473rd Knowledge Seekers Workshop； February 16,

2023
第 473 届知识探索者研讨会；2023 年 2 月 16 日
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K- Yes, good morning , good day to you, as usual wherever and whenever you listen
these series of Knowledge Seekers of the Keshe Foundation, Spaceship Institute. We
welcome you back after a very interesting Monday Blueprint presentation. And hopefully
we can repeat another one in the next couple of weeks to show you more new
technologies and understanding.
是的，早上好，祝你有美好的一天，像往常一样，无论何时何地，你都可以听到凯舍基金
会，宇宙飞船研究所的知识探索者的系列演讲。在一个非常有趣的周一蓝图演示之后，我
们欢迎您回来。希望我们能在接下来的几周里重复另一个，向你们展示更多的新技术和理
解。

As we have seen in the Intro, (:16). when you speak about the Cosmic Rays (CR), when
you speak about Creation of magnetic field, when we speak about radiation what is it
exactly is? What does it exactly mean? And how can we use it? We spoke about the
packs of energy of plasmas, as we call them, hydrogen (H), we call it the same pack of
energy, the center of the Earth, the Center of a Sun. The same pack of energy is a center
of the Universe (U). And the center of the pack of the larger one, we call it, the Creator. We have
chosen and name, different names for the same thing, for the same effect.
正如我们在介绍中所看到的，（：16）。当你谈论宇宙射线（Cr）时，当你谈论磁场的产
生时，当我们谈论辐射时，它到底是什么？它到底是什么意思？我们如何使用它？我们谈
到了等离子体的能量包，我们称之为氢（H），我们称之为相同的能量包，地球的中心，
太阳的中心。同样的能量包是宇宙的中心（U）。更大的一群的中心，我们称之为造物
主。我们已经选择和命名，不同的名称为同一件事，为同样的效果。
Where we spoke about the interaction of the fields of the H to create a Moon.
在那里我们谈到了 H 场的相互作用创造了一个月亮。

The interaction of the Soul of the Man (STM) with the soul of the Creator, creates the
man. You are another Moon. You are another dimension (D), interaction of the fields of
the Universe. It's how we twist it, how we turn it, it turns up to be the STM, the Soul of a
woman, an anima. What you call, an alien, a planet, a Sun. So, if we understand the
Totality, we cannot be prejudiced, we cannot separate it, just to fit us when it fits, and suit
us, and dismiss the other points.
人的灵魂（STM）与造物主的灵魂相互作用，创造了人。你是另一个月亮。你是另一个维
度（D），宇宙场的相互作用。这是我们如何扭曲它，我们如何转动它，它变成了 STM，一
个女人的灵魂，一个阿尼玛。你所谓的，外星人，行星，太阳。所以，如果我们理解了整
体，我们就不能有偏见，我们不能把它分开，只是为了在它适合我们的时候适合我们，适
合我们，而忽略其他的点。

This is what Einstein did to write the equation of: Energy equals MC squared. He
dismissed everything, assumptions to the limitation of foolishness. Just because he
wanted to prove something. We cannot do that with the new present science. This is why
sciences like Einstein will be dismissed, (:18). when it comes to the Totality. What most
of the work he has done, is nonsense.
这就是爱因斯坦所写的方程：能量等于 MC 的平方。他对一切都不屑一顾，对愚蠢的局限
性不屑一顾。只是因为他想证明什么。我们不能用新的现代科学做到这一点。这就是为什
么像爱因斯坦这样的科学将被摒弃。当涉及到整体时。他所做的大部分工作都是无稽之
谈。

Because we cannot dismiss, we cannot make assumptions just to fit. We have to

understand the Totality. We have to understand the principle. And we don't make
assumptions, because one wrong assumption, and one dismissing a point can be your life
in the space, end of the presence of your Soul, in Totality. Assumptions cannot be made
in the real physics, in the real world of Creation. Because what it is, it is. What you have
is on the table. You have to deal with it. You have to understand it.
因为我们不能忽视，我们不能仅仅为了适应而做出假设。我们必须了解整体。我们必须了
解原理。我们不做假设，因为一个错误的假设，一个忽视一个点的假设可能是你在空间中
的生命，你灵魂存在的终结，在整体上。在真实的物理学中，在真实的创造世界中，不能
做出假设。因为它是什么，它是什么。你所拥有的都在桌子上。你必须处理它。你必须理
解它。

Last week we spoke about the tree and how a seed becomes a soul. How it becomes a
Twinity. How it becomes the Creation of what we understood, and we never understood.
上周我们谈到了树以及种子如何成为灵魂。它是如何变成 Twinity 的。它如何成为我们所
理解的创造，而我们从未理解。
And we made a lot of assumptions. We spoke about the seed, which comes in and
becomes. Brought in from another tree, brought in from another planet, brought in from
another position. A seed of a flower we planted, and from it we set the seed of the
creation of a tree and its roots. A twin system, as we discussed last week. So is the STM.
The STM will become that seed, and then from it, as we said, will create that life. And
with it, to sustain it, (:20). needs to carry the same principle as what we've seen in the
world of Creation of the Creator. There is no difference between the seed sown in the
ground, that it become a root and a tree, the STM, and its existence, when departs from
the physicality of this world.
我们做了很多假设。我们谈到了种子，它进入并成为。从另一棵树带来的，从另一个星球
带来的，从另一个位置带来的。我们种下了一朵花的种子，并从中种下了创造一棵树和它
的根的种子。一个孪生系统，正如我们上周所讨论的。STM 也是。STM 将成为种子，然
后，正如我们所说的，它将创造生命。并与它，以维持它，（：20）。需要携带与我们在
造物主的创造世界中所看到的相同的原则。当离开这个世界的物质性时，播在地里的种
子，它变成了根和树，STM 和它的存在之间没有区别。
In the physical side, we call the other one, Spirits, or what we call Soul of Physicality
(STP), where the STM ？? it It's the same when your body leaves itself behind, and the
STM travels the span of the Universe, to become that seed, to become that point.
在物质方面，我们称另一个为精神，或者我们所说的物质灵魂（STP），其中 STM？?这是
一样的，当你的身体离开自己的时候，STM 在宇宙中旅行，成为那个种子，成为那个点。

But now, what we need to understand is simple. What is inside this seed, that in
interaction with the other fields of the Universe, it becomes, it becomes the start of a Sun,
a galaxy, a Universe, a planet. A dust speck in the Universe.
但现在，我们需要理解的很简单。这颗种子里面的东西，在与宇宙其他领域的相互作用
中，它变成了一个太阳，一个星系，一个宇宙，一个行星的开始。宇宙中的一粒尘埃。

What is in this STM, there is no difference with what it is in an electron, in a neutron.

Combination of M fields, order of existence, order of interactions. So, the STM becomes
that seed of the hydrogen (H), that will try to create what we call, its existence, or what
the call its electron. That again, will become that process of the H.
这个 STM 中的东西，与电子和中子中的东西没有区别。m 场的组合，存在的顺序，相互作
用的顺序。所以，STM 变成了氢（H）的种子，它将试图创造我们所说的，它的存在，或者
它所说的电子。这将再次成为 H 的过程。

If you're not prejudiced about your own existence, you will understand the truth about the
Creation. Then you can explore, you can go deeper in the positions of the space to see
where you are, how you're interacting. How do you want to interact? What radiation you
want to create, that you need in your body to absorb. Because the radiation you absorb,
the food you absorb in your body is the interaction of your Soul with its environment. That
Gamma ray that Alpha ray, that Beta ray ？?that does not even got a clue about the
strength in the world of the Creation. We referred back to this three, four or five years
ago, when we had the Indian guru sitting in front of us and they were proud, he hasn't
eaten for 20 days. And I explained to him by moving your lung and breathing system,
you absorb different energies. Now we understand the principle behind it.
如果你对自己的存在没有偏见，你就会明白造物的真相。然后你可以探索，你可以深入空
间的位置，看看你在哪里，你是如何互动的。你想怎么互动？你想要产生什么样的辐射，
你需要在你的身体里吸收。因为你吸收的辐射，你身体里吸收的食物，是你的灵魂与环境
的相互作用。伽马射线，阿尔法射线，贝塔射线？?甚至不知道造物世界的力量。我们回
顾了三年、四年或五年前，当印度大师坐在我们面前时，他们很自豪，他已经 20 天没有
吃东西了。我向他解释说，通过移动你的肺和呼吸系统，你可以吸收不同的能量。现在我
们明白了它背后的原理。

Now you understand when you come in the Enhancement Unit (EU), how we interact
with you. Now you understand why this Sunday, when we sit to dine with the Creator,
how you absorb the food. You might not need anything, because the Soul takes what it
needs. Maybe you come full, your stomach is full of food, energy it needs your body,
your Soul doesn't accept. I felt nothing, because I ate from the sources of humanity.
现在你明白了，当你进入增强单元（EU）时，我们是如何与你互动的。现在你明白为什么
这个星期天，当我们坐下来与造物主共进晚餐时，你是如何吸收食物的。你可能什么都不
需要，因为灵魂需要什么就拿什么。也许你吃饱了，你的胃里充满了食物和能量，它需要
你的身体，你的灵魂不接受。我什么都感觉不到，因为我吃的是人类的食物。

We come to the point that we need to understand the principle of Creation. If man is
becoming the passenger of the Universe, if man is becoming correct to understanding his
own creation. Now we understand. (:24). Now we see. Now we expand the knowledge
beyond the limitation. Now, the point for us is, how do we communicate? How this ball
of energy we call, the STM, with the fields inside it. We call it a proton with the fields
inside it. We call it electron with the fields inside it. We call it a star with the fields inside
it, what is its essence? How does it communicate in World of Creation? How does it
connect with others? How does they find the ？? rays, which is part of it? It needs, it can
give to?
我们需要理解创造的原理。如果人类正在成为宇宙的乘客，如果人类正在正确地理解自己
的创造物。现在我们明白了。(: 24).现在我们看到了。现在我们把知识扩展到极限之
外。现在，我们的重点是，我们如何沟通？这个我们称之为 STM 的能量球，里面有场。我
们称它为质子，里面有场。我们称它为电子，里面有场。我们称它为一颗星，里面有场，
它的本质是什么？它是如何在创造的世界中交流的？它是如何与他人联系的？他们是怎么
找到的？?射线，这是它的一部分？它需要，它能给予。

In a world of matter state we force the release of the energy. We chew it, we swallow it,
we bring it in and we force it, with the enzymes and acidity in the stomach and whatever
else, to release its energy. We kill another object, another entity for us to be able to take
in. To be able to crunch it, to be able to reduce it in the strength that we can handle it as
an energy in our stomach, that it becomes a cell of our heart, a cell of our brain and
whatever.
在物质状态的世界里，我们强迫释放能量。我们咀嚼它，我们吞下它，我们把它带进来，
我们强迫它，用胃里的酶和酸度以及其他东西来释放它的能量。我们杀死另一个物体，另
一个实体，让我们能够接受。能够咀嚼它，能够减少它的力量，我们可以把它作为一种能
量在我们的胃里处理，它成为我们心脏的一个细胞，我们大脑的一个细胞等等。

What will be interesting is that, man in the near future will find out the production of the
cells in the brain of the Man has nothing to do with the rest of the body. It's decided by
the Soul, in interaction with the physicality (P), which he has created, (:26). which
interacts with the environment, which is living in. That is why you get Alzheimer's,
because the Soul decides, I'm not producing this part anymore. Or I'm blocking
production. It's not done by your stomach. It's not done by the process where the cells of
your lung and heart is created.
有趣的是，人类在不久的将来会发现，人类大脑中细胞的产生与身体的其他部分无关。它
是由灵魂决定的，在与他所创造的肉体（P）的互动中，（：26）。它与生活的环境相互
作用。这就是为什么你会得老年痴呆症，因为灵魂决定，我不再生产这部分了。或者我在
阻止生产。这不是你的胃做的。它不是由你的肺和心脏细胞产生的过程完成的。

The Creation of the cell of the brain of the man, is decided by the Soul, in collection of
the fields within it, in interaction of the "Soul of the Mother," the Soul of the Creator, and
the Soul of the Planet plays in the position in the Universe.
人的大脑细胞的创造，是由灵魂决定的，在它内部的能量场的集合中，在“母亲的灵
魂”、造物主的灵魂和行星的灵魂的相互作用中，在宇宙中发挥作用。

Then the point it comes even in a womb of the mother, how does this Soul interacts with
the Soul of the mother? Why do we get diabetic one when you're born? Because the
emotion interaction with the field of the mother and the child, the torture which the
mother goes through the pregnancy, abusive husband, condition of life, will create the
demand for insulin, you call it. The creation, the need for sugar, that's what you call the
basic corner of the lifestyle, CH3.
然后重点是，即使在母亲的子宫里，这个灵魂如何与母亲的灵魂互动？为什么我们一出生
就得糖尿病？因为与母亲和孩子的情感互动，母亲经历怀孕的折磨，丈夫的虐待，生活条
件，会产生对胰岛素的需求，你称之为胰岛素。创造，对糖的需求，这就是你所说的生活
方式的基本角落，CH3。

In that respect then, the emotion within the Soul of the child, besides the condition of
absorption, creation and control of "sugar communication line." Why do we call it a
sugar? Why we have got this knowledge in our hand, even as Knowledge Seekers (KS)
and we never understood it. From day one, when we introduced CH3 to you, we called
this the initial energy source, "sugar of life." (:28). This is why you as Knowledge
Seekers when you have diabetic you look into CH3 and find a solution with it, if you
understand it, otherwise it's dismissed.
在这方面，孩子灵魂中的情感，除了吸收、创造和控制“糖交流线”的条件之外。为什么
我们称它为糖？为什么我们掌握了这些知识，即使作为知识寻求者（KS），我们也从未理
解它。从第一天开始，当我们向你们介绍 CH3 时，我们称它为最初的能量源，“生命之
糖”。(: 28).这就是为什么你作为知识寻求者，当你患有糖尿病时，你会研究 CH3 并找到
解决方案，如果你理解它，否则它就会被忽略。

But again comes why hydrogen again? The essence of the center, and why carbon again? Because
the H is the material, that all the plasmas are made off. And in the world of
Creation, the carbon (C) is a communicator. Depending now you understand, on what
you want. You want to matter state energy, you link up to the C12, in absorbing energy
from the cosmos, which is 80% of the energy you use, you took, go to C14.
但是又来了，为什么又是氢气？中心的本质，为什么又是碳？因为 H 是物质，所有的等离
子体都被制造出来了。在创造的世界里，碳（C）是一个传播者。现在你明白了，你想要
什么。你想要物质状态能量，你连接到 C12，从宇宙中吸收能量，这是你使用的能量的
80%，你把它带到 C14。

Again, as we heard in the Intro, look at the energy, not how many electrons and protons
and all that rubbish man has created to in a way, mislead himself, to fool itself away from
reality. In that process, now we understand. Now we see why and how the Universe
communicates. The Universe, it doesn't matter if it's in the cell of the man, on the Moon,
Moon and Earth. On the Sun, Sun and Earth, the galaxy and the Universe, and the
universes in the Unicose. There all energy packs with different interactions, creating
galaxies, suns, the moons, and the planet. (:30). We call it "Up Quark, and Down
Quark", and the rest of the rubbish, which the world of physics has accepted.
再一次，正如我们在介绍中听到的，看看能量，而不是多少电子和质子，以及人类创造的
所有垃圾，以某种方式误导自己，欺骗自己远离现实。在这个过程中，现在我们明白了。
现在我们看到了宇宙交流的原因和方式。宇宙，不管它是在人类的细胞里，在月球上，月
球和地球上。在太阳上，太阳和地球，银河系和宇宙，以及宇宙中的独角兽。所有的能量
包都有不同的相互作用，创造了星系、太阳、卫星和行星。(: 30).我们称之为“上夸克
和下夸克”，其余的都是垃圾，物理学界已经接受了。

Then we have to understand, we have no choice, but to grasp the Totality of the Creation,
where you have one source of energy you call the Soul, and one line of communication,
you call, C14. In the matter states use the energy of a C. In the universal condition in
deep space and absorption of the energy, you use it as C14.
然后我们必须明白，我们别无选择，只能把握造物的整体，在那里你有一个你称之为灵魂
的能量源，和一条你称之为 C14 的通讯线。在物质状态中使用 C 的能量。在深空和能量吸
收的宇宙条件中，你使用它作为 C14。

Why CH3 is the essence of the creation of life on this planet is, because this little funny
chap called, hydrogen. Through its D, through his interaction, through you eat starch,
sugar, whatever you call it, has the capability to behave as C14, ？? as CH3, or C14 as ？?
H.
为什么 CH3 是这个星球上生命创造的本质，因为这个有趣的小家伙叫做氢。通过它的 D，
通过他的相互作用，通过你吃淀粉，糖，不管你怎么称呼它，都有能力表现为 C14，？?
作为 CH3，或 C14 作为？?H.

Now, if you understand the game, that CH3 plays in the life of the man in the Universe,
now, you will have unraveled the secret of Creation and communication anywhere in the
Universe. Where in the physical condition of the man, you rely on the CH3 as a C12 and
additional hydrogen's, that their interactions creates absorption and releases the energy of
one H, (:32). or it behaves very much like it a CH3, as C14 and extra H. That H it
depends of the soul. It's the connection to the two Souls. And C14 in the body of the man
in the dimension of the existence. In a world of the communication. The light you see
from another star in your eye, is the line of communication in the Cosmic Ray level, and
C12 is in matter of state condition of the plasma of the body of the (man).
现在，如果你理解了 CH3 在宇宙中人的生活中所玩的游戏，现在，你将揭开宇宙中任何地
方创造和交流的秘密。在人的身体条件下，你依赖于 CH3 作为 C12 和额外的氢，它们的相
互作用产生吸收并释放一个 H 的能量，（：32）。或者它的行为非常像 CH3，因为 C14 和
额外的 H.它依赖于灵魂。这是两个灵魂之间的联系。在存在的维度中，人的身体中的
C14。在一个交流的世界里。你眼中看到的来自另一颗恒星的光，是宇宙射线水平的通信
线路，而 C12 是（人）身体等离子体的状态条件。
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You are forever connected to the Universe, day or night, asleep or alive, or as a Soul, or
as an entity in the Universe. You are connected. You're continuously absorbing,
interacting, giving and taking from the energy fields of the Universe radiation. But you
go for that 20% of C14, as a C12, which leads you to kill, to crunch, to swallow, to
digest. To do what? To bring it back again to C14. To create a link between cells of the
body of the man. ？? How you test this ？? test this. (:34). Burn it and twist it and angle it. You
call it, Vitamin B, you call it Vitamin C, you call it calcium, you call it whatever you
like in your body.
你永远与宇宙相连，白天或黑夜，沉睡或活着，或作为一个灵魂，或作为宇宙中的一个实
体。你是连接的。你不断地从宇宙辐射的能量场中吸收、互动、给予和索取。但你要去找
那 20%的 C14，作为 C12，这会导致你杀死，咀嚼，吞咽，消化。去做什么？将其再次带回
C14。在人体细胞之间建立联系。？?你怎么测试这个？?测试这个。(: 34).烧掉它，扭曲
它，调整它的角度。你叫它维生素 B，你叫它维生素 C，你叫它钙，你管它叫你身体里的
任何东西。

There then you understand for the first time when I tell you, you eat three meals a day. You take
2,000 calories you eat 24 hours a day, from the energy of the Universe. You
take 80% of your energy. Then you understand why even emotion makes you fat. Why
even emotion gives you cancer. It's that line of communication. That line of Carbon 14,
which interacts with the Soul. Now, you see, what and how the teaching in past years
brings you to the essence of your own creation, communicating within you. What you
eat, would you will take in the Universe, in the space, and what you can create in space.
当我告诉你的时候，你第一次明白了，你一天吃三顿饭。你一天 24 小时从宇宙的能量中
摄取 2000 卡路里。你消耗了 80%的能量。然后你就明白了为什么连情绪都会让你变胖。为
什么连情绪都会让你得癌症。是那条通讯线路。与灵魂相互作用的碳 14 线。现在，你
看，过去几年的教导是如何把你带到你自己创造的本质，在你的内在交流。你吃什么，你
会在宇宙中，在太空中，以及你能在太空中创造什么。
If you understood the position of the Hydrogen and Deuterium, and Tritium, then you
understand why even man has the characteristics of intelligence. A sheep brain walks
99% of the time in parallel with the Earth's magnetic field, it creates only Hydrogen. (:36). Man has
a habit of lying down, and standing up, as an spectrum of radiation. If you
look at the humanity, if you look at the world of Creation on this planet, why we see
animals which can go where to go and horizontal, have a different intelligence, than
animals which are mostly horizontal?
如果你理解了氢、氘和氚的位置，那么你就会明白为什么人类也有智慧的特征。绵羊的大脑
99%的时间都在与地球磁场平行行走，它只产生氢气。(: 36).人类有躺下和站起来的习惯，
就像辐射的光谱一样。如果你看看人类，如果你看看这个星球上的造物世界，为什么我们看
到动物可以去任何地方和水平，有不同的智力，而动物大多是水平的？

