
APM allocation during the quarter stood at 89% which 91% QoQ. Other requirement
was met through HP-HT and some through Spot. RIL mix in I&C volumes were
0.1mmscmd.
MGL has signed two MOU’s during the quarter. One MoU is signed with BMC for
setting up CBG plant dispensing around 1,000 ton CBG per day. Other MoU is signed
with Baidyanath LNG for setting up LNG dispensing stations at several places in and
outside Maharashtra. MGL is targeting 5-6 LNG stations over the next 10-12 months
(targeting mainly heavy vehicles and buses).
LNG will be priced at discount to diesel (say 15-20% discount). Investment required
is INR 50-60 mn (excluding land). Company shall try and capture two segments (B2B:
offer more discount) and B2C (slightly lesser discount). Management mentioned
that 10% discount to diesel is workable.
Management mentioned that MHRTC currently has 120+ busses (which was in
double digit two months ago). Company is targeting to induct 450 more buses in 8
MHRTC bus depo by Nov-December 2023. These buses consume 80kgs/day. Hence
there is potential of 40,000kgs/day which translates to 0.6mmscmd).
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Management mentioned that CNG volumes have started to pick up in June and July.
Besides, CNG conversion has also started to increase led by recent price cut.
Company re-iterates its long term volume guidance of 5-6% Company has guided for
long term EBITDA margins guidance of INR10/scm
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Petronet LNG
Healthy volumes outlook
PLNG eyes lower prices under renewed long-term deal with Qatar gas
Currently, the company buys 8.5MTPA of LNG under its deal with Qatar and will seek
for additional 1MTPA in supplies once it renews its long-term deal with Qatar.
Current pricing – 12.67% slope to brent, plus a fixed charge of about 50
cents/mmbtu.
Management mentioned that utilisation has started to improve with falling LNG
prices. Dahej Utilisation stood at 96% in Q1FY24 which will remain high aided by fall
in gas prices and increase in demand.
The company aims to recover the use or pay charges to the tune of INR11bn from
its customers by the end of FY24 (2.85 Bn from NHPC, 0.26 bn from HPCL, 1.79 Bn
from Torrent power and 1.25bn from ATGL).
The company has 4 LNG and compressed biogas stations which are almost ready for
use and will begin production shortly.
Gopalpur’s east coast FSRU-based LNG terminal is under feasibility test and due
diligence process before signing an agreement with the Gopalpur port trust. The
total capital cost remains at INR23bn although the operating expenditure will be
low.
Regas contribution stands at INR7bn and tariffs stand at INR 59.12/ mmbtu at Dahej
and INR 85/mmbtu at Kochi
There is no change in the dividend policy of the company. The management expects
to pay out 100% of the paid up capital as dividend every year.
Tank construction of over 50% has been completed and the company is going to
hand out more contracts shortly. Company shall also incur INR16.5bn capex for jetty
construction. Company is thinking of setting up one more plant in Kochi with
estimated capex of INR6bn.
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Company’s Net debt rose INR 1.3bn to INR21bn in Q1FY24 vs INR 19.7bn as
of March-2023. Company target to achieve significant debt reduction by
Q4FY24E aided by receivables recovery, indemnity inflows, and negative
working capital
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Pharmaceuticals
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Ajanta Pharma
Financial
Expect gross margin to be at Q1FY24 levels i.e ~75%
EBITDA margin guidance of 25% (+/-1% retained for FY24). Will keep on
improving on this beyond FY24
Capex FY24: INR2bn including new corporate office. Will be judicious in spending
Freight: At pre-Covid levels (~4% of revenues). Expect to remain at this level for
the rest of FY25
US
Q2:Q4FY24 revenues to be along the same lines. Mid-single digit growth for
FY24; this does not include gChantix
Price erosion has stabilised quite a lot. Should be ‘high single digit’
India
In covered market 4th largest player
Trade Gx: ~INR360mn, ~9-10% YoY growth. Its unlikely to cannabalise branded
growth
Africa: Paris strike impacted shipments to Africa. Maintain FY24 guidance of mid-
teens growth
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Alkem Laboratories
Financials and guidance
Confidence of achieving 16% EBITDA margin guidance. Softening of select raw
materials, easing freight costs and cost optimisation efforts led to improved
EBITDA margin.
GM could improve due to price increase in price control products, better India
mix, etc. GM guidance: 59-59.5%
Still have headroom to improve raw material prices, but need to watch out for it.
Pen-G and Cephalosporin is still tough.
Capex in Q1: INR800mn. FY24 guidance: INR3-3.5bn. This includes major portion
on biosimilar.
Enzene: Not only biosimilar, but CDMO also looks healthy and offers huge
opportunity. Plan to do INR2.60bn this year (INR1.6bn in FY23). Capex: INR1.5-
1.7bn this year. EBITDA level: aim to achieve breakeven next year. Look to double
this in next couple of years’ time. In talks with both large and small companies.
Could be subsidiary of large innovator companies or small biopharma.
Revised up ETR guidance to 17-19% this year mainly because of mix change i.e.
profits from non-exempted plants due to higher exports business.
India
Double digit growth looks difficult, but confident of high single digit growth in
India. Have grown lower than IPM this quarter. Also will depend on how Q2 acute
season plays out. Expect branded generic and trade generic contribution to
remain same. IPM is expected to grow at 8% this year.
Trade generics: Taken price hikes in Q1. It comes in lumps and have seen low
single digit price hikes historically. In OTX, it could be similar to branded hikes of
5%. Contributed to 17-18% of revenues. Moat is relationship with stockists and
retainers built over years. Moreover, consumers know about these companies
and these are actual brands. This is not only pricing game.
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In long run, trade generics could have structural impact on branded generics.
International business
In Q1, price erosion was in high single digit. In Q2, it is still in high single digit. But
this is better than double-digit price erosion in FY23.
US growth was largely driven by existing business aided by volume uptick as well
as price erosion. The base quarter i.e. Q1FY23 was down quite a lot. Pretty
modest growth compared to Q1FY22.
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Aurobindo
US
No one-offs this quarter. Volume led growth by leveraging global scale. Well
positioned for this year.
Price erosion: stable now (similar to Q4). This will continue given all supply
disruptions.
Puerto Rico site shutdown- no impact on profits. USD52mn revenues in FY23 and
negligible EBITDA. Can lead to 0.5% improvement in EBITDA margin.
o 95% of the entire injectable and specialty business is under one basket. Only
4-5% remaining (such as Canada, etc) which will happen n 3-4 months’ time.
gRevlimid: treat it as one-off opportunity. Launch from 1st October. Third wave –
lesser volumes. But pricing expected to be stable till end of 2025. Opportunity in
US is much bigger than other markets.
Of the 18 plants; 17 are under VAI classification and only 1 under WL.
Other business
Europe: driven by orals due to supply shortages at competitors’ end. Its broad
product portfolio and customer coverage helped them in gaining market share.
Europe: Seasonality and purchase patterns. EUR200mn + -5%, this range should
be retained.
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Vaccines: Missed this year tender. Not interested in retail business but vaccines
for WHO. Strive to gain manufacturing license this year and bid in next tender
i.e. in May and June 2024. Subject Experts Committee approval in place for 15
valent pneumococcal vaccine. Ongoing 2+1 dosing in 550 children. Take 3-6
months to complete documental formalities. Currently in 4th month.
Financial/others
Gross margin – subdued due to business and product mix – 1) high betalactum
API sales which have lower gross margin; 2) Europe done well, which has lower
gross margin but provide operating leverage. 3) 0.6% impacted by lower
operating income mainly due to export PLI incentive due to timing issues.
Eligible for INR2bn PLI benefit every year. Accrued INR400mn. 0.6% drop in
export benefit due to timing issue.
Capex: INR1.5-2bn for forward plants for Pen-G. China plant –Start by Apr 24 for
Europe business. Barring Unit 15, which is dedicated for Europe, rest other plants
are for multiple geographies.
FCF: USD29.5mn before PLI and new market investments. Net cash of
USD178mn. Gross debt USD674mn.
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Biocon
Biosimilars
Core EBITDA margin expected to return to mid-30%s by the end of FY24. It was
impacted due to phasing of tenders in EM and higher rebates in pegfilgrastim
based on legacy contracts. This is expected to normalise.
WAC is list price. Not net price. Biocon Biologics maintain good cost position and
hence you see good growth and profitability.
Ustekinumab and Denosumab clinical trial on track and expect to file by end of
2023 and 2024 respectively. Aflibercept: In litigation with Regeneron. Confident
about how things are progressing. Looking for interchangeability.
bAspart: Do not require PAI inspection again. Malaysia: Submitted CAPA plan to
agency in Jul’23.
Trastuzumab: 11% share in Jun’23 vs 9% last year. Growth led by new customer
contracts.
Bevacizumab – CRL received due to facility in Bangalore. There have never been
questions on scientific matter.
Licensing income may not happen in every quarter. But as Biocon sees
opportunities in out-licensing, this will appear.
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Generics
Retain mid-teen generics revenue growth for FY24 (could do higher double digit).
Will see better H2. Brownfield capacity expansion to add to growth. Bulk of
growth to come from formulations where looking to lock in additional contracts
but also from immunosuppressant APIs. Achieved 30-40% market share in
statins, and hope to get additional market share in immunosuppressant.
Peptide and formulations should drive margin expansion. Profit will be driven by
few drugs such as Copaxone (hope to get approval), liraglutide, etc.
Fermentation business is very profitable but is being cannibalised by synthetic
products, which were under pressure over last few years.
15 peptides in the pipeline. Filed liraglutide in US, Europe and other markets.
Filed both strengths - Victoza and Saxenda. Weight loss and diabetics market size
could be USD100bn in next 10 years.
Semaglutide: Novo is working with pure play CDMO players rather than working
with generic companies like Biocon. Biocon will develop all 3 strengths.
Recombinant route is cheaper and more effective. However, in clinical trials have
difficulty as required extensive phase1 trial. That is why people prefer synthetic
route. Biocon will try both paths.
