Hopkinton SGT Termination Timothy Brennan Interview 2-17-2377

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Volume I
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INTERVIEW OF TIMOTHY BRENNAN
HOPKINTON POLICE DEPARTMENT
APPEARANCES:
Names of people present

Daniel Linskey, Managing Director, Kroll
Monica Monticello, Kroll
Timothy Brennan, Hopkinton Police Department
Daniel P. Fogarty, Esq.
Hopkinton, Massachusetts
February 17, 2023
Recording produced by digital audio recording system.

Transcript produced by Donna Holmes Dominguez
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1 I N T E R V I E W
2 MR. LINSKEY: All right, the time is 10:19 A.m. It's
3 2/17/2023. We're in the town hall of the town of Hopkinton.
4 My name is Dan Linskey with Kroll.
5 With me is my associate.
6 MS. MONTICELLO: Monica Monticello with Kroll.
7 MR. LINSKEY: And we are here with the sergeant and his
8 representative. Could you your state your names for the record,
9 gentlemen?
10 SGT. BRENNAN: Timothy Brennan, Sergeant, Hopkinton Mass
11 Police Department.
12 MR. FOGARTY: My name is Dan Fogarty. I'm an attorney at
13 Sandulli Grace.
14 MR. LINSKEY: Thank you, gentlemen.
15 Sergeant, how long have you been employed?
16 MR. FOGARTY: Just before we get in, I wanted to make sure
17 I didn't know if you were going to go over the forms.
18 MR. LINSKEY: Yeah, we can -- we can --
19 MR. FOGARTY: Sergeant Brennan was prevent -- presented
20 with his Carney and Garrity rights. As we discussed before
21 going on the record, having been ordered to be here, Garrity
22 applies in this situation. You know, he is invoking that right
23 under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. As such, he
24 expects to be able to answer your questions here today. He
25 reserves the right to invoke Carney Rights under Article 12 of

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1 the Mass Constitution if necessary. We'll cross that bridge
2 when we come to it.
3 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Thank you, counsel, for going back and
4 putting that on the record.
5 Sergeant, How long you been with Hopkinton PD?
6 SGT. BRENNAN: I've been here 20 years.
7 MR. LINSKEY: And can you just kind of take me through your
8 career, you know, graduated, dates, times and assignments?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, it started before Hopkinton. In
10 March, March 2nd of 1987, I was hired by the Bentley College
11 Police Department as a civilian dispatcher.
12 In November of 1987, I was promoted to a patrol position,
13 went to my first academy, a Campus Police Academy in Needham in
14 January of '88; graduated in March of '88. I worked at Bentley
15 as a patrolman and then was promoted to sergeant in 1992.
16 About five years after starting, I went to my second police
17 academy at the Waltham Police Academy, the Municipal Academy, in
18 February of 1995. I graduated from that academy in June of '95,
19 and then I continued to work at Bentley, went there with the
20 purpose of getting my degree, which I finished up and got my
21 associate's in '93 and my bachelor's in '95.
22 Worked there, was promoted to lieutenant in '97. Worked in
23 that position as patrol lieutenant for a couple of years, and
24 then was assigned as operations lieutenant, as the department
25 grew and changed. Did that till 2002. When I left there, I was
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1 going to go to the State Police, but I was a little too old to
2 do a third academy, so I ended up here in Hopkinton. In
3 Hopkinton, I started back at patrol level and was a patrolman
4 from 2002 till 2005.
5 In 2005, there was an opening to be a school resource
6 officer, and I began that position on July 1st, 2005.
7 MR. LINSKEY: And that's a patrol officer's rank, but it's
8 an assignment?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. Correct.
10 MR. LINSKEY: Okay.
11 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. I did that from 2000 -- July of
12 2005 until January of 2008, where I was then changed, a patrol
13 assignment to detective. I was a detective from 2008 until
14 December of 2014, when I was promoted to sergeant, and I've been
15 in that role since with varying degrees of responsibility, kind
16 of admin sergeant at times, covering other stuff like training
17 and scheduling and building maintenance and things like that.
18 That's my current role.
19 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. We're here investigating reports of
20 conduct by the now Deputy Chief that goes back a period of time.
21 I'm also at a little disadvantage because of the nature of the
22 investigation. I think you well know that's an investigation
23 for the DA's Office, and I don't have all the facts and figures,
24 but I've been given some. It appears that there might have been
25 misconduct allegations that occurred and that the victim of that

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1 misconduct allegations at some point came to you and reported
2 them. Can you talk me through what happened with that?
3 SGT. BRENNAN: So in 2000 and -- actually I don't even know
4 the year. I got to figure out the year. Seven, eight years
5 ago. So it's eight years ago. 2000 --
6 MR. LINSKEY: So that would '15?
7 SGT. BRENNAN: '15.
8 MR. LINSKEY: Well, we're just starting '23. So 2014, '15?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, right around there. The -- the victim
10 was 25 years old, and she disclosed -- disclosed to me that she
11 had been engaged in a consensual affair since she was on her --
12 it started on her 18th birthday, by the -- the defendant in the
13 case now, John Porter.
14 MR. LINSKEY: So 2014, 2015, where were you when this
15 disclosure came out? Do you remember?
16 SGT. BRENNAN: I'm not 100% sure, but I believe we were at
17 the Golden Spoon, which is a restaurant here in Hopkinton.
18 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And what did she say to you? And I --
19 let's just -- I appreciate -- I want to make every effort not to
20 identify the victim. Use any names. Just use the victim if we
21 can.
22 SGT. BRENNAN: I won't use the name. That's all I'm going
23 to use. And I'll -- I'll refer to Porter as the suspect.
24 MR. LINSKEY: There you go.
25 SGT. BRENNAN: Or the subject.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: That'll be good.
2 SGT. BRENNAN: Whatever -- whatever is more PC for you
3 guys. I don't -- I don't care.
4 The victim had called me. So -- so I also her school
5 resource officer for two years.
6 MR. LINSKEY: You were a school resource from '05 to when?
7 SGT. BRENNAN: To '08.
8 MR. LINSKEY: To '08. Okay.
9 SGT. BRENNAN: To January of '08. Basically two and a half
10 years.
11 MR. LINSKEY: What grade was she in at that point?
12 SGT. BRENNAN: When I started, she was -- she had just
13 finished her sophomore year.
14 MR. LINSKEY: Sophomore year of high school. Okay.
15 SGT. BRENNAN: She asked if she could meet me at the Golden
16 Spoon to have a coffee, something that we had done throughout
17 her college years. I did, and she disclosed to me then that she
18 was -- she was pregnant, and then disclosed to me that she had
19 been having a consensual affair with the suspect since her 18th
20 birthday.
22 SGT. BRENNAN: And she was 25 at the time.
23 MR. LINSKEY: And was it her belief that the baby was the
24 suspect's baby?
25 SGT. BRENNAN: I asked that question, and she said, no,

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1 he's not able to have a baby because he had a vasectomy.
3 SGT. BRENNAN: She had a boyfriend at the time and told me
4 that it was his baby.
5 MR. LINSKEY: And what did she tell you about the
6 relationship she had with the suspect?
7 SGT. BRENNAN: She told me that she had been -- when she
8 was 18, he called her and went by her dorm room and they started
9 a sexual relationship and then when --
10 MR. LINSKEY: Went by her dorm room where?
11 SGT. BRENNAN: Mass College of Pharmacy.
12 MR. LINSKEY: Mass College of Pharmacy. Okay.
13 SGT. BRENNAN: In Boston. Not in Worcester, Boston.
14 MR. LINSKEY: Yep, right on -- right on -- right off of
15 Longwood Avenue.
16 SGT. BRENNAN: I'm not sure of the address. I just know
17 she -- that's the school she went to for nursing, she told him
18 that -- she told me that they started an affair on that date,
19 and then when she got pregnant, it stopped.
20 MR. LINSKEY: So she started an affair when she was 18,
21 which was 2000 and --
22 SGT. BRENNAN: I can figure this out. Hold on a second.
23 She graduated 17, so senior at 17, junior at 16. Sophomore at
24 15, so 2005, 6, 2007.
25 MR. LINSKEY: 2007 is when the relationship started.

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1 SGT. BRENNAN: I believe so because she turned 18 in
2 September of 2017, I believe. I'm sorry, I'm not 100% sure of
3 that.
4 MR. LINSKEY: That's okay, I want you to be as accurate as
5 you can. September 2017, she was 18.
6 SGT. BRENNAN: No. No, that's wrong.
7 MR. LINSKEY: 2017 is when she graduated.
8 SGT. BRENNAN: No. No, she graduated -- she was a
9 sophomore when I met -- when I met her, and that was in June of
10 2005.
11 MR. LINSKEY: So 2005 --
12 SGT. BRENNAN: She's a sophomore in high school.
13 MR. LINSKEY: She's a sophomore in high school.
14 SGT. BRENNAN: And so she'd be 15 then.
15 MR. LINSKEY: So 2006, she's a junior.
16 SGT. BRENNAN: She turned 16 in September.
17 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, and --
18 SGT. BRENNAN: No, hold on. Hold on. Yes, 16 in September
19 of 2006.
21 SGT. BRENNAN: 17 senior year, September of 2017, so I'm
22 sorry. Oh, my God. 2005, sophomore. 15 -- 2006.
23 MR. LINSKEY: She's a junior.
24 SGT. BRENNAN: Six, she's a junior. 17, September.
25 MR. LINSKEY: 2007.

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1 SGT. BRENNAN: I'm sorry, 16. 2007. She's a senior -- no,
2 she graduated in 7.
3 MR. FOGARTY: So how old is she now? If you don't mind me.
4 SGT. BRENNAN: She's 33 now.
5 MR. FOGARTY: Okay, 33. So would she have been 18 around
6 2008?
7 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes.
8 MR. FOGARTY: And you're typically a freshman in college
9 when you're 18.
10 SGT. BRENNAN: She turned 18 at the -- in September of her
11 freshman year in college.
12 MR. FOGARTY: Okay, so is it fair to say it was around
13 2008?
14 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes. Which is 2007.
15 MR. LINSKEY: Or is it 2015. She's 33 now?
16 MR. FOGARTY: She's 33 now.
18 MR. FOGARTY: So she would have been 18 15 years ago.
19 MR. LINSKEY: 2033 minus --
20 MS. MONTICELLO: 2023.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Yeah, that'll help. 2005. Wait --
22 SGT. BRENNAN: That's what I met her.
23 MR. LINSKEY: That's -- you met her. Okay.
24 SGT. BRENNAN: That's when I -- I knew of her before then,
25 but I didn't really know her.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, so --
2 MR. FOGARTY: 15 years ago would have been 2008, but since
3 we don't know September to -- you know, so it's fall 2007 maybe,
4 or fall 2008 depending on when she graduated.
5 SGT. BRENNAN: Let me figure this out. Give me one second.
6 MS. MONTICELLO: Yeah, if she's 33 now.
7 MR. FOGARTY: If she's 33 today, it would have been the
8 fall of 2007.
9 MS. MONTICELLO: Yes. She would have been born in 1990,
10 which would make it --
11 SGT. BRENNAN: That's when she'd be 18. That's correct.
12 MS. MONTICELLO: Yeah. Okay.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, I was scribbling. What did we come up
14 with?
15 MS. MONTICELLO: Fall of 2007.
16 MR. FOGARTY: Fall of 2007.
17 MR. LINSKEY: Fall of 2007 is her 18th birthday.
18 SGT. BRENNAN: And her freshman year in college.
19 MR. LINSKEY: And her freshman year in college.
20 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct.
21 MR. LINSKEY: You had known her a couple of years prior as
22 the SRO when she was in high school.
24 MR. LINSKEY: So in 2007, September, she starts a
25 consensual relationship and that -- she described it as that?

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1 SGT. BRENNAN: She did. And I know her birthday just
2 because it's a unique one. September 11.
3 MR. LINSKEY: Certainly is. Okay. She's telling you this
4 when?
5 SGT. BRENNAN: So she's 25, sometime in her -- her 25th
6 year. I don't know exactly when I could -- I could figure it
7 out by finding out when her child was born. I think she was
8 about five months pregnant when she told me because I remember
9 being able to tell that she was pregnant. She was very thin
10 then.
11 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. So I think she had the baby somewhere
12 around February 26, 2016?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: That's quite possible.
14 MR. LINSKEY: So then it would have been February, January,
15 November, October. September. It would have been near her
16 birthday in '15 when she had this conversation with you about
17 being pregnant?
18 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, I just knew -- I just know her age at
19 the time.
20 MR. LINSKEY: Yep.
21 SGT. BRENNAN: And again, I -- I never made any notes or
22 wrote anything down at any point through any of this until I got
23 this letter.
24 MR. LINSKEY: All right. So you're at the restaurant, she
25 tells you she's pregnant, and was she happy about the pregnancy?
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1 SGT. BRENNAN: She didn't say.
2 MR. LINSKEY: Didn't say. Was she upset? Was she coming
3 to you -- was she kind of like, hey, I just want to let you
4 know?
5 SGT. BRENNAN: I think that's more what it was like.
7 SGT. BRENNAN: Just to let you know I'm pregnant.
8 MR. LINSKEY: And that she was having a relationship with
9 the subject.
11 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Had you known about a relationship
12 with the subject prior to that?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: No.
14 MR. LINSKEY: Had you ever seen them out in town before?
16 MR. LINSKEY: Ever heard any gossip in the police station
17 about it?
19 MR. LINSKEY: Do you know if they were public about their
20 relationship or was it always at a dorm room, someplace private,
21 or did they go out in public?
22 SGT. BRENNAN: The places that she told me that they would
23 meet, where -- her apartment, and this is my best of my
24 recollection. Again, when she's 25 is eight years ago. Her
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1 MR. LINSKEY: Apartment and dorm. Okay.
2 SGT. BRENNAN: And his house in Hopedale.
3 MR. LINSKEY: His house in Hopedale.
5 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Did it ever come to light that she
6 used to babysit for the suspect?
7 SGT. BRENNAN: She did. She told me that.
8 MR. LINSKEY: She told you that?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: Uh-huh.
10 MR. LINSKEY: Did you know that prior? When you were an
11 SRO, did you know that she was babysitting for him?
12 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't think so, no. But she did babysit
13 for me.
14 MR. LINSKEY: She babysit for you?
15 SGT. BRENNAN: And my wife.
16 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. What year was that?
17 SGT. BRENNAN: When she was a junior and senior in high
18 school.
19 MR. LINSKEY: Junior senior high school. Is that why you
20 think she trusted you to come forward and have this conversation
21 because you guys were in a relationship where --
22 SGT. BRENNAN: It's quite possible, yeah.
23 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And she never mentioned babysitting
24 for him?
25 SGT. BRENNAN: I can't -- I can't remember. I can't say

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1 for sure that she did or did.
2 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. All right. So we're at 2015, she
3 tells you she's having a baby and she tells you that she was
4 having an affair with the subject since September of I believe
5 we've got it at '07. And it was consensual.
6 SGT. BRENNAN: I'm not sure it was September. It was
7 sometime in her 18th --
8 MR. LINSKEY: After -- after her 18th birthday.
10 MR. LINSKEY: Sometime after 18th -- September of --
11 SGT. BRENNAN: It -- it started on her birthday. I'm
12 specific about that.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. So September 11, 2007.
14 SGT. BRENNAN: And she told me when she was 25, at what
15 point during 25 and being pregnant, I'm not sure.
16 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And prior to her telling you that, you
17 -- you had no knowledge of that, no one in the police department
18 mentioned it to you?
20 MR. LINSKEY: No citizen said to you, hey, is the subject
21 dating a former student?
22 SGT. BRENNAN: Nothing.
23 MR. LINSKEY: Fast forward. At some point, I believe the
24 victim comes forward to you again and comes up with some
25 additional information.
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2 MR. LINSKEY: Can you walk me through that.
3 SGT. BRENNAN: Again, probably having coffee somewhere. I
4 don't remember where. Could possibly be the Spoon. Because
5 that's where we normally just get a bite eat or a cup of coffee.
6 MR. LINSKEY: How often would you interact with her?
7 SGT. BRENNAN: I would probably talk to her through college
8 every six to eight months. Like when she got her grades, she'd
9 call me. I was one that would -- that reassured her that she
10 was a good kid, a good student, that once she left Hopkinton and
11 she would do wonderful things. And I think she looked at me as
12 kind of like someone that she wanted to tell if she got good
13 grades or tell if she made the Dean's List and stuff like that.
14 So every six or eight months we seem to talk.
16 SGT. BRENNAN: Usually on the phone, but once in a while
17 she'd be coming through town, her mother still lived in town,
18 have a cup of coffee or -- I don't drink coffee. Have a bite to
19 eat at the Spoon. She's 28 years old at this point, I think
20 when she told me this, her -- her son was with her and he was
21 obviously about three years old, I think, and she told me that
22 he had given her a ride home one day and stopped and that
23 something had occurred when she was 14 years old.
24 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. What did she say occurred?
25 SGT. BRENNAN: Now what -- what she told me, in my head,

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1 putting my cop head on, was that it equated to an indecent
2 assault and battery. Like there was kissing and inappropriate
3 touching of breasts.
4 MR. LINSKEY: I know -- I know it might be difficult with
5 folks here, but if you could, as best you can recall exactly
6 what she said.
7 SGT. BRENNAN: Oh, I'm not embarrassed.
9 SGT. BRENNAN: What I'm saying in front of her. I -- so
10 what I can tell you is that whatever she said in my brain, it
11 equated to an indecent assault and battery.
12 MR. LINSKEY: What did she say?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: She -- so she said he tried to -- he was
14 kissing her and he was fondling her breasts.
15 MR. LINSKEY: How did his -- the subject come up?
16 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't remember.
17 MR. LINSKEY: So you're meeting. She's having a cup of --
18 she's -- you're having lunch or food or whatever. The baby's
19 there. And she says to you, I just want to tell you --
20 SGT. BRENNAN: That Porter did this to me. She called him
21 Porter, the suspect. Sorry.
23 SGT. BRENNAN: But that's what she called him. He did this
24 to me when he was giving me a ride home one day from school. He
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1 he did to me.
2 MR. LINSKEY: When giving me a ride home from school?
4 MR. LINSKEY: When giving me a ride home from school. And
5 what did she say he did?
6 SGT. BRENNAN: That he -- he kissed her, and he was
7 touching her breasts.
8 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And she was 14, so we -- she was 18 in
9 --
10 SGT. BRENNAN: She -- she said it happened when he was 14,
11 yes.
12 MR. LINSKEY: I just want to make sure we get the time.
13 She was 18 in 2007, so we're taking four years off. We're at
14 2003, right? 4 -- 3 or 4, but she was 14.
17 SGT. BRENNAN: That's what she said.
18 MR. LINSKEY: All right. What did you respond?
19 SGT. BRENNAN: I said, that's a crime. You should report
20 that.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Can you talk me through exactly what you
22 said? Did you just say, that's a crime, you should report it,
23 or did you say, I -- were you shocked, were you --
24 SGT. BRENNAN: I said -- I said that's awful, and that's a
25 crime, you should report that.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Any more conversation besides that's a
2 crime, you should report it? Like, were you --
3 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, she said -- she said --
4 MR. LINSKEY: -- say I can't believe that. Are you kidding
5 me?
6 SGT. BRENNAN: She said, I'm not reporting it. I would
7 never report it.
8 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Do you ask her why?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: She said because no one would believe her.
10 MR. LINSKEY: What did you respond to that.
11 SGT. BRENNAN: Probably said something to the effect of,
12 you'd be surprised what people will believe. I don't -- I don't
13 recall exactly what I said.
15 SGT. BRENNAN: I remember her saying she didn't believe
16 that anyone would believe her because that's what he had told
17 her.
18 MR. LINSKEY: He told her that no one will believe you.
19 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah.
20 MR. LINSKEY: Do you know if -- so your recollection is
21 that she said she was coming -- he gave her a ride home from
22 school?
24 MR. LINSKEY: Did you ever give her a ride home from school
25 as an SRO?
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1 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't believe so, no.
2 MR. LINSKEY: Would it be appropriate for an SRO to give a
3 student a ride home from school?
4 SGT. BRENNAN: It does happen. If it was to happen, you
5 follow the protocols. You always do. Call in the mileage, the
6 time, call in the ending mileage and the time. It's all date
7 and time stamped.
8 MR. LINSKEY: Was this in a police vehicle?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: Okay. You're asking, so I'm going to say
10 it. No, it was not. I learned this later.
11 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, but initially, you thought it was a
12 police vehicle?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, initially. I didn't even ask.
15 SGT. BRENNAN: I didn't know anything. I didn't -- I just
16 said, okay. You know, I didn't know what had happened. Or -- I
17 didn't -- I didn't pry. It was obvious to me by her behavior
18 that it was difficult for her to tell me this.
19 MR. LINSKEY: So what did -- guidance did you give her
20 leaving that conversation?
21 SGT. BRENNAN: She told me she would not report it and that
22 if -- if I reported that, she would say that it never happened.
23 That's not what I said.
24 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Who did you mention it to? Anyone?
25 SGT. BRENNAN: The only person I spoke to it about was my