Why birds have a different intelligence. Because continuously the interaction of the fields
of their Soul with the environment, and with the standard understanding of the science of
Creation, creates a spectrum of radiations, which part of it, in interaction with the
physicality of the brain created, creates intelligence, diversity of fields interactions.
为什么鸟类有不同的智力。因为他们的灵魂能量场与环境的持续互动，以及对创造科学的标
准理解，创造了一个辐射光谱，其中一部分与大脑的物质性互动，创造了智慧，能量场互动
的多样性。
It's literally, you give one thing to a koala, because the way it sits and structures his live
to be upright all the time. That to a man which sits, bends, tastes different kinds of matter
state energies, creating variation, combination of fields, which in interaction with each
other creates intelligence.
从字面上看，你给了一只考拉一样东西，因为它坐着的方式和结构使它的生活一直保持直
立。对一个人来说，坐着，弯曲，品尝不同种类的物质状态能量，创造变化，场的组合，这
些场在相互作用中创造了智慧。

The interaction with the Soul, and the Soul of the environment and the STP in different
angles, creates different field radiation, that man even haven't measured, or understood in
the world of Creation.
与灵魂的互动，以及环境的灵魂和不同角度的 STP，创造了不同的场辐射，人类甚至还没有
在造物世界中测量或理解。

Now you understand why we went into teaching of Cosmic Ray, because it's the only
way. (:38). Now you understand what you call this, field interaction with other Souls,
field interaction between Earth and the Moon, we call it, the Cosmic Ray. Because it
comes from Cosmos, it comes from interaction of Carbon 14, in transferring, transmitting
from one point to another.
现在你明白我们为什么要教宇宙射线了，因为这是唯一的方法。(: 38).现在你明白了你所
说的，与其他灵魂的场相互作用，地球和月球之间的场相互作用，我们称之为宇宙射线。因
为它来自宇宙，它来自碳 14 的相互作用，从一个点转移到另一个点。

And what happen when you learn how to jump on this bandwagon of fields, it gives you
instant "zero-time" communication and transportation. If you go towards the center of it,
or you go away from it, it will give you a transmutation in that direction, and
transportation when you go deeper in the matter state.
当你学会如何跳上这个领域的潮流时，它会给你即时的“零时间”通信和运输。如果你走向
它的中心，或者你远离它，它会在那个方向上给你一个嬗变，当你在物质状态中更深入时，
它会给你一个运输。

But with the knowledge, with the systems which we have created now, we can move you,
we can shift the angle of the interaction of your brain with us. This is why when we all
together on the 16th, on the 19th, on the 20th, we all feel the same, we go in the same
direction, we interact with the same fields. Because now your Soul cannot move. I
trapped it between the two headphones. It doesn't matter you lie down, you get up,
whatever. ？? Some feel interaction with the environment, ？? you interact with the line of
the fields we transferred to your Soul, we interact with your Soul.
但是有了知识，有了我们现在创造的系统，我们可以移动你，我们可以改变你的大脑与我们
互动的角度。这就是为什么当我们在 16 号，19 号，20 号聚在一起时，我们都有同样的感
觉，我们朝着同样的方向前进，我们与同样的领域互动。因为现在你的灵魂不能动了。我把
它夹在两个耳机之间。不管你是躺下，还是站起来，都无所谓。？?有些人觉得与环境互
动，？?你与我们转移到你灵魂的能量场的线互动，我们与你的灵魂互动。

In a way, we give you in that position, as your Soul sits in the middle and the two
headphones, direction to the rest of the Universe. But we tell you, the sweetie is here, and
all of you, doesn't matter how many with your headphones, will come to that sweetie. (:40). This is
how in the Head units and your headphones, and the new systems we make,
we tell you, we go to see the Soul of Muhammad, bless his name, or Christ, the beautiful
Soul.
在某种程度上，我们给你在那个位置，因为你的灵魂坐在中间，两个耳机，指向宇宙的其余
部分。但我们告诉你，甜心就在这里，你们所有人，不管有多少人戴着耳机，都会来找那个
甜心。(: 40).这就是如何在头部单元和你的耳机中，以及我们制造的新系统中，我们告诉
你，我们去看穆罕默德的灵魂，祝福他的名字，或者基督，美丽的灵魂。

Because I have already shown you the strength field of the Soul. And you will come in,
and the interaction will create you that beautiful light. Now you see, nothing is magic,
and you understand it. And I promise, I will never bring a magic up. But I'll show you the
magic. It's you who can fool yourself, not fooled by us.
因为我已经向你展示了灵魂的力量领域。你会进来，互动会为你创造美丽的光。现在你明白
了，没有什么是神奇的，你明白了。我保证，我永远不会提起魔法。但我会让你看看魔法。
是你自己骗自己，而不是被我们骗。

Now you understand how the systems we have put in, and you come in or you join in,
brings radiation and the new dimension to your understanding. Mr. Keshe, I came in, but
I felt nothing, I didn't have a banana. And I didn't enjoy the kebab. The Chinese brought
in the sushi's, the Japanese brought in, and they said that they didn't feel any sushi. Because you
came in with the full stomach of expectation.
现在你明白了我们所投入的系统，以及你的加入，给你的理解带来了辐射和新的维度。凯什
先生，我进来了，但我什么都没感觉到，我没有香蕉。我不喜欢烤肉串。中国人带来了寿
司，日本人带来了寿司，他们说他们没有感觉到任何寿司。因为你带着满满的期待走进来。

How many of you, this Sunday will taste the essence of the Creation of the Creator? How
many of you will smell the Soul of it? You thought the body of the man only carries
odor? Let till one have you smell the odor of the Creator. (:42). You'll give your life for
it. Let alone seeing it, or feel it.
这个星期天，你们中有多少人将品尝到造物主创造的精华？你们中有多少人会闻到它的灵
魂？你以为那个人的尸体只有气味？直到你闻到造物主的气味。(: 42).你会为此付出生
命。更别说看到它，或者感觉到它。

Now you understand, the technology we submit and we have brought in, it's to take man
the correct way, that he cannot be fooled by no magician anywhere, in the name of
prophets on this planet and beyond. The only magic is understanding of the process of the
Creation of the condition at the time and the place where it interacts. Now you understand
why we put Hydrogen, and why we put another thing, and why we create Cosmic Rays.
现在你明白了，我们提交和引进的技术，是为了让人类走上正确的道路，他不会被任何地方
的魔术师愚弄，以这个星球和其他地方的先知的名义。唯一的魔力是理解当时条件的创造过
程和相互作用的地点。现在你明白了为什么我们放氢气，为什么我们放另一种东西，为什么
我们创造宇宙射线。

The first time I created the Cosmic Rays in the nuclear contained reactors in Tehran, was
magic. Because Iranian scientists sitting on the table with me said, nobody understands
these things. But now every one of you understands it. The intelligence, the knowledge of
you as Knowledge Seekers has reached the level of the professors and the prophets of the
past. Because now there is no magic, you understand how Christ rose the dead, you
understand how the other guy cut something else, and you understand how the other guy
did not bring the rest of the messages from the mountain. It's what it suit them in the
dimension of the interaction of their Souls with their environment and the people who
were there to do. (:44).
我第一次在德黑兰的核反应堆中创造宇宙射线，是魔术。因为和我一起坐在桌子上的伊朗科
学家说，没有人理解这些事情。但现在你们每个人都明白了。你们作为知识寻求者的智慧和
知识已经达到了过去的教授和先知的水平。因为现在没有魔法了，你明白了基督是如何复活
的，你明白了另一个人是如何切割别的东西的，你也明白了另一个人是如何没有从山上带来
其余的信息的。这是在他们的灵魂与他们的环境和在那里做的人的互动的维度上适合他们
的。(: 44).

If you understand the simple principle of the Creation, which I showed you today, you
cannot be fooled, unless you want to be fooled. Anywhere in the Universe, you need to
understand the position, the interaction, and the understanding, and the totality of the total
knowledge we have dispersed.
如果你理解了我今天向你展示的简单的创造原理，你就不会被愚弄，除非你想被愚弄。在宇
宙中的任何地方，你都需要理解我们所分散的全部知识的位置、相互作用、理解和整体。

We have to see, we have to understand, we have to be part of. How our world has come
to be created? How the initial essence of the main plasma, the main energy fields, we
call, the Creator has led to the creation of us, as a moon. Every Soul of every created
thing is that another moon, as we see with Saturn, and Jupiter, with Earth, and other
entities in the Universe. (:46).
我们必须看到，我们必须理解，我们必须成为其中的一部分。我们的世界是如何被创造出来
的？最初的本质是如何主要的等离子体，主要的能量场，我们称之为，造物主创造了我们，
作为一个月亮。每一个被创造的事物的每一个灵魂都是另一个月亮，就像我们看到的土星、
木星、地球和宇宙中的其他实体一样。(: 46).
Now, we need to comprehend. Now, we have come to the point, the final points of
Creation. In the future, when the time comes, when man intelligence reaches
understanding of part of the Totality, then I will explain to you how the fields in the
Hydrogen gathered. By what principle, one plasma decides to be the size of the electron,
and one decides to be the size of the Soul of the Creator. There is no difference between
the two in the process of their Creation.
现在，我们需要理解。现在，我们已经到了这一点，创造的最后几点。在未来，当时间到来
时，当人类的智慧达到理解整体的一部分时，我会向你们解释氢中的场是如何聚集的。根据
什么原理，一个等离子体决定了电子的大小，一个等离子体决定了造物主灵魂的大小。两者
在创作过程中没有任何区别。

Then the question for humanity will come, where did the fields of the Soul of the Creator
came from? Then at that point, you will understand, you need to understand about the
Universal Fields, and not just only Cosmic Rays. Where the Universal Fields come from
a different dimension of interaction, and is the creator of the Totality.
那么人类的问题就来了，造物主的灵魂之地从何而来？在这一点上，你会明白，你需要了解
宇宙场，而不仅仅是宇宙射线。宇宙领域来自不同的互动维度，是整体的创造者。
The Prophets of the past, being given the knowledge, they came out with different levels. In the
dimension of the writing of Bahaullah, bless his name, he refers to seven valleys. Mohammed wrote
in a different name, so did Jesus, so did Moses, so did Buddha. But in
essence, the valley is the levels of the life of the Soul, (:48). in the dimension of their
existence, and no more. Very much the way you call it, chakras. When you understand
one leads to creation of the other, when you understand one you understand how one was
created out of the others.
过去的先知，被赋予了知识，他们以不同的层次出现。在巴哈乌拉的写作维度中，祝福他的
名字，他提到了七个山谷。穆罕默德用不同的名字写道，耶稣也是，摩西也是，佛陀也是。
但本质上，山谷是灵魂生命的层次，（：48）。在他们存在的维度中，没有更多。就像你说
的，脉轮。当你理解了一个，就会创造另一个，当你理解了一个，你就会理解一个是如何从
另一个创造出来的。

Now, for humanity, there is one question, what man, .. what the world the knowledge of
the man will take man to, with this new knowledge, and this new understanding? In what
point in the world of Creation, you decide to become, to live in the dimension of the
physicality (P), or in the dimension of the Soul in connection with the Universe?
现在，对于人类来说，有一个问题，什么人，..有了这种新的知识和新的理解，人类的知识
将把人类带向怎样的世界？在创造世界的哪一点上，你决定成为，生活在肉体（P）的维度
中，或者生活在与宇宙相连的灵魂的维度中？

So, as we say, in Farsi, you've been eating from two pots, when you got two wives. One
from the pot of P and one from the pot of the Soul. As it's the habit of the man, it only
shows what hw has stolen, which is the energy packs of the others in the dimension of
physicality.
所以，正如我们所说，在波斯语中，当你有两个妻子时，你会从两个锅里吃饭。一个来自 P
的罐子，一个来自灵魂的罐子。因为这是男人的习惯，它只显示了 HW 偷了什么，那就是其
他人在肉体维度上的能量包。

Now you understand, why all the time in the teachings I referred to, 80% of what do you
take, you do not see, it's from the Universe. Because in a way, your body continuously
creates a condition within it, as you call it, the cells, and you call it, plasma energy packs,
(:50). how to tap into (C)14, and tap to 12. If you understood this, now you understand
why you die by age. Because your Soul learns more to tap to this (C14). It doesn't need
this (C12) anymore. The Soul has learned to become the user of the line of
communication of the Universal Fields, Cosmic Rays, than being satisfied with killing
others.
现在你明白了，为什么在我提到的所有教义中，你所采取的 80%的东西，你没有看到，它来
自宇宙。因为在某种程度上，你的身体不断地在它里面创造一种条件，就像你所说的，细
胞，你所说的，等离子能量包，（：50）。如何接入（C）14，然后接入 12。如果你明白了
这一点，现在你就明白了为什么你会随着年龄而死亡。因为你的灵魂学会了更多地去挖掘这
个（C14）。它不再需要这个（C12）。灵魂已经学会成为宇宙场、宇宙射线的通信线路的使
用者，而不是满足于杀害他人。

Have you ever asked yourself, why you get older you eat less? I don't want to eat this, I
can't eat this. Because the body is getting ready for transformation from Carbon 12
energy transfer, to Carbon 14. You're taking more and more, the Soul is getting mature,
the Soul is finding connection with the other points. Then you say, I have no fear of
death, because your Soul has prepared the physicality for leave the mess behind, what I
used to mature myself, be it the physicality of the man.
你有没有问过自己，为什么年纪越大，吃得越少？我不想吃这个，我不能吃这个。因为身体
正准备从碳 12 能量转移到碳 14。你吸收的越来越多，灵魂变得越来越成熟，灵魂找到了与
其他点的联系。然后你说，我不害怕死亡，因为你的灵魂已经准备好了肉体，把混乱抛在身
后，我用来成熟自己的东西，就是那个人的肉体。
Now, even you should understand the purpose of life, the purpose of old age, the purpose
of what you get to that point. But if the man is mature enough, if the man become wise
enough, he can create a balance between the two and live the life of ever eternity. You've
been searching for the "Fountain of Youth," you have dismissed the process of Creation. (:52).
Because the Soul has no age, you're always young as the day you were born. Age,
time, is the trap for the dimension of physicality.
现在，即使是你也应该明白生活的目的，老年的目的，你到达那个点的目的。但是，如果一
个人足够成熟，如果一个人变得足够聪明，他就能在两者之间创造一种平衡，过上永恒的生
活。你一直在寻找“青春之泉”，你忽略了创造的过程。(: 52).因为灵魂没有年龄，你永
远年轻，就像你出生的那天一样。年龄，时间，是肉体维度的陷阱。

Now, in all these teachings, you come to understand, and you have to answer this
question to yourself, am I the Creator? Or am I the created? Did I come from that seed
with in interaction led to the creation of the tree, with the roots, and the branch? Is my
created, that Soul, which creates that dimension?
现在，在所有这些教导中，你开始明白，你必须对自己回答这个问题，我是创造者吗？还是
我是被创造的？我是不是来自那颗种子，在互动中导致了树的创造，有根，有枝？是我创造
的，那个灵魂，创造了那个维度？

This is how now you understand. We transmute you from matter state, in New York. We
take you to Carbon 14 transmission energy, and we land you in London back in Carbon
12 connection. Now you understand the magic and the connection between transmutation
and transportation. When we transmute you, we use the line of communication of energy
transfer of Carbon 14. And when we transfer you we give you a donkey and a Carbon 12.
这就是你现在所理解的。我们在纽约将你从物质状态转化。我们把你带到碳 14 传输能源，
我们把你送到伦敦，回到碳 12 连接。现在你明白了转化和运输之间的魔力和联系。当我们
转化你的时候，我们使用碳 14 能量转移的通讯线路。当我们转移你的时候，我们给你一头
驴和一个碳 12。

Then it comes, it has to come in a upcoming time for many of you, (:54). why then I'm
not hungry anymore when I arrive in London, where I was starving in New York? Why
in a condition of the earthquake in Turkey so many people are starving, heating and no
medicine. Where the diversion and conversion of the Soul in understanding, every one of
them should be able to transport. Broken legs out of the rubble in the dimension of
physicality, walking with none. That in the dimension of physicality on the rubble, the
Soul will bring out and walk alive. Exactly what the Christ did. But this time you
understand the knowledge, you allow the truth about your own Soul, and you do it
yourself. Or, the Creator of your Soul does it to create a new manifestation.
然后它来了，对你们中的许多人来说，它必须在即将到来的时候到来，（：54）。为什么我
到了伦敦就不饿了，而我在纽约却很饿？为什么在土耳其发生地震的情况下，这么多人在挨
饿，没有暖气，也没有药品。在那里，灵魂的转移和转换在理解中，每一个人都应该能够运
输。在肉体的维度中，断腿从瓦砾中走出，无人行走。在瓦砾上的肉体维度中，灵魂将被带
出并活着行走。正是基督所做的。但这一次你理解了内识，你允许关于你自己灵魂的真相，
你自己去做。或者，你灵魂的创造者这样做是为了创造一个新的显现。

And if on that level, you were brown eyes, and black hair, and all your life you've wanted
to be blond and blue eyes, you manifest yourself next to the physicality you left behind as
blue eyed, blond hair. And you become the "resurrection" of Christ. Now, you understand
there is no magic.
如果在那个层面上，你是棕色的眼睛，黑色的头发，而你一生都想成为金发碧眼的人，你在
你留下的身体旁边表现出自己是蓝眼睛，金发。你就成了基督的“复活”。现在，你明白
了，没有魔法。

This is why you have the purpose of all these transmutation systems, UBESUS,
Enhancement Unit is to tell you, you fooled yourself long enough, the Soul is here. Man
has fooled himself for billions of years, denying the existence of his Creator, and has
become the created in the dimension of physicality. Imprisoning the Creator within it,
call it the STM.
这就是为什么你拥有所有这些嬗变系统的目的，乌贝苏斯，增强单位是为了告诉你，你愚弄
了自己足够长的时间，灵魂就在这里。数十亿年来，人类一直在愚弄自己，否认造物主的存
在，并成为物质性维度中的被造者。把造物主囚禁在其中，称之为 STM.