Financials/Others
Capex: USD150mn BBL for Malaysia expansion. Generics: USD80-100mn.
Syngene: USD85mn
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Cipla
US
Growth was mainly led by base business improvement. QoQ improvement in
gRevlimid is not significant. Volume share is negligible. Base business has grown
impressively.
Price erosion has improved from low double digit/ high single digit to slightly
lower.
US sales level will be USD210–215mn per quarter. On top of this will be peptide
and other launches. Base business would be little short of that. Expect 4-5
peptide launch in next 2 years. Plan to file more peptide products in coming
years. Peptides and other launches are not dependent on Goa and Indore
inspection.
gAdvair – de-risked to another in-house facility in US. Plan to take this product
to the market in a period of 12 months with no incremental generic competition
expected.
gAbraxane: De-risked to CMO site. Expect to file it from both sites. Only thing
pending is the site. Teva was first filer and recently received approval. They have
not launched yet, expected it to be a phased launch. Market is supply constraint.
AGs are getting what they have been asked to supply. Periodically, there are
times when AG can supply and when brands can supply.
Albuterol: share has stabilised now. Largest family of albuterol i.e. proair had
issues previously, which helped Cipla. So share decline was a kind of
readjustment. But still hope to go up hereon.
Leuprolide – will see increase in market share going forward. Earlier, company
was waiting for pricing negotiations.
India
India grew 12% YoY. Of this new product contributed 2%. Galvus would be a little
less than that.
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Added 200–250 reps in Q1FY24. Plan to add another 400 by Q2, post which will
stop. Payback from reps is within 6-9 months.
There is strong volume and new product introduction growth. Tier2-6 cities
seeing strong growth through deepening of healthcare, particularly in the area
of anti-infective and respiratory. They have the ability to pay for it.
Trade generics doing relatively well. In Tier 1, therapies are getting upscale to
better molecules.
Consumer: Q1 and Q2 is usually peak season. ORS is larger category and hence,
saw muted quarter due to weak seasonality. Despite this, growth was
impressive.
SAGA
Will focus on private market and improve margins.
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Divi’s Laboratories
Business
Growth drivers – contrast media, sartans, soon-to-expire patented products.
Potential impact of price pressures in the US and Europe on operating margin
could be there, but remain optimistic for opportunities that keep emerging for
quality API manufacturer in generics.
Next few years will be better than last 5 years. Expect bigger basket in generics.
Good opportunities in custom synthesis. More life style medicine than life saving.
Growth in mature generic APIs is slower at single digit. But on 5000 tonnes, it is
also substantial. Generics prices have come down as demanded by the
customers. But raw material prices have also come down. Retained the extra
margin.
Contrast media API- various countries and customers are under review. MRI
contrast media tracking well and expect to complete validation by end of this FY.
Contrast media is also there in generic markets (like India). Growing very fast in
both generic and branded markets.
Carotenoids – need more capacity. Hence, putting Unit -3, which will come online
Q1-Q2FY25. There is competition.
Generics: Custom synthesis is 60:40 vs 59:41 for Q4FY23; and 56:44 for FY23.
Exports accounted for 86% of sales. Exports to Europe and US was 67%.
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Unit 3 (Kakinada) greenfield project with initial capex of INR15bn for phase 1.
Scope for further expansion. This will manufacture starting materials, advanced
intermediates, nutraceutical APIs, complex API. This will free up Unit 1 and Unit
2 for custom synthesis projects and generics.
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Gross margin 56-59% for next few quarters. Seeing softening of solvent prices,
freight costs and new product launches.
Expected ETR 24-25%. Tax rate changed in Q1 due to change in jurisdictional mix
in earnings.
Capital allocation – DRRD is open for acquisitions. India and EM rank higher. But
will also grab opportunities in in US and EU.
North America
QoQ growth was led by increase in gRevlimid sales, new launches such as
Regadenoson, Mayne pharma acquisition, market share expansion in existing
products, partly offset by relatively lower price erosion.
Volumes improving. Saw relatively less price erosion. Should see something
similar in coming quarter.
Other segments
Russia – pickup in allergy season and aided by lower base.
China: Starting to see the results. Bigger impact will be seen in FY25. Looking for
USD180mn additional revenues from China.
India
India grew in high single digits after adjusting for lost sales from divested brands,
NLEM impact.
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Expenses will be marginal such as on licensing fee, some local trials, etc. Do not
anticipate major use of cash and expect higher returns.
Biosimilars
Rituximab- BLA accepted by USFDA and MHRA. Expect to get approval in 12-18
months.
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Glenmark Pharmaceuticals
US
Expect 4-6% growth in FY24. Expect to launch 12-15 products in FY24. Also,
Monroe will commercialise in H2FY24. And site transfers from Baddi will kick in
in H2.
Monroe remediation largely done. Expect commercial sales from Monroe from
H2FY24.
Goa and Baddi remediation will continue in Q1 as well. Post which will invite
agency for inspection.
Respiratory: Clinical trial ongoing for generic Flovent pMDI; expect to file in FY24.
Plan to file at least one more generic respiratory pMDI in the U.S. in FY24 and
continue filing momentum beyond FY24.
8 ANDA approvals and 8 launches in FY23. 8 filings in FY23 and 10-12 filings
targeted in FY24.
Settlement with 3 plaintiff groups. USD87.5mn payable over two financial years.
Subject to final approval of court. Company has not admitted any liability.
India
India business could grow at 8-10%. This is after accounting for INR1.5bn lost
sales from divested brands.
Base business growth remains strong on full year basis – growth was 12%. There
could be quarter on quarter variations.
Adjusted for covid, divested brands, impact of NLEM price revisions, India
business reported 5.1% YoY growth in Q4FY23.
Europe, RoW
Europe: Expect to continue 20% growth in FY24. This year growth was driven by
Western Europe. Doing well in both generics and specialty. Respiratory is doing
well.
Respiratory and Derma are key therapies in Asia. Ryaltris continue to do well;
launched in Malaysian market in Q4. Gained good market share in Australia at
18.1% market share by partner.
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Ryaltris
Revenues: USD20-25mn in FY23 and looking at USD40-45mn in FY24.
US: Hikma consulted clinical advisory board and received positive feedback from
senior allergy doctors.
Ichnos
Investments in Ichnos in FY23- USD85.2mn as against USD; 89.1mn
Financial
Exceptional item Q4FY23: INR910mn in remediation cost; INR1.37bn legal costs
(last trials for Zetia were going). Total is about INR2.28bn. There was also
transaction related costs of INR2.60bn. For FY23, remediation cost for both US
and India plants was INR2.19bn.
Remediation costs mainly relates to consultants and people working there. Cost
of maintaining US plant was roughly USD22mn during the year and about
INR440mn in Q4FY23 in India (Goa and Baddi). FY24 will see very little
remediation cost. Gross block for Monroe USD250mn.
Net debt is higher due to increase in working capital cycle. There is a sudden
change in geography mix – more sales from EU and RoW and less from Europe.
Hence debtor days are higher by about 45 days. Should come down going forward
by about 15 days – will be closer to 100 days. This will be more sustainable.
Inventory- 85 days. Don’t like to go below this. Also there was impact of currency.
Continue to hold FY26 guidance of zero net debt. Focus will be on FCF generation
for debt reduction.
While giving net guidance earlier, there was no visibility on gZetia settlement.
Hence net debt guidance would depend on GLS divestment.
FY24 guidance: R&D: 8-8.5% of sales; in FY24. EBITDA margin in FY24: 19-20%+
Capex -INR6-7bn in FY24.
ETR in FY23: adjusted for tax on GLS dividends, INR650-700mn tax on brand
divestments is 38-39%. Cash tax is 31%. Guided for similar tax rates in FY24 i.e.
38-39% P&L tax and 31% cash tax. Expect to reduce this in less than 2 years’ time
to 25%. Also, with reduced Ichnos spends, this should come down as there is no
set off available in Switzerland. Still have MAT credit of INR7bn. This will be over
in 2 years’ time.
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IPCA Laboratories
India
FY24 revenue growth guidance: 12–14% (industry to grow at 10%).
All therapies, except anti-bacterial (5% growth) have done well. Pain: +15%,
cardio +10%. CNS – 21%. Derma – +24%. Urology +26%. Opthal +15%. Cough &
cold +11%.
In Jun’23, Ipca grew at 13% versus 11% industry growth. NLEM impact of 16% in
Q4FY23 was partially offset by price increase taken in Q1. Two ranks gained over
FY23 in the chronic segment. 15th rank maintained in acute.
UK business FY24 INR1.3bn vs INR640mn last financial year. Good traction from
European markets. Except South Africa where it has lost tenders, other
businesses should do well.
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Dewas site: by year end small domestic business should start. Business should
scale up next year. Expect European authorities to inspect in H2FY24. FY24: Plant
will be in losses.
Financials
Expect 6-8% overall revenue growth in FY24. All guidance without Unichem and
on standalone basis.
EBITDA margin FY24: 19-19.5% (excluding other income) (versus 16.2% in FY23 –
standalone; consol difference 100bps) mainly driven by gross margin. Drag from
subsidiaries should come down. Material cost to sales ratio to improve from
35.5% in FY23 to 31.5-32% in FY24. This is on account of improvement in
formulation business, sales force productivity improvement, softer input costs
and cost optimisation.
Unichem is also improving performance. Will not be able to guide until Ipca takes
control. Unichem: Integration will start by September end i.e. Q3 (from the date
of control). Open offer to start on 28 Aug and close by 8 th Sep. By 20th Sep all
payments should be done.
Not much increase in other expenses. Productivity increase in sales force has also
helped.
Net borrowing will remain at INR10bn. Finance cost: INR1-1.2bn in FY24. Interest
rate is around 7-7.5%.