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1 wife.
2 MR. LINSKEY: No one else in the department?
3 SGT. BRENNAN: No.
4 MR. LINSKEY: Do we know when that was. Was that --
5 SGT. BRENNAN: When she was 28. I know it was three years
6 later. She was 28.
7 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Do you know the season? Was it
8 August?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't.
11 SGT. BRENNAN: For some reason, I -- I put these things in
12 my brain at what her age was.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. So you go home, have a conversation
14 with your wife. I'm sure you're outraged and expressed, can you
15 believe this? What next happens?
16 SGT. BRENNAN: So that's when she's 28. Again, when I say
17 we talk, I would say it was anywhere between every six to eight
18 to nine months, something like that, and we -- we talk again
19 probably within the next year or two or whatever we -- we would
20 talk. So she ended up having another child. She ended up
21 getting -- getting pregnant and have another child with a
22 different man, and she would -- she would call to tell me that,
23 that she was having another baby, so -- excuse me. I'm sorry.
24 MR. LINSKEY: No problem.
25 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't know where that came from. Her

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1 boyfriend, the father of her first child, was a drug addict, and
2 he was -- he's dead now, and he was going through different
3 periods in his life, and she would call me and just bounce
4 things off me, like, I haven't heard from him. I'm wondering if
5 he's dead, stuff like that. So, again, we would talk. Seems
6 like every six, seven, eight months, something like that.
7 MR. LINSKEY: So that -- so 2016, she's -- she's got the --
8 the baby. At some point, you guys have a conversation. 2017 or
9 2016, she alerts you to the fact that a crime occurred. You
10 know, the previous knowledge was that she had a relationship
11 when she was 18, and in fact, Massachusetts is actually 16 for,
12 you know, a consensual relationship if you can believe it or
13 not, but when she says I was 14, he drove me home from school.
14 He, you know, kissed me and fondled my breasts, she doesn't want
15 to move forward with it. You go home and have a conversation
16 with your wife, and at some point, you check back in with her.
17 Do you know if it was the first, second, third check back in
18 before she comes forward with kind of the allegations of wanting
19 to come forward and say something?
20 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't know how many.
22 SGT. BRENNAN: I really don't. I just -- again, in my
23 head, it's -- she's 32 years old, and -- and she's had her
24 second child, and I've -- I met both of her children now as --
25 as infants. And then --

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1 MR. LINSKEY: In 2016, what role was the subject in the
2 Hopkinton Police Department? Do you know?
3 SGT. BRENNAN: 2016 -- well, he was a sergeant with me from
4 December of '14 until February, March of '16, I think, is when
5 he became a lieutenant.
6 MR. LINSKEY: Did you have a conversation with him?
7 SGT. BRENNAN: No.
8 MR. LINSKEY: Ever -- any information about this victim and
9 him and her and a child and the allegations or anything?
10 SGT. BRENNAN: No. The only thing I would ever say was --
11 and it wasn't specifically for him. I would say to other people
12 that knew her, like, in a roll call or something, I'd say, Gee,
13 she's doing well in school. She dean's list, graduating with
14 honors and stuff like that.
15 MR. LINSKEY: Was she a student that had issues?
17 MR. LINSKEY: What types of issues?
18 SGT. BRENNAN: She had behavioral issues.
19 MR. LINSKEY: How would it manifest itself?
20 SGT. BRENNAN: Inability to control her outbursts,
21 sometimes inability to control her behavior. She did disclose
22 to me that when she was that age, she was on
23 MR. LINSKEY: I'm sorry?
24 SGT. BRENNAN: She was on

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1 SGT. BRENNAN: When she was young.
2 MR. LINSKEY: Did you know that when you were an SRO?
3 SGT. BRENNAN: I did, yeah.
5 SGT. BRENNAN: I did know that. She had some behavioral
6 issues, but -- yeah, she had some behavioral issues.
7 MR. LINSKEY: Was she ever arrested?
9 MR. LINSKEY: More than once.
10 SGT. BRENNAN: She was arrested before I became the SRO. I
11 think she was in middle school when she was arrested, so.
12 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Ever after that?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: Not to my knowledge. Definitely not by me
14 or while she was at school with me.
15 MR. LINSKEY: But you had some times at school where you
16 guys had to intervene and deal with her emotional issues of
17 outbursts or whatever?
18 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes. Yes.
20 SGT. BRENNAN: Not on a criminal behavior, but on a -- more
21 of a school environment type of behavior and -- and --
22 MR. LINSKEY: School rules, school -- school decorum.
23 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. Correct. And I was usually able
24 to -- when I was there for two years, to assist her in keeping
25 her from getting out of line.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. You keep up with her. After the
2 initial disclosure that, you know, he assaulted me when I was
3 14, fast forward to she's gone and made a complaint to the
4 District Attorney's Office. And it's my understanding that at
5 some point prior to that, she consulted with you and you guys
6 had a conversation.
7 SGT. BRENNAN: She did.
8 MR. LINSKEY: Can you talk me through that?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: So she's -- again, my age is at 32. It's
10 several months before she decides to -- to go to the DA's
11 Office. She -- she starts to ask me questions whenever she
12 calls me about the process and how it works.
13 MR. LINSKEY: So -- so slow it up. She decided to go to
14 the DA's Office?
15 SGT. BRENNAN: She's asking me questions --
16 MR. LINSKEY: Asking.
17 SGT. BRENNAN: -- about how it would work.
19 SGT. BRENNAN: If she chose to do that, and I told her, I
20 said, you know, Catherine Folder is the Chief of the Child Abuse
21 Unit. That's who you would speak to at the District Attorney's
22 Office. And then she would assign investigators probably to
23 investigate it. And I told her about what a SANE interview is.
24 I was a detective here for six years and I worked at a college
25 for 15, so I did my fair share of rape cases.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: Certified for sexual assault investigations
2 in Mass?
5 SGT. BRENNAN: And so I explained to her what the process
6 would be if she chose to go forward. She was kind of asking a
7 lot of inquisitive questions about what would happen and how it
8 would happen. So I explained it all to her, and she was
9 thinking about it, and then she'd call back weeks or months
10 later and ask me more questions so I could tell it was kind of
11 weighing on her.
12 MR. LINSKEY: Was it always calls, or would you just meet
13 in person sometimes?
14 SGT. BRENNAN: At this point, I think she had her -- she
15 had her second child, so it was harder for her to -- to find
16 time to come out to visit her mother. I think her mother had
17 moved at this point to a condo that was a little smaller, and
18 her mother was -- she was trying to stay away from her mother
19 for a short time when she moved out of her house and moved to
20 Boston -- Newton with the kids.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Did she ever text you.
22 SGT. BRENNAN: More it was calls. I'm not a big texter.
23 I'm not a good texter. And it was more calls that she would
24 call and have questions.

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1 SGT. BRENNAN: So a lot of -- a lot of calls. I think,
2 that's to the best of my knowledge.
3 MR. LINSKEY: Did you ask her, you know, what are you
4 thinking? Why now? You didn't want to come forward before?
5 SGT. BRENNAN: I'm sure I did. I don't remember what her
6 answers were or why she -- she chose to. I would -- I guess I
7 was assuming it was probably because she had a daughter or a
8 second child. I could have even asked her, but I just don't
9 remember.
10 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, and you gave her advice and counsel,
11 hey, this is the person who does child abuse investigations.
12 They'll do a SANE interview. Let me tell you what that's all
13 about. Did you report any of those conversations to anyone in
14 the PD?
16 MR. LINSKEY: Did you have any conversation with anyone in
17 the department like, you won't believe what the subject did?
18 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't think so, no.
19 MR. LINSKEY: Anyone outside the department that's also in
20 law enforcement, do you have any -- besides your wife, you have
21 any friends or -- like, geeze, this guy is getting promoted up
22 the ranks. And, you know, if you knew what I knew.
23 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't think so.
24 MR. LINSKEY: So this was just between you, the victim, and
25 your wife?
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1 SGT. BRENNAN: My wife knew, correct. I'm trying to think.
2 Did I talk to anyone else about this? I don't think I did.
3 MR. LINSKEY: How about Nancy Shaughnessy?
4 SGT. BRENNAN: I did not.
5 MR. LINSKEY: How about Jane Gomez?
7 MR. LINSKEY: How about Welch from the school?
10 SGT. BRENNAN: But they have -- those people are people
11 that I -- that gave me the names of that she thought
12 would be people that the investigators would want to speak to.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Do you know why investigators wanted
14 to speak with her? What was the information --
15 SGT. BRENNAN: She had close relationships or some sort of
16 relationship with those people when she was at the school.
17 MR. LINSKEY: And do you think -- did she say she informed
18 any of those folks about this, or?
19 SGT. BRENNAN: No, she did not. She said she did not
20 inform those people. She said I was the only one she informed.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Ever -- did she ever inform her
22 mother?
23 SGT. BRENNAN: Eventually.
24 MR. LINSKEY: After the --
25 SGT. BRENNAN: After me.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: After you? Okay. All right. So she's asked
2 questions, gone back and forth. You've explained the process.
3 What happens next?
4 SGT. BRENNAN: She calls the DA's Office.
5 MR. LINSKEY: And did you give her the number?
6 SGT. BRENNAN: I did. I gave her the number and email
7 address for Catherine Folger.
8 MR. LINSKEY: Did you call Catherine and say, hey, I got
9 somebody's going to call you?
12 SGT. BRENNAN: I said, this is the number you want to call,
13 and -- and this is -- this is the person you want to get in
14 touch with to -- to file a complaint. So she gets a date for
15 the SANE or for the interview? She doesn't know it's called a
16 SANE. Well, she knows what I -- I explained to her what it was,
17 but they didn't say to her, it's for a SANE interview. And it's
18 two weeks out. Now she's very nervous because she thinks that
19 this guy that's been telling her she's worthless is going to
20 come after her now because he's going to find out about it.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Had she been communicating with him?
22 SGT. BRENNAN: No, not since she was -- not since she got
23 pregnant.
24 MR. LINSKEY: Not since she broke up with the pregnancy.
25 Okay. Was the subject upset with her getting pregnant that he
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1 realized she was having a relationship with somebody else? Did
2 that weigh into it? Did she express that to you?
3 SGT. BRENNAN: She did not express it like that. What she
4 said to me or what I remember her insinuating, and I don't
5 exactly know what -- what was said or how, but that she was of
6 no value to him anymore. I don't know if he said that to her or
7 if that's just how she felt. Again, there's a psychological
8 piece to this.
9 MR. LINSKEY: And she's -- she's got some issues. She's on
10 so she -- I don't know what her diagnosis --
11 SGT. BRENNAN: No, was. Was when she was young.
12 MR. LINSKEY: Was. She's no longer on that?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: No. Not that I know of.
14 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Do you know if she's on any other meds
15 for her --
16 SGT. BRENNAN: I do not. I don't know.
17 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. But you were balancing her emotional
18 needs and the -- the trauma she's gone through along with the
19 process that was playing out.
22 SGT. BRENNAN: What was the question again?
23 MR. LINSKEY: Did she get a date for the SANE interview.
24 And I said, what happened next?
25 SGT. BRENNAN: She gets a date, two weeks out. And then
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1 she gets nervous that he's going to find out about it in that
2 two week window. So she's very nervous, and she's calling me,
3 like, every other day.
5 SGT. BRENNAN: Because she's afraid. She's afraid of
6 physical harm to herself or her children.
7 MR. LINSKEY: So now she's fearful of retaliation.
10 SGT. BRENNAN: So she gets the SANE, and --
11 MR. LINSKEY: And you would talk to her. Would you give
12 her any advice, guidance? Did you tell her to yeah --
13 SGT. BRENNAN: Of course. Of course. Yeah. I -- I tried
14 to reinforce to her that -- that there's a very, very small
15 chance that he's going to know about this before she gets before
16 the people for the SANE, from my training experience, that's
17 what I could tell her, that he wasn't going to know about this
18 before then.
19 MR. LINSKEY: He wasn't going to know.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Oh, so you were -- you -- when you
22 said, there's a small chance, to me, when I first heard that, I
23 was like, are you telling her that, you know, it's possible
24 someone's going to tell him? You were trying to downplay the
25 fact that, look, that's --

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1 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. There's a very small chance that
2 he's going to find out.
3 MR. LINSKEY: That's prob -- that's not going to happen.
4 It's very unlikely. It's going to -- the DAs keep this stuff
5 very tight.
7 MR. LINSKEY: No one else -- okay. Got it.
8 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. So as she -- as the date comes
9 close, like I said, she's calling me and -- and asking questions
10 and what's going to happen here? I had told her several weeks
11 before to make notes. I said, because you're going to have a
12 lot you want to tell them, and you want to have your notes in
13 order. So she did that. So the night before her SANE
14 interview, she's real nervous about the whole thing, and she
15 says, I just -- I want you to read my notes. I said, I don't --
16 I don't really need to. I said, you can, just -- as long as
17 you've made notes, bring them with you. But I finally said to
18 her, I said, well I'm taking my daughter to a volleyball camp at
19 Bentley college. I'd be more than happy to -- to meet with you
20 while I'm up there waiting for her and talk to you about this.
21 So she came over to Bentley, we met, had a bite to eat, and she
22 had a lot of notes. She had a poster board. She had, you know,
23 pieces of paper on it, and then stickies here and stickies
24 there. And she's, you know, just pointing stuff out to me and
25 going through it and I'm going, wow, you have a lot of

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1 information here.
2 MR. LINSKEY: What do you recall being there?
3 SGT. BRENNAN: Just different timestamps of stuff. She
4 said, my mother's a pack rack, and my mother kept this. And it
5 was like a note from -- from the school about some behavior she
6 had or something that Porter had weighed in on. And I just
7 remember it being a lot of stuff with a lot of arrows going a
8 lot of different directions.
9 MR. LINSKEY: Any emails, texts, anything that kind of
10 documented the relationship and timelines?
11 SGT. BRENNAN: I think there was stuff like that.
12 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Any physical evidence?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: Meaning what?
14 MR. LINSKEY: Anything that would have trace evidence on
15 it. Anything that would have semen on it, any --
16 SGT. BRENNAN: Something that I'm aware of.
18 SGT. BRENNAN: No. So she's showing me all this stuff, and
19 there was two things that I very distinctly remember that night
20 about -- about the conversations we were having. And one was
21 that she disclosed to me that he had tried to have sex with her
22 when she was 14. Whatever she was going to report, I never had
23 that in my brain is that it had occurred then. I just thought
24 there was inappropriate touching and kissing. And I said, well,
25 what do you mean he tried to have sex with you? She said, he
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1 tried to have sex with me and it wouldn't fit. I said, what do
2 you mean it wouldn't fit? She goes, his penis wouldn't fit in
3 me. And I said, well, did he -- did he put his fingers inside
4 of you? And she said -- she said, oh, yeah, he was trying to
5 make it so it would work and would fit. And I said, -- I said,
6 that changes everything. I said, that's not an indecent
7 assault and battery. That's -- that's rape of a child. I said,
8 that's a big deal. Now she's got really rosy, red cheeks. She
9 almost looks like a leprechaun, and the cheeks went white. Now
10 she's a nurse, so I thought maybe she knew this. But I guess
11 only ER nurses really probably learned a lot of this stuff about
12 how to do a rape kit and all that stuff. So she didn't really
13 know it, and it was like the -- the color was drained out of her
14 face. She said, what is that? And I said, that's a big deal.
15 It means it's a big crime, carries a harsh penalty. It's a --
16 it's a 20 year window look back. I said, that's a -- a big
17 deal. They're going to really dial down on this in your, in
18 your interview tomorrow. So I learned that that had happened.
19 The other thing that I remember learning that night was that I
20 asked, who else did you tell about this? And she says -- I
21 think at that point, she'd only told her now boyfriend. I said,
22 who did you tell first? She goes, you. I go, that's a big
23 deal. I said, that makes me the first complaint witness on a
24 rape case. I said, that's a -- that's a big deal, because I'm
25 allowed to testify on hearsay now. And I said, that's a huge

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1 thing in rape cases. And she's like, I -- I didn't know that.
2 I go, well neither did I until right now when you told me this.
3 And I think she apologized for like, didn't mean to put you in
4 this position. I said, it is what it is. I told you I'd stand
5 by you from beginning to end, and I continue to tell you that I
6 will stand by you from beginning to end. So those are the two
7 things that I remember specifically finding out that night,
8 where I was like, holy shit. Wow.
9 MR. LINSKEY: The allegations were similar to what she said
10 initially, except now she said, in addition to the fondling and
11 kissing, he attempted to penetrate her with his penis.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Was unable to do so, but digitally penetrated
14 her.
16 MR. LINSKEY: Which is all the elements of a rape of a
17 child. Did she say whether -- I hate to ask this question, but
18 I guess I'll put it, was the contact consensual at that point?
19 SGT. BRENNAN: She's 14.
20 MR. LINSKEY: I know -- I know it cannot be consensual
21 legally, but was -- you know, in the way the crime plays out,
22 it's one crime if he --
23 SGT. BRENNAN: I didn't ask.
25 SGT. BRENNAN: So I don't know.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: And she didn't give you an impression?
2 SGT. BRENNAN: No, but she would -- she would hang on his
3 every word.
4 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, so it might have been she was under his
5 spell. He was taking advantage of her. Do you know if he knew
6 at that time she was on
7 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes, he did. He's the one that -- I -- he
8 might even be the one that told me she was on I'm not
9 sure of that, though.
10 MR. LINSKEY: And earlier, you talked about --
11 SGT. BRENNAN: And the reason I say that is because when
12 one SRO takes over from the other one, they go over who the
13 kids are that have behavioral issues and what their things are.
14 So that's why I'm thinking he's probably the one that told me
15 that.
16 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. You said you learned something else.
17 I'm just going prior to conversation, when I asked you whether
18 it was a police vehicle, you said, initially, I thought that,
19 but I learned something later on. I'm assuming at this point,
20 did you learn something else?
21 SGT. BRENNAN: I did.
22 MR. LINSKEY: What else did you learn?
23 SGT. BRENNAN: So she explained to me that night that --
24 I'm pretty sure it was that night. Was it that night, or was it
25 after that? No, it was that night. She explained to me that he

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1 had given her a ride in the police car to the police station,
2 had dropped her off on a side street, Summer Street, next to the
3 police station. Said, I got to go in and change and get my own
4 car. I'm going to go home on comp time. And then he picked her
5 up in his own car, and that's when that happened at the -- at
6 the church, was in his own car.
7 MR. LINSKEY: So he drives her from the school in a police
8 vehicle, drops her a couple of blocks away and says, wait here.
9 SGT. BRENNAN: Next street over from the station.
10 MR. LINSKEY: And then I'm going to go get my personal
11 vehicle and come back and get you.
12 SGT. BRENNAN: And give you a ride home.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And obviously didn't -- I don't know
14 whether it should have raised any issues for her or not, but
15 what would happen if he showed up with a student at the station
16 and then changed and got into his personal vehicle with the
17 student? Would that have raised concerns?
18 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes, of course. Like I said, when we --
19 when we transport someone, there's a firm and hard policy that
20 you call in your mileage.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Radio transporting such and such a mileage,
22 you get a female going to 214 Markingbury Lane.
24 MR. LINSKEY: I'm Adam Robert, clear from the call.