Now, are you the Creator or created? (:56). Or is it all within? "I am the beginning and I
am the end." Now, it should be very easy for you Knowledge Seekers, who understand
this, to move to the next level, to next understanding. And once you become mature to it,
you will start asking question not about Cosmic Rays, but about Universal Rays. Which
led to creation of the Creator, which created the Cosmic Rays, that you understand. That
needs absolute purity and sincerity, in understanding the knowledge of the Creator of the
Creators. That you, yourself is one of.
现在，你是创造者还是被造者？(: 56).还是都在里面？“我是起点，也是终点。”现在，
对于你们这些理解这一点的知识寻求者来说，应该很容易进入下一个层次，进入下一个理
解。一旦你对它变得成熟，你就会开始问问题，不是关于宇宙射线，而是关于宇宙射线。这
导致了造物主的创造，它创造了宇宙射线，你明白的。这需要绝对的纯洁和真诚，理解造物
主的知识。你，你自己就是其中之一。
When you create a child, and its infant, always looks up to you, because you're very big,
and you're the Creator of it. And then you yourself, look up to the skies to see the
Creator, which created you. But in essence, the Soul of that created child, and the essence
of the Soul of the Creator, which created you, is all the same. Comes from the same
source, comes from understanding of the knowledge of the Creation in interaction of the
fields of the Universe.
当你创造一个孩子时，它的婴儿总是仰视着你，因为你很大，你是它的创造者。然后你自
己，仰望天空，看看创造你的造物主。但在本质上，那个被创造的孩子的灵魂，以及创造
你的造物主的灵魂的本质，都是一样的。来自同一个源头，来自对宇宙领域相互作用中的
造物知识的理解。
As Mohammed, bless his name, said, ？? Salam ？?. This is the totality of the gift of the
Creator. (:58). This is the beginning to the end. And no one understood the message of
Mohammed. Bless it peace on those who understand the process of the Creation, from the
beginning to the end, and for all the beauties which has given you. It's you who have
ignored it.
正如穆罕默德，祝福他的名字，说：?萨拉姆？?.这是造物主礼物的全部。(: 58).这是从
开始到结束。没有人理解穆罕默德的信息。祝福那些理解创造过程的人平安，从开始到结
束，以及给予你的所有美丽。是你忽视了它。

Now, you understand, how a simple CH3 you created in the bottles for years has been the
essence of your own creation, in the dimension of the physicality, or in the dimension of
the Soul. You want to keep it trapped, or you want to let it be free in a bigger dimension? Man
living the life of a schizophrenic is over. Now it's in the hands of a foolish person to
play, and now that foolish person is you. You can fool yourself to deny one or the other,
or learn to live with both at the same time.
现在，你明白了，你多年来在瓶子里创造的一个简单的 CH3 是如何成为你自己创造的本
质，在物质的维度中，或者在灵魂的维度中。你想把它困住，还是想让它在更大的空间里
自由？精神分裂症患者的生活结束了。现在是在一个愚蠢的人手里玩，现在那个愚蠢的人
就是你。你可以自欺欺人地否认其中一个，或者学会同时接受这两个。

Now you understand, how you can change the dimension. How on the Sunday the 19th of
February, in two days time, we take you to eat with the Creator, which is you, you have
created it. And if you look up, you get a better fields, higher strength fields that comes
from the Universe and Unicose. (1:00). Look at the lower energies and become
dimension of your physicality, the banana, the grapes and the rest.
现在你明白了，如何改变维度。在 2 月 19 日的星期天，两天后，我们带你去和造物主一
起吃饭，造物主就是你，你创造了它。如果你往上看，你会得到一个更好的场，更高强度
的场，来自宇宙和 Unicose.( 1: 00).看着较低的能量，成为你身体的维度，香蕉，葡萄
和其他。

So, who would you like to dine with on Sunday? Or who do you dine with on Sunday? Your
Spirit or your Soul? The dimension physicality or the dimension of the Creation and
the Creator? "Mr. Keshe, I didn't feel anything." Yes, because you attached yourself to
physicality. Feel how you feel emotionally the next days, the next month. Because now
you have enlightened the Soul. It took on the table of the food, from the hunger of the
love of the others on the table. Maybe now you understand.
那么，星期天你想和谁一起吃饭？或者星期天你和谁一起吃饭？你的精神还是你的灵魂？
物质维度还是造物和造物主的维度？“凯舍先生，我没有任何感觉。”是的，因为你依附
于肉体。在接下来的日子里，在接下来的一个月里，感受你的情绪。因为现在你已经启迪
了灵魂。它带走了餐桌上的食物，带走了餐桌上别人的饥饿的爱。也许现在你明白了。

What and how you can angle, change the speed of interaction, the distance and the
connection of the Carbon 12 and the Carbon 14, and change the color of your eyes from
yellow to blue, to green, to red, to whatever you call it. Those who understood partially
this, you call them "something shifters." It's your ignorance of the knowledge. They're
not the shifters, they just know how to move the energy within the condition of what you
call, the eyeball in respect to the Soul. (1:02). Then you see different color of the eye. The shifter
is you who had not understood the process of Creation.
你可以改变什么以及如何改变角度，改变相互作用的速度，距离以及碳 12 和碳 14 的连
接，改变你眼睛的颜色，从黄色到蓝色，到绿色，到红色，到你所说的任何颜色。那些部
分理解这一点的人，你称他们为“变形人”。是你对知识的无知。他们不是变形者，他们
只是知道如何在你所谓的眼球相对于灵魂的条件下移动能量。( 1: 02).然后你会看到眼
睛的不同颜色。变形者就是你，你没有理解创造的过程。

This is how most of you at the point of death, you get the blueish, greenish color eye. Because
there is no lies to the Soul. The every everything is ready, and it's the same for
all, to move to the ?? transaction, and transfer and transmutation of the Soul from the
body of the man. It creates that light.
这就是为什么你们中的大多数人在死亡的时候，你得到了蓝色，绿色的眼睛。因为对灵魂
来说没有谎言。一切都准备好了，对所有人来说都是一样的，移动到？交易，以及灵魂从
人的身体中转移和转化。它创造了光。
Time of departure, the Soul, and the STP have the same understanding in the body of the
man, in the body of the president, the king, the dog, the cat and the rest. Interaction of the
fields at certain angles gives the red light in the time of sunset. And man has not
understood, he can do the same with the strength of the field of his physicality and his
Soul, and have the blue eye in the morning, grey eyes at night, and my lover likes honey
green eyes, I create it for it.
离开的时间，灵魂和 STP 在人的身体里，在总统、国王、狗、猫和其他人的身体里都有同样
的理解。在日落时，特定角度的场的相互作用产生红光。人类还没有理解，他可以用他的肉
体和灵魂的能量场的力量做同样的事情，早上有蓝色的眼睛，晚上有灰色的眼睛，我的爱人
喜欢蜜绿色的眼睛，我为它创造了它。

There is no shifting. The only thing is you've been shifty to yourself to understand the
reality about the process of the Creation. Any of you understanding the interaction of the
STM, the interaction of the STP of the man, the interaction of the Soul of the planet at
any point, you will become shifters as fast as the others. (1:04). You don't need to buy a
plastic lens to change the color of your eye. You use the angle of the interaction of the
STP with the STM, and you'll have different color of the skin, the eye, sexuality, and
everything else. Now man has a new knowledge in his hand. How he will evaluate it,
how he will use it, come to be understood.
没有换档。唯一的问题是，你一直对自己摇摆不定，以理解创造过程的现实。你们中的任何
一个人理解了 STM 的互动，理解了人类 STP 的互动，理解了地球灵魂在任何一点上的互动，
你们都会像其他人一样快速地成为变形者。( 1: 04).你不需要买塑料镜片来改变你眼睛的
颜色。你使用 STP 与 STM 互动的角度，你会有不同的肤色，眼睛，性取向和其他一切。现在
人类掌握了新的知识。他将如何评价它，他将如何使用它，逐渐被理解。

And all these sessions we are putting for 20th, the 19th and others to come, is that process
for you to become mature in that process. I wonder how many of you will start shifting. The process
of the Sunday, "Dining with the Creator，" for the first time we'll be using a
condition system，which creates within its center the Soul of the Creation. It's taking our
team years of understanding, and months and weeks of preparation. When you eat with
the Creator, you'll eat from the Soul of the Creation.
我们为第 20 届、第 19 届和其他会议安排的所有会议，都是让你在这个过程中变得成熟的过
程。我想知道你们中有多少人会开始转变。周日的过程，“与造物主共进晚餐”，我们将首
次使用一个条件系统，它在其中心创造了造物的灵魂。这需要我们团队多年的理解，以及数
月和数周的准备。当你和造物主一起吃饭时，你会吃掉造物的灵魂。

When I saw it, last few days，I said，now man might understand what gift they're given. If
knowledgeable Knowledge Seekers know how to manipulate the fields of this system, the
way it's created，from the STM to the Soul of the planet，to the Soul of the Creator，man
shall see the Soul of the creator of himself, which is his own Soul. (1:06).
最近几天，当我看到它时，我说，现在人类可能明白他们被赋予了什么礼物。如果知识渊博
的知识寻求者知道如何操纵这个系统的领域，它被创造的方式，从 STM 到行星的灵魂，到造
物主的灵魂，人类将看到自己的造物主的灵魂，也就是他自己的灵魂。( 1: 06).

Those of you who go through the experience with us on Sunday, you will come out a
totally different person in the dimension of the Soul. How that knowledge will be
transferred in the energy fields of the "food of the knowledge," and not food of the
physicality，then we'll see who shall be enlightened.
你们中那些在周日和我们一起经历这段经历的人，你们将在灵魂的维度上成为一个完全
不同的人。知识将如何在“知识的食物”的能量场中转移，而不是物质的食物，然后我
们将看到谁将被启发。

One of the most sophisticated systems ever created by man, to create the condition of the
interaction of the Soul, will be on display and work on Sunday. I wonder how many of
you will come with the satisfaction of dining with the Soul of the Creator. And how many
of you will come still expecting to taste the banana, which we put in there to see how you
pass the test, for your own Soul, but not for us. You're dining with your Creator, with
your Soul in the dimension of the fields of the Universe. And if you're sincere enough,
you don't need to look up to see the Creator, but you'll see the Creator within you.
人类创造的最复杂的系统之一，创造了灵魂互动的条件，将在周日展出并发挥作用。我想知
道你们中有多少人会带着与造物主的灵魂共进晚餐的满足感而来。你们中有多少人仍然期待
着品尝香蕉，我们把它放在那里，看看你们如何通过测试，为了你们自己的灵魂，而不是为
了我们。你在与你的造物主共餐，与你的灵魂在宇宙领域的维度中共餐。如果你足够真诚，
你不需要抬头去看造物主，但你会看到你内在的造物主。

Then we shall see, then we understand the next process in the dimension of the Creation. Then we
come to see how us as being part, are part of the Totality, which we have
ignored about our own creation. As Muhammad said, ？? Salam ？?. (1:08). Peace on
those who understand the beauty of the gifts of the Creator, and no more. Because there is
然后我们将看到，然后我们理解在创造的维度中的下一个过程。然后我们开始看到，我们作
为整体的一部分，是整体的一部分，而我们忽略了我们自己的创造。正如穆罕默德所说，?
萨拉姆？?.( 1: 08).和平属于那些理解造物主礼物之美的人，仅此而已。因为有
nothing more than that. You bend to the Wall, you bang your head against it, you're
bending and bang it against the ground 17 times a day. But you never understood the
truth of it. Be it on the wall of the Great Wall in Jerusalem, or be it on the floor on a piece
of a stone in Mecca.
仅此而已。你弯下腰，用头撞墙，你每天弯下腰，用头撞地 17 次。但你永远不会明白其
中的真相。无论是在耶路撒冷的长城上，还是在麦加的一块石头上。

Maybe those who bend 17 times down, and bending and bashing their head on the floor,
will, might get more intelligence than the one who stands against the Wall in one position
and bang it against the wall. Because as you learned, the swing between the angles and
interaction of the fields creates different intelligence. But how that bending and banging
has created the emotion, then it brings devotion. Then you understand why we get so
much radicalism in certain sects of the belief of the Creator. Be it banging the wall, or
banging the ground. It's man who has chosen to be a banger himself. How to do it, and
how ignored the others, because you create mono energetic fields that interacts with
mono energetic rays within the brain of the man. And brings what we call, stupidity of
belief. (1:10). Now you understand now you should be able to push the limitation of the
knowledge beyond this. We have shown you the first step, it's for you to go up the ladder. The
ladder of the knowledge.
也许那些弯下 17 次腰，弯下腰，把头撞在地板上的人，会比那些靠墙站着，把头撞在墙
上的人更聪明。因为正如你所学到的，角度之间的摆动和场的相互作用创造了不同的智
能。但是弯曲和撞击是如何产生情感的，然后它带来了奉献。那么你就会明白为什么我们
在造物主信仰的某些教派中有如此多的激进主义。不管是撞墙还是撞地。这是一个选择自
己成为混混的人。如何做到这一点，以及如何忽略其他人，因为你创造了单一能量场，与
人类大脑中的单一能量射线相互作用。带来了我们所说的，信仰的愚蠢。( 1: 10).现在
你明白了，现在你应该能够把知识的限制推到这之外。我们已经向你展示了第一步，这是
为了让你爬上梯子。知识的阶梯。

We go for a small break, then we come back, and then maybe we can have some mature
discussions about the Creation, and not about the fantasies of man in the dimension of P.
Rick if you'd like to take a break a few minutes the usual transmutation system, which
you'll come up with. We should be for the STM, but we still look at it physicality to take
us into space.
我们去休息一下，然后我们回来，然后也许我们可以有一些关于创造的成熟的讨论，而不
是关于 P.Rick 维度的人的幻想，如果你想休息几分钟，通常的嬗变系统，你会想出来
的。我们应该支持 STM，但我们仍然关注它的物理特性，以便将我们带入太空。

R; And would you like me to play this second part of the isotopes video? (The angle is
everything isotopes and radiation.)
R；你想让我播放同位素视频的第二部分吗？（角度是同位素和辐射的一切。）
K- Yes, please it would be nice.
好的，谢谢，这样很好。

<< BREAK >>> 473 KSW Feb 16, 2023 (1:22).

<<休息>>>473 KSW 2023 年 2 月 16 日（1：22）。
K- There is no condition. It's just that we need to mature the discussion. And to
understand more that we are. As we are developing the technology, as we extend the
knowledge. There is no time for what I call, nonsense, chitchat. And developing,
understanding. We have short space of time, and these times are precious. And we get a
lot of what I call, irrelevant self-centered questions and discussions we had in the past. These
have to finish, we have to come to a point of maturity.
K-没有条件。只是我们需要成熟的讨论。更多地了解我们。当我们开发技术时，当我们扩
展知识时。没有时间进行我所说的胡言乱语。和发展，理解。我们的时间很短，这些时间
很宝贵。我们得到了很多我所说的，不相关的，以自我为中心的问题和我们过去的讨论。
这些必须完成，我们必须达到一个成熟的点。
Our presence in this time of physicality is very short. And the knowledge transfer is
shorter. And as they say, every second counts. How we enjoy. How we, the share of
knowledge. How we evaluate it. How we understand it.
我们在这个物质性时代的存在非常短暂。知识转移时间更短。就像他们说的，分秒
必争。我们多么享受。我们如何分享知识。我们如何评价它。我们如何理解它。

Are there any questions?

还有什么问题吗？

Q: .. (1:24). Hello dear Rick and Mr. Keshe, thank you for your time and your answers. Number
one, a few months ago, you said that with the introduction of the new Cosmic
Ray Generators, the efficiency of the medical procedures performed only by the doctors
will increase dramatically, that what is now achievable in one month with the new
systems will be achieved in just one session. So, is it reasonable to say that in the
following months, the fees for the medical procedures performed by the doctors will be
cut to at least half?
问：..( 1: 24).您好，亲爱的 Rick 和 Keshe 先生，感谢您的时间和您的回答。第一，几
个月前，你说随着新的宇宙射线发生器的引入，仅由医生执行的医疗程序的效率将大幅提
高，现在使用新系统在一个月内可以实现的目标将在一次会议中实现。因此，在未来数个
月内，医生的医疗程序收费最少会减至一半，这是否合理呢？

K- That answer twist, is how greedy is your doctor. Maybe because he reduces the time,
he will double the fees. It's like going to the French restaurant. You get a couple of small
pieces and you pay hundreds of dollars for it. You go to a Chinese restaurant, you pay 2
dollars, you get a big plate ...
答案是，你医生有多贪婪。也许因为他减少了时间，他会加倍收费。就像去法国餐厅一
样。你得到了几个小块，你为它支付了数百美元。你去一家中国餐馆，你付 2 美元，你
得到一个大盘子……

R: Gourmet is half the food for twice the price.

R：美食是一半的食物，价格是两倍。

K- Yeah. As we say, if you understand it, we say gourmet is for "gorbey." "Gorbey" in
Farsi means cat. It's so little, it just feeds a cat.
K-是的。正如我们所说，如果你理解它，我们说美食家是“戈尔贝”。“戈尔贝”在
波斯语中是猫的意思。它太小了，只能喂猫。
The reality is, now the way the technology, understand of technology evolves. I was
thinking about this actually yesterday. If we mature enough, our system, technology
develops enough rapidly. This is what we see. And we are faced with it on a daily basis in
Keshe Foundation. A lot of things which are not there, (1:26). at the moment is a dream
to achieve, become reality.
现实是，现在技术的方式，对技术的理解不断发展。其实我昨天就在想这个问题。如果我
们足够成熟，我们的系统、技术发展足够迅速。这是我们看到的。在科舍基金会，我们每
天都要面对这个问题。很多东西都不存在（1：26）。此刻是梦想实现，成为现实。

Yesterday afternoon, I had the greatest pleasure to meet the two brothers for the first
time, second time, or for the first time, since they start the process with our doctors. I had
the two brothers in Linz Center with the parents. The mother was so touched, so moved,
that before January, before our doctors start the process with them, both boys were
sentenced to death. As we all know, genetic defect. There is examples of it. And she knelt
on the ground in the offices of Linz, and she asked her son, can you move your legs? We
saw the boy in a wheelchair. And the boy started putting one leg forward, out of the hand
back on the chair, one leg up, one leg down. She said, before Christmas, she could not do
anything. Where she kneeled on the ground, back packing him on her back. And I was
wondering, why she's doing that. She said, look, now he can bring his legs and lock in
front. Before Christmas his legs were dangling like 2 pieces of meat. This is the
knowledge. This is how the new technologies interacted. She says, since Christmas we
have seen reversal of what we saw that the boys will die. Now we are getting our children
back. (1:28).
昨天下午，我非常高兴地第一次、第二次或第一次见到两兄弟，因为他们与我们的医生开
始了这一进程。我有两个兄弟和父母在林茨中心。这位母亲非常感动，非常感动，以至于
在一月份之前，在我们的医生开始对他们进行治疗之前，两个男孩都被判处了死刑。众所
周知，基因缺陷。有这样的例子。她跪在林茨办公室的地上，她问她的儿子，你的腿能动
吗？我们看到那个男孩坐在轮椅上。男孩开始把一条腿向前，伸出手放回椅子上，一条腿
向上，一条腿向下。她说，在圣诞节之前，她什么都不能做。她跪在地上，背上背着他。
我在想，她为什么要这么做。她说，看，现在他可以把腿和锁在前面了。圣诞节前，他的
腿像两块肉一样晃来晃去。这就是知识。这就是新技术相互作用的方式。她说，自从圣诞
节以来，我们已经看到了我们所看到的逆转，男孩们将会死去。现在我们要找回我们的孩
子。( 1: 28).
We didn't do anything. We just released the energy of the plasma for the Soul to ？? be fit
the pain of the grandfather. That's all we did. When I saw the boy, being cuddled by the
mother, wants to show that he can take steps again. It touches you. When you see the
mother can hold the child again with the hope that, I'm not going to lose it. It brings a lot
of knowledge, and a lot of emotion. Then, how much, how much we can give back to
many parents like this? People living in pain for years and years. And now they can live
without it.
我们什么都没做。我们刚刚为灵魂释放了等离子体的能量。?适应祖父的痛苦。这就是我
们所做的。当我看到这个男孩被母亲抱着，想要证明他可以再次迈步。它触动了你。当你
看到母亲可以再次抱着孩子，希望我不会失去它。它带来了很多知识和情感。那么，我们
能回馈多少，多少像这样的父母呢？人们年复一年地生活在痛苦中。现在没有它他们也能
生活。
We see this now every day with the work of our doctors. We can't put a price on it. How
much would you pay, how much the doctor would ask. Our doctors, the only thing they
give is the love and care. You should see the doctors we deal with in Keshe Foundation. They're
devoted to serve. That they .. see that change. And would they charge a million
for giving a child back? Or would they do it that it will come in time to cover everything
which needs it. We received the blessing of the Soul, in different ways. (1:30). When it
comes to the people who receive it and the people who give it. You can't price it, it's
impossible. Absolutely impossible. And depends on what the doctors will do.
我们现在每天都在医生的工作中看到这一点。我们不能给它定价。你会付多少钱，医生会
问多少钱。我们的医生，他们唯一给予的就是爱和关怀。你应该去看看我们在 Keshe 基金
会工作的医生。他们致力于服务。他们……看到那个变化了吗？他们会因为把孩子送回去
而收取一百万吗？或者他们会这样做，它会及时来覆盖需要它的一切。我们以不同的方式
接受了灵魂的祝福。( 1: 30).当涉及到接受它的人和给予它的人时。你不能给它定价，
这是不可能的。绝对不可能。这取决于医生会怎么做。

What I see in the near future when we can extend the totality of the knowledge, it should
be a standard fee accepted by like, insurance companies and the government's, as part of
the feeding program. Now you go to supermarket you buy a banana, and food and
whatever for the whole week. And you go to the government, they give you a coupon,
because you have no income, that what you can shop. The government's or like you
yourself can buy coupons for your energy and your whatever else. Given by the structure
of the governing of this planet. It does not matter if you're black, white, you're in Africa,
you're in a disaster zone or you live in palaces.
在我看来，在不久的将来，当我们能够扩大知识的总量时，它应该是保险公司和政府接受
的标准费用，作为喂养计划的一部分。现在你去超市买一根香蕉，一周的食物和其他东
西。你去找政府，他们会给你一张优惠券，因为你没有收入，所以你可以购物。政府或者
像你自己一样，可以为你的能源和其他任何东西购买优惠券。由这个星球的统治结构给
出。不管你是黑人，白人，你在非洲，你在灾区，或者你住在宫殿里。