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Lupin
Financials and strategy
Retained EBITDA margin guidance of Q4FY24 exit run rate of 18%+. Could be
even higher. FY24 could be 15%+. Expect EBITDA margin to improve QoQ.
GM – should sustain at this level. Improvement due to favourable mix, softer API
prices (excluding excipients) and PLI.
R&D to sustain at current levels in absolute terms. It was higher QoQ on account
of injectable and biosimilar - ranibizumab clinical trials, completion of Risperdal
Consta trials. R&D split: 50% for complex comprising of 20% inhalation, 20%
injectable and 10% biosimilars. Curtailed spends on NCE front, low single digit
mn$. If positive result, may look for partner and no plans to commercialise on
own.
EBITDA margin adjusted for milestone income stood at 14.4%. +50bps QoQ on
account of high gross margin partially offset by higher expense and PLI benefit in
base.
ETR 21-22% in FY24. It was lower due to turnaround in US subsidiary, which had
losses and increases sales from Sikkim plant which is under tax benefit.
Licensing income Abbvie: couple years out for next. Risk profile has improved
significantly so quantum of potential milestone income has gone up.
US
Spiriva: Expect to launch in late Q2FY24. Haven’t heard of AG launch in near term.
This could be because LPC is only generic in the market place and generic
substitution likely to be gradual and brand may want to maximise its value.
Market size USD1bn (only handihaler; respimat is top of that). Lupin will find a
way to convert respimat to handihaler. Based on other DPIs, expect generic
substitution to ramp up over time from 25% to 40% (hopefully by middle of next
year). Expect to ramp up in next 2 years.
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Inhalation – Apart from Spiriva DPI, have made significant progress in Elipta
(expect to file by end of this fiscal), and also in Respimat (more so in next fiscal).
Learned to work on dual combination drugs (learning from Advair). Being
developed in Coral Springs and team is excited about its development. Also
working on 3 combination drugs. Also made some progress on MDI. But watching
carefully due to green propellants. Working on both 505j as well as novel
propellant version MDIs for differentiation and exclusivity in the marketplace.
Injectables – Expect multiple product approvals starting from end of this fiscal
due to Nagpur site clearance. It will start from Glucagon launch. Already
launched Thiamine in partnership with Caplin. Following both 505j and 505b2
route. 9 products in active pipeline this year. In 5 years aim to reach USD100mn+
revenues. Important plants – Nagpur. And some will be partnered products.
Completed trials for Risperdal Consta. Plan to file next quarter. 2+ years to
launch.
Also made progress in respiratory nasal spray and implants and devices
(currently in clinics).
Myrbetriq: New patent on which innovator is suing. But Lupin is confident on the
outcome. Market size: USD2bn+. Limited no. of players on Day 1.
US generics base business: price erosion low single. Expect it to sustain in low to
mid-single digit. Due to lot of pricing pressure in last couple of years which
pushed lot of companies to exit market. And this has led to drug shortages, which
is a huge concern heard from FDA, stakeholders, etc. This should continue going
forward.
India
India grew 13.6% YoY adjusted for NLEM and Cidmus brand in sales. Diabetes has
sprung back to growth (vs declining). Confident of consistent above market
growth from Q2 onwards. New divisions and addition of 1,300 sales force in
Q3/Q4FY23 should contribute.
May add 500 force each year later. Significant headroom to grow in chronic since
Lupin is not No.1 in any of these. Also, severely underrepresented in oncology
and CNS.
Others
Institutional TB and API business has done well.
API – 7ACA and core business sales recovered handsomely. It was suppressed in
last 2 years. Cephalosporins are back. Picking up in certain products. Likely to
stay at this level. Further increase in API sales will come from new products. Pen
G prices are still high.
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Fostair – good % of revenues in Europe and expect it to peak in FY25 i.e. should
be meaningful contributor in FY25. Doing well in UK, launched in Germany last
month, other countries through partners in Italy.
EMs- have always been double-digit growth market. Also have better-than-
company level EBITDA margin.
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Natco Pharma
Products
Semaglutide: Sole FTF on one particular strength (partner is Viatris)
Erdafitinib: own filing. Current market size ~USD40mn; can go up to USD 150mn
Domestic
Oncology going well. There was a one-time order in Q2
Doing well on cardio-diabetes front. New launches should drive 50% of growth
Agro: On target for INR1.5-2bn revenue target. Expect INR4-5bn in next 3 years
Financial
One-time special employee incentive of INR170mn
Q2 should be a similar quarter; Q3 things will slow down and Q4 will seep pick-
up again
Others
US front end is the only business that is making losses
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Sun Pharmaceuticals
Specialty
Global specialty sales +21% YoY to reach USD232mn. US specialty continue to
do well YoY. QoQ dip was on account of seasonality in Levulan sales. Havent
seen any impact on Ilumya of launch of Humira biosimilars.
Philogen – Nidlegy for Europe, Australia and New Zealand. Currently in phase 3
trials for skin cancer. Prescribed by the same doctors as Odomzo. Good follow
on treatment.
US
Significant contribution from gRevlimid sales. Expect it to be lumpy in nature.
Not seen any significant opportunity from drug shortages. Also, SUNP do not
have large portfolio of injectable products.
Taro- formed special committee and need to finalise lawyers and bankers. At
some point negotiation will begin for buying back Taro. Derma business is under
constant pricing pressure. As a standalone business, it will be difficult for it to
show meaningful profitability.
Mohali: No need for re-inspection for restarting supplies. Supplies from Mohali
have not started. Whether have regained share is based on market dynamics
and contracts with customers.
India/EM/others
India growth muted on account of price reduction in Sitagliptin after patent
expiry in Jul’23 (volumes healthy), full quarter impact of NLEM which came in
Dec-Jan.
Expect to grow in-line with market in India or even higher. Cequa – Initial
response has been good. Launched 10 new products in Q1FY24.
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EMs Branded formulations stood at USD261mn +6.5 YoY. CC terms 14% YoY.
Romania and Brazil has done well.
China Medical System Holdings CMS have good presence in derma and
ophthalmology.
Financials
Impaired AA012 product for vitiligo indication.
Taro PAT adjusted for one-time expense of plant relocation stood at INR
USD14.9mn.
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Torrent Pharmaceuticals
India
India growth stood at 16% adjusted for NLEM impact of 1.5% – TRP growth of
11% and 5% from Curatio. Chronic grew in double digits. However, acute season
was weak. Gastro (~INR10bn business) was impacted by seasonality. Expect it to
recover in coming months.
Curatio: 18% growth in Q1. Teddy bar is now INR1bn brand. Top 5 products have
grown in high teens portfolio. Margin is now 7% higher than pre-acquisition.
Expect it to move to India base business level. PCPM is INR500,000 versus
INR360,000 pre-acquisition. Restructured few divisions as focus remains on top
5 brands.
Consumer portfolio: 230 sales reps across the country for consumer distribution.
No plans to add more in this fiscal. Advertisement spends may not be higher
going forward. Shelcal seeing positive outcome. Plan to start national rollout in
coming few months. Also started pilot of Unienzyme in few states. Teddy Bar
from Curatio portfolio is also planned.
Sitagliptin – INR100mn per month revenue run rate within 12 months of launch.
TRP is No.1 among generics.
5500 MRs.
US
USD36mn sales – down 8% YoY. Adjusted for one-offs, growth was 1%.
Did not see any material price erosion. Q1 is more of a price stability story. Buyers
had difficulty in supplies by chasing low cost supplier.
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High single digit filing in the US. Some of the products will start getting approval
from september onwards, subject to plant clearance.
Given no. of approvals and filings, it won’t be difficult to reach USD50mn per
quarter in next 3-4 years. But don’t expect US business share to go up
significantly from current 10% as other businesses continue to grow at higher
rate.
Brazil
BRL114mn sales grew -2% YoY. BRL 215mn adjusted for postponed sales which
happened in July i.e. 12% cc growth.
H2 is always stronger.
Germany
YoY growth driven by tender wins in last 3 quarters. Should see pickup in Q4FY24
due to additional tender win this quarter.
1.3x net debt to EBITDA. For rest of the year would be repaying additional INR6bn
debt.
Others – Europe B2B business and insulin manufacturing for others. Declined due
to lower uptick in insulin business, relating to Novo Nordisk. Should come back.
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Zydus Lifesciences
US
Q1FY24: 4 products launched; 20 new approvals received; 4 products filed
Q1FY24: Higher volume, new product launches drove growth. Pricing was stable
Expect few limited competition launches annually for next few years
gVascepa: Launch in Q3. Want to get complex API supply chain in order
India
Retained leadership position in nephrology. Fastest growing company in
oncology
Financial
R&D: 8% of sales
Capex spend geared toward US. Overall capex spend of INR8-10bn annually
NCE
Saroglitazar: Ph.2b/3 for PBC and Ph.2b for NASH for US market. ~80% patients
recruited. Also PCOS and NAFLD
Inspection
Oral solids plant at Ahmedabad SEZ 0 obs during Pre-Approval inspection
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Share of renewable in generation has increased from 39.9% to 41.8% during the
period.
AUM at INR 229 billion; Net Debt/AUM at ~60.1% - well below the 70% cap as
per SEBI regulations.
Approvals are in place for further capital raise ~INR15Bn to maintain adequate
headroom for growth.
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Real Estate
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Brigade Enterprises
Management call: Key highlights
1. Management commentary: Management’s commentary on its various business
lines:
Real estate: Housing demand remains strong and sales are increasing
despite mortgage rate hikes/house price increase.
Hospitality: Hotel biz reported occupancy of 67% during the quarter, down
just 1% QoQ (62% pre-covid).
3. Sales: Pre-sales for the quarter stood at 1.5msf (including landowner space share
of ~0.18msf), up 18% YoY but down 38% QoQ. In value terms, pre-sales at
INR10bn (including landowner space share of INR1.4bn) were up 22% YoY but
down 33% QoQ.
FY23 pre-sales stood at 6.3msf (up 34% YoY), valued at INR41bn (up 36% YoY), its
best-ever for any year.