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2 SGT. BRENNAN: And I'll even go one better. Anytime I was
3 SRO, if I was transporting someone there where there was, the
4 person could have had a hostile relationship with the school,
5 the police, anything in between, I usually got someone else to
6 go with me, like a counselor or an administrator.
7 MR. LINSKEY: And is there a policy if there's -- that's a
8 different gender as well, that, you know, you should -- you
9 should really make sure there's somebody else neutral in the
10 car? If you're transporting a female.
11 SGT. BRENNAN: There's no policy. Is it -- some people --
12 MR. LINSKEY: Good practice.
13 SGT. BRENNAN: -- do practice that. Some people do, some
14 people don't.
16 SGT. BRENNAN: Usually you're separated by a cage.
17 MR. LINSKEY: What about relationships -- so, SROs, if
18 you're outside of school, is there a need to notify a
19 supervisor, hey, I got invited to this kid's graduating his
20 Eagle Scout competition. He asked me to come by and be there
21 for him. I'm going to go to a family event for this kid. Do
22 you need to notify anyone of that?
23 SGT. BRENNAN: The only time you would notify is if you're
24 -- if you're going to put in for pay. You had to get
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1 stuff like that, sometimes I would go watch a -- take my kids
2 and go watch a game of someone that I knew that was playing or
3 something like that. If the kid was struggling and asked, hey,
4 you're going to come watch my game today? I'd say, oh, I got my
5 kids, I'll come by and watch it for a minute. But only if you
6 were going to put in for pay is really where you would -- where
7 you would ask for permission.
8 MR. LINSKEY: Would you ever have to ask for, hey, Linskey
9 acted up today. I'm going to give him a ride home, Serge, would
10 there have to be approval of a sergeant to take a student off
11 campus?
12 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't think so. The SRO works very
13 independent. SRO is like a detective. They work very
14 independent, don't have constant supervision, like a patrol
15 sarge on the road or anything like that.
16 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, so you -- you learn at -- I'm going to
17 screw this up. Is it Bentley?
19 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. For some reason, Babson keeps popping
20 in my mind. You learn at Bentley --
21 SGT. BRENNAN: It's a better business school.
22 MR. LINSKEY: You learn at Bentley that, hey, this was not
23 only an indecent assault and battery, a felony. Right? And
24 what's the look back on an indecent A&B on a child under 14?
25 SGT. BRENNAN: I think it's 20 years still.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: 20.
2 SGT. BRENNAN: I think. I'm not a hundred percent sure on
3 that. I know on rape it's 20.
4 MR. LINSKEY: But possibly within the statute; right? But
5 now we've got a rape, and that's within the statute. You go
6 over the information, the evidence. I'll call it a poster
7 board. What are the kids -- trying to think, is it --
8 MS. MONTICELLO: Trifold.
9 MR. LINSKEY: Yeah, it was that type of thing? Like --
10 SGT. BRENNAN: It was as big as that. I'm not sure if it
11 was a trifold or --
12 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. But she's got stickies and it wasn't
13 just a notepad it's on this date, this time --
14 SGT. BRENNAN: She's got a lot of notes.
16 SGT. BRENNAN: She's got a lot of notes and a lot of
17 materials, and some of it is, you know --
18 MR. LINSKEY: Any photographs?
19 SGT. BRENNAN: Some of it is things on school letterhead.
20 There's a lot of things on there.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Any photographs?
22 SGT. BRENNAN: Not that I remember. No.
23 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Do you know if she ever said whether
24 he photographed her during any of their encounters?
25 SGT. BRENNAN: She did not disclose that to me.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. You assure her, he's -- don't worry.
2 He's not going to find out about this. Just go forward with
3 your interview, go over the information. I'm assuming you go
4 back to your daughter's game and she goes along her way, and
5 then she goes to the SANE Interview.
6 SGT. BRENNAN: The next day.
7 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. What happens next?
8 SGT. BRENNAN: Well, she calls me afterwards and tells me
9 how it went and how they were in there over 4 hours. No breaks,
10 no nothing. She provided a lot of information. She tells me
11 that they were -- they were wowed by the amount of information
12 that she had and the notes that she had and that they believed
13 her, which was huge for her. She told me, she says, I was so
14 nervous that they weren't going to believe me. She kept saying
15 that all the time because he always -- she told me that he would
16 always say to her, if I ever brought this forward, that he was -
17 - he was just going to -- he would -- no one would believe her
18 because she's crazy and on and he's a respected police
19 officer.
20 MR. LINSKEY: Do you think that's --
21 SGT. BRENNAN: So when she reported it, she was relieved
22 that -- they said they believed her.
23 MR. LINSKEY: Any thoughts on maybe that's why she was kind
24 of targeted for the -- for the activity? She's a young lady
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1 SGT. BRENNAN: I can't get between his ears. I would never
2 want to try to get between his ears. It's not a space I would
3 ever want to occupy.
4 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, so she tells you by phone, hey, went
5 good. I feel vindicated. They told me that, you know, they
6 found me credible. I gave him all the information. What
7 happens next?
8 SGT. BRENNAN: That's a Monday. On Wednesday, I get a call
9 from the State Police Investigator that I know that I've done
10 work with.
11 MR. LINSKEY: Do you know that date on Monday. It's in
12 August I know; right?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: It is. I don't know the date.
15 SGT. BRENNAN: It's two days after the -- her -- whatever
16 the date her SANE was.
17 MR. LINSKEY: Oh, she called you two -- not the date of the
18 SANE, two days later.
19 SGT. BRENNAN: She called me the night of night of.
20 MR. LINSKEY: Night of. Okay.
21 SGT. BRENNAN: And then they called me two days later.
22 MR. LINSKEY: Got it. And it was on a Monday when they
23 called you?
24 SGT. BRENNAN: No, she did her SANE on a Monday.
25 MR. LINSKEY: She did her SANE on Monday.

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1 SGT. BRENNAN: She called me Monday night. We talked.
2 MR. LINSKEY: Tuesday, Wednesday.
3 SGT. BRENNAN: There's a good chance she called me on
4 Tuesday, but I'm not 100% sure.
6 SGT. BRENNAN: The State Police called me on Wednesday.
7 MR. LINSKEY: Wednesday.
8 SGT. BRENNAN: The reason I know that is, Wednesday is my
9 golf league, and I just finished playing.
11 SGT. BRENNAN: They asked to meet with me, and I said,
12 fine, I was expecting the call. I said not Upton, not
13 Hopkinton. We met in Westborough. And they asked me a lot of
14 the same questions you're asking me now.
15 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, and you told them what -- what you
16 knew.
17 SGT. BRENNAN: Completely honest with them. Yeah.
18 MR. LINSKEY: After she tells you, hey, I've gone to the
19 DA. I've made a complaint. The DA thinks I'm credible. Did
20 you contact anyone at the department?
21 SGT. BRENNAN: I did not, but I was contacted by someone
22 from the department.
23 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, who contacted you?
24 SGT. BRENNAN: The Chief of Police.
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1 SGT. BRENNAN: The next day, Thursday.
2 MR. LINSKEY: No, I'm saying the Monday after the SANE
3 hearing.
4 SGT. BRENNAN: No, I did not.
5 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, so Monday night she calls or Monday
6 afternoon she calls you, tells you it went good. I feel
7 vindicated. They're taking it seriously. There's an
8 investigation ongoing into the Deputy Chief.
10 MR. LINSKEY: Criminal investigation?
12 MR. LINSKEY: Did you mention that to anyone in the
13 department on Tuesday?
15 MR. LINSKEY: Did you mention it to anyone in the
16 department on Wednesday?
18 MR. LINSKEY: Did you get any direction from the Mass State
19 Police as to what you could and couldn't say about this?
20 SGT. BRENNAN: I think what they said to me was that they
21 were going to be reaching out to the defendant on that Wednesday
22 night, which I think they ultimately did, and I think he refused
23 to go in and talk to them. And then on Thursday, I got the call
24 from the Chief, Thursday night.
25 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, but they never said to you, hey,

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1 listen, you're a witness. You're a fresh complaint witness.
2 You can't talk about this case. You're prohibited by law from
3 talking about this case. We'd appreciate it if you don't
4 mention this case?
5 SGT. BRENNAN: They -- they definitely could have. And the
6 reason why I think why it's probably not coming back to my
7 recollection is because I had no plans of talking to anyone. I
8 wasn't going to go back.
9 MR. LINSKEY: What's the policy?
10 SGT. BRENNAN: I'm a witness to this case now. I'm not a -
11 - you know --
12 MR. LINSKEY: What's the policy in the Hopkinton Police
13 Department if you're aware of criminal allegations against
14 another employee?
15 SGT. BRENNAN: Under the post standard, you're supposed to
16 bring it forward, but the District Attorney's Office already
17 knew about it.
18 MR. LINSKEY: But you understand there's two different
19 roles here; right? There's -- there's the criminal, the DAs got
20 the criminal investigation, but was there -- doesn't the
21 department have an obligation to, if they determine that someone
22 had committed corrupt acts, had sexually assaulted a minor, that
23 the department would need to take some type of action on that as
24 well?
25 SGT. BRENNAN: I would assume so. Yes.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: If the subject wasn't a sergeant in the
2 police department when the victim told you, hey, you know, we
3 went in the parking lot near the church, and he kissed me and
4 fondled my breasts. And he's a, you know, adult, and I'm a 14
5 year old young girl. If the subject wasn't a police officer,
6 what would you have done with it?
7 SGT. BRENNAN: If he wasn't my boss and I had a cooperating
8 witness, I probably would have done something about it.
9 MR. LINSKEY: At the time he was a sergeant, were you --
10 you were a patrol officer at that time when she first told you
11 about the -- or were you a sergeant?
12 SGT. BRENNAN: When she first told me about everything I
13 was a patrolman.
14 MR. LINSKEY: When she first told you you were patrolman?
16 MR. LINSKEY: So that's 2005 to 2008.
17 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, I didn't make sergeant until December
18 of '14.
19 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And was that at the restaurant?
20 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes. Well, was what at the restaurant?
21 Most of our discussions were -- if they were face to face, they
22 were probably at the Spoon.
23 MR. LINSKEY: So I thought we had 2007, September 2007.
24 Sometime in 2015 when she was pregnant, she came forward and
25 told you about a consensual relationship that started in 2007.

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1 Were you a sergeant then?
2 SGT. BRENNAN: I was a sergeant in '15.
3 MR. LINSKEY: Was he a sergeant?
4 SGT. BRENNAN: I believe so, yes.
5 MR. LINSKEY: So he wouldn't have been your boss?
6 SGT. BRENNAN: No.
7 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. When you had information that there
8 was an ongoing criminal investigation --
9 SGT. BRENNAN: Hold on one second. I want to make sure we
10 have these times right. 2015, we are sergeants together.
12 SGT. BRENNAN: That's when she is pregnant with her first
13 child.
14 MR. LINSKEY: Pregnant with the child.
15 SGT. BRENNAN: I have no allegations of any criminal
16 wrongdoing at that point, zero.
17 MR. LINSKEY: Just that she --
18 SGT. BRENNAN: Had a consensual sexual relationship that
19 started when she was 18.
20 MR. LINSKEY: When she was 18.
22 MR. LINSKEY: Right. But you didn't have prior knowledge
23 of the relationship prior to that?
24 SGT. BRENNAN: Nothing. No.
25 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And then after that, after the baby,
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1 at some period of time --
2 SGT. BRENNAN: Three years later.
3 MR. LINSKEY: -- she tells you, hey, he fondled me and
4 kissed me, and you say, wait a minute, that's -- that's a crime.
5 You should go to the District Attorney's Office with that.
6 SGT. BRENNAN: You should report it.
8 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't I said District Attorney at the
9 time, I said report it.
10 MR. LINSKEY: So this is probably, let's say, 18.
12 MR. LINSKEY: 19. Okay. But --
13 SGT. BRENNAN: And now he is my boss.
14 MR. LINSKEY: And now he's -- he's --
15 SGT. BRENNAN: A lieutenant.
16 MR. LINSKEY: He's a lieutenant. Okay. But he wasn't
17 deputy Chief. He was a lieutenant.
19 THE COURT: Got it. All right.
20 SGT. BRENNAN: But he was operations lieutenant, and I fell
21 under that.
22 MR. LINSKEY: All right, and once you knew, hey, there's an
23 ongoing DA's investigation, did you ever call the Chief and say,
24 hey, Chief, just want to give you a heads up. I just got called
25 in by Middlesex. I had to give a statement. Was it Middlesex

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1 or Norfolk?
2 SGT. BRENNAN: I did not -- I did not because they told me
3 they were going to call him.
4 MR. LINSKEY: The State Police told you they were going to
5 call?
8 MR. LINSKEY: Who told you that?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: DeLucia. Sergeant DeLucia.
10 MR. LINSKEY: Sergeant DeLucia. Did DeLucia have the same
11 conversations that I'm having about when you knew what?
13 MR. LINSKEY: And were you concerned about when you knew
14 what?
15 SGT. BRENNAN: We talked it through and he was not
16 concerned afterwards.
17 MR. LINSKEY: Were you concerned?
18 SGT. BRENNAN: No, I was never concerned.
19 MR. LINSKEY: No concern that you had knowledge that this
20 was -- had occurred and that a gentleman -- not a gentleman, a
21 suspect who had sexually assaulted a child under his care as an
22 SRO, no concern that --
23 SGT. BRENNAN: Can I break for two reasons?
24 MR. LINSKEY: You sure can.
25 SGT. BRENNAN: One, I have to go to the bathroom.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: Absolutely.
2 SGT. BRENNAN: And two, I'd like to speak to my attorney.
3 MR. LINSKEY: And we're going to -- we're going to go off
4 the record and take as much time as you want.
5 SGT. BRENNAN: Okay? I'm sorry.
7 MR. LINSKEY: We're back on the record, 56 minutes, 55
8 seconds. Starting again.
9 You've had a chance to take a biological break and to
10 consult with your attorney. Do you remember the question?
11 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't. Could you repeat it, please?
12 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Once you knew that not only had there
13 been an indecent A&B, but there had been an attempted or a rape
14 not an attempted rape, a rape, why did you not notify anyone in
15 the department?
16 SGT. BRENNAN: Because I was told by the investigator that
17 he would be calling my Chief.
18 MR. LINSKEY: And did he tell you not to -- not to notify
19 anyone in the department?
20 SGT. BRENNAN: I think his -- I don't think his words were
21 don't notify anyone in the department. I think it was more
22 along the lines of probably best if you keep this to yourself.
23 MR. LINSKEY: And who is that investigator?
24 SGT. BRENNAN: Tony DeLucia.
25 MR. LINSKEY: Tony DeLucia.

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1 SGT. BRENNAN: And he couldn't -- I don't know that he
2 could tell me not to do anything, but he said best to keep to
3 yourself. We're going to be reaching out to the Chief and to
4 the -- the defendant.
5 MR. LINSKEY: I would suggest he could not tell you to --
6 he could tell you. That doesn't mean you have to comply with
7 it. Do you have an obligation as a member of the Hopkinton
8 Police Department to report any citizen complaints of criminal
9 conduct by department employees?
10 SGT. BRENNAN: Under Post? Yes, now we do.
11 MR. LINSKEY: What about your own rules and regulations?
12 SGT. BRENNAN: I believe we do, too. They're in there.
13 MR. LINSKEY: You didn't comply with that; correct?
14 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. Because he --
15 MR. FOGARTY: We don't have the policy in front of us. As
16 far as the question goes, --
17 MR. LINSKEY: Fair. Fair.
18 MR. FOGARTY: -- he's told you what he's done, he's told
19 you what he didn't do. It's up for interpretation whether he
20 complied with the policy.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Yes. That's a fair point, counselor. Are
22 you familiar with the policy?
24 MR. LINSKEY: There are certain things that require an
25 immediate notification if you become aware of them. And just

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1 for the record, I've handed you a policy. Can you tell me the
2 policy number?
3 SGT. BRENNAN: General Order 2018 0004.
4 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Is a rape occurring one of the
5 situations that's outlined in that policy?
6 SGT. BRENNAN: Give me a second. I read really slow.
7 MR. LINSKEY: Sure.
8 SGT. BRENNAN: Can I mark this?
9 MR. LINSKEY: Absolutely. You got a pen?
10 MR. FOGARTY: I was just trying to --
11 SGT. BRENNAN: Certain things in here I don't think I could
12 do. Yes. Rape is in here.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And you were aware of that policy?
14 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes. Signed off on it. Do you want the
15 whole thing back?
16 MR. LINSKEY: Yes, please.
17 MR. FOGARTY: I mean, just something that jumps out to me
18 is that there is a requirement that he notify both the Chief of
19 Police and the Deputy Chief.
20 MR. LINSKEY: We'll talk about that.
21 MR. FOGARTY: Okay.
22 MR. LINSKEY: Policy says you're to notify the officer in
23 charge. You're to notify the Deputy Chief or the Chief.
24 They're available 365, 24 hours a day. There's no excuse not to
25 get in touch with them. Could you have notified the Chief
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1 without notifying the Deputy Chief?
3 MR. LINSKEY: And you didn't do that?
4 SGT. BRENNAN: No.
5 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Is there a policy in internal affairs
6 investigations relative to when you learn of corruption or a
7 citizen makes a complaint that you're obligated to report a
8 citizen's complaint, especially as a supervisor?
10 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. When you learned that the victim had
11 what she described initially as a consensual sexual affair with
12 the subject, did you have any concern that that might be a
13 violation of policies or procedures?
14 SGT. BRENNAN: Ask the question again. I'm sorry.
15 MR. LINSKEY: When you learned of the fact that at the age
16 of 18, right as she turned 18, September of her freshman year at
17 Mass College of Pharmacy, were you concerned that the conduct of
18 the subject was in violation of policies, procedures, and
19 regulations of Hopkinton PD?
20 SGT. BRENNAN: No, it wasn't in violation.
21 MR. LINSKEY: So an SRO who is now a supervisor in the
22 police department, who is married and has a consensual sexual
23 relationship with somebody who is a student with a past history
24 of social emotional disorder that he's aware of and documented
25 any concerns that might be --

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1 MR. FOGARTY: I'm very concerned about that question. I
2 mean, some of it's just not particularly accurate to what
3 happened. It also had many layers to it.
4 MR. LINSKEY: Yeah. Which part was not accurate?
5 MR. FOGARTY: Well, so she wasn't a student anymore, right?
6 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, so a prior student.
7 MR. FOGARTY: But I'm just saying, like, I think we need to
8 break that down into, like, if there -- you think that there's
9 more criteria.
10 MR. LINSKEY: Happy to break it down. So no concerns that
11 a supervisor in the Hopkinton Police Department was having an
12 affair with an 18 year old former student who had a history of
13 social emotional concerns?
14 SGT. BRENNAN: You do recall that I found this out when she
15 was a 25 year old adult. No, I had no concern.
16 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And that person was --
17 SGT. BRENNAN: That was consensual.
18 MR. LINSKEY: And that person was -- that person was then a
19 lieutenant in the police department?
21 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. When that person gets selected for
22 Deputy Chief, did you come forward with any information, said,
23 hey, I just want to let you know, I know you're thinking of
24 making him Deputy Chief, he's got some judgment issues you
25 should be aware of.