Very soon in upcoming years, nowadays, those who are vegetarians, they look at those
who eat meat and they frown at them, oh you are killing an animal, even though they're
killing themselves more. Will come the plasmatic food, what we call, plasmatic energy,
that man will frown on those who kill to eat.
在接下来的几年里，现在，那些素食主义者，他们看着那些吃肉的人，他们皱眉，
哦，你正在杀死一只动物，即使他们正在杀死更多的自己。会有血浆食物，我们称之
为血浆能量，人类会对那些为了吃而杀人的人皱眉。

Energy has become the commodity, be is as oil, as food, as medicine. What we see now
in the process of the development, (1:32). one single system used in the appropriate way
for different application, can give you everything. This planet needs one central system of
feeding, what the planet itself and in its Soul missed, and led man to creation.
能源已经成为商品，就像石油、食品、药品一样。我们现在看到的发展过程，（1：
32）。一个单一的系统以适当的方式用于不同的应用，可以给你一切。这个星球需要一个
中央喂养系统，这个星球本身和它的灵魂错过了什么，并引导人类去创造。

We can create a secondary system, which the basis of it now are in Austria. The
beginning of that system has already taken shape, the seed has been sown. That one
system will feed all of us. Feed our emotion, that we don't commit suicide, we don't do
crime. Feed our physical need on daily basis. This is not anymore dream, it's already
there. We use the same system in a different way for you, and you touched the Soul of
your Prophet. We used the same system last time for another purpose for you to
understand your travel capabilities. And we'll use the same system on Sunday in a
different strength for you to feed your Soul. This will bring a new game into play.
我们可以创建一个二级系统，它的基础现在在奥地利。这一制度的开端已经形成，种子已
经播下。一个系统将养活我们所有人。满足我们的情感，我们不自杀，我们不犯罪。每天
满足我们的生理需求。这不再是梦，它已经在那里了。我们以不同的方式为你使用同样的
系统，你触动了你的先知的灵魂。我们上次使用相同的系统是为了另一个目的，让您了解
您的旅行能力。我们将在周日以不同的力量使用相同的系统来喂养你的灵魂。这将带来一
个新的游戏。
Would the systems which we'll create, be it robots, will have emotion from now on? True
emotion, true Soul. And would they become humane? Then in a near future, as we see the
robotic growing in far East in Japan, and in Korea, and the rest. Would our robots will be
given a brain cell, the same as all of us, that they carry emotion? It's not just, "how can I
serve you? Would you like water?" It would be, how can I serve you? Would you like
water? With emotion. Where that emotion brings peace to the man to receives it. (1:34). We're
not very far, because we have created a system which has a Soul.
我们将要创造的系统，不管是机器人，从现在开始会有情感吗？真情感，真灵魂。他们
会变得人道吗？然后在不久的将来，当我们看到机器人在远东、日本、韩国和其他地方
发展时。我们的机器人会不会像我们所有人一样，被赋予一个携带情感的脑细胞？不仅
仅是，我怎么为你服务？你要喝水吗？那就是，我怎么为你服务？你要喝水吗？带着感
情。在那里，这种情感给接受它的人带来了平静。( 1: 34).我们不是很远，因为我们创
造了一个有灵魂的系统。

All these Headphones your buy, all these energy systems, which is now coming out of the
Keshe Foundation, carry a Soul with them. You will understand how we reach you. Yesterday
for the first time we tested the effect of the Headphones, which you've seen
displayed on Monday. It has an amazing, amazing result. Visuality of presence that you
have to decide to open the eye where you are. Dimension of the field of opening of the
body from shackles of pain. Now you understand.
你买的所有这些耳机，所有这些能量系统，现在都来自 Keshe 基金会，它们携带着一个灵
魂。你会明白我们是如何联系你的。昨天，我们第一次测试了耳机的效果，你已经在周
一看到了。它有一个惊人的，惊人的结果。你必须决定在你所在的地方睁开眼睛。从痛
苦的枷锁中打开身体的领域的维度。现在你明白了。

We don't need to be in the world of medicine. We are in the world of plasma technology,
creation and created. And if the knowledge of plasma becomes a criminal offence for
those who touch the Creator and the creation, which is yourself, then we have a problem. Then
we have created Mullahs, Ayatollahs, intermediaries of the crimes for man to
understand its own Soul.
我们不需要进入医学世界。我们在等离子技术的世界里，创造和创造。如果等离子体的
知识成为那些接触造物主和造物，也就是你自己的人的犯罪行为，那么我们就有问题
了。然后我们创造了毛拉，阿亚图拉，犯罪的中间人，让人类了解自己的灵魂。
A crime against God, where you don't even know what God is, and you kill people for it. You
are godless. And you're full of what I call, nonsense. Using our name to destroy
others. This is what you have to understand, man has no choice. (1:36). You put a price
on it, we put a price on it. And very soon, very soon, these technologies will be freely
available to all citizens of this planet, and to our guest from other parts of the Universe. Then
you don't cost it. It won't be half, it will be free.
这是对上帝的犯罪，你甚至不知道上帝是什么，你却为此杀人。你是无神论者。你满脑
子都是我所谓的废话。用我们的名义去毁灭别人。这是你必须明白的，男人没有选择。(
1: 36).你给它定价，我们给它定价。很快，很快，这些技术将免费提供给这个星球上的
所有公民，以及我们来自宇宙其他地方的客人。那你就不用花钱了。不会是一半，会是
免费的。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. You said that for 1 kilowatts of energy drawn from the grid, the new systems will
feed back into the grid 3 kilowatts. Now, the normal 220 volt power meters measure only
the energy you draw from the grid, which is called "active" energy, and not the one you
feed back in, which is called "reactive" energy. So, you can feed back as much as you
like. The new power meters for photo voltaic on grid systems measure both the act of
energy that you pay and the energy you feedback in and you get paid for it. So this setup
is perfect for your Cosmic Rays systems.
问：..你说过，从电网获取 1 千瓦的能量，新系统将向电网反馈 3 千瓦的能量。现在，普
通的 220 伏电表只测量你从电网中提取的能量，称为“有功”能量，而不是你反馈的能
量，称为“无功”能量。所以，你可以尽情地反馈。电网系统上的光伏发电的新电表既
可以测量你支付的能量，也可以测量你反馈的能量，你可以为此得到报酬。所以这个装
置非常适合你的宇宙射线系统。

The normal 380 volts power meters that I have, however, measure both the active and
reactive energy with the clarification that, if I feed back into the grid, more than half a
kilowatt for every kilowatt, I draw from the grid, (1:38). then I pay a lot. So, if I were to
feed back into the grid, three kilowatts, for every kilowatt I draw, I will end up bankrupt.
Therefore, how can I not feed back into the grid those three kilowatts and instead loop
them back into the system or install an additional sink?
然而，我拥有的普通 380 伏电表测量有功和无功电能，并说明，如果我反馈到电网中，每
千瓦超过半千瓦，我从电网中提取（1：38）。然后我付出了很多。所以，如果我每消耗
一千瓦，就向电网反馈三千瓦，我就会破产。因此，我怎样才能不将这三千瓦的电力反
馈到电网中，而是将它们回送到系统中或安装一个额外的水槽？
K- This what you put on the table, got to be known by the Swiss Electricity Board very
earlier on, in early time when the Swiss Knowledge Seekers started putting MaGravs in
their houses. The Swiss power supplies realized the transformers are getting blown up,
but nothing coming as a high energy from the power station side. They tracked it down,
they saw, in a way, they're putting less energy in, but they're getting more back. And they
drew it down to the houses where Knowledge Seekers were using the MaGrav system. This is
where they change the capacity of the transformers. And it brought some
reduction in power supply in Switzerland.
你放在桌子上的东西，很早就被瑞士电力委员会知道了，在瑞士知识寻求者开始在他们的房
子里放置磁引力时。瑞士电力供应公司意识到变压器被炸毁了，但没有任何来自发电站方面
的高能量。他们追踪了它，他们看到，在某种程度上，他们投入了更少的精力，但他们得到
了更多的回报。他们把它拉到知识寻求者使用马格拉夫系统的房子里。这是他们改变变压器
容量的地方。这也减少了瑞士的电力供应。

The Americans do this, they penalize you if you supply, because then they cannot charge
you for the electricity, which they are charging you for the fuel. The what you call, active
and reactive is known to us for a long time. We don't bring it into public, this is the first
time you brought into public.
美国人这样做，如果你供应，他们就会惩罚你，因为他们不能向你收取电费，而他们却向你
收取燃料费。你所说的主动和被动，我们早就知道了。我们不公开，这是你第一次公开。

We put, if you saw the presentation from Tehran, where we were showing the setup of
the energies. We set up the active and reactive. (1:40). We were measuring both. Our
team couldn't understand it. But we had tests beforehand where we looked at the reactive
and interactive (active) of it.
如果你看了德黑兰的演示，我们把它放在那里，我们展示了能量的设置。我们设置了主动和
被动。( 1: 40).我们两个都在测量。我们的团队无法理解。但我们事先进行了测试，我们
观察了它的反应和交互（主动）。

If you give this technology of interactive (active) and reactive situation to the African
nations, they'll kiss your hand for it. This allows reduction in building power stations. In
a way, I take one kilowatt, I give it three kilowatt back. So, they will choose how many
people will have these systems. Would they install it in governmental offices? Or would
they let certain number of people to have, that it cannot produce over? Then nations
become self sufficient.
如果你把这种互动（主动）和反应的技术给非洲国家，他们会亲吻你的手。这可以减少发电
站的建设。在某种程度上，我拿了一千瓦，我给它三千瓦。所以，他们会选择有多少人会拥
有这些系统。他们会把它安装在政府办公室吗？或者他们会让一定数量的人拥有，它不能生
产吗？然后国家变得自给自足。

In Africa, now we'll reach, according to the United Nations, the maximum natural
production of electricity. Which is a higher, what you call it, a higher power than the rest
of it, what we can get. This is why Africa has run into economical development
stagnation. Because they cannot produce any more electricity from natural resources.
在非洲，根据联合国的数据，现在我们将达到最大的自然发电量。这是一种更高的，你所说
的，比我们所能得到的更高的力量。这就是非洲陷入经济发展停滞的原因。因为他们不能从
自然资源中生产更多的电力。

With this, we feedback, using the natural resources we can put four times, five times
more. In the West, we have this problem. As you said, we are fully aware of this for
nearly six, seven years. When we received communication from the Swiss, part of our
work, that the transformers in certain substations are getting changed, because
Knowledge Seekers are using MaGravs. They traced it down to which house is putting
energy back in. They checked it, it was nothing, it's just they cannot find the source. (1:42). They
could see the MaGravs.
有了这个，我们反馈，使用自然资源，我们可以投入四倍，五倍以上。在西方，我们有这个
问题。正如你所说，我们在近六、七年前就充分意识到了这一点。当我们收到来自瑞士的信
息时，这是我们工作的一部分，某些变电站的变压器正在改变，因为知识寻求者正在使用磁
引力场。他们追踪到了哪栋房子正在把能量放回去。他们检查过了，没什么，只是他们找不
到源头。( 1: 42).他们可以看到马格拉夫。

This is why some of you say, I don't see any benefits from my MaGrav. Yes, because you
have not managed to sink it, as our questioner put it. There are different ways to sink this
energy before the meter, not after the meter. This was discussed with Keshe Foundation
Knowledge Seekers team, matter of two or three weeks ago. We actually built it and
watched it. Our team in Iran back in, we release the communication said, Mr. Keshe, we
are consuming more. We are putting more out in the meter, than we actually are
consuming. We got to pay. We use 1 kilowatt, but we receive 2 kilowatts on the meter. We know
this, but it's the way of approach.
这就是为什么你们中的一些人说，我没有从我的马格拉夫中看到任何好处。是的，正如我们
的提问者所说，因为你没有设法击沉它。有不同的方法可以在米之前而不是米之后下沉这种
能量。这是两三周前与 Keshe Foundation Knowledge Seekers 团队讨论的问题。我们实际
上建造了它并观看了它。我们在伊朗的团队回来后，我们发布了通讯说，Keshe 先生，我们
正在消耗更多。我们在计价器中放出的东西比我们实际消耗的要多。我们得付钱。我们使用
1 千瓦，但我们在电表上收到 2 千瓦。我们知道这一点，但这是接近的方式。

In a very short time, I'll be traveling to China and this will resolve the energy crisis in
Chinese structure. Chinese for a long time built one coal power station every week to
meet the demand of their growth in industry. And with the coal crisis, and the energy
crisis, and Covid, and the rest of it, has created mayhem for them. I had communication
with our Chinese team even yesterday regarding this energy situation. I'll be traveling in
March, April to China. To even sort this, where even a few Knowledge Seekers
supplying in each district can bring reduction in use of coal in China, and substitute
energy usages. We are fully aware of this technology. But in the West you get penalized,
(1:44). because they're looking for the profit of the oil companies and electricity
companies. In other nations to look for, actually bringing life, allowing technologies and
industry to grow.
在很短的时间内，我将前往中国，这将解决中国结构中的能源危机。在很长一段时间里，中
国每周都会建造一座燃煤发电站，以满足其工业增长的需求。随着煤炭危机，能源危机，科
维德，以及其他的危机，给他们制造了混乱。我甚至在昨天就能源问题与我们的中国团队进
行了沟通。我将在三月、四月去中国旅行。甚至对此进行分类，即使是每个地区的几个知识
寻求者供应，也可以减少中国的煤炭使用，并替代能源使用。我们完全了解这项技术。但在
西部，你会受到处罚（1：44）。因为他们在寻找石油公司和电力公司的利润。在其他国家
寻找，实际上带来了生命，使技术和工业得以发展。

The MaGrav systems which you have created and you say it doesn't work, you have paid,
you have done a lot, but your electricity board in your government, in your countries
have benefited by it. And you don't see the benefit of it, because you don't know how to
transfer it.
你创造的 Magrav 系统，你说它不起作用，你付了钱，你做了很多，但你的政府和国家的电
力委员会从中受益。你看不到它的好处，因为你不知道如何转移它。

If you even wind the system backwards, you can take one kilowatt and put up to a
hundred kilowatt back in. A few houses in each area will feed the whole nation. But we're
living in a "money" world. And they don't let you, they penalize you. I know that
Americans have this system, they measure it. But if you go back…And you can't create a
farmhouse for these things, like solar farms and everything else, and the wind farms. This
comes to individuality, how much more you use, how much you will give, and how much
you take.
如果你把系统倒过来，你可以把一千瓦的能量放回去一百千瓦。每个地区的几栋房子就能养
活整个国家。但我们生活在一个“金钱”的世界里。他们不让你这样做，他们会惩罚你。我
知道美国人有这个系统，他们衡量它。但如果你回去…你不能为这些东西创造一个农舍，比
如太阳能农场和其他一切，还有风力农场。这涉及到个性，你多用了多少，你就会付出多
少，你就会索取多少。

Sinking it is very easy, if you understand how to feed back into your own system, before
the meter. What you shown in the meter is already generated, you have to sink it there. Or
make it by ?? order of transformers, back into the level unit in the house. So in a way
your circuit becomes free.
下沉是很容易的，如果你知道如何反馈到你自己的系统，在米之前。你在仪表上显示的已经
生成了，你必须把它沉在那里。还是通过？顺序变压器，回到水平单元的房子里。所以在某
种程度上，你的电路变得自由了。

Then as I said to, in the teaching, presentation of last Monday, (1:46). the electricity
Board will come and take your meter away, because how can you run a house with a
fridge, freezers, air conditioner, with zero energy. We know this from the beginning,
before we launched the MaGravs.
然后，正如我在教学中所说的，上周一的演讲，（1：46）。电力委员会会来把你的电
表拿走，因为你怎么能在零能源的情况下运行一个有冰箱、冰柜、空调的房子。我们从
一开始就知道这一点，在我们发射磁星之前。

But with this new system, we have managed to bury it, with the plasma power production
units. The majority of this is actually buried in. Even though is amplified in another way
through the structure, we have managed to bury most of it.
但有了这个新系统，我们设法用等离子发电装置把它埋葬了。其中大部分实际上都被埋在。
即使通过结构以另一种方式被放大，我们还是设法掩盖了它的大部分。

Each MaGrav system is a massive power generator, it's just you don't know how to use it. Go
beyond your meter, take the electricity which is going to your substations and feed it
back into your house. Then you'll understand. Or divert it back in through the
understanding of the plasma technology. You have to find a balance.
每个 MAGRAV 系统都是一个巨大的发电机，只是你不知道如何使用它。走出你的电表，把电
力送到你的变电站，然后把它反馈到你的房子里。然后你就会明白。或者通过对等离子技术
的理解把它转移回来。你必须找到一个平衡点。
As I explained this before, we are happy with 70 - 80% reduction, because you still pay a
bill and government is happy is earning something. If you go to 100% you get
disconnected, and has happened before. But Knowledge Seekers don't understand why.
正如我之前解释的那样，我们对 70-80%的削减感到高兴，因为你仍然要支付账单，政府也
很高兴能赚到钱。如果你达到 100%，你就会断开连接，这种情况以前也发生过。但知识追
求者不明白为什么。

If you become self-sufficient, what we are putting out very soon as Gas Electric
Generators, that you are not on the grid, they can disconnect you, no problem, because
you create yourself. Then you will be again taxed for living, and having energy of your
own.
如果你变得自给自足，我们很快就会推出燃气发电机，你不在电网上，他们可以断开你的连
接，没有问题，因为你创造了自己。然后，你将再次为生活和拥有自己的能量而被征税。

This is what we are using in the lab already, it's not something that it might happen. (1:48). Our
Knowledge Seekers have to extend the knowledge to go to the next phase of
it. Hopefully, within next, in the second, third phase, what you call it, quarter of this year,
you'll get your generators, Gas Electric Generators, that's what we'll do. No Shak ?? can
bury your ？? wires on the back expenses of people in Europe, by increasing the gas
prices and playing the game. Because you're producing yourself as you need it.
这是我们已经在实验室中使用的，这不是可能发生的事情。( 1: 48).我们的知识寻求者必
须扩展知识才能进入下一阶段。希望，在下一个，在第二，第三阶段，你所说的，今年的一
个季度，你会得到你的发电机，燃气发电机，这就是我们要做的。没有谢克？能埋葬你的
吗？?通过提高天然气价格和玩游戏，来减少欧洲人民的开支。因为你在生产你所需要的东
西。

Conversion of the gas into Gans energy, Cosmic Ray has been the key. And our scientists
have developed it and we are using it. Most of you who will join us on Sunday, for
Dining with the Creator, you're using that new system. We're using the generator inside
the systems, self-sufficient, self-sustained system energy through the Gans, production of
Gans Gas and electric. Energy which we, plasmatic energy which we create ourselves in
the system. It's a freestanding system.
将气体转化为甘斯能量，宇宙射线一直是关键。我们的科学家已经开发了它，我们正在使用
它。你们中的大多数人将在周日加入我们，与造物主共进晚餐，你们正在使用这个新系统。
我们使用系统内部的发电机，通过 Gans 自给自足，自我维持系统能源，生产 Gans 天然气和
电力。我们自己创造的能量，我们自己在系统中创造的等离子体能量。这是一个独立的系
统。

We told you this a long time, the present Enhancement Unit (EU) in UNO still needs a
backup for certain part of it. The new system which for the first time comes into
operation on Sunday, is on that scale. The Gans Gas generator, power generator is inside
the system built in. It's free standing. The only connection we have to it is the
measurement tools, which we use to confirm the energy transfer, and the rest of it, and
what happens to you.
我们已经告诉你很长时间了，目前 UNO 的增强单元（EU）仍然需要对它的某些部分进行备
份。周日首次投入使用的新系统就是这种规模的。Gans 气体发生器，发电机是系统内置
的。它是自由站立的。我们与它的唯一联系是测量工具，我们用它来确认能量转移，以及它
的其余部分，以及发生在你身上的事情。

When you get to that point, then you add the new plasma Enhancement Unit, which we
showed on Monday. Then you become self-sufficient. (1:50). Even the plasma
Enhancement Unit needs to go to the next level of it before its completion. But that will
take a few weeks or months, or when our team understand and see the difference.
当你达到这一点时，你就会添加新的等离子增强单元，这是我们在周一展示的。然后你就会
变得自给自足。( 1: 50).即使是等离子增强单元也需要在完成之前进入下一个级别。但这
将需要几周或几个月的时间，或者当我们的团队理解并看到差异时。

We already, I can show you pictures where we create light, even in a small amount,
without any connection, through plasma transfer. As I said before in teaching, you take a
fluorescent light tube into a magnetic field to show, that you created and the light comes
on. We do that with LED. It's a jump in the knowledge and technology, by a huge leap. Which
means we can feed LEDs without connection.
我们已经，我可以给你看照片，我们通过等离子体转移产生光，即使是少量的，没有任何连
接。正如我之前在教学中所说的，你把一个荧光灯管放进一个磁场中来显示，你创造了光，
然后光就亮了。我们用 LED 做到这一点。这是知识和技术的一次飞跃，是一次巨大的飞跃。
这意味着我们可以在没有连接的情况下为 LED 供电。