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DLF
We summarise management’s thought process regarding various facets of business:
1. Profits improve YoY: Q1FY24 revenues came in at INR14.2bn (down 1% YoY and
2% QoQ). EBITDA margin decreased by 86bp YoY but up 30bp QoQ to 27.8% in
Q1FY24. Adjusted net profit stood at INR5.3bn (up 12% YoY but down 8% QoQ).
3. DCCDL: Rentals during Q1FY24 came in at ~INR10.4bn (up 13% YoY but down 1%
QoQ).
4. Office portfolio: Overall office portfolio occupancy levels stood at ~88.6% during
the quarter.
The company started earning rentals from the Downtown Gurugram Phase I
project in FY23. ~93% of the office space in this project has been leased.
Weighted average rentals at INR119/sft are higher than Cyber Park rentals.
Work on the Downtown Phase II project of 2msf is progressing well with ~1.5msf
space already pre-leased (including hard options).
6. Q1FY24 sales: During the quarter, DLF posted net sales of INR20.4bn (down 76%
QoQ as bookings in the previous quarter were aided by ~INR80bn bookings in the
Arbour project launched during Q4FY23).
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Godrej Properties
1. Godrej Summit project: Godrej Projects Development Limited (“GPDL”), a
wholly owned subsidiary of GPL, for one of its projects, Godrej Summit in
Gurugram, which was completed in phases in 2017 and 2018, recently
appointed an external expert to undertake a detailed independent assessment
of a quality issue discovered in the project. This assessment identified the
presence of chloride in the concrete used in the project, which when in contact
with water, leads to corrosion of steel reinforcement.
The external experts further advised that with the required repair and
maintenance framework, the building is expected to perform as per its intended
design life. Accordingly, GPL has provided an amount of INR1.55bn towards
repair, maintenance, customer claims, or any ancillary costs in the Q1FY24
results. GPDL believes that it has the ability to claim against the contractors who
constructed Godrej Summit.
GPDL has also made an offer to buy back units or provide rentals to all the unit
holders of the project and will account for the buyback if and when the
intending customers execute the relevant documentation with GPDL.
Considering that negotiations are ongoing and the exact liability amount isn’t
clear yet, uncertainty about this project is likely to continue for sometime, in
our view.
4. New sales: New sales during Q1FY24 stood at ~INR22.5bn (down 11% YoY and
44% QoQ). The commercial segment did not contribute towards the sales during
the quarter; hence, the entire sales came from residential projects alone.
In volume terms, bookings during Q1FY24 came in at ~2.25msf, down 20% YoY
and 57% QoQ.
For FY24, the company has maintained its guidance of INR140bn in pre-sales.
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Macrotech Developers
Financial performance: Q1FY24 revenues came in at INR16.2bn (down 40%
YoY/50% QoQ). EBITDA margins came in at 20.4% (up 300bp YoY but down 330bp
QoQ) while adjusted net profit for the period came in at INR1.8bn, down 76%
QoQ/40% YoY.
Embedded EBITDA margin: Lodha is the first real estate company in India to give
the embedded EBITDA margin figures from Q2FY23 onwards. It is the estimated
EBITDA margin on pre-sales (excluding DM sales) of the period with lifecycle
costs, excluding finance cost. Embedded EBITDA margins came in at 30% for the
quarter (31% in Q4FY23), in line with the management guidance of embedded
margin of 30% for FY24 (32% for FY23).
Management mentioned that margins in the Bengaluru and Pune markets are
~200bp lower than those realized in the MMR market.
Pre-sales guidance: The company maintained its guidance for 20% CAGR in pre-
sales over FY23-26E and 20% RoE for FY24E. They envisage pre-sales of INR145bn
in FY24E with operating cash flows of INR60bn and new project additions of over
INR175bn.
Share of JDAs in pre-sales: The share of JDA projects in overall pre-sales during
the quarter stood at 35%. Management expects this to increase to 40% in FY24E.
Pre-sales: New sales value surged 11% QoQ/17% YoY to ~INR33.5bn in Q1FY24. This
is the best-ever Q1 pre-sales for the company. Lodha has guided for INR145bn in pre-
sales for FY24, of which it has achieved 23% in Q1 and requires 21% YoY growth in
bookings in Q2–Q4 FY24 to meet its guidance.
Walk-ins remain healthy with a conversion rate of ~8% during the current
quarter.
The 20% YoY growth in pre-sales is likely to be a mix of three factors: i) Price increase
of 6–7% YoY; ii) volume growth of 3–4% in existing projects; and iii) 10% increased
contribution from new projects.
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Project launches: The company launched three new projects spanning ~1.8msf,
and with a GDV ~INR15.1bn during the quarter; of these, one project was in Pune
while the others were in MMR. Of the three projects launched during the
quarter, two were JDA projects.
For the remaining part of FY24, the company plans to launch 22 projects spanning
9.4msf with a GDV of ~INR125.6bn. Project launch in Bengaluru is expected in
Q2FY24.
Around 67% of this ready inventory belongs to the mid-income and affordable
segment. The share of luxury and premium segment mainly in the South and Central
Mumbai micro-markets continued to reduce from 36% in the previous quarter to
33% in Q1FY24.
As far as ongoing projects are concerned, the company had ~INR189bn of unsold
inventory at end-Q1FY24; of this, ~INR2.5bn belonged to office and retail projects
with the balance being residential projects.
Township projects: The share of township projects (Palava and Upper Thane) in
sales declined to ~18% during the quarter (19% in Q4FY23 and 24% in Q1FY23).
With this, Lodha has achieved 69% of its business development guidance for FY24
(of ~INR175bn).
The project added in the Western suburbs in the current quarter is in Alibaug
where the formal launch is expected in the next three-four quarters.
V Hotel: Lodha has also emerged as L1 bidder for a land parcel in Juhu in Mumbai
owned by V Hotels Ltd. It is a 6.1-acre land parcel which currently has a 367 key
hotel built on it. Lodha plans to develop a residential project here (carpet area of
0.7msf plus). The company has paid some proportion of the consideration in the
current quarter however, the same has yet not been included in the business
development for Q1FY24 as definitive agreements are pending to be signed.
Cash flows: During the quarter, net collections stood at ~INR21.2bn, while the
net increase in debt was INR1.9bn (net cash surplus available for distribution
capital providers was INR9.7bn in Q4FY23 and INR4.4bn in Q1FY23).
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Out of the ~INR8,200mn of spends towards land, approvals and JV/JDA investments,
~INR7,000mn is towards the new JDA agreements entered into in the current
quarter. Some portion of this is also towards future projects for which a formal
agreement is yet to be signed.
For FY24, the company expects to earn operating cash flows of INR60bn. It said that
the growth in OCF is less than the growth in pre-sales and collections as they would
like to build up an annuity portfolio, which would provide a regular stream of cash
flows to the company. They expect to earn ~INR5bn of annuity income by FY26 and
INR15bn by FY31.
Higher construction expenses and increased investments in Land and JDAs led to
Lodha ending the quarter with a net cash deficit of 8% of collections in Q1FY24.
Debt: The company ended the quarter with net debt of ~INR72.6bn for its Indian
operations. Debt increased ~INR1.9bn QoQ owing to notable investments in
business development during the quarter.
Interest rate: Average cost of debt declined ~15bp to 9.65% during the quarter.
It is down ~45bp YoY despite ~250bp in rate hikes by the RBI.
Accounting policy changed: Lodha has changed its revenue recognition policy so
that the financials track the operational performance more closely.
As per the earlier Project Completion Method (PCM), revenues were linked with
the receipt of Occupation Certificate (OC) whereas underlying profitability of
business is linked to sales and construction progress basis, based on which cash
flow comes in.
As per the new policy, sales beginning 1st April, 2023 will be accounted for using
the Percentage of Completion Method (PCOM). Thus, there will be gradual
impact of this transition on P&L. The financials are expected to start tracking the
underlying pre-sales by FY26 as contract entered prior to 31st March, 2023 would
still continue to be recognized under PCM and the management anticipates that
these projects should be complete by then.
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Oberoi Realty
1. Financial performance: Q1FY24 revenues at INR9.1bn were flat YoY but down 5%
QoQ. EBITDA margin at 52.1% were down 180bp YoY but up 1,370bp QoQ.
Reported profit stood at INR3.2bn, down 20% YoY and 33% QoQ.
It plans to launch the Thane Pokhran Road project by end of Oct-23 and the
Kolshet Road project after that. The Kolshet Road project has five towers, the
contract for which have already been awarded to L&T; construction has
commenced there. In the Pokhran Road project, Oberoi plans to launch three
towers initially and expects to award the contract soon.
9. Rental assets witness sequential increase in revenues: Occupancy was flat QoQ
in Oberoi Mall in Q1FY24 (at 96%); operating revenue came in at ~INR378mn
(INR365mn in Q4FY23 and ~INR376mn in Q1FY23).
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The company has received part OC for the Commerz III and has handed over
space to the anchor tenants for fit outs.
10. Cash flows: The company’s operating cash outflow in Q1FY24 at ~INR7.7bn
improved compared with outflow of ~INR22.5bn in Q4FY23. However, higher
investing cash outflow meant that net business cash flow (operating less
investing cash flow) was nil during the quarter.
11. Leverage: The company’s gross debt to equity inched down QoQ to 0.3x (0.32x
in Q4FY23 and 0.27x in Q1FY23); the net debt to equity also decreased QoQ to
0.22x (0.25x in Q4FY23 and 0.16x in Q1FY23). Management expects the debt
levels to reduce going ahead as the collections from Mulund and Worli projects
improve.
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Phoenix Mills
Financial performance: Q1FY24 revenues at INR8.1bn were up 41% YoY and 11%
QoQ. EBITDA margin during the quarter came in at 60.7%, up 450bp YoY and
160bp QoQ. Adjusted profit stood at INR2.4bn during the quarter, up 49% YoY
and 17% QoQ.