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1 SGT. BRENNAN: No, I was a candidate also.
2 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Once you learned that not only was it
3 a -- okay, so that's the consensual relationship. A couple of
4 years later, 2000 -- I think '17 or '18 were saying, you learn
5 of not only was it a consensual relationship, but there was an
6 alleged sexual assault, indecent A&B on a child.
7 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. 14 years later.
9 SGT. BRENNAN: I learned it.
10 MR. LINSKEY: And no conversation with the Chief?
11 SGT. BRENNAN: No, because she was going to tell him I was
12 lying.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. She was going to tell he was lying.
14 SGT. BRENNAN: She said -- I said you should report that.
15 She says, I'm not reporting it to anyone, and if you do, I'm
16 going to tell you I never said anything of this sort.
17 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Why didn't you take her up on that
18 offer. Why didn't you report it to the Chief and say look,
19 she's going to say I'm lying, but I just want to let you know,
20 you know, I -- she told me a couple of years ago that they had
21 an affair, which, you know, whatever you think of an 18 year old
22 and a, you know, police leader having a consensual relationship
23 is one thing, but now she's telling me that she was sexually
24 assaulted when she was 14. Chief, I want to make you aware of
25 that, because this guy has got our uniform and our badge, and it
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1 could reflect negatively on the department?
2 SGT. BRENNAN: I did not tell him that.
3 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Any reason why?
4 SGT. BRENNAN: Because she was not willing to go forward
5 with that.
6 MR. LINSKEY: Couldn't she have remained anonymous?
7 Couldn't you have said, hey, Chief, I got somebody doesn't want
8 to come forward, very much concerned. But in any event, I got
9 information that this person in our police department sexually
10 assaulted somebody when they were 14?
11 SGT. BRENNAN: Anything is possible, I could have done
12 that.
13 MR. LINSKEY: But it's the policy you can remain anonymous
14 and make a complaint against police officers. Right?
16 MR. LINSKEY: And then that would generate an
17 investigation.
19 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And that didn't happen.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Is there anything that requires you,
22 when you're contacted by law enforcement, that you've got to
23 contact Hopkinton PD and say, hey, just want to let you know I
24 got called in. My brother in law had an issue, and I got called
25 in to be a witness in that case, I got spoke to by Stoughton

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1 Police or whatever?
3 MR. LINSKEY: No? Okay. So at some point, you get
4 interviewed by the State Police. They take your information,
5 the Chief calls you. What happened during that conversation?
6 SGT. BRENNAN: The Chief called me and said that he was
7 placing Deputy Porter on administrative leave, and he said
8 something to the effect of, you know more than others why, but
9 I'm not going to get into it. Something along those lines, he
10 insinuated that I knew, he knew that I knew and that there was
11 possible involvement for me. I don't think he knew what my
12 involvement was at the time.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Did you tell him?
15 MR. LINSKEY: Now, the Chief is on administrative -- Deputy
16 Chief is on -- the subject is on administrative leave, what
17 conversations occurred?
18 SGT. BRENNAN: Nothing for a long time.
19 MR. LINSKEY: With no one?
21 MR. LINSKEY: No conversation with other sergeants,
22 lieutenants saying, you won't believe what this guy did.
23 SGT. BRENNAN: No, nothing. Not with the Chief either.
25 SGT. BRENNAN: For a long time.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: And then at some point, you have a
2 conversation with the Chief?
3 SGT. BRENNAN: About -- yeah, about three weeks ago, I
4 guess it was. I'm not sure exactly the date. And I said one of
5 the other sergeants had asked the Chief in front of me, what's
6 up with Porter? When are we going to find out what's going on?
7 MR. LINSKEY: Who was that Sergeant?
8 SGT. BRENNAN: Matt McNeil.
9 MR. LINSKEY: Matt McNeil. Where were you?
10 SGT. BRENNAN: We were down in the squad room.
12 SGT. BRENNAN: And so I went upstairs and just on the PA
13 said, Chief, can you stop in see me on your way up? Because I
14 have an office upstairs.
15 MR. LINSKEY: What did the Chief say when McNeil asked him
16 the question?
17 SGT. BRENNAN: I think he just said nothing -- nothing yet.
18 Nothing I know of. So. I said, can you stop up and see me?
19 And he did. And I think I said something to the effect of, do
20 you want to ask me any questions about this? Do you want to
21 know about any of this? And -- and I -- I said because, you
22 know, I didn't wake up yesterday and say, I want to be the first
23 complaint witness on a rape case involving my boss from 15 years
24 ago, 20 years ago, and we had a short discussion. I don't
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1 and I -- I got the feeling that he didn't know that it was a
2 rape allegation. That's what I walked away from that meeting
3 realizing.
4 MR. LINSKEY: So did you tell him it was a rape allegation
5 then?
6 SGT. BRENNAN: I did. I said it was rape of a child.
7 MR. LINSKEY: What did you tell him happened?
8 SGT. BRENNAN: I didn't get into the specifics.
9 MR. LINSKEY: What did you say happened? What was the --
10 hey, Chief, can you come in here, I want to talk to you? Your
11 Honor, I'm a fresh complaint witness. I don't want to be in
12 this seat.
13 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, it wasn't -- you know, I didn't wake
14 up and say I wanted to be in that seat. But -- and I said, on
15 the case of a rape of a child, my boss, and I might have told
16 him that it was a digital rape. I'm not sure.
17 MR. LINSKEY: Did you tell him it was at the church?
18 SGT. BRENNAN: I could have.
19 MR. LINSKEY: Did you tell him that he was in a vehicle
20 driving her home?
21 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't think I did. I don't think we got
22 into that much detail. My impression and I walked away from
23 that was the Chief did not know what exactly the allegation was.
24 MR. LINSKEY: Was there anything that prohibited you from
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1 SGT. BRENNAN: Nothing other than the discussion I had with
2 the troopers eight months -- six months ago.
3 MR. LINSKEY: Had you had any prior discussions with the
4 Chief about the case?
5 SGT. BRENNAN: No.
6 MR. LINSKEY: Any conversation in an equipment room off the
7 conference room in Hopkinton where you and the Chief were there
8 may be getting some equipment for an officer?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: How long ago was that?
10 MR. LINSKEY: Probably six months prior to the last
11 conversation.
12 SGT. BRENNAN: Well, that's a storage room upstairs.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Right.
14 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes. Yes, I think we did have a very short
15 discussion. I don't remember exactly what was said in there,
16 but that's right. I do remember we were getting someone for --
17 something for someone, and we talked very briefly. I don't know
18 what was said, though.
19 MR. LINSKEY: Did you express concern then, but, like, this
20 is horrible. Like, I can't believe this is going on, you know.
21 SGT. BRENNAN: I could have again. Again, I don't remember
22 exactly what was said. I know whatever was said was brief
23 because we were in and out of there.
24 MR. LINSKEY: Did you tell them I knew about it, I knew
25 something had happened, and, you know, but the victim didn't
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1 want to come forward?
2 SGT. BRENNAN: I could have, again, quite possible, but I'm
3 not sure.
4 MR. LINSKEY: And if you were to have told him, you know, I
5 knew of it, at that point, it's -- I knew of the consensual
6 sexual relationship when she was a senior in college, and then I
7 knew of an allegation of an inappropriate touching and indecent
8 A&B a couple of years after she told you about the consensual
9 relationship -- well, she was out of college when she told you
10 about the consensual relationship in college, that was the
11 initial conversation. And then a couple of years after that,
12 she added, not only do we have a consensual relationship, but at
13 one point he sexually assaulted me as a minor, indecent A&B.
14 You were concerned that that could be a crime.
16 MR. LINSKEY: And then you had knowledge that, you know,
17 her -- she alleges that a rape occurred, a digital rape, and
18 that she had gone to the DA. So now you had knowledge of the
19 whole thing. When you -- if he was to say you referred to, that
20 you had prior knowledge, was there any particular you were
21 talking about or --
22 SGT. BRENNAN: I wasn't remember. In the -- in the room
23 where the equipment is?
24 MR. LINSKEY: Yes.
25 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't remember. I don't remember exactly

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1 what we talked about. I know there was -- it was very short,
2 and there was a lot of -- I don't think there was a lot of -- a
3 lot of dialogue about any of it.
4 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. But it's fair to say you had knowledge
5 from her initial, hey, we had a consensual relationship to the
6 relationship was, you know, not just consensual. There was an
7 assault, to the assault included a rape. You had all of that
8 knowledge at the point you were speaking with the Chief?
10 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And did you have any conversation --
11 did he have any conversation with you about, like, well, you
12 know, what did you know when you know it?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: No, I don't believe so.
14 MR. LINSKEY: Did you tell him you had a conversation with
15 the troopers about knowing stuff ahead of time and that they
16 thought it was okay?
17 SGT. BRENNAN: No, I don't believe so.
18 MR. LINSKEY: And he didn't say, well, do you remember him?
19 SGT. BRENNAN: He never really -- he never really asked me
20 a lot of -- he never really asked me questions.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Do you remember him saying anything like,
22 well, okay, the troopers might think it's okay, but you work
23 here?
24 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't remember that.
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1 in the conversation, said, listen, I don't -- I don't want to
2 interfere with a witness in the case, and, you know --
3 SGT. BRENNAN: That's the impression I'm getting that he
4 didn't want to ask a lot of questions. He didn't want to check
5 in and see, hey, how are you doing with this? How are you
6 holding up?
7 MR. LINSKEY: Yes.
8 SGT. BRENNAN: Nothing like that.
9 MR. LINSKEY: Did you in the meeting in your office where
10 you paged him up, did you inform that you thought a decision was
11 going to be made by the grand jury sometime imminently?
12 SGT. BRENNAN: I said I was hoping that it would go to the
13 grand jury soon because it was killing the victim.
14 MR. LINSKEY: And you were getting that from the victim or
15 from the DA?
16 SGT. BRENNAN: From the victim.
17 MR. LINSKEY: From the victim. So she's continued to be in
18 touch with you?
20 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. I might like to just tighten up
21 timelines, but Monica?
22 MS. MONTICELLO: Thanks, Danny. I had a couple of
23 questions from earlier. Do you recall when the subject was the
24 SRO, his timeline at school?
25 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes. His last -- his last day would have
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1 been June -- July. I took over the role July 1st of 2005, and I
2 believe he was in the role from somewhere around 2000.
3 MS. MONTICELLO: Okay. So he was serving as SRO when the
4 incident occurred, the -- the alleged rape, he was serving as
5 SRO at that time?
7 MS. MONTICELLO: Okay. Was the victim his babysitter at
8 that time, do you know?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't know. I know she has babysat for
10 him. I don't know at what time was she 14, 15, 16, 17? I don't
11 know.
12 MS. MONTICELLO: Okay. And are you aware of any policies
13 about hiring a student as a babysitter for lawn care for
14 anything?
15 SGT. BRENNAN: No policies.
16 MS. MONTICELLO: No policies. Okay.
17 I think I have the same timeline questions as Danny. So if
18 we want to get our bearings. We can go back just to confirm.
19 MR. LINSKEY: I'm going to show you Policy and Procedure
20 4.10, School Resource Officer Policy.
21 MR. FOGARTY: Is this the current policy or the one in
22 effect at the --
23 MR. LINSKEY: I believe it's -- I believe both. So the
24 issue date is 6/9/2017, effective 6/9/2017. I don't have a
25 revision date on it, but I was told this is the policy that was
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1 in effect, but I can see if I can pull back and see if there's
2 another one. And I'm just going to ask you -- you can read the
3 whole policy, but I'm interested in number nine.
4 SGT. BRENNAN: Okay.
5 MR. LINSKEY: What does it say?
6 SGT. BRENNAN: "An SRO will not arrange or schedule a
7 private off campus meeting with a student unless the SRO
8 supervisor approves such activity."
9 MR. LINSKEY: So if he was having her babysit for him, he'd
10 have to get his supervisor's approval.
11 SGT. BRENNAN: I guess so, yeah.
13 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't know if that was in effect.
14 MR. LINSKEY: Might not have been. We'll find that out.
15 Just to tighten timelines, and then I think I'm done. The
16 subject is an SRO at least 2004, 2005, does that sound right?
17 She was a sophomore in 2005. He was an SRO, and then you came
18 in in '05?
19 SGT. BRENNAN: So again, the time -- I'm remaining -- I
20 remember things by her age of course when this stuff started
21 being told to me. She graduated, I'm going to do it right now
22 because we keep going back to this, and I want to be right on
23 this. She graduated in June of 2007, I believe, and she was 17
24 years old. So in 2006, June, she's 16 years old. That's a
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1 and that's where I met her, and he stopped being SRO July 1 of
2 2005.
3 MR. LINSKEY: Okay, so 2014, he was an SRO. 2015 --
4 SGT. BRENNAN: No.
5 MR. LINSKEY: I'm sorry. 2004, he was an SRO. 2005, he
6 was an SRO, but you transitioned out. You took over as an SRO.
7 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. So, in essence, he is her SRO as a
8 freshman and a sophomore, and she is 14 and 15 for those years.
9 MR. LINSKEY: She later recalls being 14 when the assault
10 occurred.
11 SGT. BRENNAN: That's what she told me.
12 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. So 24 -- 2004 the assault occurs.
13 2005 --
14 SGT. BRENNAN: According to her.
15 MR. LINSKEY: -- you become an SRO. The subject is no
16 longer an SRO.
17 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. July 1st of 2005. So he had half
18 the year. He had the first -- the spring semester. I had the
19 fall semester.
20 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. She graduates 2007. She's 17 years of
21 age. September of '07, she's 18. She was born on 9/11.
23 MR. LINSKEY: And she begins a consensual, what she
24 describes as a consensual relationship with him --
25 SGT. BRENNAN: On her birthday.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: Fast forward to 2015. She tells you she's
2 pregnant --
3 SGT. BRENNAN: I think 2015 is correct.
4 MR. LINSKEY: She tells you she's pregnant, and that she
5 had a consensual relationship. This is when you find out she
6 had the consensual relationship.
8 MR. LINSKEY: Pregnant. Okay. Did you put it 2018 for she
9 comes forward and says, I'm having a -- I think she's having a
10 second baby at this point, and she's asking about the process.
11 SGT. BRENNAN: No, that's not correct. 2018 or '19, she's
12 28. And she tells me about what I believe to be an indecent A&B
13 that occurred at the church.
14 MR. LINSKEY: Indecent A&B.
15 SGT. BRENNAN: I'm fairly sure she's pregnant around then,
16 but I'm not sure exactly.
17 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. I thought you said it might be her
18 second child.
19 SGT. BRENNAN: It was. It was right around there. I don't
20 -- so the child is three right now.
22 SGT. BRENNAN: So I'm not 100% sure if it was '19 did she -
23 - did she tell me this? But it was -- she was 28 at the time.
24 MR. LINSKEY: She was 28.
25 SGT. BRENNAN: That's what I'm dialing down on.

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1 MR. LINSKEY: You're no longer an SRO. You're a sergeant,
2 and the subject is a lieutenant.
4 MR. LINSKEY: That's clear. When you heard he was already
5 ranked higher than you.
8 MR. LINSKEY: So period of time goes on, and there's how
9 many conversations would you say occurred where she talked about
10 him and her thoughts of maybe going forward and doing something?
11 SGT. BRENNAN: So that really didn't -- those thoughts of
12 thinking about doing something didn't start until she was 32.
13 MR. LINSKEY: 32.
14 SGT. BRENNAN: And just when she was starting to think
15 about going forward, she had a lot of questions and how it
16 worked and what would happen. And --
17 MR. LINSKEY: So that's summertime of '22.
18 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. Just before she went to the DA.
19 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. 2018, she reports the indecent A&B,
20 but she says, if you say anything, I'm going to say that you lie
21 and you made it up.
23 MR. LINSKEY: When does the subject become the Deputy
24 Chief?
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1 October, September or October of '21.
2 MR. LINSKEY: '21. And as such, when he promoted up, there
3 was no lieutenant?
4 SGT. BRENNAN: No Joe Bennett, was -- him and Joe got
5 promoted to lieutenants at the same time in 2016.
6 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. So when he got promoted Deputy Chief,
7 was there still lieutenant?
8 SGT. BRENNAN: No, there still has not been a lieutenant.
9 MR. LINSKEY: So there's -- your -- your next report was to
10 -- there was no lieutenant between you and the Deputy Chief?
11 SGT. BRENNAN: Always -- since I made -- since 2016 when he
12 made lieutenant, he's been my direct report.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. August you have a conversation with
14 her sometime before I think it's August 26 in my mind, but about
15 the process. And she gets the SANE hearing two weeks from that
16 conversation where she's going to meet with the DA and go over
17 the case. You say, hey, put your notes together.
18 SGT. BRENNAN: I said that --
19 MR. LINSKEY: Along the way?
20 SGT. BRENNAN: Once she started thinking about this, and
21 she was getting close to making a decision. I said, if you're
22 going to do that, start putting notes down because you're going
23 to get in a room and you might be intimidated. You might forget
24 things that you want to say, and if you have it down on paper
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2 SGT. BRENNAN: She was very concerned with being believed.
3 MR. LINSKEY: And she does that. And you meet her at the
4 college, go over the information. That's on a Sunday.
6 MR. LINSKEY: Sunday, she has an interview on a Monday.
8 MR. LINSKEY: You get contacted on a Wednesday.
10 MR. LINSKEY: Did you give an interview that night? Same
11 day?
12 SGT. BRENNAN: I did.
13 MR. LINSKEY: Thursday the Chief calls you, tells you he's
14 putting him on leave, and tells you, I think you know about it.
15 No conversations with anyone except your wife and the
16 investigators until, I'll say six months ago. But the
17 conversation, I'll call it, that occurred in the storage room.
18 SGT. BRENNAN: I remember that. I remember being very
19 brief, and I don't think there was a lot of teeth to it.
20 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. But is there -- did you inform the
21 Chief that you, you know, hey, I knew -- I knew about this, and,
22 you know, -- you know, I have some knowledge when this occurred,
23 and, you know, I didn't know exactly what it was, but it was
24 different than I thought it was.
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1 detail. What I remember saying was, it sucks that I'm the first
2 complaint witness on this.
3 MR. LINSKEY: Is that in the first conversation, or is that
4 in the conversation in your office?
5 SGT. BRENNAN: I think it's been in -- possibly could have
6 been in both times.
7 MR. LINSKEY: Both. Okay.
8 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't remember a lot of what was said in
9 the -- in the storage room. I just remember that it was fairly
10 insignificant.
11 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. At some point, you sent an email, and
12 I can show it to you on my computer, but maybe if I talk you
13 through it, you'll just remember it. It was a picture of a
14 young woman and a child, and it goes to N. Shaughnessy, D.
15 Welch, Jane Gomes, and John -- well, I don't want to say it --
16 John Porter. "Hey. Finally met Kate." Sorry. "Finally met,"
17 a person. "Baby is now X months old. His name is X. Thought
18 you'd all like to know. Tim."
19 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes, that was probably it.
20 MR. LINSKEY: And that was February 26, 2016.
21 SGT. BRENNAN: Okay. Yeah. So those were the people that
22 -- that kind of were resources to her I felt at the school.
23 MR. LINSKEY: But you did not know that there had been a
24 consen -- you did not know -- at that point, you didn't know
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1 SGT. BRENNAN: No.
2 MR. LINSKEY: You didn't know there had been an indecent
3 A&B?
4 SGT. BRENNAN: No.
5 MR. LINSKEY: And you didn't know that the subject had a
6 consensual relationship with her since freshman year of college?
7 SGT. BRENNAN: I -- if she's holding a baby?
8 MR. LINSKEY: Yes.
9 SGT. BRENNAN: I did know that.
11 SGT. BRENNAN: If it's her son.
12 MR. LINSKEY: So is it possible you knew about that
13 relationship -- so you knew about the relationship prior to
14 2016? The relationship -- let me just -- so that's the date of
15 it. So 2015 while she's pregnant, you -- if this picture and
16 timeline are right, you learn of the consensual relationship.
17 And I'm sorry with all these dates, but I want to just get it
18 right.
19 SGT. BRENNAN: Say it again. What's the question?
20 MR. FOGARTY: I will only say, I think we've been over this
21 a couple of times. He's trying to answer to the best of his
22 recollection.
23 MR. LINSKEY: No, and I -- that's why I'm -- I think this
24 document might ground it in time. That's why I'm asking to
25 refer to it.
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1 SGT. BRENNAN: So what was the question again?
2 MR. LINSKEY: So in 20 -- when you sent this email of the
3 picture of this young woman and child to these folks, the baby's
4 been born, you've met the baby. Obviously, it took some time
5 for the baby to be born. The baby's five months old. So if we
6 back up, it's sometimes 2015 that you become aware of the
7 consensual relationship.
9 MR. FOGARTY: Okay, so in pinning it down previously, my
10 notes have that he said he started 2014, 2015 sometime when she
11 was 25 years old.
13 MR. FOGARTY: And then later on, he narrowed it down to
14 closer to her birthday around 2015.
16 MR. FOGARTY: So, like, early fall, I think, is what we're
17 saying.
18 MR. LINSKEY: So when you sent this, why did you include
19 the subject.
20 SGT. BRENNAN: He was -- he was friends with her, he had
21 been at the school with those other people.
22 MR. LINSKEY: Yep. And you also know at this point she's
23 told you that a colleague of yours who was an SRO has had a
24 consensual relationship with her for a number of years.
25 SGT. BRENNAN: A call? A what?