And this knowledge is already in the patent released 14 - 15 years ago, or more, 18 years
ago. Where we speak about the lights, without any wire. We have already produced it. Now, our
team needs to strengthen it, understand it, and what you call it, take it to the
next step.
而这些知识已经在 14-15 年前，或者更早，18 年前发布的专利中。在那里我们谈论灯光，
没有任何电线。我们已经生产出来了。现在，我们的团队需要加强它，理解它，以及你所说
的，把它带到下一步。
It's what we call, when you can produce energy in this level, at this level of knowledge in
the matter state, then the whole thing changes. Where you can hold the light, where by
law of physics and by manufacturing they say, it cannot be lit. And you see the light, the
LED, which is a matter state, not a gas state, comes on. (1:52). And now our Knowledge
Seekers have to learn a little bit more, we produce a little bit more energy, then your
problem is how to keep the light out. You need a cover for your lights. Because it will
stay all the time on, you can't switch it off. And it's in the patent. Now it's achievable.
这就是我们所说的，当你能在这个层次，在这个知识层次的物质状态中产生能量时，整个
事情就会改变。在那里你可以拿着灯，在那里根据物理定律和制造业，他们说，它不能被
点燃。你可以看到发光二极管，它是一种物质状态，而不是气体状态，它亮了。( 1:
52).现在我们的知识追求者必须学习更多的东西，我们生产更多的能量，那么你的问题是
如何保持光明。你需要一个灯罩。因为它会一直开着，所以你不能把它关掉。它在专利
里。现在是可以实现的。

If you can hold the LED light and it comes on, then without any connection, then you
understand the, what you call it, the leap and bound in energy technology. And it's all in
the patent. This is where we'll see it. It's a pleasure to see we are reaching that point. You
were happy that you will, what you call it, light up a fluorescent tube, as we saw with Jon
in Arizona. Now the technology has moved on. We can create a light in a matter energy
system, which is the LEDs. Now we extend it, now we evolve it. We see what it is.
如果你能拿着 LED 灯，它就会亮起来，没有任何连接，那么你就会明白，你所说的，能源
技术的飞跃和束缚。这一切都在专利中。这就是我们要看的地方。很高兴看到我们正在达
到这一点。你很高兴你会，你所说的，点亮荧光灯管，就像我们在亚利桑那州看到的乔恩
一样。现在技术已经进步了。我们可以在物质能量系统中创造一种光，那就是 LED.现在
我们扩展它，现在我们进化它。我们看到了它是什么。

This is what it is, you can see it on the screen. The LED light lit by just holding in hand. It's a
huge jump in the world of science. Where we convert the plasma energy into what
we call, electric current, wireless transmission of energy. In a way, (1:54). what Tesla
did, if you understand it in a deeper way. But Tesla created electric power generator, used
the magnetic fields to transfer from Russia to New York. Now you can do this at any
time. Then you see if this LED light according to its standard, has to be what you call it,
has certain currents in it, has been lit by many, many time less energy, but through
interaction with plasma.
这是什么，你可以在屏幕上看到。只要拿在手里，LED 灯就会亮起来。这是科学界的一大
飞跃。在那里我们将等离子体能量转化为我们所说的电流，能量的无线传输。在某种程度
上，（1：54）。特斯拉做了什么，如果你更深入地理解它。但特斯拉发明了发电机，利
用磁场从俄罗斯转移到纽约。现在，您可以随时执行此操作。然后你看看这个 LED 灯，根
据它的标准，必须是你所说的，里面有一定的电流，被很多很多倍的能量点燃，但通过与
等离子体的相互作用。

Then you can see how your computers will run. The next generation of these systems,
wireless systems, as an energy transfer, is on the card. And you put it in the house and
you have it. It may surprise you, the energy from the house, the food you need to live,
interaction with your Soul for all your emotional conditions, transmutation,
transportation. It's matter of months and years, for these to become common use in a
household. And all has been in the patent. We are not saying something out of the pocket. Read
the patents, you see this explained in the patents released in 2006 - 2005.
然后你可以看到你的电脑将如何运行。这些系统的下一代，无线系统，作为一种能量传
输，是在卡上。你把它放在房子里，你就有了它。它可能会让你感到惊讶，来自房子的能
量，你生活所需的食物，与你的灵魂互动，你所有的情绪状况，转化，运输。这是几个月
和几年的事情，这些成为家庭中的普遍使用。所有这些都在专利中。我们不是在说从口袋
里掏出的东西。阅读专利，你可以在 2006-2005 年发布的专利中看到这一解释。

What you see is a magic in the world of science, if you understand it. What it says, "a
small step for man, and huge step for the mankind." For the first time we can create
energy in matter state, in a solid state from interaction of the fields of the plasma. (1:56). It's a
reality and it's upon us. And as the Knowledge Seekers develop this further and
further, then you become independent in energy, food and everything else. Extend it to a
room, you walk in the room you get everything you need, and you walk out of the room.
你所看到的是科学世界里的魔法，如果你理解它的话。它说，“个人的一小步，人类的一
大步。”这是第一次，我们可以在物质状态下创造能量，在固态下，通过等离子体场的相
互作用。( 1: 56).这是一个现实，它就在我们身边。随着知识寻求者在这方面的发展越
来越深入，你在能源、食物和其他一切方面都变得独立。把它扩展到一个房间，你走进房
间，你得到你需要的一切，然后你走出房间。

You have a kitchen nowadays to go and cook, we'll have a kitchen boxes we just walk in
through. As I said to a Knowledge Seeker some times ago, in the new world of plasma
technology kitchens will not exist. You will not have a fridge to put a piece of meat in it,
and a drawer for, apple, and oranges, and another creature. You'll receive the energy like
this light bulb, your Soul, your cells will receive the same energy as it needs, and release
it. And somebody says, oh, you came out of the box, you are all lit up. Did you enjoy
你现在有一个厨房可以去做饭，我们会有一个厨房盒子，我们只是走进去。正如我不久前
对一位知识寻求者所说的，在等离子技术的新世界里，厨房将不复存在。你不会有一个冰
箱来放一块肉，也不会有一个抽屉来放苹果、橘子和其他生物。你会像这个灯泡一样接收
到能量，你的灵魂，你的细胞会接收到它所需要的能量，并释放它。有人说，哦，你从盒
子里出来了，你被点亮了。你喜欢吗
your food? Then when energy goes down your aura is different. Oh, you better go in the
box, you're hungry. This is the reality and it's right in front of you. It's in the hand of a
man.
你的食物？那么当能量下降时，你的气场就不同了。哦，你最好去箱子里，你饿了。这
就是现实，它就在你面前。它在一个男人的手里。

The energy you saw with what do you call, the fluorescent tubes is a different knowledge
than this. Then they can't charge you, and they can't do anything, you become self
sufficient in your own homes. (1:58). In your own places. One of my biggest fear is,
how much they'll jump to stop the commercialization of the Gans Gas unit. The Gans
electric with plasma will come self-sufficiency, because with it will come the Head Units,
with it will come the Compact Unit, with it will come the Enhancement Units, and then
the Flight Units, and everything else. Sooner or later and in coming years, it will be one
Compact System.
你看到的能量，你称之为荧光灯管，是一种不同的知识。然后他们不能向你收费，他们也
不能做任何事情，你在自己的家里变得自给自足。( 1: 58).在你们自己的地方。我最大
的担心之一是，他们会跳多大来阻止甘斯天然气公司的商业化。拥有等离子的 Gans
Electric 将会自给自足，因为随之而来的是头部单元，紧凑型单元，增强单元，然后是
飞行单元，以及其他一切。迟早，在未来的几年里，它将是一个紧凑的系统。

We go to the field to enjoy, and not to kill and to destroy. But we still have to go through
that process of maturity. This new kind of energy brings new intelligence. You'll find out
children born in this kind of environment. People living in this have a total different
mentality, will look at life in a totally different, they'll become peaceful. Because they
don't have to worry to kill, they don't have to fight to exist.
我们去田野是为了享受，而不是为了杀戮和破坏。但我们还是要经历那个成熟的过程。这
种新的能量带来了新的智慧。你会发现在这种环境下出生的孩子。生活在这里的人会有完
全不同的心态，看待生活的方式也会完全不同，他们会变得平和。因为他们不必担心杀
戮，他们不必为了生存而战斗。

I see that now with the doctors, when they go, their volunteers, they go through the
process of their work. This is the knowledge. I wonder how many of you will see these
kinds of lights in different parts of your body on Sunday?
我看到现在的医生，当他们去的时候，他们的志愿者，他们经历了他们的工作过程。这就
是知识。我想知道你们中有多少人会在周日在身体的不同部位看到这种光？

Any other questions?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: Dean (2:00). Mr. Keshe, you've opened such a lot this morning, you really have
opened up Creation. So, does this mean on one level that theology really is going to
struggle with this now, that there is no position anymore for this theology?
问：院长（2：00）。Keshe 先生，你今天早上打开了这么多，你真的打开了创造。
那么，这是否意味着在某种程度上，神学现在真的要与此作斗争，这种神学不再有
立场？

K- Do we care? That's the only question. Instead of fighting and discussing, we've got to
step up and develop. This is the only thing because they say, if you don't want to be a
tomato, you better "catch up." So, let them to be. We don't wait, we don't wait to see their
reaction. We wait to see how they interact, to evolve.
我们在乎吗？这是唯一的问题。我们必须加快发展，而不是争吵和讨论。这是唯一一件
事，因为他们说，如果你不想成为西红柿，你最好“迎头赶上”。所以，让他们去吧。我
们不等待，我们不等着看他们的反应。我们等着看它们如何互动，如何进化。

Q: .. So, you also mentioned that this was going to be opened up to every man on the
planet. Is this a gradual process? Or is this going to be dependent upon the interactions
that happen?
问：..所以，你还提到这将向地球上的每个人开放。这是一个渐进的过程吗？或者这将取
决于发生的互动？
K- Which part? What?
哪一部分？什么？
Q: So, I've noticed that many things are happening around the environments and planet,
and then you come and say something that, obviously has been discussed on a higher
level. And then we as Knowledge Seekers get to experience it, like as you speak it now. So, by
bringing this forward, are you, is it a game between yourself and others? Or is it
something you're just going to bring forward as yourself?
问：所以，我注意到环境和地球周围发生了很多事情，然后你来说一些显然已经在更高层
次上讨论过的事情。然后我们作为知识追求者去体验它，就像你现在说的那样。所以，把
这件事提出来，你是不是，是不是自己和别人之间的游戏？或者这是你要以你自己的身份
提出的东西？
K- What do you mean by that?
你这么说是什么意思？
Q: Are you going to take a position to bring the technology into place, regardless? Is it
something you're going to bring forward?
问：无论如何，你会采取立场将技术落实到位吗？这是你要提出来的吗？
K- We are doing that, regardless. (2:02). I was discussing this with our team. If you go
into what you call it, the Internet world with YouTube, and number of viewers. They say
if you have 4,000 hours of viewing in the past month or a year, you can be benefited by
whatever it comes. We already have tens of thousands of hours of viewing, hundreds of
thousands, millions of hours of viewing around the world, all the teaching. So, it's there. The only
problem for us is that. In a way the lock is that the technology is getting mature
so fast that once it opens up, it's already mature. Then we have to see the next step.
无论如何，我们都要这么做。( 2: 02).我正在和我们的团队讨论这个问题。如果你进入你
所谓的互联网世界，有 YouTube 和观众数量。他们说，如果你在过去的一个月或一年里有
4000 小时的观看时间，你可以从任何事情中受益。我们已经有几万个小时的观看，几十万，
几百万个小时的观看，全世界所有的教学。所以，它在那里。我们唯一的问题是。在某种程
度上，锁定的是技术成熟得如此之快，以至于一旦开放，它就已经成熟了。然后我们要看下
一步。

I remember when we went to Belgium as I said before, they said, why Belgium? Why
have you brought this technology, it's so advanced? Why, why, why Belgium? We come
to Austria, the whole government of Austrian government is to silence this technology. It's a policy,
this has become a national policy with Austrian government to, don't let this
technology to open up. We know it for fact. We ran from one, what it is, and to now to
silence it, try to keep it under control. We don't tell you the problems we face in Austria. And it's
the same with the other nations.
我记得我们去比利时的时候，就像我之前说的，他们说，为什么是比利时？你为什么要带来
这种技术，它太先进了？为什么，为什么，为什么比利时？我们来到奥地利，奥地利政府的
整个政府都在压制这种技术。这是一项政策，这已经成为奥地利政府的一项国家政策，不让
这项技术开放。我们知道这是事实。我们从一个，它是什么，跑到现在让它安静下来，试图
控制它。我们不会告诉你我们在奥地利面临的问题。其他国家也是如此。

Because we touch every aspect of life. Every aspects of life we touch. Agriculture,
medicine, energy, health, space, travel. (2:04). You call it, we are in it. Because it's you
in it, not us. You use it, you will have the advantage of being there to use.
因为我们触及生活的方方面面。我们接触到的生活的方方面面。农业，医药，能源，健康，
空间，旅游。( 2: 04).你叫它，我们就在里面。因为是你在里面，不是我们。当你使用它
时，你将拥有在那里使用的优势。

Yesterday, if you remember in the teaching of the past few days, I explained about the
pig farm. We actually received the data yesterday and it's amazing. The ratio of the death
and loss is 8 to 1. It's profitability and bankruptcy. In the first time, I'm sure in the next
session, because the environment will change in the pig farm and everything else. With
our technology, average loss is just about one in a 100. Where is not used is 8, in some
places 10 to a 100. That brings what's going to happen to the pharmaceuticals, which they
inject these animals. Do these animals need any more antibiotics and the rest of it? So,
you see, we touch that. We touch the farming. The farmer produces more, more profitable
for it. Then we go into every other direction.
昨天，如果你还记得，在过去几天的教学中，我解释了养猪场。我们昨天收到了数据，真是
太棒了。死亡与损失之比为 8：1。是盈利和破产。在第一次，我相信在下一届，因为环境会
改变，在养猪场和其他一切。使用我们的技术，平均损失仅为百分之一。不使用的地方是
8，在某些地方是 10 到 100。这就带来了药物的变化，他们给这些动物注射药物。这些动物
需要更多的抗生素和其他东西吗？所以，你看，我们触摸它。我们接触农业。农民生产得更
多，利润也更高。然后我们进入其他方向。

Yesterday as I said, we had the pleasure to see these two boys, and the mother said, do
you know how many calls I get all the time from pharmaceuticals and the government
knowing my two children have this condition, that they want to give us new chemicals
and I say no. Because if they find it, they charge it, and then it cost them millions, (2:06).
and the insurance company pays.
昨天，正如我所说，我们很高兴看到这两个男孩，母亲说，你知道我一直接到多少来自制药
公司和政府的电话，知道我的两个孩子有这种情况，他们想给我们新的化学品，我说不。因
为如果他们找到它，他们会收取费用，然后花费数百万美元，（2：06）。保险公司支付。

The more Knowledge Seekers uses these technologies and the more it becomes prevalent,
the harder it becomes for it to be covered. We don't need to do much. The support we
have amongst the Knowledge Seekers in the fundamental way is carrying us through. And we will
succeed. Because we is all of us. We produced the Gans, we just.
知识寻求者使用这些技术的次数越多，技术越普及，就越难被覆盖。我们不需要做太多。我
们在知识寻求者中得到的支持从根本上帮助我们度过难关。我们会成功的。因为我们是我们
所有人。我们生产甘斯，我们只是。
You have to understand, I had the pleasure of meeting couple of very young Knowledge
Seekers 14, 15, 16, in past few months, and they all come through it through their
parents. And they say, I want to work in this, I want to be in the plasma, I want to work
for Keshe Foundation, I want to be a KS. Why do these new generation will bring for us?
你必须明白，在过去的几个月里，我有幸遇到了几个非常年轻的求知者，他们分别是 14
岁、15 岁、16 岁，他们都是通过父母来的。他们说，我想在这个领域工作，我想在等离子
领域工作，我想为 KESHE 基金会工作，想成为 KS.为什么这些新一代会为我们带来？
You know, you always talked about the Gans, you ？?，this and that. Me at age of eight,
coming in touch with x rays, and Gamma rays, you see what happened. These children's
been born in the world of plasma and Gans's, can you imagine what they will come up
with? It's a cooking pot to explode.
你知道，你总是谈论甘斯，你？，这个和那个。我八岁的时候，接触到了 X 射线和伽马射
线，你看到发生了什么。这些孩子出生在等离子和甘斯的世界里，你能想象他们会想出什
么吗？这是一个要爆炸的锅。

Q: I've met some of these guys, and I know how beautiful they are. So, Mr. Keshe
another thing would be, so all of this depends on the twist. So, you can create a condition
just by a twist. So that takes me to the people that are going to be present on this Sunday. How
can I use this information today to reach to the level that the Soul would require？
问：我见过一些这样的人，我知道他们有多漂亮。所以，凯什先生，另一件事是，所有这
些都取决于转折。所以，你可以通过扭转来创造一个条件。所以这把我带到了这个星期天
将要出席的人那里。今天，我怎样才能使用这些信息来达到灵魂所需要的水平？

K- Your Soul has already reached, you to reach your physicality to understand. (2:08).
你的灵魂已经到达，你到达你的肉体去理解。( 2: 08).

Q: As always, Mr. Keshe.

问：一如既往，凯什先生。

K- The system we use on Sunday, it'll be the first time ever. I discussed this months and
months ago. And now our team has managed to put it together, it's actually physically
operating. We never been in it. It'll be very interesting in how you people will respond. In
a way how you respond, what you get from it, what feedback we get from it. What we'll
see in our monitoring system during the process will give us a huge insight into the next
step of development.
我们周日使用的系统，这将是有史以来第一次。我几个月前就讨论过了。现在我们的团队
已经设法把它放在一起，它实际上是物理操作。我们从没进去过。你们的反应会很有趣。
在某种程度上，你如何回应，你从中得到了什么，我们从中得到了什么反馈。在这个过程
中，我们将在我们的监控系统中看到什么，这将让我们对下一步的发展有一个深刻的了
解。

We have two units, one is going through test and development, and another unit, just
about a meter away, is stayed in its carcass, just a frame made. And I'm looking at it,
when it is going to be done? It's not going to be done, till they finish complete maturity
of this one, that they can replicate it in the next one, next door. Then we'll see a giant
move. You have that two Souls interacting with each other.
我们有两个单元，一个正在进行测试和开发，另一个单元，就在大约一米远的地方，留在
它的尸体里，只是一个框架。我正在看着它，它什么时候能完成？这是不会完成的，直到
他们完成这一个的完全成熟，他们可以在下一个，隔壁复制它。然后我们会看到一个巨大
的举动。你让两个灵魂彼此互动。

Then it comes what happened when we had these two systems in a very advanced
Cosmic level interacting. It'll be an amazing time on its way. How you people feel on
Sunday, it will be amazing. And what you don't feel, is just that you haven't understood
the connection. And we know the system works because we monitor it, we see it.
然后，当我们让这两个系统在一个非常先进的宇宙水平上相互作用时，发生了什么。这将
是一段美妙的时光。你们周日的感觉会很棒。而你没有感觉到的，只是你还没有理解其中
的联系。我们知道这个系统是有效的，因为我们监控它，我们看到它。

Q: So come in with no expectation Mr. Keshe, and just allow. Yeah, just be present. (2:10).
问：所以进来的时候不要抱任何期望，凯什先生，只是允许。是啊，只要在场。( 2:
10).