Both the leased occupancy and trading occupancy across malls have improved
QoQ.
Kolkata mall: The project has received building plan sanctions from the
Municipal Corporation. Excavation work has been completed.
Indore mall: PML commenced the operation of its Phoenix Citadel mall in Indore
in Dec-22. This is the largest mall in central India. In Jun-23, it had a leased
occupancy of 94% while trading occupancy was 87% in Jul-23 (79% in Apr-23,
42% in Dec-22).
Office segment: The total income from the commercial portfolio in Q1FY24 was
INR449mn (INR433mn in Q4FY23), up 11% YoY. Q1FY24 EBITDA at INR261mn
was down marginally QoQ but up 11% YoY.
PML has enjoyed robust leasing traction during the current fiscal with YTD gross
leasing of ~0.176msf (renewed area of ~87k sft and signed new deals of 88k sft).
Hospitality segment: Occupancy in St. Regis remained strong at 82% during the
quarter (85% in Q1FY23). ARRs at INR 16,504 during the quarter were up 38%
YoY.
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Occupancy in the Agra hotel increased to 72% during Q1FY24 (62% in Q1FY23).
ARRs at INR4,408 in Q1FY24 were up 18% YoY.
Residential division: The company sold inventory worth ~INR1.4bn during the
quarter (INR5.5bn in FY23, INR3.4bn in FY22) in its residential segment. YTD
sales stand at ~INR2.3bn.
Leverage: The net debt (at group level) decreased to ~INR21.8bn (~INR22.8bn
during Q4FY23).
Within this, the company’s share of net debt was at ~INR16.3bn (~INR17.8bn as
on Mar-23 end).
Interest rate: PML’s average cost of debt trended up to 8.87% in Jun-23 (8.74%
in Mar-23, 8.41% in Dec-22, 7.89% in Sep-22).
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Sobha
Segmental performance
19. Real estate: Q1FY24 revenue came in at INR7.4bn (up 62% YoY down 23%
QoQ).
Project launches: Sobha did not launch any new project during the current
quarter; however, it released ~0.8msf of additional inventory in the ongoing
projects (mainly in Kerala). FY23 launches stood at ~3.5msf. FY22 launches stood
at ~1.7msf. Launches during FY21 stood at ~3.2msf (~1.6msf during FY20).
There had been significant increase in the share of houses in the <INR10mn
category earlier (up from 21% in FY19 to 34% in FY20); the share declined in
FY21 (down to 20%) but again increased to 24% in FY23 and stood at 23% in
Q1FY24.
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Unsold area: Overall unsold area however decreased QoQ to 5.17msf (7.33msf
at end-Q4FY23).
Net cash flows from ongoing projects increased to ~INR36.8bn during the quarter.
The balance receivables from sold ongoing project inventory and completed projects
stand at ~INR66.8bn, which exceeds the balance project cost to be spent on
completing the projects.
Collections: Collections in Q1FY24 stood at INR13.6bn (up 21% YoY but down 5%
QoQ0; Q4FY23 had witnessed the highest-ever quarterly collections.
Cash flows: Net OCF (collections less operating costs) declined to INR1.9bn
during the quarter (INR3.3bn during Q4FY23 and INR1.5bn in Q1FY23).
After meeting interest and dividend commitments, net cash flow stood at
~INR1.5bn during the quarter (INR2.8bn in Q3FY23 and INR1bn in Q4FY23).
Net cash flow during the quarter stood at INR702mn (INR1.3bn in Q4FY23 and
INR2.2bn in Q1Y23). The cash flows declined on account of higher project
expenses and overhead outflows.
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Sunteck Realty
1. Q1FY24 performance: Q1FY24 revenues were INR706mn (down 51% YoY but
up 44% QoQ). EBITDA margins came in at negative 10.6% (31.5% in Q1FY23 and
negative 18.6% in Q4FY23). Net loss was INR67mn (loss of INR279mn in Q4FY23
and profit of INR249mn in Q1FY23).
2. Pre-sales: Q1FY24 pre-sales stood at INR3.9bn, up 16% YoY but down 28% QoQ.
Management expects the sales and collection to pick up once the festive season
sets in.
Apart from the Naigaon project, BKC and ODC projects have historically contributed
a lion’s share to the company’s sales.
FY23 pre-sales stood at INR16bn and the management has guided for ~25-30% YoY
growth in pre-sales for FY24.
Sunteck has identified seven growth engines to shore up its pre-sales growth by
FY25E. The identified pipeline of projects have a GDV of INR303bn. Construction
spends of INR85-90bn would be incurred on these projects.
3. Launches: The company is planning to launch the Kalyan project within the next
3-4 months and the Nepean Sea Road project within the next 9-12 months. The
Nepean Sea Road project has an area of ~0.2msf. The Borivali, Sion and Jaipur
projects do not have a launch visibility in the next 12 months.
4. Collections: Collections in Q1FY24 totalled ~INR2.9bn (up 1% YoY but down 13%
QoQ).
Collections to pre-sales ratio has been strong at >50% over the previous years. In
Q1FY24, the ratio improved QoQ to ~74% from 61% in Q4FY23 (~86% in Q1FY23).
5. BKC Project: The company did not sell any inventory in this project during
Q1FY24. Management expects sales traction to improve going ahead and is
hopeful of closing some deals in Q2-Q3FY24.
7. Business development: SRL has added six projects spanning ~25.5msf since the
pandemic.
Vasind project: Refer to Sunteck Realty - Vasind project addition boosts portfolio
Vasai project: Refer to Sunteck Realty - Vasai project addition adds cheer
Borivali West project: Refer to Sunteck Realty - Borivali project addition boosts
value.
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Mira Road project: In Q2FY23, SRL added a 2.5msf project in Mira Road near
Mumbai under the JDA mode (refer to, Portfolio growth continues unabated). This
project was launched in late Q4FY23.
Management indicated that they are negotiating 4-5 new deals and are hopeful of
closing three of these deals soon. Two of these deals are for outright purchase of
land while three are on JDA model.
8. Cash flow: The company generated a positive net operating cash flow of
INR760mn in Q1FY24 (~INR740mn in Q1FY23).
The pending receivables from the sales already done is INR21bn and the pending
construction cost is INR11bn.
Business cash flow (operating less investing cash flow) stood at ~INR1.7bn in FY23
(negative ~INR1.2bn in FY22).
9. Debt: SRL ended Q1FY24 with a net debt of ~INR5.1bn and a net debt:equity of
0.13x.
10. Leasing:
BKC 51: The company has already pre-leased the entire space and is looking
to earn an annualized rentals of INR360mn (SRL share). They had invested
capital of INR1.3bn in this project and are estimating an ROIC of 30%.
OC has been received for this project and fit-outs are nearly completed.
Rentals are expected to start from the next month (Refer to Leasing in
Sunteck BKC51 brings cheer)
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Bata India
Q1FY24:
Bata saw industry moving into EOSS much earlier into early part of June i.e. 2
weeks before schedule. Company had to prepone EOSS because of the industry
starting early and not because of the company’s inventory situation.
There is SSSG decline. Inflation and wedding shift have impacted performance.
Company is looking forward to the festive season.
Growth in the mass category was lower than the premium category.
Stores:
Last two quarters company has seen net COCO additions but focus is on
franchise.
Company has done significant store additions for last 18 months. Expects this to
continue for the next couple of quarters.
Other:
Company is seeing export orders come through. 1/3rd of the global production
of Bata, happens in India. Approximately 100mn pairs are sold globally. Majority
of this is sold in China and Bata is looking at this as an opportunity.
Company has done 3PL of its largest warehouses which will help moderate
employee costs. Similarly with its warehouse in South India.
Franchise:
Company has an outright franchise model with capex and inventory spent by
the partner. Margins are in the range of 30-35% for the franchise partner.
Brands:
Hush Puppies was muted due to the shift in the wedding calendar. Casual
portfolio did well. Targeting highest ever store addition in this brand this year.
Open footwear, Sandak have seen lower growth than industry average.
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Brand wise share - Comfit: 8%, Sneakers: 20%, Hush Puppies: 20%.
Outlook:
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Devyani International
Q1FY24
There has been an increase in minimum wage especially in Karnataka, which has
led to the increase in employee expenses. Also, regular increment hikes are
taken from April of every year.
KFC
Material prices have been stable for KFC. Potentially, the worst of the gross
margin pressure is behind.
KFC works well during evening hours with the lunch level being muted. The
value layer is a focus to address that.
PH
Company took a very small price hike to mitigate the gross margin issue and
pressure from flavour fun pizza range launch.
Price hikes along with launch of premium menu helped improve gross margins
QoQ despite the RM increases.
Going back to 15% brand margin could take a few quarters more.
Vaango
Outlook
Even if there is a fall in prices, DIL is not in favour of taking price cuts.
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Gross margin contracted due to an adverse mix (Physical retail, online and own
brands) and pullback of advertising spends.
Pink Summer sale was done last year also. In the last year, company has done 4
sale periods, similar to this year. Many years back, company used to do two sale
periods in a year.
As per Nykaa, one of the trends world over is higher growth in skin care versus
make-up.
Fashion
Company has deprioritized a lot of categories and put focus on the women’s
wear segment
B2B
Hitting peak profitability will take a few years, potentially between 2-6 years.
Others
Off roll warehouse costs have been reclassified as fulfillment expenses. This
number is INR1bn on an annual basis.
Outlook
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Jubilant FoodWorks
Q1FY24
Demand remains patchy even into July. Demand in malls remains muted.
Saw lower footfalls in mall stores, which could have impacted dine-in sales.
Overall, there is no specific factor JFL can highlight.
Domino’s
Bangalore has seen higher level or order led growth driven by the 20 min
delivery
QoQ increase in cheese has moderated. While vegetables have spiked, overall
basket remains under control.
Competition: Pizza is a USD1bn category and the focus is to drive shift from
unorganized to organized. Regional competition is not an issue.