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1 MR. LINSKEY: A colleague.
2 SGT. BRENNAN: Of who?
3 MR. LINSKEY: Yours.
4 SGT. BRENNAN: Has told --
5 MR. LINSKEY: The subject is a colleague of yours?
7 MR. LINSKEY: So when you sent this email and you added --
8 you didn't add anyone else from the Hopkinton PD on there, --
9 SGT. BRENNAN: Right.
10 MR. LINSKEY: -- when you added the subject, you didn't
11 have any concerns with his behavior with the victim, that you
12 felt he deserved to be updated on the birth of her child?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, I guess.
14 MR. LINSKEY: Were you insinuating, hey, subject, you might
15 want to know, you know, this could be yours?
16 SGT. BRENNAN: No, she told me that.
18 SGT. BRENNAN: I made that clear that she said, well,
19 according to her, he had had a vasectomy.
20 MR. LINSKEY: What do you think the subject thought when he
21 got included on this?
22 SGT. BRENNAN: I have no idea.
23 MR. LINSKEY: After knowing that he had a consensual
24 relationship?
25 SGT. BRENNAN: I have no idea. Did I ever talk to him

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1 about it? Not that I recollect? No.
2 MR. LINSKEY: And did he -- he never said to you, hey, I
3 saw that photograph? Did he reply all?
5 MR. LINSKEY: No conversation when you saw him? He's like,
6 oh, I ran into so and so the other day?
8 MR. LINSKEY: Have you ever spoken to him about her since
9 she came forward with the allegations of the consensual
10 relationship?
11 SGT. BRENNAN: About that? No.
12 MR. LINSKEY: About her?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: Oh, about her? Possibly? It's quite
14 possible.
15 MR. LINSKEY: After knowing about the consensual
16 relationship?
17 SGT. BRENNAN: Have I spoken to him about -- I've not
18 spoken to about any of that ever.
19 MR. LINSKEY: No. After knowing about the consensual
20 relationship, have you spoken to him about her?
23 SGT. BRENNAN: I mean I shouldn't say that. When she
24 graduated -- no, that would have been after the fact. She
25 graduated college, I was praising her graduating. No. Would

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1 not have.
2 MR. LINSKEY: Some have said that this was the worst kept
3 secret in the town of Hopkinton, that lots of people knew about
4 the affair and the relationship. Have you heard that?
5 SGT. BRENNAN: I've heard a lot of people say that this is
6 the best kept secret since he's been out for six months.
7 MR. LINSKEY: The best kept secret about why he's on leave.
8 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. Correct.
9 MR. LINSKEY: Have you heard anyone say everyone knew that
10 they were having an affair?
11 SGT. BRENNAN: No. No.
12 MR. LINSKEY: No conversation with other officers?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: No, not -- not -- not that I know. No. I -
14 - I was surprised when I was told that she had a consensual
15 affair with him. When -- that started on her 18th birthday, I
16 was surprised. I can only speak to what I was.
17 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. And you didn't share that information
18 with anyone else in the PD?
19 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't think so. No. No one. This has
20 been kept pretty quiet.
21 MR. LINSKEY: Any text messages?
22 SGT. BRENNAN: Did I send text messages? I don't think so.
23 But I -- I can't --
24 MR. LINSKEY: Has anyone asked you, Sarge, I'm hearing
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1 SGT. BRENNAN: There's definitely been speculation about
2 it.
3 MR. LINSKEY: That's what I'm asking. Has any --
4 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, there's definitely been speculation.
5 And he did see a former detective of ours at Blackstone Valley
6 Tech a couple of months ago and he told that detective -- I
7 mean, that kid, the guy I worked with that no longer works here,
8 that he was -- it was an allegation from 20 years ago.
9 MR. LINSKEY: So how did you learn that?
10 SGT. BRENNAN: From the detective. From the kid. Ben
11 Stickney that used to be detective.
12 MR. LINSKEY: So somebody did have a conversation with you?
13 SGT. BRENNAN: Ben had a conversation with Porter at
14 Blackstone Valley Tech, and then he told me that that's what
15 Porter said.
16 MR. LINSKEY: That's what I'm asking. Has anyone had --
17 Sarge, this is what I heard.
18 SGT. BRENNAN: That's the only one. Yeah. Everything else
19 I've heard has been speculation.
20 MR. LINSKEY: Who have you heard it from?
21 SGT. BRENNAN: Everyone's saying that if it was 20 years
22 ago, it had to be a student. It had to be this.
23 MR. LINSKEY: Who's everyone?
24 SGT. BRENNAN: This is the talk of the town.
25 MR. LINSKEY: That's -- that's what I'm getting to. Who's

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1 everyone in the PD?
2 SGT. BRENNAN: Who in the PD has asked about it or said
3 something?
4 MR. LINSKEY: Said something to you about it. Or asked
5 about it.
6 SGT. BRENNAN: Just about everyone. This is not a closed
7 conversation. This is people bringing it up, when are we going
8 to hear something? What's going on? What's taken so long?
9 What did Porter do? Who did he do with? How long ago was it?
10 I mean, these -- these are questions that are all being thrown
11 around.
12 MR. LINSKEY: Has anyone speculated, hey, I heard it was so
13 and so, and I heard it was, you know, when she was X age.
14 SGT. BRENNAN: The only one that comes to mind that -- and
15 it was recent. That could be the only reason it comes to mind
16 is a former officer, Linda Higgins, said to me that she thought
17 it was probably that girl that he was close with
18 in school. That's the only one I think I've heard ever say
19 specifically that person.
20 MR. LINSKEY: And did she say -- she just said close in
21 school. Did she say, you know, he was -- he had a relationship
22 with her or they were dating?
23 SGT. BRENNAN: No, she doesn't. She didn't know.
25 SGT. BRENNAN: That, again was, I believe, to be

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1 speculation.
2 MR. LINSKEY: Former detective Stickley --
3 SGT. BRENNAN: Stickney.
4 MR. LINSKEY: Stickney. What was his conversation with
5 you?
6 SGT. BRENNAN: He just told me. He said, I bumped into J
7 at Blackstone Valley Tech.
8 MR. LINSKEY: In person, on the phone?
9 SGT. BRENNAN: Bumped into him. He bumped into --
10 MR. LINSKEY: No, no, the conversation with you.
11 SGT. BRENNAN: Oh, he told me -- yeah, I think it was on
12 the phone. Yeah.
13 MR. LINSKEY: So he called you. Hey, I jumped into the
14 subject. What did he say?
15 SGT. BRENNAN: And he said, I said before, he said, J told
16 him that it was an allegation from 20 years ago, and he'd
17 probably never come back to work in hoping.
18 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. Any of the cops say to you, hey,
19 Sarge, what do you know about this?
20 SGT. BRENNAN: Oh, people have asked me 100 times over.
21 This is why I can't understand -- I can't believe that it's been
22 kept quiet this long, but that's why we're here. I didn't want
23 more speculation at the police department.
24 MR. LINSKEY: Have you heard anyone say, I heard it --
25 besides the former officer you mentioned, have you heard anyone
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1 say, I heard it was with a student from the high school.
2 SGT. BRENNAN: Like I said, people have speculated that.
3 Do I know who said that? No, I've heard -- there's so many
4 different -- people have so many different theories out there.
5 MR. LINSKEY: I'm just asking if you remember any of the
6 people who speculated.
7 SGT. BRENNAN: I -- specifically no, I don't know which
8 ones.
9 MR. LINSKEY: Any supervisors?
10 SGT. BRENNAN: I don't know.
11 MR. LINSKEY: Any patrol officers?
12 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, I'm telling you, everyone in the
13 building has been speculating with ten different things. Do I
14 know which one said which? No, I don't.
15 MR. LINSKEY: Okay. I'm just -- somebody might stuck out
16 in your mind. You were having a, you know, drink after a
17 funeral or something. You remember one. I'm just asking if you
18 know of -- and if you don't, you don't.
19 SGT. BRENNAN: I can't remember. The -- the one was the
20 Linda Higgins, and this was just recently. This was within the
21 last couple of weeks. I don't remember anyone else specifically
22 saying it was her. That's the only one I remember saying where
23 her name was actually brought up.
24 MR. LINSKEY: So she actually mentioned the victim's name.
25 SGT. BRENNAN: But she was completely speculating. She has