K- No, it's not the expectation. Coming with the knowledge, it's different than coming
with no expectation. That was a game of the past, then you get surprised, and I become a
magician. Come in understanding what you're in, and what you can see, what you can
say. We don't tell you anything, there are a lot of things.
不，这不是期望。带着知识而来，这与没有期望而来是不同的。那是一个过去的游戏，然
后你得到惊喜，我成为一个魔术师。来吧，了解你在做什么，你能看到什么，你能说什
么。我们什么都不告诉你，有很多事情。

There's one thing which we will go to this, hopefully, if we can't do this time we will do it
in the coming time. Those of you who come in for Sunday dinner or lunch with the
Creator, you will be given a special access in a very short time, that you can come in all
the time to eat what you want. Those of you who come for Sunday lunch, you will be
invited for many lunches. We'll explain this very soon. This is part of that test we did on
the 19th of December. Those of you who came for the food section.
有一件事我们会去做，希望如果我们这次做不到，我们会在接下来的时间里去做。你们中
那些来与造物主共进周日晚餐或午餐的人，你们将在很短的时间内获得一个特殊的通道，
你可以随时来吃你想吃的东西。那些来吃周日午餐的人，你们会被邀请吃很多次午餐。我
们很快就会解释这一点。这是我们在 12 月 19 日做的测试的一部分。那些来食品区的人。
Now we leave this table of food open for those who come in. We explain to you how, and
where, and the way, that we allow you certain hours, certain times to come in and to eat
once a day. To see how many of you will change social behavior, how many of you will
change your physical behavior, how many of you will eat again. This 19th session is not
just as before, as I said, we will explain this in more detail on the 19th. But the
framework is, those of you who come on the 19th. Then you will be asked if you want to
come in for maybe a month, a week, a few days to eat on the table when you want.
现在我们把这桌食物留给进来的人。我们向你解释如何，在哪里，以什么方式，我们允许
你在特定的时间，特定的时间进来，每天吃一次。看看你们中有多少人会改变社会行为，
有多少人会改变身体行为，有多少人又会吃东西。这次 19 届不是像以前一样，就像我说
的，19 号我们会更详细地解释这一点。但框架是，你们中那些 19 号来的人。然后你会被
问到你是否愿意来，也许一个月，一个星期，或者几天，在你想吃的时候在桌子上吃。
(2:12).
( 2: 12).

We monitor, we know who comes in because we connect the system. Or we tell you, the
way nowadays on a Sunday at 6 and 12 you spray Gans around the world, you come
every Sunday for a few weeks to have lunch with the Creator, which is yourself.
我们监控，我们知道谁进来，因为我们连接了系统。或者我们告诉你，现在在星期天 6 点
和 12 点，你在世界各地喷洒甘斯，你在几个星期里每个星期天都来与造物主共进午餐，
也就是你自己。

Then see how your behavior changed to stop eating physically. Do you see social,
physical interaction differences? Would you see you have diseases that you don't have
anymore after a few weeks? It's part of the understanding. This is not just…We covered
with the sugar coating of having lunch with the Creator. But there's other things hiding
and sitting behind it.
然后看看你的行为如何改变，停止吃东西。你看到社交和身体互动的差异了吗？几周后，
你会发现自己患上了不再有的疾病吗？这是理解的一部分。这不仅仅是..我们披上了与造
物主共进午餐的糖衣。但还有其他东西藏在它后面。

Q: Mr. Keshe, you said about the emotion of eating, that can still cause you to have a
certain body change. So even by let's say, you reduce your intake a lot of the matter state
food, you can still have a certain body change through that through an emotion.
问：Keshe 先生，你说吃东西的情绪，仍然会导致你的身体发生一定的变化。所以即使你
减少了很多物质状态食物的摄入，你仍然可以通过情绪来改变身体。

K- Yes, as your Soul wants you to be there to create that persona. You're a young boy,
you are head on conflict with your dad. He knows all his, everything is blah, blah. You
have no connection with him, and the rest of the caboodle, as we call it. You become fat,
you become big. Why? Because it's a cockfight, isn't it? I was small, but I can blow
myself up. When you walk on street and you watch father and sons, the way they are, the
way physically shape, (2:14). you can tell a lot about the relationship. Physical
domination or psychological what you call it, superiority. And very few you see balance. With
both parents, not just one. Then you see in the boys and you see that in the girls. When I walk on
in a supermarket and shopping centers, for me it's a field day, of
understanding relationship, Soul interaction. This is what you see in the process of
emotion and physicality.
是的，因为你的灵魂希望你在那里创造那个角色。你是个小男孩，你正与你父亲发生冲
突。他知道他的一切，一切都是废话。你和他，以及我们所说的其他人，没有任何关系。
你变胖了，变大了。为什么？因为这是斗鸡，不是吗？我很小，但我可以把自己炸飞。当
你走在街上，你看着父亲和儿子，他们的方式，身体的形状，（2：14）。你可以说出很
多关于这段关系的事情。身体上的支配或者心理上的你所说的优越感。你很少能看到平
衡。父母都有，不只是一个。然后你在男孩身上看到，你在女孩身上看到。当我走在超市
和购物中心时，对我来说，这是理解关系、灵魂互动的一天。这就是你在情感和肉体的过
程中所看到的。

Q: Thank you Mr. Keshe. That's very interesting. So, another question, sorry to.
问：谢谢 Keshe 先生。那非常有趣。所以，另一个问题，抱歉。
K- You become worse than Jalal. One was enough.
你变得比贾拉尔还坏。一个就够了。

Q: I know, I'm sorry. So, you touched on the smell of Creator and how that you will give
your life for this. The reason I ask about this is because I had an experience with, I'm not
saying that I smelled the Creator, but I smelled something when I met a particular person
and I have a feeling it was connected to this.
问：我知道，对不起。所以，你触及了造物主的气味，以及你将如何为此付出生命。我问
这个问题的原因是因为我有过这样的经历，我不是说我闻到了造物主的味道，但当我遇到
一个特定的人时，我闻到了一些东西，我有一种感觉，它与此有关。
K- It's what I told you, that depends on your perception. You know, it's like when you
pass somebody and you say, oh, smell of church. You know, what they burn in the
church, that smell to cleanse, it's actually to put a stink on you, that when you go out, the
other say, "oh, I forgot to go to the church." It's not for the church to be cleansed. It's for
you to be called back. (2:16).
这是我告诉你的，这取决于你的看法。你知道，这就像当你经过某人时，你说，哦，教堂
的味道。你知道，他们在教堂里燃烧的东西，那种气味是为了净化，实际上是为了让你发
臭，当你出去的时候，另一个人会说，“哦，我忘了去教堂了。”教会不是用来净化的。
这是为了让你被召回。( 2: 16).

It's not the smell of the Creator? It's sweet, sweet with love and nothing else.
不是造物主的味道。它是甜蜜的，只有爱的甜蜜。
Q: Yeah, this has nothing to do with the church, this has nothing to do with the church.
问：是的，这与教会无关，这与教会无关。

K- I know, but what I'm saying is that the smell of the Creator is sweet, sweet with love. You feel
it ??.
我知道，但我要说的是造物主的味道是甜蜜的，甜蜜的爱。你感觉到了吗？

Q: Yeah, I sense that Mr. Keshe.

问：是的，我感觉到凯什先生。
K- Your 3 questions are over.
你的三个问题结束了。
Q: Thank you Mr. Keshe.
问：谢谢 Keshe 先生。

K- Any other questions?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. I've been thinking over the last week. The function now and you said we wanted to
talk about the Creation, yeah. The function of the black hole within the Universe, it seems
to me that they are also a source of the Cosmic waves. So, we have the central Sun and
we have the black holes. Is this the other dimension that you were talking about earlier? Is it that
as the fields come from the central Sun, and interact with the black holes,
(2:18). and the fields rub against each other in certain places on their way to us, that they
perform a vital function within the Cosmic waves, or Cosmic fields?
问：..上周我一直在思考。现在的功能，你说我们想谈谈创造，是的。黑洞在宇宙中的功
能，在我看来，它们也是宇宙波的一个来源。所以，我们有中央太阳和黑洞。这是你之前
说的另一个维度吗？是因为磁场来自中央太阳，并与黑洞相互作用（2：18）。这些场在
到达我们的途中，在某些地方相互摩擦，它们在宇宙波或宇宙场中发挥着至关重要的作
用。

K- I think if you read the paper "the Creation of Black Hole," where it started all my
problems in the world of present science. Where Stephen Hawkins's stole the paper. This
what you asked is explained in there very, very easily. Stephen Hawkins always came up
with what I call, the false basis, that the black holes are an eating machine. And on 8th of
July he changed his mind. When they published the paperwork of the Keshe Foundation
in his name.
我想如果你读过“黑洞的创造”这篇论文，它开始了我在当今科学世界中的所有问题。斯
蒂芬·霍金斯偷报纸的地方。你问的这个问题在那里很容易解释。斯蒂芬·霍金斯总是提
出我所说的，错误的基础，即黑洞是一个吃人的机器。7 月 8 日他改变了主意。当他们以
他的名义公布凯什基金会的文件时。

Where the black holes are the source of life. This is where the interaction of the Sun, I
think if you read the paper in original text, is that when a Sun hits a black hole, it radiates
fields, which comes back, and new fields are created. So, black holes, we call it black,
because they absorb everything. But they're one of the emitters of fields, of a different
strength. It's not what Stephen Hawkins promoted with his foolishness. It's what it is, it's
another interaction.
那里的黑洞是生命之源。这就是太阳相互作用的地方，我想如果你读过这篇论文的原文，
那就是当太阳撞上黑洞时，它会辐射场，辐射场又回来了，新的场就产生了。所以，黑
洞，我们称之为黑色，因为它们吸收一切。但它们是场的发射体之一，强度不同。这不是
斯蒂芬·霍金斯用他的愚蠢所宣扬的。它是什么，它是另一种互动。

Most of you made the Nano coating, you created a black hole. That's what it is. And
what's the purpose of, (2:20). What you call it, the black hole? It depends how you
interact with it. Your Nano black layer is one of the highest resistance, you cannot enter
it. But if you can enter it, you find inside it superconductivity, zero time frame. With
massive amount of energies.
你们中的大多数人制造了纳米涂层，你们创造了一个黑洞。就是这么回事。的目的是什
么，（2：20）。你管它叫什么，黑洞？这取决于你如何与它互动。你的纳米黑层是最高
电阻之一，你不能进入它。但如果你能进入它，你会发现它里面的超导，零时间框架。用
大量的能量。
We always think to enter the fields inside, outside to inside. What happen if we use this
inside, then that was going to be the future of the communication lines, and a lot of
microchips, is to give the information inside the black hole. That it travels super-speed
inside itself, and uses the outer layer as a shield for it not to lose. So, you create new
fields inside.
我们总是想着要进入里面的领域，从外面到里面。如果我们在里面使用这个，那将会发生
什么，那将是未来的通信线路，以及许多微芯片，将会给出黑洞内部的信息。它在体内以
极快的速度移动，并利用外层作为防护罩，使其不会丢失。所以，你在里面创建了新的字
段。
It's a different understanding it's a natural process. And it's a black hole. Because at
certain point, if you change the field strength absorption or ？? inside the Nano coated
wires you have, you start interacting, absorbing from outside in, and releasing energy
inside out. We know this because in the test we did, as I've said many times before in
Ghent University, bringing all the electrical systems on the table, all whatever we could. We saw
people put Nano wire coated, with copper wire on the table. And the professors
and the scientists with us put all the currents they could put through it. They said, we
don't have any more we can put.
这是一种不同的理解，这是一个自然的过程。它是一个黑洞。因为在某一点上，如果你改
变场强吸收或者？?在你拥有的纳米涂层电线内部，你开始相互作用，从外向内吸收，从
内向外释放能量。我们知道这一点，因为在测试中，正如我以前在根特大学多次说过的那
样，我们把所有的电气系统都摆在了桌面上，尽我们所能。我们看到人们把包有铜线的纳
米线放在桌子上。和我们在一起的教授和科学家们把他们能放的所有电流都放进去。他们
说，我们没有更多的东西可以放了。

What we saw, the wire held, it didn't break, it didn't melt. (2:22). But through Nano gaps
in certain positions, we could see liquid copper, like water swinging inside. And the
professors said, this is impossible, it's liquid inside, we can see it. But it doesn't leak,
because it's held by magnetic field of the outer layer of Nano layer. But Nano layer is
being in position, they create a position that he can see through. So, if he can see through,
they can leak the light we saw out as well.
我们看到的是，电线没有断，也没有融化。( 2: 22).但透过某些位置的纳米间隙，我们
可以看到液态铜，像水一样在里面摆动。教授们说，这是不可能的，里面是液体，我们可
以看到它。但它不会泄漏，因为它被纳米层外层的磁场所控制。但是纳米层在适当的位
置，他们创造了一个他可以看到的位置。所以，如果他能看穿，他们也能泄露我们看到的
光。

So, Nano layers, black holes are not that eating machine. Now we have, scientifically we
can show it. You all Knowledge Seekers, if you can get your hands on, put a wire in
between the clamp, and give it as much energy. You will see outside you're holding the
wire inside it's melting material. But you see the light, you see the liquid copper. Just
don't look at it, look at it, why do you see it. So if you can see it, and it's absorbing
energy. On other sides blacks in these holes is emitting light out.
所以，纳米层，黑洞并不是那种吃人的机器。现在我们有了，我们可以科学地展示它。你
们所有的知识追求者，如果你能得到你的手，在夹子之间放一根电线，并给它尽可能多的
能量。你会看到外面，你拿着里面的电线，里面是熔化的材料。但你看到了光，你看到了
液态铜。只是不看它，看它，为什么你看到它。所以如果你能看到它，它在吸收能量。在
另一边，这些洞里的黑色正在向外发光。

And in the future, if you can manage to do this and sit inside, and look from inside to
outside the tube, through the same holes, you'll see the fields which come in. And it can
decide the space gap of these that only absorbs Gamma rays, only absorbs vitamin C.
These are the future filters of the technology in Nano space.
在未来，如果你能设法做到这一点，坐在里面，从里面到外面看管道，通过同样的洞，你
会看到进来的领域。它可以决定这些只吸收伽马射线，只吸收维生素 C 的空间间隙。这些
是纳米空间技术的未来过滤器。
The space gap, you see the liquid copper, if you extend it to understand it, by
reorganizing in a specific configuration, can give you certain specific strength fields to
come through it. We use this now in certain part of the technology development. (2:24). We use
it clearly, and we see the benefit of it.
空间间隙，你看到的液态铜，如果你扩展它来理解它，通过在特定的配置中重组，可以给
你特定的强度场来通过它。我们现在在技术开发的某些部分使用这个。( 2: 24).我们清
楚地使用它，我们看到了它的好处。

There's a lot of knowledge we cannot explain. It's getting developed and then we can
explain to one or two Knowledge Seekers, then becomes the knowledge which stays
behind. But space wise technology, you don't consider black holes, it's what I call,
ridiculous point Hawkins made.
有很多知识我们无法解释。它得到了发展，然后我们可以向一两个知识寻求者解释，然后
成为留下来的知识。但是太空智慧技术，你不会考虑黑洞，这就是我所说的，霍金斯提出
的荒谬观点。

Q: I understand what you're saying. They're not eating machines.

问：我明白你在说什么。他们不是吃东西的机器。
K- But the interaction with them, it has the same benefits of reflection. So in some points
you get absorbed, in some strength you go through, in some strengths you get blocked,
which you reflect back out. And this is the basis of the paper, which I told you to read. This is
explained, this is the first paper we ever published in 2004.
但是与他们的互动，它有同样的反思的好处。所以在一些点上你被吸收了，在一些力量上
你通过了，在一些力量上你被阻挡了，你反射回来了。这就是我让你们阅读的论文的基
础。这是我们在 2004 年发表的第一篇论文。

Q: It's actually an amazing understanding Mr. Keshe. Because the interaction of the
central Sun, and the black holes. I don't know how, but they somehow interact with each
other on another level. But it's just like, the pictures on your books where you've got the
two balls and the two sides, it's the same thing. It's the interaction between two different
fields, (2:26). that allows the existence of a single entity which comes to us, but it's not
in one sided, it's in both sided. And when we learn to be able to decode this, and allow us
to create fields that interact with both sides of that. We will understand much, much
more. And I thank you very much. It's been a wonderful week in my learning, thank you.
问：这实际上是一种惊人的理解，凯什先生。因为中央太阳和黑洞的相互作用。我不知道
是怎么回事，但它们在另一个层面上相互影响。但这就像你书上的图片一样，你有两个球
和两边，这是一回事。这是两个不同领域之间的互动，（2：26）。这允许一个单一实体
的存在，但它不是单面的，而是双面的。当我们学会能够解码这个，并允许我们创造与它
的两边相互作用的场。我们会了解更多更多。我非常感谢你。这是我学习中美好的一周，
谢谢。

K- Thank you very much. This situation with existing life, or material, or systems within
a black hole. If you ever can get, I'm sure Knowledge Seekers, some of you have access
to it, you can find it. You see it as something, but as developers of these kinds of
technologies, we look at different aspects of application and the implication.
非常感谢。这种情况与现有的生命，或物质，或黑洞内的系统。如果你能得到，我相信知
识追求者，你们中的一些人可以接触到它，你可以找到它。你把它看作是某种东西，但作
为这类技术的开发者，我们着眼于应用程序的不同方面和含义。

In the January, what I call, mayhem a few years ago, when the Iranian defense literally
wiped out the most advanced bases in Iraq of Americans. The Americans won't show you
this video, but the Russians took it through their satellite, you can find it on the Internet. Usually
when you see missiles or rockets going to a position, you see the rocket, you see
the missile. The Russian satellites which have videoed, recorded the onslaught wiping of
one of the most advanced bases in Iraq of the Americans allies center, (2:28). which they
said they had some people having earache, because those who had an earache, they were
11, god knows, 12 meters below the ground, the ones on the side didn't even had a
chance to hear it, because they're not there to tell us. When you watch this missiles,
they're black, black, black. You only see a black bracket moving. So, the technology with
it, is absorbing all the fields, that's why they can't hit it with a rocket. Because the rocket,
an anti-missile has to receive to feed back. They don't trigger, because they absorb all the
radars.
在几年前的一月份，我称之为“混乱”，当时伊朗的防御部队几乎摧毁了美国在伊拉克最
先进的基地。美国人不会给你看这个视频，但俄罗斯人通过他们的卫星拍摄了它，你可以
在互联网上找到它。通常当你看到导弹或火箭到达一个位置时，你看到的是火箭，你看到
的是导弹。俄罗斯卫星拍摄了视频，记录了美国盟军中心在伊拉克最先进的基地之一被摧
毁的情况（2：28）。他们说有些人耳朵疼，因为那些耳朵疼的人，他们 11 岁，天知道，
在地下 12 米处，在旁边的人甚至没有机会听到它，因为他们不在那里告诉我们。当你看
这些导弹的时候，它们是黑色的，黑色的，黑色的。你只看到一个黑色的支架在移动。所
以，它的技术，正在吸收所有的领域，这就是为什么他们不能用火箭击中它。因为火箭，
反导弹必须接收反馈。它们不会触发，因为它们会吸收所有的雷达。

So we see this black, it's not on the body of it, it's the field around it. But the interesting
thing is what I told you, we give the energy from inside what will happen. But the system
inside are still working, that missile is targeted, it doesn't miss with a meter, with a
pinpoint accuracy. You hear a news, we analyze the use of technology in that news. So,
when you create this, what you call, black shields, magnetic fields, inside doesn't matter. Because
you preset the condition for the use.
所以我们看到这个黑色，它不是在它的身体上，而是在它周围的领域。但有趣的是，正如
我告诉你的，我们从内部给予能量，将会发生什么。但里面的系统仍在工作，导弹是有目
标的，它不会错过一米，以精确的精度。你听到一条新闻，我们分析一下这条新闻中技术
的使用。所以，当你创造这个的时候，你所说的黑盾，磁场，在里面并不重要。因为你预
设了使用的条件。

This is how the future space technology will be. Those of you who want to travel with
UFOs or flying objects, than through the Soul. You can create a black energy fields
strong enough to allow you vertical take-off through the atmosphere, through the
boundaries of this planet. But inside nothing happens. We saw this when I saw, when I
was provided a video by the Russian intelligence. (2:30). I just said, this is amazing
space technology. I don't look at it as a defense, I look at it, how we can use this
这就是未来的太空技术。你们中那些想要与不明飞行物或飞行物一起旅行的人，而不
是通过灵魂。你可以创造一个足够强大的黑色能量场，让你垂直起飞，穿过大气层，
穿过这个星球的边界。但里面什么都没发生。当俄罗斯情报部门向我提供一段视频
时，我们看到了这一点。( 2: 30).我只是说，这是惊人的太空技术。我不认为这是一
种辩护，我认为，我们如何利用这一点
technology in the space travel, in the matter state. Black outside. Go on the Internet,
you'll see it. You see black dots just come in, and black dots one after another. The new
satellites see it as a black hole in movement, but inside it's fully computerized, knows the
target, goes exactly where it's got to go.
科技在太空旅行，在物质状态。外面是黑色的。上网，你会看到的。你看黑点就这么进来
了，黑点一个接一个。新的卫星将其视为一个移动的黑洞，但其内部是完全计算机化的，
知道目标，准确地到达它要去的地方。

This is what the next generation of the space technology in the matter state will be. We
have not abandoned travel with systems. We have moved with the option of through
energy fields, through the Soul. Those of you who want to travel with the energy systems
you have enough. I've given you enough technology to do. To travel with your UFO's
you have all the magnetic shields, the creation of black holes around your system, full
intelligence life inside.
这就是物质状态下的下一代空间技术。我们没有放弃系统旅行。我们已经通过能量场，通
过灵魂的选择而移动。你们中那些想带着能量系统旅行的人，你们已经足够了。我已经给
了你足够的技术去做。和你的不明飞行物一起旅行，你有所有的磁屏蔽，在你的系统周围
创造黑洞，里面有完整的智慧生命。

Then we don't see, we don't hear any noise when these things travel. We don't see any
light. There is no sound barrier, even though they travel faster than the speed of sound. When
President Trump said, we are not going to do nothing with Iran for what they did in
Iraq. Because he can't do anything. You don't even have the knowledge, you don't even
understand that knowledge. (2:32). Ignorance is a bliss And this bliss says, to the world
leaders. The reality hasn't changed.
当这些东西移动时，我们看不见，也听不到任何噪音。我们看不到任何光。即使它们的传
播速度超过音速，也没有音障。当特朗普总统说，我们不会对伊朗在伊拉克的所作所为无
动于衷。因为他什么都做不了。你甚至没有知识，你甚至不理解那些知识。( 2: 32).无
知是一种幸福，这种幸福对世界领导人说。现实并没有改变。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. Good morning Mr. Keshe. I understand a few months ago the United States has been
testing those very strong laser beams, and they managed to shoot at an extraterrestrial
ship with multiple beams. And they affected it, but they didn't manage to go through the
shield those ships have. They're trying to catch up with a bit of this technology,
apparently.
问：..早上好，凯什先生。据我所知，几个月前，美国一直在测试那些非常强的激光束，
他们成功地用多个光束射击了一艘外星飞船。他们影响了它，但他们没能穿过那些船的护
盾。显然，他们正在努力追赶这种技术。

K- Depends where the ships came from. Was it another air balloon with…
取决于船是从哪里来的。是另一个气球吗？
Q: No. Those ships are the ones that are watching out for us from outside. They were 480
kilometers up above, and they had to retire to 490,000 kilometers away to repair the
damages. (2:34).
问：不。那些船是在外面监视我们的。他们在 480 公里以上，他们不得不撤退到 49 万公
里以外的地方去修复损坏。( 2: 34).