1,400 of the 1,850 stores are in the new Pizza theatres design. This has driven a
12-20% improvement in weekly ADS dine-in sales.
JFL believes that contribution from loyalty programme should be ideally around
60% and not more
Popeyes
Company is looking at more cities in South India. It has drawn up a plan for a
North India entry.
Outlook
Remain commitment for full year guidance for Domino’s and Popeyes
JFL believes margins should remain stable or improve from here unless there is
a significant spike in inflation
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Metro Brands
Q1FY24 performance:
Q1FY23 had a strong base driven by pent-up buying, higher auspicious dates,
wardrobe refresh etc.
Revenues are 82% higher vs pre covid. Store growth is approximately 48-50%
higher. In FY20, revenue/sq.ft was ~INR16,900.
On the gross margin staying stable Metro highlighted that even for non-owned
brands, there are multiple brands where the terms of trade are very much
similar to own brands.
Store addition:
Brands:
Fila:
Company has access to Fila collection library. It also engages design houses
where it feels there is a product gap
Focus is to be affordable premium. Sweet spot of pricing as per Metro for Fila is
INR4,000-6,000.
Company expects some potential disruption and to mitigate the same it has
stocked up inventory.
Customer:
Premium customer higher share is driven by the price hikes the company takes
and also the collection it has put out in its stores.
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Ecommerce:
A lot of the growth is driven by omni channel initiative where more stores are
being linked online. In addition, company is creating an exclusive line of
products.
Online business growth is primarily being driven by the company’s own brands.
Company is not selling premium brands like Da Vinci online. ASP online is
INR1,000.
Outlook:
Continue to see demand for its products remain strong even post the quarter
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Page Industries
Industry:
Q1FY24:
Gross margin contraction was due to the high base impact (higher overhead
absorption). Also, aggressive market environment has impacted.
Page highlighted that secondary sales are in-line with primary sales.
Company had taken a price hike in August 2022. At present, there is no need to
take a price hike.
Category:
In women’s market, the organized category is very low. Company has formed
dedicated teams for women and Junior, which as per Page is already having
some benefits. Margin in both these categories are similar to the company
average.
Men’s premium category is having the highest growth across Page’s category.
Athleisure is going through a flux across the industry.
Expansion:
ARS implementation:
Impact of ARS has been taken care of. There is no impact to sales.
Manufacturing:
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Outlook:
Last two weeks has seen some improvement. Too early at this point to give any
outlook. Company is hoping for some improvement in demand during festive
season.
Normal advertising spend range is between 4-4.5%. The spends will pick-up in
the later part of the year.
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INR99 menu is the 2.0 value strategy. This has driven a high 7% traffic growth in
dine-in.
The company has not taken any price hikes this quarter. Gross margins were
maintained driven by Café business, in addition to leverage in procurement. Had
the INR99 menu not been launched, GM would have been higher by 100bp.
Looking at multiple product layer: Premium layer, Whopper and value layer.
This will be supported by the Café offerings.
SSSG was driven by dine in traffic. SSTG in dine-in was 10% plus with SSSG of
7%.
RBA highlighted while value is one layer, premium is also an important element.
During Festive, RBA plans to advertise the Whopper range further.
BK Indonesia
BK Indonesia stores has been rationalised; the company may rationalize a few
more, specifically in malls that saw lower footfalls post-covid. This shall be
completed next quarter. Looking at rationalising single-digit count of stores.
For burger players generally 70% is Chicken and 30% is other meat. For BK, it
was the other way round.
Popeye’s
Other
Looking at increasing digital penetration – kiosk, table ordering and 100% known
guests in both geographies.
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Sapphire Foods
Q1FY24
Seen RM inflation cooling off which has helped improve gross margins improve
in both brands
KFC
GM benefit along with tighter cost control drove one of the highest Restaurant
EBITDA margin
Majority of the gross margin benefit has played out. Company is targeting a
restaurant margin of 20%.
Pizza Hut
While SSSG was down, company has not seen any decline in transactions
While company has got the product and value equation right , company has to
build consumer franchise
As per the company, potentially the presence of multiple regional players is also
impacting performance
While company launched 10 core pizzas, it removed another 12. Last time this
exercise was done was four years ago
Sri Lanka
Inflation in month of June has come down to 10% vs, 80-90% last Oct-Nov.
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Shoppers Stop
Q1FY24 performance
Q1FY23 had the benefit of pent-up demand. LTL growth for Q1FY24 was 1%.
Mass and masstige segment in Apparel remain under pressure. Overall branded
business is ahead due to Beauty and Non-apparel. Share of private apparel in
overall apparel was flat YoY. The western womenswear segment (especially
jeans) and sleepwear struggled.
June has been better, and July continues on trends similar to June.
Store addition
Company would have opened 2-3 department stores, which got delayed due to
pending approvals.
Guntur and Cochin were to open in March. Both these stores did not get their
occupation certificate. Guntur will open on 10th of August and Cochin will open
on 19th August.
The company expects five stores by H1FY24 and three stores to open in Q3FY24.
Intune
ASP is INR450–500.
Others
The company plans to churn 20–25% of brands to keep the freshness of looks
for customer.
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Beauty
Beauty distribution
Capex
Capex will be around INR2bn (including technology opex spends) per annum to
be funded via internal accruals
Working capital
WC increased due to higher procurement on SOR basis and lower sale of private
label
Net borrowing will be INR1-1.2bn until Q2FY24 given the shift in festive season,
Expects significant cash generation by December driven by festive and post
EOSS in December.
Outlook
Margin guidance of high single digit remains (Pre INDAS EBITDA + OI on gross
sales).
Medium term target is to achieve high single digit low double-digit growth
revenue growth. Majority of the growth will be mix (premiumzation) and
volume driven. SS has no plans to take price hikes.
Without new initiatives (Intune, footwear private label, SS Beauty online), costs
would have increased by 6–7% versus the reported 10%. Ssbeauty.in
investment related to building the platform is done, incremental investment on
marketing. Company expects Intune to break-even in Y1 itself.
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Titan Company
Jewellery
Demand in April was muted in the first half, which picked up in the second part
of the month. May was muted, but June saw a spurt in demand. Also,
moderation in gold prices during June aided demand.
The Jewellery margins are very much a part of the scheduling for the year.
Guidance of 12–13% margins remains.
Exchange plus wedding as a combo has helped delivered the strong growth.
Gold Exchange Programme: Overall 50% was the share of gold exchange in
Q1FY24. The share of non-Tanishq gold was 35% in gold exchange and 15% in
Tanishq gold exchange. Typically, this is 31% for Non Tanishq and 9-10% for
Tanishq.
Margin protection will come from 1) Geography mix 2) Product mix – Work on
studded and wedding 3) Lightweight jewellery has potential for higher gross
margins. As per company, it is not competition but the current volatile
environment, which has motivated action.
Q2/Q4 are high studded ratio quarters, which drives margins higher.
Capital employed has come down due to GOL coming down to 27% versus 50%
on average. This will get corrected in due course. Capital employed will start
correcting in coming quarters.
July has been as good as Q1FY24. Titan is not counting any adverse impact of
adhik maas in its expectation for Q2FY24.
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International Jewellery
On course to do better than what Titan guided during analyst meet last year.
Focus remains on Indian Diaspora. Titan mentioned that in Abu Dhabi has a
decent share of non-Indians customers.
Analog has seen a decline in volumes. Wearables has seen a significant increase
in volumes.
Eyecare
Outlook
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Varun Bevgerages
Q2CY23:
One of the plants supplying juices in North India was impacted by heavy rains.
This led to a contraction in juices volumes.
Capex:
New capacity in Congo and India will be operational before start of next season
Of the three plants, company is targeting to open one of the plants in CY23.
Company may come back to last year’s debt figure by end of CY23.
International business:
VBL remains in constant discussion with Pepsico Global. Hence any opportunity
that comes up, company will evaluate.
South Africa per capita consumption is ~50% higher than India. The market is
more than 1bn cases.
Products:
Dairy and Tropicana sales are more focused in the North. This will change by
next year’s key season period as capacity improves.
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Vedant Fashions
Industry
Q1FY24
H1FY23 was 42% of business which is much higher than historic trends
Las time such a phenomenon happened was in Q1FY17. May-June had low
wedding dates but overall for FY17, the company ended the year with a 16-17%
growth. Approximately 66% of the business was done in H2 of the year.
Growth in non-groom segment was faster than groom segment. This, as per the
company, was driven by the recent campaign of the company
Other expenses include carriage, job works, marketing and lease. Majority of
the components are fixed. Very limited proportion of stores are on revenue
share basis.
There was growth across all metrics like ABS, ABV etc.
Products
Twamev
Twamev will be a format where 2 store staff will attend to a customer versus 1
on 1 in Manyavar
VFL already signed 2 new stores. Plans to sign 3–4 more in the coming year.
Twamev has been opened with the best performing franchises of VFL
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Customer insights
Mohey
In terms of flagship EBO, it will take some time. Hoping for the EBO to be
launched in early Q3FY24.
Mohey had slow but decent growth. Mohey got introduced in 7 new stores.
Competition
Store expansion
Outlook
In Q3FY24 no. of wedding dates are ~50% higher YoY. H2 overall is 30-40%
higher.
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V-Mart Retail
Industry performance
Rains have been normal except for UP and parts of West Bengal
Q1FY24
Shifting to new warehouses had some impact on performance in June and July
East and North east demonstrated strong progress. AP and Telangana were
bottom performers. South SSSG was -11%.
Kirana inventory also includes warehouse. Store level Kirana inventory is around
50 days and warehouse is around 10 days.
Stores
Majority of Tier III cities are located in UP, which remains under pressure.
Company has been facing some issues in footfall counting. The growth in
footfalls is partially a clerical issues. Also, conversion is lower due to additional
supply in the market.
Company’s focus will remain on core Vmart customers. Not keen on ultra-fast
fashion value customers.