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1 no knowledge to say whether it is or isn't.
2 MR. LINSKEY: She got the victim's name.
3 SGT. BRENNAN: But everyone knew her. This girl was a
4 troubled kid back then.
6 SGT. BRENNAN: She was arrested, like, in 8th grade or
7 something, and people knew who she was.
8 MR. LINSKEY: But the speculation, you don't know where it
9 came from, but people are speculating that it was a relationship
10 with a student in the high school or younger?
11 SGT. BRENNAN: Some have said that, some have said that.
12 Some have thought that this was not surprising when they heard
13 he was out on administrative leave. Other people have come to
14 me and said, I'm so surprised. He was so squared away. So it's
15 all ranges -- it's all ranges, and all I've done is say don't
16 know nothing. Don't know nothing.
17 MR. LINSKEY: You good with the timeline?
18 MS. MONTICELLO: I'm good with the timeline.
19 MR. LINSKEY: Is there anything you -- we haven't asked
20 that you would wish to put on the record or you want to clarify?
21 Counsel, anything you -- you want to clarify?
22 MR. FOGARTY: Yeah, so I think it's important based on some
23 of the questions that have been asked, and I hope that this is
24 clear, but, you know, Tim, if you don't mind, in not bringing
25 this forward at the time, based on the things that you've said
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1 so far, were you trying to protect this man?
2 SGT. BRENNAN: No. Absolutely not.
3 MR. FOGARTY: Is he your friend?
4 SGT. BRENNAN: No, absolutely not.
5 MR. FOGARTY: Have you had a positive working relationship
6 with him?
7 SGT. BRENNAN: Not since day one.
8 MR. FOGARTY: I just think that context is important.
9 MR. LINSKEY: That's why I asked you if there's anything
10 you wanted to put on the record.
11 Did you understand that by having knowledge prior and not
12 taking action then that there could be some criticism that could
13 be put upon the department as, wait a minute, you knew about
14 this relationship, you knew about a crime, and no action was
15 taken until the victim went forward to the DA and gave a
16 statement?
18 MR. LINSKEY: Did you understand that that could cause
19 concern on the reputation and harm the reputation of the
20 Hopkinton PD?
21 SGT. BRENNAN: Yes, and I also understood that I had an
22 uncooperating witness.
23 MR. LINSKEY: Did you --
24 SGT. BRENNAN: And that he was my boss.
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1 your office, was one of your motivating factors to say, hey,
2 Chief, we've got some young cops here. Like, they're making
3 decision whether to stay with Hopkinton or go to another
4 department. You know, this -- when this comes out about what
5 happened with the Deputy Chief and this subject -- this victim
6 or the subject and this victim, you know, morale is going to be
7 a problem.
8 SGT. BRENNAN: I did. I was concerned about how, one, they
9 would take it; and two, how they would be viewed by the public,
10 because more often than not, we're already grouped into one --
11 one bag, and I wanted to try to get ahead of it, which was one
12 of the reasons I wanted to have that discussion.
13 MR. LINSKEY: I have to put my glasses on to see the time.
14 I have 12:06 p.m..
15 MR. FOGARTY: Did you want to take a quick break? It seems
16 like there's one other thing.
17 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, there's one other thing I really want
18 to ask. It's very important to me.
19 MR. LINSKEY: I'm going to pause the record.
20
21 MR. LINSKEY: All right, we're back on the record.
22 Sergeant and his attorney just wanted to conference and they
23 state they have nothing else to add to the record. It's 12:09
24 p.m., 2/17/2023. And we're going to stop this interview. Thank
25 you. (Adjourned)
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0 2005 [18] 4:4,5,6,12 7:24 8: advance [1] 37:25
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6 advantage [1] 35:5
05 [2] 6:6 64:18 64:16,17,25 65:2,5,13,17 6 [1] 7:24 advice [2] 26:10 30:12
07 [2] 14:5 65:21 2006 [4] 8:15,19,22 64:24 6/9/2017 [2] 63:24,24 affair [11] 5:11 6:19 7:18,
08 [3] 6:7,8,9 2007 [18] 7:24,25 8:25 9:1, 7 20 14:4 52:11 53:12 54:21
1 14 10:3,8,15,16,17,24 14:
7 [1] 9:2
75:4,10,15
13 17:13 45:23,23,25 64: affairs [1] 52:5
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23 65:20 8 afraid [2] 30:5,5
2008 [7] 4:12,13 9:6,13 10: 88 [2] 3:14,14 afternoon [1] 43:6
100% [4] 5:16 8:2 42:4 66:
2,4 45:16 8th [1] 80:6 afterwards [2] 40:8 48:16
22
2014 [5] 4:14 5:8,14 65:3 age [8] 11:18 20:12 22:22
11 [2] 11:2 14:13
72:10 9 24:9 52:15 64:20 65:21 77:
12:06 [1] 82:14
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[1] 13
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14 [18] 15:23 17:8,10,14 21:
72:6,10,14 95 [2] 3:18,21 24 54:20 57:3,24,24 59:2,9
13 22:4 24:3 32:22 34:19
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[1] 69:16 76:6,8,22 77:9 78:16
38:24 45:4,18 54:7,24 55:
3 68:5,11 70:20 71:14
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10 63:10 65:8,9
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[1]
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9:18 10:2 11:16 24:25 46:2 60:8,13 66:12,14 67:19 71: 25 60:7 76:8 78:16
19
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16 [8] 7:23 8:16,18 9:1 21: able [3] 7:1 11:9 23:23
2033 [1] 9:19 21:18 22:9 34:9 44:13 46:
11 22:4 63:10 64:24 absolutely [4] 49:1 51:9
21 [2] 68:1,2 15 74:9
17 [8] 7:23,23 8:21,24 54:4 81:2,4
214 [1] 36:22 alleged [2] 54:6 63:4
63:10 64:23 65:20 abuse [2] 24:20 26:11
22 [1] 67:17 alleges [1] 60:17
18 [21] 7:8,20 8:1,5 9:5,9,10, academy [7] 3:13,13,17, allowed [1] 33:25
23 [1] 5:8
18 10:11 17:8,13 21:11 46: 17,17,18 4:2
24 [2] 51:24 65:12 almost [1] 33:9
19,20 47:10 52:16,16 53: according [2] 65:14 73:19 already [3] 44:16 67:4 82:
25 [8] 5:10 6:22 11:5 12:24
12 54:4,21 65:21 accurate [3] 8:4 53:2,4
14:14,15 53:15 72:11 10
18th [7] 5:12 6:19 10:17 14: acted [1] 38:9
25th [1] 11:5 amount [1] 40:11
7,8,10 75:15 action [3] 44:23 81:12,14 anonymous [2] 55:6,13
26 [3] 11:12 68:14 70:20
19 [3] 47:12 66:11,22 activity [2] 40:24 64:8
28 [7] 15:19 20:5,6,16 66: another [6] 20:20,21,23
1987 [2] 3:10,12 acts [1] 44:22
12,23,24 44:14 64:2 82:3
1990 [1] 10:9 actually [4] 5:3 21:11 79: answer [1] 71:21
2nd [1] 3:10
1992 [1] 3:15 23,24 answers [1] 26:6
1995 [1] 3:18 3 adam [1] 36:24 anytime [1] 37:2
1st [3] 4:6 63:1 65:17 3 [1] 17:14 add [2] 73:8 82:23 apartment [3] 12:23,25
2 32 [4] 21:23 24:9 67:12,13 added [3] 60:12 73:7,10 13:1
33 [6] 9:4,5,15,16 10:6,7 addict [1] 21:1 apologized [1] 34:3
2/17/2023 [1] 82:24
365 [1] 51:24 addition [1] 34:10 appears [1] 4:24
20 [10] 3:6 33:16 38:25 39:
additional [1] 14:25
1,3 57:24 72:2 76:8,21 78: 4 address [2] 7:16 28:7
appreciate [2] 5:19 44:3
16 appropriate [1] 19:2
4 [3] 17:14,14 40:9 adjourned [1] 82:25
2000 [6] 4:11 5:3,5 7:21 54: 4.10 [1] 63:20 approval [2] 38:10 64:10
admin [1] 4:16 approvement [1] 37:25
4 63:2
2002 [2] 3:25 4:4 5 administrative [4] 56:7, approves [1] 64:8
15,16 80:13 around [10] 5:9 9:5,12 11:
2003 [1] 17:14 55 [1] 49:7
administrator [1] 37:6 12 63:2 66:15,19 67:25 72:
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Keyword Index
14 77:11 bachelor's [1] 3:21 birthday [10] 5:12 6:20 10: 6 78:13
arrange [1] 64:6 back [22] 3:3 4:3,20 21:16, 17 11:1,16 14:8,11 65:25 calling [3] 30:2 31:9 49:17
arrested [4] 23:7,10,11 80: 17 25:9 28:2 33:16 36:11 72:14 75:15 calls [11] 24:12 25:12,22,
6 38:24 40:4 44:6,8 49:7 51: bite [3] 15:5,18 31:21 23 26:1 28:4 40:8 43:5,6
arrows [1] 32:7 15 63:18 64:1,22 72:6 78: blackstone 76:5,14 78: 56:5 69:13
[3]
assault [10] 16:2,11 25:1 17 80:4 82:21 7 came [8] 5:1,15 20:25 31:
33:7 38:23 54:6 61:7,7 65: badge 54:25
[1] blocks 36:8
[1] 21 45:24 64:17 74:9 80:9
9,12 bag [1] 82:11 board [2] 31:22 39:7 camp [1] 31:18
assaulted [6] 24:2 44:22 balancing [1] 29:17 born [5] 10:9 11:7 65:21 campus [3] 3:13 38:11 64:
48:21 54:24 55:10 60:13 based [2] 80:22,25 72:4,5 7
assign [1] 24:22 basically [1] 6:9 boss [6] 45:7 46:5 47:13 candidate [1] 54:1
assigned [1] 3:24 bathroom [1] 48:25 57:23 58:15 81:24 cannot [1] 34:20
assignment [2] 4:8,13 battery [4] 16:2,11 33:7 38: boston [4] 7:13,13 12:25 car [5] 36:1,4,5,6 37:10
assignments [1] 3:8 23 25:20 care [3] 6:3 48:21 63:13
assist [1] 23:24 bearings [1] 63:18 both [5] 21:24 51:18 63:23 career [1] 3:8
associate's [1] 3:21 became [2] 22:5 23:10 70:6,7 carries [1] 33:15
assume [1] 44:25 become 50:25 65:15
[4] bounce 21:3 [1] case [12] 5:13 33:24 44:2,3,
assuming [3] 26:7 35:19 67:23 72:6 boyfriend [3] 7:3 21:1 33: 4,10 55:25 57:23 58:15 59:
40:3 began 4:6[1] 21 4 62:2 68:17
assure [1] 40:1 beginning [2] 34:5,6 brain [3] 16:10 20:12 32:23 cases [2] 24:25 34:1
attempted [3] 34:11 49:13, begins [1] 65:23 break [5] 48:23 49:9 53:8, catherine [3] 24:20 28:7,8
14 behavior [6] 19:17 22:21 10 82:15 cause [1] 81:18
attorney [4] 47:8 49:2,10 23:20,21 32:5 73:11 breaks [1] 40:9 certain [2] 50:24 51:11
82:22 behavioral 22:18 23:5, breasts 16:3,14 17:7
[4] [5] certainly [1] 11:3
attorney's [4] 24:4,21 44: 6 35:13 21:14 45:4 certified [1] 25:1
16 47:5 belief 6:23
[1] bridge 3:1
[1] chance [5] 30:15,22 31:1
august [4] 20:8 41:12 68: believe [31] 5:16 8:1,2 14: brief [2] 59:22 69:19 42:3 49:9
13,14 4,23 18:4,9,12,15,16,18 19: briefly 59:17
[1] change [1] 36:3
available [1] 51:24 1 20:15 21:12 26:17 40:14, brighton [1] 12:25 changed [3] 3:25 4:12 36:
avenue [1] 7:15 17 46:4 50:12 56:22 59:20 bring [2] 31:17 44:16 16
aware [9] 32:16 44:13 50: 61:13,17 63:2,23,23 64:23 bringing 77:7 80:24
[2] changes [1] 33:6
25 51:13 52:24 53:25 54: 66:12 67:25 77:25 78:21 broke [1] 28:24 charge [1] 51:23
24 63:12 72:6 believed 40:12,22 69:2 brother 55:24
[3] [1] check [3] 21:16,17 62:4
away [5] 25:18 36:8 58:2, ben [2] 76:10,13 brought [2] 40:16 79:23 cheeks [2] 33:8,9
22 80:14 bennett [1] 68:4 building [2] 4:17 79:13 chief [44] 4:20 24:20 42:24
awful [1] 17:24 bentley 3:10,14,19 31: bumped 78:6,9,9
[8] [3] 43:8,24 47:17,23,24 49:17
19,21 38:17,20,22 business [1] 38:21 50:3 51:18,19,23,23,25 52:
B besides 18:1 26:20 78:
[3] 1 53:22,24 54:10,18,24 55:
babson [1] 38:19 25
C 7 56:5,6,15,16,23 57:2,5,
baby [14] 6:23,24 7:1,4 11: best [8] 12:23 16:5 26:2 49: cage [1] 37:16 13,15 58:10,23 59:4,7 61:8
11 14:3 20:23 21:8 46:25 22 50:2 71:21 75:6,7 call [22] 15:9 19:5,6 20:22 67:24 68:6,10 69:13,21 81:
66:10 70:17 71:7 72:4,5 better [2] 37:2 38:21 21:3 22:12 25:9,24 28:8,9, 25 82:2,5
baby's [3] 16:18 72:3,5 between 20:17 26:24
[6] 12 36:20,24 39:6 41:8 42: child [24] 11:7 20:20,21 21:
babysat [1] 63:9 37:5 41:1,2 68:10 12 43:23 47:23 48:3,5 69: 1,24 22:9 24:20 25:15 26:8,
babysit 13:6,12,14 64: big [8] 25:22 33:8,14,15,16, 17 72:25
[4]
11 33:7 34:17 38:24 46:13,
9 22,24 39:10 called [17] 6:4 7:8 16:20, 14 48:21 54:6 58:6,15 66:
babysitter 63:7,13
[2]
biological [1] 49:9 23 28:15 41:17,19,21,23 18,20 70:14 72:3 73:12
babysitting [2] 13:11,23 birth [1] 73:12 42:1,3,6 47:24 55:24,24 56: children [2] 21:24 30:6
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Keyword Index
chose [3] 24:19 25:6 26:6 17,18 52:17 53:1 55:8 60: 25 43:9,11 46:21 47:11,18 40:6 43:1 51:24 62:25 69:
church [4] 36:6 45:3 58:17 14 69:2 82:8 48:6 50:13,14 54:7 55:15, 11 74:6 81:7
66:13 concerns [5] 36:17 52:25 18,20 60:15 63:6 65:7,17, days [3] 41:15,18,21
citizen [3] 14:20 50:8 52:7 53:10,13 73:11 22 66:3,11 67:6,18,22 69:5, dead [2] 21:2,5
citizen's [1] 52:8 condo [1] 25:17 7,9 72:8 75:8,8 81:17 deal [6] 23:16 33:8,14,17,
civilian [1] 3:11 conduct [3] 4:20 50:9 52: corrupt [1] 44:22 23,24
clarify 80:20,21
[2] 17 corruption [1] 52:6 dean's [2] 15:13 22:13
clear [4] 36:24 67:4 73:18 conference [2] 59:7 82: couldn't [4] 43:19 50:1 55: december [3] 4:14 22:4
80:24 22 6,7 45:17
close [5] 27:15 31:9 68:21 confirm [1] 63:18 counsel [3] 3:3 26:10 80: decided [1] 24:13
77:17,20 consen [1] 70:24 21 decides [1] 24:10
closed 77:6
[1] consensual [34] 5:11 6: counselor [2] 37:6 50:21 decision [3] 62:10 68:21
closer [1] 72:14 19 10:25 14:5 21:12 34:18, couple [11] 3:23 10:21 36: 82:3
coffee 6:16 15:3,5,18,
[5] 20 45:25 46:18 52:11,22 8 54:3,20 60:8,11 62:22 71: decorum [1] 23:22
18 53:17 54:3,5,22 60:5,8,10, 21 76:6 79:21 defendant [3] 5:12 43:21
colleague [3] 72:23 73:1, 12 61:5,6 65:23,24 66:5,6 course [4] 30:13,13 36:18 50:4
5 71:6,16 72:7,24 73:23 74:9, 64:20 definitely [4] 23:13 44:5
college [18] 3:10 6:17 7:11, 15,19 75:14 court [1] 47:19 76:1,4
12 9:8,11 10:18,19 15:7 24: constant 38:14[1] covering [1] 4:16 degree [1] 3:20
24 31:19 52:17 60:6,9,10 constitution [1] 3:1 crazy [1] 40:18 degrees [1] 4:15
69:4 71:6 74:25 consult 49:10
[1] credible [2] 41:6 42:19 delucia [6] 48:9,9,10,10
color [1] 33:13 consulted [1] 24:5 crime [11] 17:19,22,25 18: 49:24,25
come [19] 3:2 10:13 13:5, contact [4] 34:18 42:20,25 2 21:9 33:15 34:21,22 47:4 department [28] 3:11,24
20 16:15 21:19 25:16 26:4 55:23 60:14 81:14 14:17 20:2 22:2 26:17,19
28:20 36:11 37:20 38:4,5 contacted [4] 42:21,23 55: criminal [8] 23:20 43:10 42:20,22 43:13,16 44:13,
53:22 55:8 58:10 60:1 78: 22 69:8 44:13,19,20 46:8,15 50:8 21,23 45:2 49:15,19,21 50:
17 80:13 context [1] 81:8 criteria [1] 53:9 8,9 52:22 53:11,19 55:1,9
comes [8] 14:24,24 21:18 continue [1] 34:5 criticism [1] 81:12 78:23 81:13 82:4
31:8 66:9 77:14,15 82:4 continued [2] 3:19 62:17 cross [1] 3:1 depending [1] 10:4
coming [4] 12:2 15:17 18: control [2] 22:20,21 cup [3] 15:5,18 16:17 deputy [14] 4:20 43:8 47:
21 44:6 conversation [35] 11:16 current [2] 4:18 63:21 17 51:19,23 52:1 53:22,24
committed [1] 44:22 13:20 18:1 19:20 20:13 21: 56:7,15 67:23 68:6,10 82:5
communicating [1] 28: 8,15 22:6 24:6 26:16 35:17
D described [2] 10:25 52:11
21 54:10 56:5,21 57:2 59:6,11 da [7] 42:19,19 60:18 62:15
describes [1] 65:24
comp [1] 36:4 60:11 61:10,11,14 62:1 68: 67:18 68:16 81:15 deserved [1] 73:12
competition 37:20[1] 13,16 69:17 70:3,4 74:5 75: danny [2] 62:22 63:17
detail [2] 58:22 70:1
complaint [11] 24:3 28:14 12 76:12,13 77:7 78:4,10 das [2] 31:4 44:19 detective [9] 4:13,13 24:
33:23 42:19 44:1 52:7,8 55: 81:25 da's [5] 4:23 24:10,14 28:4
24 38:13 76:5,6,10,11 78:2
14 57:23 58:11 70:2 conversations [6] 26:13 47:23 determine [1] 44:21
32:20 48:11 56:17 67:9 69: date
[15] 7:18 19:6 28:14
complaints [1] 50:8 diagnosis [1] 29:10
completely [2] 42:17 79: 15 29:23,25 31:8 39:13 41:11, dial [1] 33:17
25 cooperating [1] 45:7 13,16,17 57:4 63:24,25 71: dialing [1] 66:25
complied [1] 50:20 cop [1] 16:1 14 dialogue [1] 61:3
comply [2] 50:6,13 cops [2] 78:18 82:2 dates [2] 3:8 71:17 different [10] 20:22 21:2
computer 70:12
[1] correct [52] 4:9,9,11 10:11, dating [2] 14:21 77:22
32:3,8 37:8 44:18 69:24 79:
20,23 13:4 14:9 15:1 17:15 daughter 26:7 31:18
[2]
concern [6] 48:19,22 52: 4,4,13
23:23,23 27:1 29:20 30:8, daughter's 40:4
[1]
12 53:15 59:19 81:19 difficult [2] 16:4 19:18
concerned [10] 48:13,16, 20 31:1,6,8 34:12,15 36:23, day [10] 15:22 16:24 30:3
digital [2] 58:16 60:17
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Keyword Index
digitally [1] 34:13 effect [6] 18:11 56:8 57:19 experience [1] 30:16 five [3] 3:16 11:8 72:5
direct [1] 68:12 63:22 64:1,13 explained [6] 25:5,8 28:2, fogarty [27] 9:3,5,8,12,16,
direction [1] 43:18 effective [1] 63:24 16 35:23,25 18 10:2,7,16 50:15,18 51:
directions [1] 32:8 effort [1] 5:19 express [3] 29:2,3 59:19 10,17,21 53:1,5,7 63:21 71:
disadvantage [1] 4:21 eight [8] 5:4,5 12:24 15:8, expressed [1] 20:14 20 72:9,13,16 80:22 81:3,5,
disclose [2] 22:21 39:25 14 20:17 21:6 59:2 extract [1] 61:25 8 82:15
disclosed [5] 5:10,10 6: either 56:23
[1] folder [1] 24:20
17,18 32:21 elements [1] 34:16
F folger [1] 28:7
disclosure [2] 5:15 24:2 email [4] 28:6 70:11 72:2 face [3] 33:14 45:21,21 folks [3] 16:5 27:18 72:3
discussion [5] 57:24,25 73:7 fact [5] 21:9,11 30:25 52: follow [1] 19:5
59:1,15 82:12 emails [1] 32:9 15 74:24 fondled [3] 21:14 45:4 47:
discussions 45:21 59: embarrassed 16:7
[2] [1] factors [1] 82:1
3
3 emotional [5] 23:16 29:17 facts [1] 4:23 fondling [2] 16:14 34:10
disorder [1] 52:24 40:25 52:24 53:13 fair [6] 9:12 24:25 50:17,17, food [1] 16:18
dispatcher [1] 3:11 employee [1] 44:14 21 61:4 forget [1] 68:23
distinctly [1] 32:19 employees [1] 50:9 fairly [2] 66:15 70:9 former [6] 14:21 53:12 76:
district [5] 24:4,21 44:16 encounters [1] 39:24 fall [8] 10:3,4,8,15,16,17 65: 5 77:16 78:2,25
47:5,8 end [2] 34:5,6 19 72:16 forth [1] 28:2
document [1] 71:24 ended [3] 4:2 20:20,20 familiar [1] 50:22 forward [24] 13:20 14:23,
documented [2] 32:10 52: ending [1] 19:6 family [1] 37:21 24 21:15,18,19 24:3 25:6
24 enforcement [2] 26:20 far [2] 50:16 81:1 26:4 40:2,16 44:16 45:24
doing [4] 22:13 62:5 67:10, 55:22 fast [3] 14:23 24:3 66:1 53:22 55:4,8 60:1 66:1,9
12 engaged [1] 5:11 father [1] 21:1 67:10,15 74:9 80:25 81:15
done [8] 6:16 41:9 45:6,8 environment [1] 23:21 fearful [1] 30:7 found [2] 41:6 53:14
50:18 55:11 64:15 80:15 equated [2] 16:1,11 february [5] 3:18 11:12,14 four [1] 17:13
dorm [5] 7:8,10 12:20,25 equipment [3] 59:6,8 60: 22:4 70:20 fresh [2] 44:1 58:11
13:1 23 feel [2] 41:5 43:6 freshman [7] 9:8,11 10:18,
down [10] 11:22 33:17 53: er [1] 33:11 feeling [1] 58:1 19 52:16 65:8 71:6
8,10 57:10 66:25 68:22,24 especially [1] 52:8 fell [1] 47:20 friend [1] 81:3
72:9,13 essence [1] 65:7 felony [1] 38:23 friends [2] 26:21 72:20
downplay [1] 30:24 even [5] 5:3 19:13 26:8 35: felt [3] 29:7 70:22 73:12 front [3] 16:9 50:15 57:5
drained [1] 33:13 8 37:2 female [2] 36:22 37:10 funeral [1] 79:17
drink [2] 15:18 79:16 event [2] 37:21 55:8 figure [4] 5:4 7:22 10:5 11:
drives [1] 36:7 eventually [1] 27:23 6 G
driving [1] 58:20 everyone [6] 75:9 76:23 figures [1] 4:23 game [3] 38:2,4 40:4
dropped [1] 36:2 77:1,6 79:12 80:3 file [1] 28:14 gave [6] 18:21 26:10 27:11
drops [1] 36:8 everyone's [1] 76:21 finally [3] 31:17 70:16,16 28:6 41:6 81:15
drove [1] 21:13 everything [3] 33:6 45:12 find [8] 25:15 28:20 30:1 gee [1] 22:12
drug [1] 21:1 76:18 31:2 40:2 57:6 64:14 66:5 geeze [1] 26:21
during [3] 14:15 39:24 56: evidence [3] 32:12,14 39: finding [2] 11:7 34:7 gender [1] 37:8
5 6 fine [1] 42:12 general [1] 51:3
exactly [14] 11:6 16:5 17: fingers [1] 33:3 generate [1] 55:16
E 21 18:13 29:5 57:4,25 58: finished 3:20 6:13 42:9
[3] gentleman [2] 48:20,20
eagle [1] 37:20 23,25 59:15,22 60:25 66: firm [1] 36:19 gets [7] 28:14 29:25 30:1,
earlier [2] 35:10 62:23 16 69:23 first [14] 3:13 21:1,17 30: 10,15 53:21 68:15
early [1] 72:16 except [2] 34:10 69:15 22 33:22,23 45:10,12,14 getting [12] 3:20 20:21,21
ears 41:1,2
[2]
excuse [2] 20:23 51:24 46:12 57:22 65:18 70:1,3 23:25 26:21 28:25 59:8,16
eat [3] 15:5,19 31:21 expecting 42:12
[1] fit [4] 33:1,2,2,5 62:3,14 68:21 76:25
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Keyword Index
girl [3] 45:5 77:17 80:3 happened [13] 5:2 17:10 59:7 73:8 75:3 81:20 82:3 interpretation [1] 50:19
give [13] 10:5 18:24 19:2, 19:16,22 29:24 33:18 36:5 horrible [1] 59:20 intervene [1] 23:16
19 28:5 30:11 35:1 36:12 53:3 56:5 58:7,9 59:25 82: hostile [1] 37:4 interview [12] 24:23 26:12
38:9 47:24,25 51:6 69:10 5 hours [2] 40:9 51:24 28:15,17 29:23 31:14 33:
given [3] 4:24 15:22 36:1 happens [4] 20:15 28:3 house [3] 13:2,3 25:19 18 40:3,5 69:6,10 82:24
giving [3] 16:24 17:2,4 40:7 41:7 huge [2] 33:25 40:13 interviewed [1] 56:4
glasses [1] 82:13 happy [3] 11:25 31:19 53: hundred [1] 39:2 intimidated [1] 68:23
god [1] 8:22 10 investigate [1] 24:23
golden [2] 5:17 6:15 hard [1] 36:19
I investigating [1] 4:19
golf [1] 42:9 harder [1] 25:15 idea [2] 73:22,25 investigation [8] 4:22,22
gomes [1] 70:15 harm [2] 30:6 81:19 identify [1] 5:20 43:8,10 44:20 46:8 47:23
gomez [1] 27:5 harsh [1] 33:15 immediate [1] 50:25 55:17
gossip [1] 12:16 hate [1] 34:17 imminently [1] 62:11 investigations [3] 25:1
got [43] 3:20 5:4 7:19 11:22 head [3] 15:25 16:1 21:23 important [3] 80:22 81:8 26:11 52:6
14:5 15:8,12 21:7 28:8,22 heads [1] 47:24 82:18 investigator [3] 41:9 49:
29:9 31:7 33:8 36:3,16 37: hear [1] 77:8 impression [3] 35:1 58: 16,23
5,19 38:4 39:5,12,14,16 41: heard [19] 12:16 21:4 30: 22 62:3 investigators [4] 24:22
22 43:23 44:19 47:19,24 22 67:4 75:4,5,9 76:17,19, inability [2] 22:20,21 27:12,13 69:16
51:9 53:24 54:25 55:7,8,22, 20 77:12,13,18 78:24,24, inappropriate [3] 16:2 32: invited [1] 37:19
24,24,25 58:1,21 68:4,6 73: 25 79:1,3 80:12 24 60:7 involvement [2] 56:11,12
21 80:2 82:2 hearing [4] 43:3 68:15 75: incident [1] 63:4 involving [1] 57:23
grade [2] 6:11 80:6 24,25 include [1] 72:18 isn't [1] 80:1
grades [2] 15:8,13 hearsay [1] 33:25 included [2] 61:7 73:21 issue [2] 55:24 63:24
graduated [12] 3:8,14,18 help [1] 9:21 indecent [13] 16:1,11 33:6 issues [11] 22:15,17,18 23:
7:23 8:7,8 9:2 10:4 64:21, herself [1] 30:6 38:23,24 49:13 54:6 60:7, 6,6,16 29:9 35:13 36:14 40:
23 74:24,25 higgins [2] 77:16 79:20 13 66:12,14 67:19 71:2 25 53:24
graduates [1] 65:20 high [8] 6:14 8:12,13 10:22 independent [2] 38:13,14 itself [1] 22:19
graduating [3] 22:13 37: 13:17,19 79:1 80:10 infants [1] 21:25
19 74:25 higher [1] 67:5 inform [4] 27:20,21 62:10 J
grand [2] 62:11,13 himself [1] 61:25 69:20 jane [2] 27:5 70:15
grew [1] 3:25 hired [1] 3:10 information [15] 14:25 22: january [4] 3:14 4:12 6:9
ground [1] 71:24 hiring [1] 63:13 8 27:14 32:1 39:6 40:3,10, 11:14
grouped [1] 82:10 history [2] 52:23 53:12 11 41:6 46:7 53:22 55:9 56: joe [2] 68:4,4
grow [1] 37:25 hold [4] 7:22 8:18,18 46:9 4 69:4 75:17 john [3] 5:13 70:15,16
