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HKU CCHU9065 Notes
HKU CCHU9065 Notes
In a group
divide the group and work - each person went for 3 hours - observe and review the
findings
Present aiming and tell ppl the things that we dunno
Animal looks at us all the time - emphasize - why? - draw the related to shamfulness
He is emphazing his bodies - naked - not thinking abt the animals - not act the cat
+ Animals do not feel shame - but dog does not feel shame - no human feel shame before
children or animals _ challenging the idea that animal is separate from human
- a contrast condsidered to be animals and human - if we dun have animals then we don’t have
human - we depend on them but we died the repentance - we convey all kind of animals - this is
when which human denied - we deny them shame, language,
Not a representation of animal - cat - making him feel shame - making him human
This is the art of his article
2 ways of seeing the animal -philosophical way - lack - lack of shame, animal, dress but human
can do all go those things
Is there any 3rd way to talk art the animal
What is the smug - What art ppl engage w pets and animals - another form of knowledge
we taking into account?
The philosopher ignore the fact that many researcher s know art the animals
Representation vs metaphor
Criticize the philosopher not seeing the animal - cuz when we see them - who decide them
- who are they? Who are we?
The genocide
Instead of killing the Jews - Nazi make more of them - like ppl doing with the animals
- we breed them in order to be killed
Animot
- Secure ourselves we are not them
- Drawing attention to the fact
- They don’t differentiate between animals
- Draw attention the the animal at the same time
- Criticizing animal to hide the diversity, individuality of animals - Keep ourselves ignorant
Touching
- What kind of conclusion does them draw from the article
The cat don’t have a name mb because he doesnt wt the reader think he is dominating the cat
modality of engagement
- not feeling ashamed
- concept of being naked in front of a cat vs interact with a baboon
- intimacy? barbara want to individualise the baboon
- Barbara looks at the animals for a long time
- the cat makes me to feel ashamed - we think binary - they are dependent on each
other - interdependent - men is considered more intelligent then women - the
relationship between men and women were similar to the ways between animal and
human - its makes us aware we are human beings
Barbara criticizing the cats are very different from human cuz the engagment is different - one is
talking to animal - one is engaging with animal - the shift wanted to do is stop only talking art
histology and about animal - and they never cry and fail if we talk how we different about them
But if we talking about if they can suffer - then different - then we are sharing the world and suffer
if we think about how we treat animal then the whole potion would be different
We have institution and many things for the animals
something different may happen if a dog lays beside and look into her eyes
Derrida is touching
T2 4 Oct 2021
logos - animal have their ability to think and principle and order and knowledge
Logical reasoning
come from logical reasoning
Empathy, pathetic -- feeling emotions - to convince sb to believe in sth
There is pursuation of logos
eg parents tell u sth, it compels u to do sth
Language vs image
Image - presence of animal
Language - only focus on some point and cannot understand the whole picture
Give examples of the kinds of messages that animal communicators say animals want to convey
to humans.
- They love humans, honour them and the nature and human, the earth and us are related to
each other
In the view of the animal communicators you have looked at, how do non-human animals differ
from human animals, and how are they the same?
4. For animal communicators, what is language? How does their understanding of language
(what it is and what it is for) differ from that of others we have discussed during this course?
- Verbal and non verbal communication
- How animal react to change, we can actually react to landscape and trees (all the nature
including us)
- Child are more able to have the ability to telepathy - until we are older we are aware the fact
that we are different from animals
- Language - they make us narrower and not expend it - squeezed out the ability to telepathic
with animal - language do not facilitate communication with animals
- Human - superior to animal - we already have our concept
Asia vd Western
- We don't really want to interfere with animal or spirit these kind of thing
- Some still think they are animal communicator and think they are able to communicate with
dogs
- White middle class speak for babies - did parents in HK talk to babies? Yes
- Difference parents (human) talk with animals
Why there are no african-american, asian-american
- A lot of white preoccupation is for horses - this is a demographic difference
- More white have pets in USA than asian or african american
- Since you are paying money to the animal communicator, you have certain
level of money - you are a middle class
Legal responses
- There is some disclaimers
- If they animal communicator said you animal is healthy, but your animal end
up died
8. How many of the communicators you looked at revealed what they charge
for their services? What is the average price? What do they claim that you
get for that? Would you pay for their services? Why or why not?
- Up to 600/h they will charge you more
- Are you projecting your own thoughts on my animal?
- There are some qualifications, authorities, media appearances, interviews to
make people think they are qualified
- People are testified - their lives are changed
- Scientific analysis - communicate through energy
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This is a crap
Need these question to as a guide to structure the essay on their own term
as a social phenomena
Finally 2 sentence can be your though but also it is a kind of their professions
How do they say they do it and how do they do it?
Summarize the phenomena
L9 10 Nov
2021
“Strike u without anger without hate”
everyone needs to eat meat - reality
1949 after WW2 - solder’s job they can get - in
slaughter house
production line is stressful - every 12s there’s animal being killed
men are smoking
Responsible of killing - the knocking (they are only the ppl killing the
animal)
place of comfort - many ppl work in the slaughter
Only 8 ppl did the actual killing - in slaughter house
-> only few ppl see the slaughter
Immigrates
- workers in slaughter house
- people need to be in the “category” to get the job
- can white people get the job in slaughter house?