Unlimited
Unlimited’s margin is higher on Post IND basis due to higher rent component.
On Pre IND AS VMart would be higher.
LimeRoad
Proper control on cost via data has driven part of the improvement in
contribution margin.
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Supply chain
Design
60% of customers who shop are women. Collection is focusing on young families
and youth.
Outlook
Debt will increase by the end of Q2. By end of the FY24, debt will be flat YoY.
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Specialty Chemicals
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Aarti Industries
Factors impacting demand
Decreased revenues due to volume decline, drop in prices of key raw materials
(RM), and margin contraction caused by excessive supply from China.
Weakness is more driven by inventory correction across the channel while end
user industry demand like in agrochem is still not impacted at farmer level
Long-term contracts and demand for specific additive products remained strong.
Demand in domestic market are hit due to excessive dumping from China and
lower prices and yuan depreciation
Negative operating leverage hit PAT while lower tax rates help
Demand weakness in industries like Dyes and Pigments, Agrochemicals, and Auto
led to EBITDA performance decline, with gradual recovery expected in H2 FY24.
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Key cost elements, such as energy prices and RM costs, exhibited normalization
trends and fluctuations in Q1 FY24. The company's robust pricing mechanisms
aimed to offset volatility and protect customers from price shifts.
Current quarter benefited from lower tax rates (3%) as company enjoyed MAT
credit on commissioning of cogen plant. Expect tax rates to be 10% for current
year
Given current weakness in global agrochem market and weak herbicide markets
globally due to drought in global market, AIL is still contemplating for
opportunities to change in strategies at this plant and expect to decide over next
two quarters
Though environment remain uncertain, it has earlier guided for FY25 EBITDA at
INR17bn led by pick up in utilisation of incurred capex. Though due to
uncertainity, company refrain from commenting on its previous target, it
believes that there can be deviation of 10% as growth is pushed ahead
Current net debt is at INR26.5bn with gross debt of INR30bn. Company don’t
expect net debt / equity going above 0.7x at peak.
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Anupam Rasayan
Business highlights
Revenue growth in current quarter is impacted by global weakness due to
inventory liquidation
Capex on track
Company incurred capex of INR1,240mn till Q1FY24 out of the INR6,700mn
announced, with majority of the capex to be incurred as per plan in FY24.
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Deepak Nitrite
Financials
PAT performance decreased due to demand and a decline in product values. The
first quarter also saw an additional impact on PAT due to destocking activities.
DNL experienced notable fluctuations in exchange rates between USD and INR,
with a high point of 82.85 and a low of 81.61. Company adopted dynamic hedging
tactics. As a result, there was a profit of INR 2.4 mn in Q1FY24. This contributed
to an overall treasury gain of INR 88.4 mn
DPL's Net Debt to Equity ratio was 0.03x, improved versus previous year's 0.13x.
Business Update
Overall performance was affected by challenges across the industry related to
inventory reduction and continued sluggishness in European and other markets.
In May 2023, the company achieved highest ever production in SNI production.
Advance Intermediates revenues flattish YoY at INR 7.19 Bn. Sodium Nitrite plant
working at lower utilisation levels.
Phenolics
The Phenol plant achieved its highest daily production record, although it also
underwent an annual shutdown of 15 days during the quarter.
Revenues for Phenolics segment fell 19% YoY to INR 10.89 Bn.
Revenue and EBITDA decline was in-line with contraction of Phenol spreads
during the quarter on a Y-o-Y basis due to disproportionate imports from China.
Demand for phenol is growing, but supply has been significantly faster.
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Under this agreement, DCTL will engage in the production of Specialty Chemicals,
Phenol, Acetone, and Bisphenol within the state of Gujarat. Around INR 35 bn is
to be attributed towards Phenolics segment and the rest towards Specialty
chemicals
Capex
New projects to come up mostly on the basis of contractual agreements.
However brownfield expansions to be on contractual as well as non-contractual
basis.
Brown field projects of increasing existing process and product lines are expected
to be commissioned by FY24 end
Outlook
Deepak Phenol results in Q2FY24 to be better on YOY and QoQ basis, although
Deepak nitrite results to be flattish on YoY but likely to witness sequential
recovery
DNL’s EBITDA margins for FY24 to range around 20-22%, while at consolidated
levels it shall remain at 15-18%
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Fine Organics
Capacity utilisation reached optimum level during last quarter. However
Patalganaga plant has still to reach optimum utilisation
Expect capacity constraints next year, will not be able to take new customers till
new plants comes on stream. No scope of debottlenecking, scope of mix
improvement also limited
Greenfield plant at Gujarat is still awaited for approvals from the government
Domestic demand is strong while global demand, mainly from the US is showing
weakness as channel resumes to inventory destocking. Destocking is happening
with fall in RM prices and easing of supply and logistic challenges
Top line was impacted by moderation in RM prices and decline in freight rates.
RM prices broadly has corrected with no visibility in near term
FOIL has gained market share in the US / Europe and to ensure uninterrupted
supplies to its key customers, FOIL is also exploring opportunities in setting up
plant or acquisition opportunity in the US
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Galaxy Surfactants
Performance highlights
This has been a relatively stable quarter with progressive improvement of supply
side factors along with pickup in demand ensured a healthy 7.4% Volume growth
for this quarter.
AMET Volumes Flat YoY but decline QoQ on account of the Eid Holidays
Performance Surfactant's
Speciality Care
Fatty Alcohol prices in this quarter decreased to an average price of $ 1,240 /MT vs,
average prices of $ 2,287 /MT in Q1FY23. The same was $ 1,403 /MT in Q4FY23
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Gujarat Fluorochemicals
Financial Highlights
Consolidated revenue in Q1FY24 stood at INR12.1bn, reflecting a YoY decline of
9%.
The consolidated PAT for Q1FY24 reached INR2bn, showing a YoY reduction of
34%. Despite destocking challenges, the Advance Materials business (specifically
fluoropolymers) continues to perform well.
Bulk chemicals
Revenues for Q1FY24 declined 43% YoY to INR 1.67 bn
Throughout the quarter, the plants were operating at their maximum capacity.
The prices of caustic soda and MDC remained low due to excessive production
capacities and decreased demand.
Both demand and prices are expeted to stay subdued in the upcoming quarters.
Fluorochemicals
Revenues for Fluorochemicals remained stable YoY at INR 3.3bn.
Fluoropolymers
Fluoropolymers segment reported revenues of INR 6.74 bn, similar to Q1FY23
Despite the decline in export volumes due to destocking, prices have remained
consistent. Foresee a positive trend in prices in the upcoming quarters, driven by
enhancements in the product mix.
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Though overall capex plans remain intact including R32 as of now. However,
management is expecting pick up in approvals from battery manufacturers for
EVs in near term is likely to drive growth visibility.
Industry scenario is right now challenging, as even EVs in China and Europe have
witnessed some moderation. Though it is expected to remain short lived, as most
of this is driven by inventory destocking.
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Jubilant Ingrevia
Specialty chemicals
Demand from Agrochemical customers globally continues to face headwinds due
to exceptionally higher pipeline inventories.
Global coal prices are going down and customer expectations are adjusting
accordingly; however the realisations to improve coming forward. Business
continue to focus on optimising energy cost through various initiatives both on
generations as well as on consumption side.
Witnessed lower price realisation in the segment due to pricing pressure from
Agro end-use of Acetic Anhydride and lower realisation of Ethyl Acetate in
Exports market.
Capex
Newly commissioned Acetic Anhydride plant at Bharuch is ramping up as
expected.
NHI business developmental work for Food grade Vitamin B4 is almost over and
business is at advance stage of finalising capex for GMP compliant facility of
Vitamin B4, approval shall take place in the ensuing quarter.
GMP and non-GMP plants for CDMO products, commissioned in the last quarter
are ramping up as per plan and are helping to meet increased demand from
CDMO customers.
FY24 cash outflow for capex INR6-7bn, FY25 cash outflow to be about INR5bn,
capacity utilisations to reach 70% by the end of FY24.
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PCBL
Financials
In Q1FY24, the consolidated sales volume was 123,086MT. Sales volumes for
tyre segment/performance chemical/specialty black amounted to 82,737MT/
28,569 MT/11,780 MT.
Sudden jump in tax rate due to completion of 17 years of gestation period of tax
benefits for power business.
Capex
The first phase of the greenfield facility in TN was commissioned in mid-April.
During the quarter, PCBL (TN) achieved production volume of 6,296MT and sales
volume of 5,028MT. Utilisation rates of this plant stood at 40-45%.
Outlook
PCBL continues to experience increasing demand for specialty black, including
new customer additions.
The company remains cautious about the global demand outlook, considering
the impact of high inflation in developed economies on consumption.
The long-term prospects of the specialty segment appear positive, and PCBL
expects sustained growth momentum in business potential. The margins in the
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specialty segment are expected to remain strong, driven by changes in the global
supply chain, consumption patterns, and robust demand.
The company has taken various initiatives to expand its presence in overseas
markets and is focused on increasing the contribution of exports to total sales.
From FY24, PCBL expects to add capacity of 80-100,000tonnes per year to sustain
the increasing demand, capex shall amount to INR 50-60,000/ tonne
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PI Industries
Q1FY24 performance highlights
Achieved strong 24% YoY revenue growth (21% excluding Pharma segment).
Notable 33% export growth (excluding Pharma), driven by 29% volume increase
and favorable dynamics in pricing, currency, and product mix.
Pharma contributed INR 443 mn (3% of total revenue) with growth in Q1 FY24.
Improved Gross Margin to 47% (+267 basis points) due to better product mix and
Pharma business.
EBITDA grew by 35% to INR 4,726 mn, with a 209 basis points improvement in
margin due to product mix and operating leverage.
PAT increased by 46% due to EBITDA growth and lower ETR despite higher
depreciation.
Though weak monsoon has impacted domestic sales. July month has witnessed
significant improvement is likely to drive demand in kharif season.