guess [6] 26:6 33:10 34:18 holding [2] 62:6 71:7 informed 27:17,20
[2] judgment [1] 53:24
57:4 64:11 73:13 holy [1] 34:8 initial [3] 24:2 60:11 61:5 july [6] 4:6,11 63:1,1 65:1,
guidance [2] 19:19 30:12 home [14] 15:22 16:24 17: initially [5] 19:11,13 34:10 17
guy [5] 26:21 28:19 54:25 2,4 18:21,24 19:3 20:13 21: 35:18 52:11 jumped [1] 78:13
56:22 76:7 13,15 36:4,12 38:9 58:20 inquisitive [1] 25:7 jumps [1] 51:17
guys [5] 6:3 13:21 21:8 23: honest [1] 42:17 inside 33:3
[1] june [6] 3:18 8:9 63:1 64:
16 24:5 honor [1] 58:11 insignificant [1] 70:10 23,24,25
honors [1] 22:14 insinuated 56:10 [1] junior [8] 7:23 8:15,23,24
H hope [1] 80:23 insinuating [2] 29:4 73: 13:17,19 64:25,25
half [2] 6:9 65:17 hopedale [2] 13:2,3 14 jury [2] 62:11,13
handed [1] 51:1 interact [1] 15:6
hang [1] 35:2
hoping [2] 62:12 78:17
interested [1] 64:3
K
hopkinton [18] 3:5,9 4:2,3
happen [9] 19:4,4 25:7,8 interfere [1] 62:2 kate [1] 70:16
5:17 15:10 22:2 42:13 44: [3] 27:11 33:6 77:17
31:3,10 36:15 55:19 67:16 12 50:7 52:19 53:11 55:23 internal [1] 52:5
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Keyword Index
keep [5] 24:1 31:4 49:22 least [1] 64:16 68:11,12 73:18 minus [1] 9:19
50:2 64:22 leave 56:7,16 69:14 75: main [1] 16:25
[5] minute [3] 38:5 47:4 81:13
keeping [1] 23:24 7 80:13 maintenance [1] 4:17 minutes [1] 49:7
keeps [1] 38:19 leaving [1] 19:20 man [2] 20:22 81:1 misconduct [2] 4:25 5:1
kept 32:4 40:14 75:2,6, left 3:25 15:10
[7] [2] manifest [1] 22:19 miss [1] 68:25
7,20 78:22 legally [1] 34:21 many [5] 21:20 53:3 67:9 monday [10] 41:8,11,22,
kid 15:10 37:21 38:3 76: leprechaun 33:9
[6] [1] 79:3,4 24,25 42:1 43:2,5,5 69:6
7,10 80:4 letter [1] 11:23 march [4] 3:10,10,14 22:4 monica [1] 62:21
kidding [1] 18:4 letterhead [1] 39:19 mark [1] 51:8 months [15] 11:8 15:8,14
kids [5] 25:20 35:13 38:1,5 level [1] 4:3 markingbury [1] 36:22 20:18 21:6 24:10 25:9 59:2,
39:7 lie [1] 67:20 married [1] 52:22 2,10 69:16 70:17 72:5 75:6
kid's 37:19
[1] lieutenant [15] 3:22,23,24 mass [6] 3:1 7:11,12 25:2 76:6
killing [1] 62:13 22:5 47:15,16,17,20 53:19 43:18 52:17 monticello [12] 9:20 10:6,
kind [10] 3:7 4:15 12:3 15: 67:2 68:3,7,8,10,12 massachusetts [1] 21: 9,12,15 39:8 62:22 63:3,7,
12 21:18 25:6,10 32:9 40: lieutenants [2] 56:22 68:5 11 12,16 80:18
23 70:22 life [1] 21:3 materials [1] 39:17 morale [1] 82:6
kissed 17:6 21:14 45:3 light 13:5
[4] [1] matt [2] 57:8,9 most [1] 45:21
47:4 linda [2] 77:16 79:20 mcneil [3] 57:8,9,15 mother [7] 15:17 25:16,16,
kissing 16:2,14 32:24 line 23:25
[4] [1] mean [9] 32:25 33:2 34:3 18,18 27:22 32:4
34:11 lines [2] 49:22 56:9 50:6 51:17 53:2 74:23 76:7 mother's [1] 32:4
kit 33:12
[1] list 15:13 22:13
[2] 77:10 motivating [1] 82:1
knowing [4] 61:15 73:23 listen [2] 44:1 62:1 meaning [1] 32:13 move [1] 21:15
74:15,19 [8] 22:22,24,25 29: means [1] 33:15 moved [3] 25:17,19,19
knowledge [14] 14:17 21: 10 35:6,8 40:18,25 meds [1] 29:14 ms [12] 9:20 10:6,9,12,15
10 23:13 26:2 46:22 48:19 little [3] 4:1,21 25:17 meet [7] 6:15 12:23 25:12 39:8 62:22 63:3,7,12,16 80:
60:16,18,20 61:4,8 69:22 live 37:25
[1] 31:19 42:11 68:16 69:3 18
80:1 81:11 lived [1] 15:17 meeting [4] 16:17 58:2 62: much [4] 49:4 55:8 58:22
known [2] 10:21 12:11 long [8] 3:5 31:16 56:18,25 9 64:7 69:25
knows [1] 28:16 59:9 77:8,9 78:22 member [1] 50:7 municipal [1] 3:17
longer [4] 29:12 65:16 67: mention [4] 19:24 43:12,
L 1 76:7 15 44:4
N
lady [1] 40:24 longwood [1] 7:15 mentioned [4] 13:23 14: name [5] 5:22 70:17 79:23,
lane [1] 36:22 look [4] 30:25 33:16 38:24 18 78:25 79:24 24 80:2
last [4] 59:10 62:25,25 79: 54:18 messages [2] 75:21,22 names [2] 5:20 27:11
21 looked [1] 15:11 met [11] 8:9,9 9:22,23 21: nancy [1] 27:3
later [11] 19:10 20:6 25:10 looks [1] 33:9 24 31:21 42:13 65:1 70:16, narrowed 72:13
[1]
35:19 41:18,21 47:2 54:4,7 lot [27] 16:25 25:7 26:1,1 16 72:4 nature [1] 4:21
65:9 72:13 31:12,22,25 32:7,7,8 33:11 middle [1] 23:11 near [2] 11:15 45:3
law [4] 26:20 44:2 55:22,24 39:14,16,16,20 40:10 42: middlesex [2] 47:25,25 necessary [1] 3:1
lawn 63:13
[1]
13 45:3 61:2,2,3,20 62:4 might [16] 4:24 16:4 35:4,8 need [5] 31:16 37:18,22 44:
layers [1] 53:3 67:15 69:19 70:8 75:5 52:12,25 58:15 61:22 62: 23 53:7
leader 54:22
[1]
lots [1] 75:3 20 64:14 66:17 68:23,23 needham [1] 3:13
league [1] 42:9 lunch [1] 16:18 71:24 73:14 79:15 needs [1] 29:18
learn [9] 35:20,22 38:16,20, lying [3] 54:12,13,19 mileage [4] 19:5,6 36:20, negatively [1] 55:1
22 52:6 54:4 71:16 76:9 21 neither [1] 34:2
learned [9] 19:10 33:11,18 M mind [7] 9:3 38:20 68:14 nervous [5] 28:18 30:1,2
35:16,19 52:10,15 54:2,9 made [10] 11:21 15:13 24: 77:14,15 79:16 80:24 31:14 40:14
learning [1] 33:19 3 31:17 42:19 62:11 67:21 minor [2] 44:22 60:13 neutral [1] 37:9
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Sheet 6 keep - neutral
Keyword Index
never [14] 11:21 13:23 18: occurs [1] 65:12 43:21 50:3 51:17 53:14 57: 18,21 55:9 70:17 77:19 78:
7 19:22 32:22 41:1 43:25 october [3] 11:15 68:1,1 6 59:23 60:9 64:14 65:6 66: 8
48:18 54:16 61:19,19,20 offer [1] 54:18 5 75:6 79:4,15 80:13 82:4 personal [2] 36:10,16
74:2 78:17 office [12] 4:23 24:4,11,14, outbursts [2] 22:20 23:17 pharmacy [3] 7:11,12 52:
newton 25:20
[1] 22 28:4 44:16 47:5 57:14 outlined [1] 51:5 17
next [11] 20:15,19 28:3 29: 62:9 70:4 82:1 outraged [1] 20:14 phone [4] 15:16 41:4 78:8,
24 36:2,9 40:6,7 41:7 43:1 officer [10] 4:6 6:5 40:19 outside [2] 26:19 37:18 12
68:9 45:5,10 51:22 59:8 63:20 over [13] 31:21 35:12,12 photograph [1] 74:3
night [16] 31:13
32:19 33: 77:16 78:25 36:9 39:6 40:3,9 63:1 65:6 photographed [1] 39:24
19 34:7 35:23,24,24,25 41: officers [3] 55:14 75:12 68:16 69:4 71:20 78:20 photographs [2] 39:18,
19,19,20 42:1 43:5,22,24 79:11 own [4] 36:3,5,6 50:11 21
69:10 officer's [1] 4:7 physical [2] 30:6 32:12
nine [2] 20:18 64:3 often [2] 15:6 82:10
P picked [1] 36:4
norfolk 48:1
[1] old [17] 4:1 5:10 9:3 15:19, p.m [2] 82:14,24 picture [3] 70:13 71:15 72:
normally [1] 15:5 21,23 21:23 45:5 53:12,15 pa [1] 57:12 3
note [1] 32:5 54:21 64:24,24,25 70:17 pack [1] 32:4 piece [1] 29:8
notepad [1] 39:13 72:5,11 paged [1] 62:10 pieces [1] 31:23
notes [12] 11:21 31:11,12, once [7] 15:10,16 23:9 47: paper [2] 31:23 68:24 pinning [1] 72:9
15,17,22 39:14,16 40:12 22 49:12 54:2 68:20 parking [2] 16:25 45:3 places [1] 12:22
68:17,22 72:10 one [45] 10:5 11:2 14:17 15: part [1] 53:4 placing [1] 56:7
nothing [13] 14:22 40:10 9,22 16:24 18:9,18 20:2 27: particular [1] 60:20 plans [1] 44:7
46:24 56:18,23 57:17,17, 20 31:7 32:20 34:22 35:7,8, particularly [1] 53:2 playing [3] 29:19 38:2 42:
18 59:1 62:8 80:16,16 82: 12,12,14 37:2 40:17 46:9 past [1] 52:23 9
23 48:25 51:4 54:23 56:19 57: patrol [8] 3:12,23 4:3,7,12 plays [1] 34:21
notification [1] 50:25 4 60:13 63:21 64:2 75:19 38:14 45:10 79:11 please [2] 49:11 51:16
notified [1] 51:25 76:18 77:14,18 79:14,17, patrolman [4] 3:15 4:3 45: point [25] 5:1 6:11 11:22
notify [9] 37:18,22,23 49: 19,22 81:7 82:1,8,10,11,11, 13,14 14:15,23 15:19 21:8,16 24:
14,18,21 51:18,22,23 16,17 pause [1] 82:19 5 25:14,17 33:21 34:18 35:
notifying [1] 52:1 ones [1] 79:8 pay [2] 37:24 38:6 19 46:16 50:21 56:3 57:1
november [2] 3:12 11:15 ongoing [3] 43:8 46:8 47: pc [1] 6:2 60:5,13 61:8 66:10 70:11,
number [6] 28:5,6,12 51:2 23 pd [9] 3:5 26:14 52:19 55: 24 72:22
64:3 72:24 only [19] 19:25 22:10 27:20 23 73:8 75:18 77:1,2 81:20 pointing [1] 31:24
nurse 33:10
[1] 33:11,21 37:23 38:5,23 49: pen [1] 51:9 police [36] 3:11,13,16,17 4:
nurses [1] 33:11 12 54:2,5 60:12 71:20 75: penalty [1] 33:15 1 12:16 14:17 19:8,12 22:2
nursing [1] 7:17 16 76:18 77:14,15,18 79: penetrate [1] 34:11 35:18 36:1,1,3,7 37:5 40:
22 penetrated [1] 34:13 18 41:9 42:6,24 43:19 44:
O opening [1] 4:5 penis [2] 33:2 34:11 12 45:2,5 48:4 50:8 51:19
obligated [1] 52:7 operations [2] 3:24 47:20 people [23] 18:12 22:11 27: 52:22 53:11,19 54:22 55:9,
obligation [2] 44:21 50:7 order [2] 31:13 51:3 10,10,12,16,20 30:16 37: 14 56:1,4 78:23
obvious [1] 19:17 other [15] 4:16 22:11 29:14 11,13,14 70:21 72:21 75:3, policies [5] 52:13,18 63:
obviously [3] 15:21 36:13 30:3 33:19 35:12 56:21 57: 5 77:7 78:20 79:2,4,6 80:7, 12,15,16
72:4 5 59:1 72:21 74:6 75:12 80: 9,13 policy [20] 36:19 37:7,11
occupy [1] 41:3 13 82:16,17 percent [1] 39:2 44:9,12 50:15,20,22 51:1,2,
occurred [14] 4:25 15:23, others [1] 56:8 period [3] 4:20 47:1 67:8 5,13,22 52:5 55:13 63:19,
24 21:9 32:23 48:20 56:17 out [37] 5:4,15 7:22 10:5 11: periods [1] 21:3 20,21,25 64:3
60:17 63:4 65:10 66:13 67: 7,7 12:14,21 23:25 25:16, permission [1] 38:7 popping [1] 38:19
9 69:17,22 19 28:18,20 29:19,25 30:1 person [13] 19:25 25:13 porter [11] 5:13,23 16:20,
occurring [1] 51:4 31:2,24 33:13 34:7,21 40:2 26:11 28:13 37:4 53:16,18, 21 32:6 56:7 57:6 70:16 76:
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Sheet 7 never - porter
Keyword Index
13,15 77:9 purpose [1] 3:20 recall [5] 16:5 18:13 32:2 21
position [4] 3:12,23 4:6 put [12] 20:11 33:3 34:3,18 53:14 62:23 reporting [2] 18:6 54:15
34:4 37:24 38:6 66:8 68:17 80: recalls [1] 65:9 reports [2] 4:19 67:19
positive [1] 81:5 20 81:10,13 82:13 recent [1] 77:15 reputation [2] 81:19,19
possible 11:13 13:22 putting 3:4 16:1 68:22 recently [1] 79:20
[8] [4] require [1] 50:24
30:23 55:11 56:11 60:2 71: 69:14 recollect [1] 74:1 requirement [1] 51:18
12 74:14 recollection [4] 12:24 18: requires [1] 55:21
possibly [4] 15:4 39:4 70:
Q 20 44:7 71:22 resource [4] 4:5 6:5,6 63:
5 74:13 question [10] 6:25 29:22
record [9] 3:4 49:4,7 51:1 20
post [2] 44:15 50:10 34:17 49:10 50:16 52:14 80:20 81:10 82:19,21,23 resources [1] 70:22
poster [2] 31:22 39:6 53:1 57:16 71:19 72:1 red [1] 33:8 respected [1] 40:18
practice [2] 37:12,13 questions [16] 24:11,15 refer [2] 5:23 71:25 respond [2] 17:18 18:10
praising [1] 74:25 25:7,10,24 28:2 31:9 42:14 referred [1] 60:19 responsibility [1] 4:15
pregnancy 11:25 28:
[2] 57:20 61:20 62:4,23 63:17 reflect [1] 55:1 restaurant [4] 5:17 11:24
24 67:15 77:10 80:23 refused [1] 43:22 45:19,20
pregnant [19] 6:18 7:19 quick [1] 82:15 regulations [2] 50:11 52: retaliation [1] 30:7
11:8,9,17,25 12:7 14:15 20: quiet [2] 75:20 78:22
19 revision [1] 63:25
[1] 77:17
21 28:23,25 45:24 46:12, reinforce [1] 30:14 ride [10] 15:22 16:24 17:2,4
14 66:2,4,8,15 71:15 quite [4] 11:13 13:22 60:2 relationship [47] 7:6,9,25 18:21,24 19:3 36:1,12 38:9
pretty [2] 35:24 75:20 74:13 10:25 12:8,11,20 13:21 21: road [1] 38:15
previous 21:10
[1]
R 10,12 27:16 29:1 32:10 37: robert [1] 36:24
previously [1] 72:9 4 45:25 46:18,23 52:23 54: role [5] 4:15,18 22:1 63:1,2
rack [1] 32:4
prior [14] 10:21 12:12 13: 3,5,22 60:6,9,10,12 61:5,6 roles [1] 44:19
radio [1] 36:21
10 14:16 24:5 35:17 46:22, 65:24 66:5,6 71:6,13,13,14, roll [1] 22:12
raised [2] 36:14,17
23 53:6 59:3,10 60:20 71: 16 72:7,24 73:24 74:10,16, room [12] 7:8,10 12:20,25
ran [1] 74:6
13 81:11 20 75:4,25 77:21 80:9 81:5, 57:10 59:6,7,12 60:22 68:
ranges [2] 80:15,15
private [2] 12:20 64:7 14 23 69:17 70:9
rank [1] 4:7
prob [1] 31:3 relationships [2] 27:15 rosy [1] 33:8
ranked [1] 67:5
probably [17] 15:3,7 18:11 37:17 rules [2] 23:22 50:11
ranks [1] 26:22
20:19 24:22 26:7 33:11 35: relative [1] 52:6
14 44:6 45:8,22 47:10 49:
rape [24] 24:25 33:7,12,24
relieved [1] 40:21
S
34:1,16 39:3,5 49:13,14,14 same [5] 42:14 48:10 63:
22 59:10 70:19 77:17 78: remain [1] 55:13
51:4,12 57:23 58:2,4,6,15, 17 68:5 69:10
17 remained [1] 55:6
16 60:17,17 61:7 63:4 70: sane [16] 24:23 26:12 28:
problem [2] 20:24 82:7 remaining [1] 64:19
25 15,16,17 29:23 30:10,16
procedure [1] 63:19 remember [37] 5:15 11:8
reaching [2] 43:21 50:3 31:13 40:5 41:16,18,24,25
procedures 52:13,18[2] 13:25 15:4 16:16 18:15 26:
read [3] 31:15 51:6 64:2 43:2 68:15
process [6] 24:12 25:5 28: 5,9 29:4 32:7,19 33:19 34:
real [1] 31:14 sarge [4] 38:15 75:24 76:
2 29:19 66:10 68:15 7 39:22 49:10 57:25 59:15,
realized [1] 29:1 17 78:19
prohibited [2] 44:2 58:24 16,21 60:22,25,25 61:18,
realizing [1] 58:3 saw [2] 74:3,5
promoted 3:12,15,22
[9] 21,24 64:20 69:18,18 70:1,
really [15] 9:25 21:22 31: saying [13] 16:9 18:15 40:
4:14 26:21 67:25 68:2,5,6 8,9,13 79:5,17,19,21,22
16 33:8,11,12,17 37:9 38:6 14 43:2 53:7 54:4 56:22 61:
protect [1] 81:1 repeat [1] 49:11
51:6 61:19,19,20 67:11 82: 21 70:1 72:17 76:21 79:22,
protocols [1] 19:5 reply 74:3
[1]
17 22
provided [1] 40:10 report [16] 17:19,22,25 18:
reason [7] 20:11 35:11 38:
2,7 19:21 26:13 32:22 47:6, says
[10] 16:19 21:13 31:
pry [1] 19:17
19 42:8 44:6 55:3 77:15
psychological [1] 29:7 9 50:8 52:7 54:14,18 68:9, 15 33:20 36:8 40:13 51:22
reasons [2] 48:23 82:12 54:15 66:9 67:20
public [3] 12:19,21 82:9 12
reassured [1] 15:9 schedule [1] 64:6
pull [1] 64:1 reported 5:1 19:22 40:
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Sheet 8 porter - schedule
Keyword Index
scheduling [1] 4:17 sexual [7] 7:9 25:1 46:18 someone's [1] 30:24 started [15] 3:9 4:3 5:12 6:
school [41] 4:5 6:4,6,14 7: 52:11,22 54:6 60:6 someplace [1] 12:20 12 7:8,18,20,25 14:11 45:
17 8:12,13 10:22 13:18,19 sexually [5] 44:22 48:21 sometime [7] 11:5 14:7, 25 46:19 64:20 68:20 72:
16:24 17:2,4 18:22,24 19:3 54:23 55:9 60:13 10 45:24 62:11 68:14 72: 10 75:15
21:13 22:13 23:11,14,15, share [2] 24:25 75:17 10 starting [4] 3:16 5:8 49:8
21,22,22,22 27:7,16 32:5 shaughnessy [2] 27:3 70: sometimes [4] 22:21 25: 67:14
36:7 37:4,18 38:21 39:19 14 13 38:1 72:6 starts [2] 10:24 24:11
62:24 63:20 70:22 72:21 she'd [6] 8:14 10:11 15:8, somewhere [4] 11:11 15: state [7] 4:1 41:9 42:6 43:
77:18,21 79:1 80:10 17 25:9 33:21 3 63:2 67:25 18 48:4 56:4 82:23
scout [1] 37:20 she's [72] 8:12,13,15,23,24 son [2] 15:20 71:11 statement [2] 47:25 81:16
screw [1] 38:17 9:1,4,15,16 10:6,7 11:3,5, soon [1] 62:13 station [5] 12:16 36:1,3,9,
scribbling [1] 10:13 25 12:24 14:3 15:19 16:17, sophomore [9] 6:13,14 7: 15
season [1] 20:7 18 20:16 21:7,7,23,23 22: 23 8:9,12,13,22 64:17 65:8 statute [2] 39:4,5
seat [2] 58:12,14 13 24:3,9,15 28:1,18,19 29: sorry [11] 8:2,22 9:1 16:21 stay [2] 25:18 82:3
second [11] 3:16 7:22 10: 9,9,9,12,14,18 30:2,2,5,5,7 20:23 22:23 49:5 52:14 65: stickies [3] 31:23,23 39:
5 21:17,24 25:15 26:8 46:9 31:9,14,24 32:18 33:8,10 5 70:16 71:17 12
51:6 66:10,18 34:1,19 39:12,14,16 40:18, sort [2] 27:15 54:16 stickley [1] 78:2
seconds [1] 49:8 24 54:19,23 62:17 64:24, sound [1] 64:16 stickney [3] 76:11 78:3,4
secret [3] 75:3,6,7 25 65:20,21 66:1,4,9,10,11, space [1] 41:2 still [4] 15:17 38:25 68:7,8
see [7] 57:13,18 62:5 64:1, 15 68:16 71:7,15 72:22 speaking [1] 61:8 stop [3] 57:13,18 82:24
1 76:5 82:13 shit [1] 34:8 specific [1] 14:12 stopped [4] 7:19 15:22 16:
seem [1] 15:14 shocked [1] 17:23 specifically [5] 22:11 34: 25 65:1
seems [2] 21:5 82:15 short [5] 25:19 57:24,25 7 77:19 79:7,21 storage [3] 59:12 69:17
seen [1] 12:14 59:14 61:1 specifics [1] 58:8 70:9
selected [1] 53:21 shouldn't [1] 74:23 speculated [3] 77:12 79:2, stoughton [1] 55:25
semen [1] 32:15 show [2] 63:19 70:12 6 street [4] 16:25 36:2,2,9
semester [2] 65:18,19 showed [1] 36:15 speculating [3] 79:13,25 struggling [1] 38:3
send [1] 75:22 showing [1] 32:18 80:9 stuck [1] 79:15
senior [7] 7:23 8:21 9:1 13: side [1] 36:2 speculation [6] 76:1,4,19 student [16] 14:21 15:10
17,19 60:6 64:25 signed [1] 51:14 78:1,23 80:8 19:3 22:15 36:15,17 38:10
sent [4] 70:11 72:2,18 73:7 similar [1] 34:9 spell [1] 35:5 52:23 53:5,6,12 63:13 64:7
separated [1] 37:16 since [14] 4:15 5:11 6:19 spoke [2] 19:25 55:25 76:22 79:1 80:10
september [19] 8:2,5,16, 10:2 14:4 28:22,22,24 68: spoken [4] 74:8,17,18,20 stuff [15] 4:16 15:13 21:5
18,21,24 9:10 10:3,24 11:2, 11,11 71:6 74:8 75:6 81:7 spoon [5] 5:17 6:16 15:4, 22:14 31:4,24 32:3,7,11,18
15 14:4,6,10,13 45:23 52: situations [1] 51:5 19 45:22 33:11,12 38:1 61:15 64:20
16 65:21 68:1 six [10] 8:24 15:8,14 20:17 spring [1] 65:18 subject [28] 5:25 12:9,12
serge [1] 38:9 21:6 24:24 59:2,10 69:16 squad [1] 57:10 14:4,20 16:15 22:1 26:17
sergeant [18] 3:5,15 4:14, 75:6 squared [1] 80:14 28:25 45:1,5 52:12,18 56:
16 22:3 38:10 45:1,9,11,17 slow [2] 24:13 51:6 sro [29] 10:22 13:11 18:25 16 62:23 64:16 65:15 67:2,
46:1,2,3 48:9,10 57:7 67:1 small [3] 30:14,22 31:1 19:2 23:2,10 35:12 37:3 38: 23 71:5 72:19 73:5,10,14,
82:22 smaller [1] 25:17 12,13 48:22 52:21 62:24 20 78:14 82:5,6
sergeants [3] 46:10 56:21 social [2] 52:24 53:13 63:3,5 64:6,7,16,17 65:1,3, sucks [1] 70:1
57:5 somebody [7] 29:1 37:9 5,6,6,7,15,16 67:1 72:23 suggest [1] 50:5
seriously [1] 43:7 52:23 55:7,10 76:12 79:15 sros [1] 37:17 summer [1] 36:2
serving [2] 63:3,4 somebody's [1] 28:9 stamped [1] 19:7 summertime [1] 67:17
seven [2] 5:4 21:6 someone [9] 15:12 36:19 stand [2] 34:4,6 sunday [2] 69:4,6
several [2] 24:10 31:10 37:3,5 38:2 42:21 44:21 59: standard [1] 44:15 supervision [1] 38:14
sex [3] 32:21,25 33:1 16,17 start [2] 67:12 68:22 supervisor [5] 37:19 52:8,
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Keyword Index
21 53:11 64:8 69:13 volleyball [1] 31:18
supervisors [1] 79:9 tight [1] 31:5
U
supervisor's [1] 64:10 tighten [2] 62:20 64:15 ultimately [1] 43:22 W
supposed [1] 44:15 till [2] 3:25 4:4 unable [1] 34:13 wait [4] 9:21 36:8 47:4 81:
surprised [4] 18:12 75:14, tim [2] 70:18 80:24 uncooperating [1] 81:22 13
16 80:14 timeline [5] 62:24 63:17 under [6] 35:4 38:24 44:15 waiting [1] 31:20
surprising [1] 80:12 71:16 80:17,18 47:21 48:21 50:10 wake [2] 57:22 58:13
suspect [6] 5:23 6:19 7:6 timelines [3] 32:10 62:21 understand [4] 44:18 78: walk [1] 15:2
13:6 16:21 48:21 64:15 21 81:11,18 walked [2] 58:2,22
suspect's [1] 6:24 timestamps [1] 32:3 understanding [1] 24:4 waltham [1] 3:17
today [3] 10:7 38:4,9 understood [1] 81:21 wanted [7] 15:12 27:13 58:
T together [2] 46:10 68:17 uniform 54:25
[1] 14 81:10 82:11,12,22
talked [6] 35:10 42:1 48:15 tomorrow [1] 33:18 unique [1] 11:2 wanting [1] 21:18
59:17 61:1 67:9 tony [2] 49:24,25 unit [1] 24:21 watch [4] 38:1,2,4,5
targeted [1] 40:24 took [3] 63:1 65:6 72:4 unless [1] 64:7 way [4] 34:21 40:4 57:13
tech [3] 76:6,14 78:7 touch [3] 28:14 51:25 62: unlikely 31:4
[1] 68:19
teeth [1] 69:19 18 until [9] 4:12,13 11:22 22:4 wednesday [8] 41:8 42:2,
tells [14] 11:25 14:3,3 40:8, touching [4] 16:3 17:7 32: 34:2 45:17 67:12 69:16 81: 6,7,8 43:16,21 69:8
10 41:4 42:18 43:6 47:3 66: 24 60:7 15 week [1] 30:2
1,4,12 69:13,14 town [6] 12:14 15:17,17 37: up [33] 3:20 4:2 10:13 14: weeks [7] 25:9 28:18 29:
ten 79:13
[1]
25 75:3 76:24 24 16:15 20:20,20 24:1,13 25 31:10 57:3 68:15 79:21
testify [1] 33:25 trace [1] 32:14 26:21 28:24 31:20 36:5,15 weigh [1] 29:2
text 25:21 75:21,22
[3]
training [2] 4:16 30:16 37:25 38:9,17 47:24 50:19 weighed [1] 32:6
texter [2] 25:22,23 transitioned [1] 65:6 54:17 57:6,13,18,22 58:14 weighing [1] 25:11
texts [1] 32:9 transport [1] 36:19 62:6,10,20 67:21 68:2 72:6 welch [2] 27:7 70:15
thanks 62:22
[1]
transporting [3] 36:21 37: 77:7 79:23 west [1] 16:25
that'll [2] 6:1 9:21 3,10 updated [1] 73:12 westborough [1] 42:13
theories 79:4 [1]
trauma [1] 29:18 upset 12:2 28:25
[2] whatever [11] 6:2,2 16:10,
there's [26] 29:7 30:14,22 tried [5] 16:13 30:13 32:21, upstairs [3] 57:12,14 59: 18 20:19 23:17 32:22 41:
31:1 36:19 37:7,9,11 39:20 25 33:1 12 15 54:21 56:1 59:22
42:3 43:7 44:18,19,19 47: trifold [2] 39:8,11 upton [1] 42:12 whenever [1] 24:11
22 51:24 53:8 64:1 67:8 68: whether [7] 34:17 35:17
9 76:1,4 79:3 81:9 82:16,
troopers [3] 59:2 61:15,22 V 36:14 39:23 50:19 80:1 82:
troubled [1] 80:4
17 valley [3] 76:5,14 78:7 3
trusted [1] 13:20
they'll [1] 26:12 value [1] 29:6 white [1] 33:9
try [3] 41:2 61:25 82:11
thin [1] 11:9 varying [1] 4:15 whole [4] 31:14 51:15 60:
trying [8] 25:18 27:1 30:24
thinking [6] 25:9 26:4 35: vasectomy [2] 7:1 73:19 19 64:3
33:4 39:7 51:10 71:21 81:1
14 53:23 67:12 68:20 vehicle [7] 19:8,12 35:18 who's [2] 76:23,25
tuesday [3] 42:2,4 43:13
thinks [2] 28:18 42:19 36:8,11,16 58:19 wife [8] 13:15 20:1,14 21:
turned [4] 8:1,16 9:10 52:
third [2] 4:2 21:17 victim [20] 4:25 5:9,20,20 16 26:20,25 27:1 69:15
16
though [2] 35:9 59:18 6:4 14:24 22:8 26:24 45:2 will [5] 18:12,18 34:6 64:6
two [18] 6:5,9 20:19 23:24
thoughts [3] 40:23 67:10, 52:10 59:25 62:13,14,16, 71:20
28:18 29:25 30:2 32:19 34:
11 17 63:7 73:11 81:15 82:5,6 willing [1] 55:4
6 41:15,17,18,21 44:18 48:
three [5] 15:21 20:5 47:2 victim's [2] 79:24 80:2 window [2] 30:2 33:16
23 49:2 68:15 82:9
57:3 66:20 viewed [1] 82:9 wish [1] 80:20
type [3] 23:21 39:9 44:23
throughout [1] 6:16 vindicated [2] 41:5 43:7 within [4] 20:19 39:4,5 79:
types [1] 22:17
thrown [1] 77:10 violation [3] 52:13,18,20 20
typically [1] 9:8
thursday [4] 43:1,23,24 visit [1] 25:16 without [1] 52:1
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Sheet 10 supervisor - without
Keyword Index
witness [11] 33:23 44:1,1,
10 45:8 55:25 57:23 58:11
62:2 70:2 81:22
woman [2] 70:14 72:3
wonderful [1] 15:11
wondering [1] 21:4
worcester [1] 7:13
word [1] 35:3
words [1] 49:20
work [7] 3:19 24:17 33:5
38:13 41:10 61:22 78:17
worked [6] 3:14,22,22 24:
24 67:16 76:7
working [1] 81:5
works [3] 24:12 38:12 76:7
worry [1] 40:1
worst [1] 75:2
worthless [1] 28:19
wow [2] 31:25 34:8
wowed [1] 40:11
wrongdoing [1] 46:16
wrote [1] 11:22
Y
year [20] 5:4,4 6:13,14 8:21
9:11 10:18,19 11:6 13:16
20:19 33:16 45:5 52:16 53:
12,15 54:21 64:25 65:18
71:6
years [40] 3:6,16,23 5:4,5,
10 6:5,10,17 9:18 10:2,21
12:24 15:19,21,23 17:13
20:5 21:23 23:24 24:24 38:
25 47:2 54:4,7,20 57:23,24
60:8,11 64:24,24,25 65:8,
20 72:11,24 76:8,21 78:16
yep [3] 7:14 11:20 72:22
yesterday [1] 57:22
young [7] 23:1 29:11 40:
24 45:5 70:14 72:3 82:2
younger [1] 80:10
yourself [2] 49:22 50:3
Z
zero [1] 46:16
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INTERVIEW OF TIMOTHY BRENNAN