K- I'm not a passenger in it, I don't know about these things. But I hope it's not like what
we hear with the air balloons over United States.
我不是它的乘客，我不知道这些事情。但我希望这不会像我们听到的美国上空的气球一
样。

Q: Yeah, that's a smoke screen, hot air balloons. Why don't they mention when Iran
brought down the drone. They've forgotten about that.
问：是的，那是烟幕，热气球。为什么他们不提伊朗击落无人机的时间。他们已经忘了这
一点。

K- No, they haven't forgotten, they're trying to learn. The process is…You know, when
you speak about these things. The Americans would like to hype up a lot of things, yeah. You
know, they say, what they say about the man with an expensive sports car. Compensating one for
the other. This is what the Americans would like to make it to be.
不，他们没有忘记，他们在努力学习。过程是.你知道，当你谈论这些事情的时候。美国
人喜欢炒作很多东西，是的。你知道，他们说，他们说的是一个拥有昂贵跑车的人。一个
补偿另一个。这就是美国人想要的。

The process, the understanding, the intelligence is not there. There's a lot of intelligence
in the Russian Space people. The Americans are just, what I call, "fur coats and no
knickers," as we call it. They make a lot of it but they don't. I mean, when you allow an
object to appear in the middle of your country, and then you get to know it. I wonder
what the Chinese did. Why they manifested. Or, it's just to tell them, we can come
wherever we like. We see them in two or three different places, in Central America,
apparently, and in the central US. There's more into it than an air balloon game.
过程，理解，智慧都不存在。俄罗斯太空人有很多智慧。美国人就是我所说的“毛皮大
衣，没有短裤”，就像我们说的那样。他们做了很多，但他们没有。我的意思是，当你允
许一个物体出现在你的国家的中部，然后你开始了解它。我想知道中国人做了什么。他们
为什么显化。或者，这只是为了告诉他们，我们可以来任何我们喜欢的地方。我们在两三
个不同的地方看到它们，显然是在中美洲和美国中部。这不仅仅是一场气球游戏。

The situation is very, very different, (2:36). in reality, what it is and what's behind it. When I
heard about this trying to shoot, or they shutdown something on there in the
United States, and everything else. It brought back the memory of the nineteen fifties
when the Americans sent the wire to the Russians in a matchbox, as you know. And after
a few months they received it. And they wrote to the Russians, oh, there was a wire
inside, you didn't see it. Because they could create such a fine wire. The Russians they
said, look inside, we made a hole in your wire. So we are more advanced than you are. It's
understanding. That was the beginning of the laser war, when they started to create
more finer laser beams.
情况非常非常不同（2：36）。在现实中，它是什么，它背后是什么。当我听说这件事
时，我试图拍摄，或者他们在美国关闭了一些东西，以及其他一切。它带回了 20 世纪 50
年代的记忆，当时美国人把电线装在火柴盒里寄给了俄国人，正如你所知道的。几个月后
他们收到了。他们写信给俄罗斯人，哦，里面有一根电线，你没有看到。因为他们可以制
造出这么细的电线。俄罗斯人说，看看里面，我们在你的电线上打了个洞。所以我们比你
们先进。是理解。这就是激光战争的开始，那时他们开始制造更精细的激光束。

Q: Before they went into the war, I think it was in Los Angeles, when all those lights
appeared and they started shooting at those lights.
问：在他们参战之前，我想是在洛杉矶，当所有的灯光出现时，他们开始向那些灯光射
击。

K- Yeah, but it depends who created the light. .. Ourselves to show we have something,
but we say, we don't know where it comes from. It's very interesting. I'm watching this
balloon game with the Russians and Chinese, it's very, very interesting. What I call it,
with the Chinese and the Americans. Very, very interesting.
是的，但这取决于谁创造了光。..我们自己来展示我们拥有的东西，但我们说，我们不知
道它从何而来。它非常有趣。我正在观看俄罗斯人和中国人的气球比赛，非常非常有趣。
我所说的，中国人和美国人。非常非常有趣。

Q: The Chinese sent those balloons?

问：中国人送的那些气球？

K- The point is to ask, how did you manage to get it before they detected?
关键是要问，你是怎么在他们发现之前得到它的？

Q: Exactly, yeah.

问：完全正确，是的。

K- That's the game, that's the name of the game.

这就是游戏，这就是游戏的名字。

Q: What are all those satellites were doing up there? Watching whom and what? K- A black hole,

isn't it?

问：那些卫星在上面做什么？监视谁和什么？一个黑洞，不是吗？
But how can you allow such a thing appear over your nation. What about if it was
carrying a dirty bomb, what about if it was carrying a nuclear bomb? You're going to
explode it, you don't know what's inside it? (2:38). And what was one yesterday or the
day before. One of them was ？? supposed to ？? happened to be a private plane.
但你怎么能允许这样的事情出现在你的国家。如果它携带的是脏弹呢，如果它携带的是核
弹呢？你要引爆它，你不知道里面是什么？( 2: 38).昨天或前天是什么。其中一个是？?
应该吗？?碰巧是一架私人飞机。

It's understanding and application. As we boost our systems, and edges, and
transmutation. It is very interesting, as I said, now we are testing step by step. Improving,
testing, developing step by step, week by week. Yesterday flight test was very interesting
The Knowledge Seekers were going through it, they're on the line listening to this. You
have to open your eyes to see exactly why you're still in one place or the other. Because
in reality you are there. You're so visual. Then you try to see, ？? the next time through
your eye or through your Soul. Then you don't need to ？? find out, if you're in one place
or the other, because you arrive through the Soul. It needs education, it needs
understanding, it needs realization of the position, time, and space and energy. We're
getting there.
是理解和应用。当我们提升我们的系统，边缘和嬗变。这非常有趣，正如我所说，现在我
们正在一步一步地测试。一步一步、一周一周地改进、测试、开发。昨天的飞行测试非常
有趣，知识寻求者正在经历它，他们在线上听这个。你必须睁开眼睛才能明白为什么你还
在这个或那个地方。因为现实中你就在那里。你太直观了。那你试着看看，？?下一次通
过你的眼睛或你的灵魂。那你就不需要了？?找出你是在一个地方还是另一个地方，因为
你是通过灵魂到达的。它需要教育，它需要理解，它需要对位置、时间、空间和能量的认
识。我们快到了。

Q: Yeah. Slowly but surely.

问：是啊。缓慢但坚定地。

K- As long as we are off CNN we are very good. When we come to CNN, comes, what
you call it, a show on the road, which we (don't want)...
只要我们离开 CNN，我们就很好。当我们来到 CNN 的时候，就像你所说的那样，这是一场
我们（不想要）的巡回演出……

Q: They've closed their main office already, CNN.

问：他们已经关闭了他们的主要办公室，CNN.

K- What happened?
发生什么事了？

Q: Or they're going bankrupt, or something or other. But they've closed their main office. (2:40).
问：或者他们要破产了，或者别的什么。但他们已经关闭了他们的主要办公室。( 2:
40).

K- Oh, bad for some of those people who were around Keshe Foundation. They said,
when it comes on CNN then we believe it. So CNN is not. So they will never believe in
anything, soon.
哦，对 Keshe 基金会周围的一些人来说很糟糕。他们说，当它出现在 CNN 上时，我们就会
相信它。所以 CNN 不是。所以他们永远不会相信任何东西，很快。

Q: It'll have to be Fox.

问：必须是福克斯。

K- They're already foxed, anyway.

不管怎样，他们已经被愚弄了。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. Can one use graphite rod to make a quality CH3 Gans?

问：..是否可以使用石墨棒来制作高质量的 CH3GANS？

K- It depends. Many Knowledge Seekers have tried different approaches to it.

K-看情况。许多知识寻求者尝试了不同的方法。
Q: .. Plasma reactors made of ping pong balls containing CH3, CO2 and amino acid,
what is their health benefits? I would like to make it for sick people in Nigeria, I am a
medical physicist.
问：..用含有甲烷、二氧化碳和氨基酸的乒乓球制成的等离子反应器，对健康有什么好
处？我想为尼日利亚的病人制作它，我是一名医学物理学家。

K- You have to understand what part of the health, what you call it, you want to apply it
for. As I said, the knowledge, you have to understand it. If you put such a thing near a
cancer patient, you might most probably speed up the growth of cancer. If you put it next
to somebody else with another condition you create different dimensions. (2:42). It's you
have to understand what it's for, and what are you doing and the way you do it.
你必须了解健康的哪一部分，你把它叫做什么，你想把它用在什么地方。正如我所说，知
识，你必须了解它。如果你把这样的东西放在癌症患者附近，你很可能会加速癌症的生
长。如果你把它放在另一个条件下的人旁边，你就创造了不同的维度。( 2: 42).你必须
明白它是用来做什么的，你在做什么，以及你做的方式。

R: And that's probably not something that we can transfer over on YouTube. Or in a
workshop like this.
R：这可能不是我们可以在 YouTube 上传输的东西。或者在这样的车间里。
K- No, it's just .…
不，只是..
R: It's a medical teaching .. .
R：这是医学教学..
K- They are medical doctors asking the question. So, they have to understand how to
apply these technologies accordingly.
他们是问问题的医生。因此，他们必须了解如何相应地应用这些技术。

Keshe Foundation in the past couple of weeks has sent hundreds of emails to the doctors
who wanted to join the Keshe Foundation or be part of it. If you applied for becoming or
getting involved with Keshe Foundation work, for past 2 - 3 years. Look into your junk
box, and see what's in your junk (Spam) box. If you don't see an email from Keshe
Foundation reply. We are setting up, I think it's about two or two weeks for these ??.
在过去的几周里，Keshe 基金会已经向希望加入 Keshe 基金会或成为其中一员的医生发送
了数百封电子邮件。如果你申请成为或参与 KESHE 基金会的工作，在过去的 2-3 年。看看
你的垃圾盒，看看你的垃圾（垃圾邮件）盒里有什么。如果您没有看到来自 Keshe 基金会
的电子邮件，请回复。我们正在准备，我想大约需要两到两周的时间。
After two or three years, we responded to all the doctors, medical people who wanted to
join the Keshe Foundation, what you call it, in the wellness. And to be trained or to be
told what it is, that they learn on the job.
两三年后，我们回应了所有想要加入 Keshe 基金会的医生和医务人员，你们称之为健康。
接受培训或被告知他们在工作中学到的东西。

We are in envisaging, and we are working on training new doctors, fresh doctors out of
the medical schools, to offer courses, and train them in the use of the plasma technology. As,
what you call it, (2:44). as an alternative system, as we have the license for, to be, we
show them, they can use the facilities, the knowledge and new systems.
我们正在设想，我们正在努力培训新的医生，从医学院毕业的新医生，提供课程，并培训
他们使用等离子技术。就像你所说的那样（2：44）。作为一个替代系统，因为我们有许
可证，我们向他们展示，他们可以使用设施，知识和新系统。

You can't teach it to a present doctors, some of them, it's impossible. So, the best thing is
to train. Because at the moment, the way we see it, you don't need that many medical
doctors to run the Wellness Centers. It's becoming a systematic allocation, understanding
and reversal of the old knowledge to the new. This will come, in a very short time. We
already have started training medical doctors, medical people in this way. It comes by
being on it, seeing the result, then understanding it, and moving to the next step.
你不能把它教给现在的医生，他们中的一些，这是不可能的。所以，最好的事情就是训
练。因为目前，在我们看来，你不需要那么多医生来经营健康中心。它正在成为一种系统
的分配、理解和将旧知识转换为新知识。这将在很短的时间内到来。我们已经开始以这种
方式培训医生和医务人员。它来自于在它上面，看到结果，然后理解它，然后进入下一
步。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. My house has two power panels, one for the house and the other for the geothermal
heating unit. Is it possible to get a PDF (file) showing the hookup for the Compact
Plasma Enhancement Unit before I buy it, to make sure it's going to be able to be hooked
up? Thank you. (2:46).
问：..我的房子有两个配电板，一个用于房子，另一个用于地热供暖装置。在我购买紧凑
型等离子增强单元之前，是否可以获得显示其连接的 PDF（文件），以确保它能够连接？
谢谢。( 2: 46).

K- We have tested solar power plants in a large scale in Italy with the original MaGravs. You
have to understand, as we talked earlier on, that you feed back as much as you feed
in. How your system is going to interact with the plasma fields. And how you can divert
these plasma fields in reaching what you call it, solar cells. It goes through your
converters, your inverters, it starts producing more energy than actually comes from your
solar cells. Then your inverters become converter. We've seen all this.
我们已经在意大利用原始的磁引力场测试了大规模的太阳能发电厂。你必须明白，正如我
们之前所谈到的，你的反馈和你的反馈一样多。你的系统将如何与等离子体场相互作用。
以及如何将这些等离子体场转移到你所说的太阳能电池。它通过你的转换器，你的逆变
器，它开始产生比你的太阳能电池更多的能量。那么你的逆变器就变成了转换器。我们已
经看到了这一切。

So, you have to devise a way from the fields to get into your inverters, and you can use it
successfully. We have developed this technology, but we don't disperse it, we don't go
with it. Because we use it extensively ourselves in our system connections. As part of the
technology which we've developed. By time, by understanding the problem, and the
problem which a lot of people don't understand.
所以，你必须设计一种方法，从现场进入你的逆变器，你可以成功地使用它。我们已经开
发了这项技术，但我们没有分散它，我们没有与它同行。因为我们自己在系统连接中广泛
使用它。作为我们开发的技术的一部分。通过时间，通过理解问题，以及很多人不理解的
问题。
In 2005 - 6 - 7, when I used to do all the research in the lab, many of these power
generators, oscilloscopes were failing after a few days, a few weeks. And I used to take
them back to the shop where I bought them, it doesn't work. Then they take it, they don't
understand what happened. And after two or three times they wanted to know, why you
keep on taking it back? (2:48). And I realized that I'm producing too much plasma
power, which goes into the system. Then I developed the technology for it. I saved my
systems from ever burning out or getting damaged with the plasma fields.
在 2005-6-7，当我在实验室里做所有的研究时，许多这样的发电机，示波器在几天，几周后
就坏了。我过去常常把它们带回我买它们的商店，它不起作用。然后他们拿着它，他们不明
白发生了什么。两三次之后，他们想知道，你为什么一直把它拿回去？( 2: 48).我意识到
我产生了太多的等离子能量，这些能量进入了系统。然后我为它开发了技术。我挽救了我的
系统，使其免于烧坏或被等离子场损坏。

Many of you, you work with plasma Cosmic Rays, or whatever. You will find out many
of your credit cards run into problems. It was magnetic fields, now plasma fields are
worse. When you work very close with some strength field of plasma your credit cards all
get jammed up. It's very much like a mobile phone next to your card sometimes, if the
fields are of the strength, you find out they connect different, and then you go to an ATM
and you put the card in, you reset it, you pick it up. But with the plasma the resetting
doesn't work. This is how I know. ？? somewhere is plasma fields (involved). So in the
future, even in a chips we use for the credit cards, they have to build this protection.
你们中的许多人，你们的工作与等离子体，宇宙射线，或其他东西有关。你会发现你的许多
信用卡遇到了问题。是磁场，现在等离子体场更糟。当你在很近的距离工作时，你的信用卡
都被卡住了。这很像你的卡旁边的一部手机，有时，如果磁场强度很大，你会发现它们的连
接方式不同，然后你去自动取款机，把卡放进去，重新设置它，然后把它捡起来。但有了等
离子体，重置就不起作用了。我就是这么知道的。？?某处是等离子体场（涉及）。所以在
未来，即使在我们用于信用卡的芯片中，他们也必须建立这种保护。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. Who or what created the Creator?