Of acquired assets in pharma, company expects near term EBITDA margins at 14-
15% range. However with higher utilization and efficiency bring in, margins in
next 2 year to reach to 20-22%.
Excluding the addition of Pharma assets, the capex stands at INR 1,241 mn
(compared to INR 506 mn in Q1FY23).
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Trade working capital, in terms of Days of Sales, improved to 83 by June 30, 2023,
compared to 102 days as on June 30, 2022.
Guidance
Maintains guidance of 18-20% growth in revenues excluding revenues from
pharma. Though is sees strong growth visibility for its products and not seeing
any inventory destocking like situation in its products basket, it remain cautious
on growth outlook given global uncertainty.
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SRF
Specialty chemical business
Inventory rationalization by customers, some PO rescheduling, currently being
witnessed
Ongoing projects progressing as per plan. Expected to commission over the next
few quarters; likely to contribute positively going forward
Certain key raw material prices continue to show signs of softening; still higher
than their long-term average
Outlook
Fluorochemicals business
Business performance was impacted due to Chinese dumping across geographies
due to weak local demand. Weak domestic summer season impacted HFCs
demand. Industrial chemicals witnessed lower demand due to stagnant pharma
and agro industry
Outlook
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Several BOPP & BOPET film lines commissioned in India and globally in the recent
past, some deferment / delays being witnessed
Phase – 1 of the Solid Woven Fabric, which is a part of the Belting Fabrics
portfolio successfully commissioned
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Textiles
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Welspun India
Operating cash flow continued to increase due to the capital employed and the
fall in debt.
The footfalls in the sales are looking to improve in the coming months and does
indicate a positive market sentiment for the quarter.
Company was able to bag new customers in the USA and Middle East for
prestigious hospitality projects and they have signed contracts with hospitality
chains in EU. They have good orders in pipeline for export customers.
The new logo symbolizes the company's dedication towards doing things right
and doing the right things. They are also looking to call it as Wellspun Living and
adopting this nomenclature expects to have new adaptability and company's
approach to changing new market dynamics.
The company has guided to reduce net debt INR10bn by FY24-end. They have
also guided for 10% annualised sales growth in FY24/FY25 with potential EBITDA
margins of 15%.
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Telecom
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Route Mobile
Q1 is traditionally not a strong quarter. Sequential de-growth in revenue due to
sharp devaluation of Naira currency and decline in traffic of players acquired in
last quarter. Overall, 29.5bn transactions processed in the quarter
Signed direct contract with world’s largest ecommerce and cloud computing
company for CPaaS services in 10 countries including India.
Expect to increase it based on deal closing in coming periods. A large global deal
win and few large firewall deals in pipeline provides good prospects for
FY24Working on the GTM together
Route Mobile connection with operators in high growth areas will help Telesign
expand their services
Reinvestment in Proximus Opal aligns interest and look for value creation
Already working out on synergy blueprint with the transition team and Telesign
team and engaging a global consulting firm
Presents sizable revenue opportunity for Route Mobile from ILD volume
Cost savings will be done by optimising the joint fixed costs and labour
consolidation
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Sterlite Technologies
Strategic priorities remain the same: grow optical networking business
532 operators have invested in 5G as of June 2023. 254 have already launched
commercial 5G services. 41 carriers in 20 countries have launched standalone
5G networks
China Mobile tender awarded to industry of 108mn fkm for 2023-2024. Share
well distributed between key players
Global market share ex China remained stable at 11% in H123. Expect market
share to increase H2FY24 onwards
OFC volume lower QoQ. Realisation lower qoq on account of geographical mix
Looking to increase share in EMEA India and APAC to fill volume gaps from US
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Miscellaneous
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Balkrishna Industries
Q1FY24 volume loss stood at 4,000–5,000MT, owing to disruptions at the Bhuj
plant and the Mundra port (on account of cyclone Biparjoy in June).
In Q1FY24, the Agri segment share reduced to 58.5% (64% in Q1FY23), while OTR
share increased to 37.8% (32.8%). OEM share reduced to 26% (27.8%), while
replacement share increased to 71.8% (69.8%).
The OEM segment market share gains are expected to sustain in FY24.
The market share goal stands at 10%, to be reached in three–four years versus
current market share at 5–6%.
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Bharat Forge
In Q1, new orders stood at INR2bn, relating to PV and Industrial segments.
Oil & Gas segment expected to witness flat revenue growth in FY24.
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PDS
Value-accretive Ted Baker acquisition
Ted Baker acquisition was completed in June 2023 for INR1.5 bn. The company saw
an incremental INR 300mn revenue from this business with a 9% PAT. Company aims
to generate INR4-5bn in revenues from this acquisition.
Higher tax rate led by TED Baker profits, change in Bangladesh tax
structure
Ted Baker operates in the UK, wherein taxation is higher. TED baker contributed to
top line in Q1FY24. Besides, Bangladesh government has increased taxation from
0.5% to 1% on receivables.
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In Q1FY24, RHI exiting capacity operated at 85% utilisaiton, while Dalmia and Hi-
Tech operated at 54% capacity utilisation (Q4: 51% CU). Overall RHI operated at
an average capacity utilisation of 64%.
Dalmia margin in Q1FY24 improved to 12.6% v/s 10.2% in Q4FY23 along with Hi-
Tech margin that improved to 22.6% compared to 17.1% in Q4FY23.
RHI’s current debt position stands at INR5bn. The company has successfully
repaid the debt of INR9.8bn taken for acquisition through money received from
QIP(INR7.5bn) and remaining INR2.3bn though internal accruals. The company
has cash balance of INR3.6bn.
The working capital days reduced to 87days compared to the peak of 105days in
H1FY22.
RHI capex plan of INR3bn remains intact for the refurbishment of Dalmia and Hi-
Tech unit. However, management is not aggressive to spend it immediately. It
plans to utilise it over the next 3-5 years. RHI’s focus is to optimise the production
facility at both Hi-Tech and Dalmia without much capex.
Dalmia OCL’s name has been changed to RHI Magnesita Refractories Ltd (RHIRL)
wef 9th of August 2023
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Sheela Foam
Q1FY24
The company rationalised the sales of Sleepx online, which led to the fall in
volumes. Sleepwell’s performance has been stable.
There was a one-off forex loss of INR100mn in Q4FY23, which did not accrue.
Also, the company kept costs under tight control given the moderation in
volumes due to Sleepx drawdown.
One-off charge: The fire incident happened at a vendor facility, which was
owned by SFL.
Brands
Going forward, the Sleepx brand will be gradually rationalised. The brand will
be priced higher to make it profitable. SFL will not focus on driving sales.
Exports at present are facing a headwind. Anti-dumping duty has been imposed
in the US.
Acquisition:
SFL has ensured than Furlenco turns EBITDA-positive by October and PAT-
positive by end-December. It won’t need any further cash infusion as per SFL.
Outlook
In FY24, the company expects net debt to EBITDA to end at 2–2.5x, and this
should be less than 1x beyond that as Kurl-on also gets integrated.
Majority of the future capex will be for maintenance. This will be approximately
INR100mn each for SFL and Kurl-on.
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Solar Industries
Business highlights
SOIL achieved higher revenue & margins despite the negative impact of currency
fluctuation & falling raw material prices
Two new greenfield projects in India are expected to commission during the year
In current quarter, there were unseasonal rains, especially in the north part of
the country. So that has impacted demand from housing sector. But it is
expecting strong demand from Q3 onwards
Raw material prices year-on-year basis, have come down by 35% and on from
the previous Q4 it has come down by 13%.
Current order book (ex-defence) has reduced as the Coal India orders are likely
to be completed by the month of October this year and company is expecting
the new RFPs to come in the month of September. So once it receives the new
orders this order book will jump further
Its recently increased capacity in initiating systems and ancillary which has
supported revenue growth in initiating systems by 43%
Defence
In Q1FY24, it has done INR1.5bn and from Q3 onwards, it is expecting a surge in
our revenue from defense and that will help it to achieve annual guidance of
INR7bn. There is possibility to overshooting it, but as of now it maintains its
guidance.
SOIL has developed many of the products in association with DRDO and
some of the products we are developing on its own. Expect strong product
basket to help drive its defence business.
International business
Last year, it has seen a very strong growth in Nigeria and Turkish, but in this
quarter it has seen that there is a negative impact due to currency fluctuations
and lot of due to political reasons. Management think that all these were stabilize
and from Q3 onwards we will see improvement in business
Among key global markets, most of the markets are EBITDA positive except south
Africa. Management is confident about turning this EBITDA positive in FY24
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Capex plans for FY24 remains at INR7.5bn, out of which it has done ~INR1.2bn in
Q1FY24.
As current net debt is INR7bn. It expects to generate strong free cash flows to
spend in capex from internal accruals. While debt for the current year is likely to
come down further
It expects working capital improvement in current year mainly because in the last
years, it was buying ammonium nitrate from international on advance payments
and now those things have stabilized. Now, those materials are available on
credit
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VIP Industries
Demand/growth
While air travel continued its growth momentum, demand was impacted due to
the wedding season. Also demand was impacted due to higher replacement
cycle in luggage as there was significant purchases last year as travel opened up.
Growth in trade channel was 16% (70% of the revenues) was reasonable.
Balance 30% i.e. CSD and institutional saw contraction. Institutional in last year
was exceptionally high due to one-time Haj order.
Underlying growth would have been better, had there been better supplies.
Margins
Other expenses is higher due to higher advertising expenses, legal fees and
additional warehousing in anticipation of higher business.
Channel
In CSD, the company is replacing 50% of the collection to drive growth back.
Manufacturing
To mitigate the Bangladesh fire company tried double shift, import from China
and appointing vendors in India
The plant which got impacted had a higher share of VIP and Skybags
Company
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Outlook
Going forward, VIP will be moderating A&P spends depending on the demand
environment. Investments in channel will continue.
By FY25, the company is targeting to reach 250 additional towns in total 80% of
the towns with a population above 30,000
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