HOPKINTON POLICE DEPARTMENT

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2 MR. LINSKEY: All right, the time is 10:19 A.m. It's

3 2/17/2023. We're in the town hall of the town of Hopkinton.

4 My name is Dan Linskey with Kroll.

6 MS. MONTICELLO: Monica Monticello with Kroll.

10 SGT. BRENNAN: Timothy Brennan, Sergeant, Hopkinton Mass

12 MR. FOGARTY: My name is Dan Fogarty. I'm an attorney at

14 MR. LINSKEY: Thank you, gentlemen.

15 Sergeant, how long have you been employed?

16 MR. FOGARTY: Just before we get in, I wanted to make sure

17 I didn't know if you were going to go over the forms.

18 MR. LINSKEY: Yeah, we can -- we can --

19 MR. FOGARTY: Sergeant Brennan was prevent -- presented

20 with his Carney and Garrity rights. As we discussed before

21 going on the record, having been ordered to be here, Garrity

22 applies in this situation. You know, he is invoking that right

23 under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. As such, he

24 expects to be able to answer your questions here today. He

25 reserves the right to invoke Carney Rights under Article 12 of

1 the Mass Constitution if necessary. We'll cross that bridge

2 when we come to it.

4 putting that on the record.

5 Sergeant, How long you been with Hopkinton PD?

6 SGT. BRENNAN: I've been here 20 years.

8 career, you know, graduated, dates, times and assignments?

9 SGT. BRENNAN: Yeah, it started before Hopkinton. In

10 March, March 2nd of 1987, I was hired by the Bentley College

11 Police Department as a civilian dispatcher.

12 In November of 1987, I was promoted to a patrol position,

13 went to my first academy, a Campus Police Academy in Needham in

14 January of '88; graduated in March of '88. I worked at Bentley

15 as a patrolman and then was promoted to sergeant in 1992.

16 About five years after starting, I went to my second police

17 academy at the Waltham Police Academy, the Municipal Academy, in

18 February of 1995. I graduated from that academy in June of '95,

19 and then I continued to work at Bentley, went there with the

20 purpose of getting my degree, which I finished up and got my

21 associate's in '93 and my bachelor's in '95.

22 Worked there, was promoted to lieutenant in '97. Worked in

23 that position as patrol lieutenant for a couple of years, and

24 then was assigned as operations lieutenant, as the department

1 going to go to the State Police, but I was a little too old to

2 do a third academy, so I ended up here in Hopkinton. In

3 Hopkinton, I started back at patrol level and was a patrolman

4 from 2002 till 2005.

5 In 2005, there was an opening to be a school resource

6 officer, and I began that position on July 1st, 2005.

7 MR. LINSKEY: And that's a patrol officer's rank, but it's

9 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. Correct.

10 MR. LINSKEY: Okay.

11 SGT. BRENNAN: Correct. I did that from 2000 -- July of

12 2005 until January of 2008, where I was then changed, a patrol

13 assignment to detective. I was a detective from 2008 until

14 December of 2014, when I was promoted to sergeant, and I've been

15 in that role since with varying degrees of responsibility, kind

16 of admin sergeant at times, covering other stuff like training

17 and scheduling and building maintenance and things like that.

18 That's my current role.