问：..谁或什么创造了造物主？

K- Partially we answered that in the teaching of today, (2:50). and the rest of it we prefer
not to get involved in. Because then you have a problem with clergies, and the Vatican's,
and the Mullahs. You will see, the biggest problem as I said before, the opposition to the
Keshe Foundation will come from the clergy. Because they have to close shop, there shop
does not sell any more interest.
我们在今天的教导中部分地回答了这个问题（2：50）。剩下的部分我们不想参与。因为你
对神职人员、梵蒂冈和毛拉有意见。你会看到，正如我之前所说，最大的问题是，反对凯舍
基金会的人将来自神职人员。因为他们不得不关闭商店，那里的商店不再出售任何利息。

I had a beautiful experience very recently with an Orthodox Christian where, he used the
Gans technology when he needed it, because of Corona. Then he works in the church,
and then when it came to understanding of the philosophy, understanding of the Soul and
everything else, he said, this is antichrist, they said when the Antichrist comes he'll bring
these things with him. Unfortunately, he eats on the same table as me sometimes. And I
tease him, I said, be careful with crossing the church, you're eating with the Antichrist
according to you.
我最近和一位东正教基督徒有过一次美好的经历，他在需要的时候使用了甘斯技术，因为科
罗娜。然后他在教堂工作，然后当涉及到对哲学的理解，对灵魂和其他一切的理解时，他
说，这是反基督者，他们说当反基督者到来时，他会带来这些东西。不幸的是，他有时和我
在同一张桌子上吃饭。我取笑他，我说，穿过教堂要小心，根据你的说法，你是在和反基督
者一起吃饭。

Because we enlighten. People understand, you cannot fool them anymore. So, the
philosophy and theology is through the window, because you can access it yourself.
因为我们启发。人们明白，你不能再愚弄他们了。所以，哲学和神学是通过窗口，因为你可
以自己访问它。
When they see the problem, then you become Antichrist, because the problem is not you,
it's them, they cannot fool you anymore. (2:52). The biggest resistance will come from
Ayatollahs, and Pope, and the rest of it to rise, what you call, popular opposition. But in a
way, it won't work. Did it work putting Jesus on the cross? It gets worse, because this one
has no place, no dimension except inside your own Soul, inside you. You've got to
question it?
当他们看到问题时，你就变成了反基督的人，因为问题不是你，而是他们，他们再也不能愚
弄你了。( 2: 52).最大的阻力将来自阿亚图拉和教皇，以及其他人的崛起，你所说的，民
众的反对。但在某种程度上，这是行不通的。把耶稣钉在十字架上有用吗？它变得更糟，因
为这个没有位置，没有维度，除了在你自己的灵魂里，在你的内心。你一定要质疑吗？

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？
Q: .. If flowing water is present in the close proximity to the process of Nano coating
plates, will they mean flow direction of the energy paths, align with the ？? flow direction
of the water in the Nano?
问：..如果流动的水出现在纳米涂层板附近的过程中，它们是否意味着能量路径的流动方
向与？?纳米中水的流向？

K- Yes, it does. Because the water itself is made of plasma of different sorts and different
mixture of materials in it. Even distilled water will do that. You try to make, not only the
flow, you try to make Nano coating with the distilled water, and try to make Nano
coating with the tap water. You see the difference. You feel the energy difference.
是的，它是。因为水本身是由不同种类的等离子体和不同的混合材料组成的。即使是蒸馏
水也能做到。你试着制造，不仅仅是流动，你试着用蒸馏水制造纳米涂层，试着用自来水
制造纳米涂层。你看到区别了。你感觉到能量的差异。

Your distilled water is layers very mono energetic, (2:54). they totally develop in a
different way, than with the tap water. And the water in your Gans and Nano production
is dynamic. So it creates its own flow, as we've seen it. It doesn't need to be a running
water next to it. Inside it is dynamic, and it does that, and it makes a lot of difference.
你的蒸馏水是层非常单一的能量，（2：54）。与自来水相比，它们的生长方式完全不
同。你的甘斯和纳米生产中的水是动态的。所以它创造了自己的流动，正如我们所看到
的。它旁边不需要有流水。它的内部是动态的，它做到了这一点，它带来了很大的不同。

When you're make a Nano layer using a tap water in England, and you make a Nano layer
in Australia, and somewhere in the remote places, with no contamination, it's totally
different effects. And your Gans's will be different energy position as well. Make your
CO2 with distilled water and make CO2 with the tap water, and look at the colors. In the
tap water all the fluoride, god knows, calcium, whatever they put in it is in there. But that
has an effect on the CO2 you make, in the energy absorption and emission.
当你在英国用自来水制作纳米层时，你在澳大利亚制作纳米层，在偏远的地方，没有污
染，这是完全不同的效果。你的甘斯也将是不同的能量位置。用蒸馏水制造二氧化碳，用
自来水制造二氧化碳，看看颜色。在自来水中，所有的氟化物，上帝知道，钙，不管他们
放进去的是什么，都在那里。但这对你产生的二氧化碳有影响，在能量吸收和排放方面。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. How can my university in Nigeria partner with the Keshe Foundation to train and
use plasma in processing diseases?
问：..我在尼日利亚的大学如何与 Keshe 基金会合作，培训和使用血浆处理疾病？
K- Can you repeat that again?
你能再重复一遍吗？
Q: How can my university in Nigeria partner with the Keshe Foundation to train and use
plasma in processing diseases?
问：我在尼日利亚的大学如何与 Keshe 基金会合作，培训和使用血浆处理疾病？

K- You have the most beautiful Knowledge Seeker, (2:56). one of the top guys in Keshe
Foundation in Nigeria. Talk to him, Alekz is sitting there. He is the most beautiful Soul
and knowledgeable, what you call it, Keshe Foundation members in your country.
你有最美丽的求知者，（2：56）。尼日利亚 Keshe 基金会的顶尖人物之一。和他说话，阿
列克兹坐在那里。他是你们国家最美丽的灵魂和最博学的人，也就是你们所说的 Keshe 基
金会成员。
Contact him or get in touch with us we'll put you in touch with him, and arrange for him
to teach in the University and develop. He will show magics. He will baffle your, what
you call it, your professors. If you don't know him, if you don't have access to him, get in
touch with the Keshe Foundation and we give you access to him. He's sitting with you,
he built a center, he built a swimming pool and everything else.
联系他或联系我们，我们会帮你联系他，并安排他在大学任教和发展。他会展示魔法。他
会难倒你们，你们所谓的，你们的教授。如果你不认识他，如果你无法接触到他，请与
Keshe 基金会联系，我们会让你接触到他。他和你坐在一起，他建了一个中心，他建了一
个游泳池和其他一切。

He is one of the best we have and a beautiful Soul. And he is sitting in Nigeria.
他是我们最好的球员之一，有着美丽的灵魂。他坐在尼日利亚。

R: Could they use the info@keshe.foundation? to get in touch

R：他们可以使用 info@keshe.foundation 吗？取得联系

K- Yes. The knowledge Alekz carry is unbelievable. And he's a member of the Universal
Council for Africa, sorry, Earth Council for Africa.
K-是的。阿列克兹所掌握的知识令人难以置信。他是非洲世界理事会的成员，对不起，非
洲地球理事会。
Q: .. Can I get a curriculum in plasma science from the Keshe Foundation. My University
in Nigeria is interested in introducing a degree program in new plasma science. I have
been asked to develop a curriculum. (2:58).
问：..我能从 Keshe 基金会获得等离子体科学课程吗？我在尼日利亚的大学有兴趣引进一个
新的等离子体科学的学位课程。我被要求开发一个课程。( 2: 58).

K- You need to speak to Emanuel in the education, and Dr. Gatwa in Kenya, and Jim and
Lisa in Australia. There is a lot of documents. I know Dr. Gatwa has a lot of work, and
Emmanuel used to teach in college the technology. There's a curriculum. It was set up,
started going with the lady from Greece educational groups. Yes, there is ？? plenty. Get
in touch with info, we support you, we have a way to do. You have one of the…If you
give a degree as a professor to Alekz in your University he will be there, he will baffle
the whole thing. He will do everything for you. If you can do that he is there. He can do
things that they will see him as magician.
你需要和教育部门的伊曼纽尔，肯尼亚的加特瓦博士，澳大利亚的吉姆和丽莎谈谈。有很多
文件。我知道加特瓦博士有很多工作要做，伊曼纽尔曾在大学里教过这项技术。有课程。它
成立了，开始与来自希腊教育团体的女士合作。是的，有。?很多。与 INFO 取得联系，我们
支持你，我们有办法做到。你有一个…如果你在你的大学里给阿列克兹一个教授学位，他会
在那里，他会把整个事情搞砸。他会为你做一切。如果你能做到，他就在那里。他可以做一
些事情，他们会把他看作是魔术师。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

If you send something for info@keshe.foundation, just put on it Alekz I'll ask it to be
monitored when it comes in. We can pick it up and then we'll put you in touch with
Emanuel and the rest to do a proper programming in Nigeria. (3:00).
如果你要 info@keshe.foundation 的东西，就把它放上去，阿列克兹，我会要求在它进来的
时候进行监控。我们可以拿起它，然后我们会让你与伊曼纽尔和其他人联系，在尼日利亚做
一个适当的节目。( 3: 00).
Q: .. Mr. Keshe, I do have a question which is general. I'm sure you have heard from this
terrible accident in the United States, chemical accident. Is there anything we the
Knowledge Seekers or Keshe Foundation America can do, because as I've heard, this will
touch more than 30 million people presently. And later on even more, because it goes
into the water, and the water will be contaminated, which will affect the whole
Mississippi river and surroundings.
问：..Keshe 先生，我确实有一个一般性的问题。我相信你已经听说了发生在美国的这起可
怕的化学事故。我们这些知识追求者或美国 Keshe 基金会能做些什么吗？因为我听说，目前
这将影响到 3000 多万人。后来甚至更多，因为它进入水中，水将被污染，这将影响整个密
西西比河和周围环境。

K- Am I correct? You're talking about this tanker which turned over, are we talking about
that one?
我说的对吗？你说的是这艘翻了的油轮，我们说的是那艘吗？

Q: A train, which derailed.

问：一辆脱轨的火车。

K- I haven't heard about that, I can't make any comment.

我没有听说过，我不能做任何评论。

Q: Maybe your could inform yourself. And next time you are with us, tell us if there is
anything we the Knowledge Seekers can do. Because it's going to affect millions of
Americans. And already there lots of deer, and fish and birds dying and people are
turning to sicknesses, which they never had before. And all of that, in only 10 days.
问：也许你可以告诉你自己。下次你和我们在一起的时候，告诉我们我们这些知识追求者能
做些什么。因为这将影响数百万美国人。那里已经有很多鹿、鱼和鸟死亡，人们开始生病，
这是以前从未有过的。所有这一切，在短短 10 天内。

K- When does this happened?

这是什么时候发生的？

Q: I think it happened on this about 10 days ago, (3:02). because there was no
information through the media. And it only came really to the knowledge of also the
American people over the last weekend. Because ...
问：我想这件事发生在大约 10 天前（3：02）。因为没有通过媒体的信息。直到上周末，美
国人民才真正了解到这一点。因为..

K- I haven't heard of it.

我没听说过。
Q: Maybe Rick could forward to you some of the information of this cloud, which
formed and the water contamination, which is sort of now general knowledge in America
since Monday. Because it is going to be an absolute devastating thing for America. And
government, Mr. Biden and Mr. ?? have done absolutely nothing. They've told the
people, it's all okay, you can go back to your houses. And this is absolutely not the case. Because
if you listen to chemical engineers, they are saying this is the biggest, it's like a
nuclear attack.
问：也许里克可以转发给你一些关于这片云的信息，它的形成和水污染，这是自周一以来
在美国的普遍知识。因为这对美国来说绝对是一件毁灭性的事情。还有政府，拜登先生
和？什么都没做。他们告诉人们，一切都很好，你们可以回家了。而事实绝对不是这样。
因为如果你听化学工程师说，他们会说这是最大的，就像核攻击一样。

K- I know nothing, I can't make a comment. I am not aware of it.

我什么都不知道，我不能发表评论。我不知道。

Q: I understand Mr. Keshe, because I also only learned about it over the weekend. But
I'm sure that Rick knows something about it, or could find out what he can forward to
you. Because there is there is an urgent need for help.
问：我理解 Keshe 先生，因为我也是在周末才知道的。但我肯定里克知道一些事情，
或者可以找到他能转发给你的东西。因为那里急需帮助。

K- Thank you very much.

非常感谢。

R: We can look into it. It may be one of the biggest spills, it's possible. But you also have
to consider they have spills every single day in the US in all of their water supplies, and
the Mississippi is one of the most contaminated rivers in the world, probably.
R：我们可以调查一下。这可能是最大的泄漏之一，这是可能的。但你也必须考虑到他们
每天都在美国所有的水供应中发生泄漏，而密西西比河可能是世界上污染最严重的河流之
一。

K- It's like swimming in Ganges, huh. (3:04). .. it's contaminated with all the chemicals
coming from the top.
就像在恒河里游泳一样。( 3: 04)...它被所有来自顶部的化学物质污染了。

R: The Gulf is contaminated from all the drilling that they've done there, and that's
contaminated the mouth of the Mississippi, and so on and so forth. And this is a big
problem.
R：墨西哥湾被他们在那里进行的所有钻探污染了，密西西比河的入海口也被污染了，等
等等等。这是个大问题。

Q: It is not just the rivers. It is the groundwater which gets infected, and that is enormous
thing about it. So, I would really ask you kindly, go and have a look at it. Because this
spill is a spill, which has never happened before. Never.
问：不仅仅是河流。受感染的是地下水，这是一件大事。所以，我真的很想请你去看看。
因为这次泄漏是一次泄漏，以前从未发生过。从不。

K- I'm sure people who are in touch with us, will fill us in within the next day or two. And you
have to understand, whenever we offer any help it gets just put aside, because
it's from the Keshe Foundation. So, we have to look at it.
我相信和我们有联系的人，会在接下来的一两天内告诉我们。你必须明白，无论何时我们
提供任何帮助，它都会被搁置一边，因为它来自凯舍基金会。所以，我们必须看看它。

R: The US is not in a position to accept help from an Iranian based sources, especially
right now. They negate anything that's associated with Iran, and they put sanctions on it
as soon as they hear about it even. So, it might have an opposite effect to try to…
R：美国不能接受来自伊朗的帮助，尤其是现在。他们否定任何与伊朗有关的事情，甚至
一听说就对其实施制裁。因此，尝试…可能会产生相反的效果。

K- Let's see what happen, we can still teach the Americans Knowledge Seekers to use it. Let's
see. I don't know nothing about it, I can't make a comment.
让我们看看会发生什么，我们仍然可以教美国知识寻求者使用它。让我们看看。我对此一
无所知，我不能发表评论。

R: As Carolyn has put into the chat here. She said, a vinyl chloride is the main chemical
that's been spilled, there's many cars, I think there's a hundred cars all together in the train
that overturned and spilled. And there's, you know, (3:06). a huge mushroom cloud of
black smoke from it all. And it's gotten into the woods.
R：正如卡洛琳在聊天中所说的那样。她说，氯乙烯是泄漏的主要化学物质，有很多车
厢，我想火车上总共有一百节车厢翻车并泄漏。还有，你知道，（3：06）。巨大的蘑菇
云和黑烟。它进入了树林。
K- Which state is it?
是哪个州？

R: In Ohio. It's called, strangely enough, the location is called East Palestine, in Ohio.
R：在俄亥俄州。奇怪的是，这个地方叫做东巴勒斯坦，在俄亥俄州。

K- I saw something. It's like a big black cloud, it's like a chimney going up.
我看到了一些东西。就像一大片乌云，就像一个烟囱在上升。

R: Yes, we didn't hear about it for three days, because it was censored in mass media,
basically. They decided to host the stories about the balloons, the weather balloons,
instead of shooting down balloons, to distract perhaps from the mushroom cloud that was
actually going up in Ohio.
R：是的，我们有三天没有听说这件事，因为它基本上被大众媒体审查了。他们决定主持
关于气球和气象气球的报道，而不是击落气球，也许是为了转移人们对俄亥俄州正在升起
的蘑菇云的注意力。

Q: That's it. Because what they did, is instead of evacuating the few carriages, which had
this poison, they ignited it. And that is…
问：就这样了。因为他们所做的，不是疏散几节有毒的车厢，而是点燃了它。那就是……

R: A controlled burn, they call it. Yes, which is what firefighters do. And they're totally
desperate and don't know how to clean up ??.
R：他们称之为可控烧伤。是的，这就是消防员的工作。他们完全绝望了，不知道如何清
理？

Q: And nobody knows who gave the instructions. Because it is clear that the moment it
becomes in touch with anything, which is humidity. It turns into this enormous, enormous
poison, which goes now into the subterranean waterways. And that's where the problems
could come from over the next years. Because this is cancer again, cancer again, and
that's the problem. Anyway, I understand Mr. Keshe, if you don't know of anything, you
cannot have an answer to my question. (3:08). Eventually, this will be possible that
really Rick gives you whatever he can, so that you can make your own mind up, and tell
us the Knowledge Seekers by I know we cannot do much. But maybe there is something
we can do and they can do in America. Thank you very much.
问：没人知道是谁下的指令。因为很明显，当它接触到任何东西的时候，那就是湿度。它
变成了巨大的，巨大的毒药，现在进入了地下水道。这就是未来几年可能出现的问题。因
为这又是癌症，又是癌症，这就是问题所在。无论如何，我理解凯舍先生，如果你什么都
不知道，你就不能回答我的问题。( 3: 08).最终，这将是可能的，里克给你他所能给的
一切，这样你就可以做出自己的决定，并告诉我们知识追求者我知道我们做不了什么。但
也许我们可以做些什么，他们也可以在美国做些什么。非常感谢。

K- Thank you very much. We usually, we had such as things done before, for like in
Italy. For the 9 most cancerous waters, we gave 100 - 200 pages report to the Italian
Ambassador in Austria, after a lot of tests done, actually by the Italian laboratories,
financed by the regional and central government, this research. I still have the research.
非常感谢。我们通常，我们以前做过这样的事情，比如在意大利。对于 9 种癌症最严重的
水，我们给了意大利驻奥地利大使 100-200 页的报告，经过大量的测试，实际上是由意大
利实验室进行的，由地区和中央政府资助，这项研究。我还有研究。

And they just say, cost too much. They just put it on the shelf. So it took three years, four
years to do the research. The laboratories in Italy did all the work and it's just sitting on
the shelf. And it's all to do with Teflon. We have the knowledge. I'm sure if there's a
chemical Knowledge Seekers will find the solution around it, but getting it to be done,
getting it to be accept, and getting it to implement will take years. I'm sure somebody in
the Keshe Foundation team will send us a dossier on this, what it is, what happened, how
it's made, what effect it has. It's just matter of time to receive it.
他们只是说，太贵了。他们只是把它束之高阁。所以花了三年四年的时间来做研究。意大
利的实验室做了所有的工作，但它只是被束之高阁。这一切都与特氟龙有关。我们有知
识。我敢肯定，如果有一个化学知识的寻求者会围绕它找到解决方案，但要完成它，让它
被接受，并让它实施将需要几年的时间。我相信 Keshe 基金会团队中的某个人会给我们一
份关于这件事的档案，它是什么，发生了什么，它是如何制作的，它有什么影响。收到它
只是时间问题。

Q: Right. I just took the liberty of asking you this question, because it is really millions,
(3:10). tens of millions of Americans who will be affected, and this is part of this
unbelievable trial, which they are starting to reduce world population. And I know that if
all the Keshe things will come active that they will not succeed.
问：对的。我只是冒昧地问你这个问题，因为它确实是数百万，（3：10）。数千万美国
人将受到影响，这是这个令人难以置信的试验的一部分，他们正在开始减少世界人口。我
知道，如果所有的 KESHE 事情都变得活跃起来，他们就不会成功。
K- We have to look at the chemical composition of it. And we have to look at the
interaction with the plasma. It has a different interaction in the physical condition, it has a
different action plasma, and what would that create in the plasma condition in the matter
state.
我们得看看它的化学成分。我们必须研究与等离子体的相互作用。它在物理条件下有不同的
相互作用，它在等离子体中有不同的作用，在物质状态下的等离子体条件下会产生什么。
So, it's, first of all, getting to these things, it's very difficult for them to provide the
material to be tested. And secondly, if there is such a big scale damage, they are running
like, there's chickens running around, just trying to limit the damage. And there is no
answer to it. We tried, we used to get excited, and get involved and then Knowledge
Seekers do a lot of work. And then it was totally, no, sorry, we don't have the expertise to
evaluate your technology. That's usually the terminology for it.
所以，首先，他们很难提供要测试的材料。其次，如果有这么大规模的破坏，他们就会像鸡
一样跑来跑去，只是为了减少破坏。对此没有答案。我们尝试过，我们曾经很兴奋，参与其
中，然后知识寻求者做了很多工作。然后它完全是，不，对不起，我们没有专业知识来评估
你的技术。这通常是它的术语。

Q: But you know, everything is most probably and hopefully going to change by
tomorrow night in America, because the Supreme Court will hear again, the things which
were docketed by the three brothers about the validity of the 1920 elections, and then we
will see. (3:12). Because America is really presently nothing more, but a bunch of
gangsters, I cannot say it, otherwise.
问：但你知道，美国的一切都很有可能，也很有希望在明天晚上发生改变，因为最高法院将
再次审理三兄弟关于 1920 年选举有效性的诉讼，然后我们将拭目以待。( 3: 12).因为美国
现在真的什么都不是，只是一群流氓，我不能说，否则。

K- I prefer, I have enough battles with them at the moment. So, I prefer to stay very quiet. We have
enough battles on our hand with the American structure. But we still work, we
try to be around them. And we try to be part of the structures as Knowledge Seekers, but
arrogance has led to stupidity, and stupidity leads to a lot of misconducts. So we have to
see. Thank you very much.
我更喜欢，我现在已经和他们打得够多了。所以，我更喜欢保持安静。我们与美国结构的斗
争已经够多了。但我们仍然在工作，我们试着和他们在一起。作为知识追求者，我们试图成
为结构的一部分，但傲慢导致了愚蠢，而愚蠢导致了许多不当行为。所以我们必须看到。非
常感谢。

Any other question? Jalal is there.

还有其他问题吗？贾拉尔在那里。

Q: Jalal .. Actually, it's not a question. It's a comparison about what you taught today. Although I
didn't really, this was a very bad day for me, because I didn't hear a lot from
your teaching. But from what I heard, it's about the MaGrav and the transformer. Is the
relationship between the MaGrav to the transformer is the same relationship between a
man and the Earth?
问：贾拉尔..实际上，这不是一个问题。这是关于你今天所教的内容的比较。虽然我没有，
但这对我来说是非常糟糕的一天，因为我没有从你的教学中听到很多。但据我所知，是关于
马格拉夫和变形金刚的。马格拉夫和变压器之间的关系和人和地球之间的关系是一样的吗？

K- Explain. (3:14).

K-解释。( 3: 14).
Q: Shall I teach here?

问：我可以在这里教书吗？

K- Yes, please. We are a student, we are all Knowledge Seekers.

好的，请。我们是学生，我们都是求知者。
Q: Okay. If the MaGrav take 1 kilowatt, he will give back 3, 4, 5 kilowatts back to the
source. And where this energy will be deposited it's in the transformers...
问：好的。如果马格拉夫拿走 1 千瓦，他会把 3，4，5 千瓦归还给源头。这些能量将被储存
在变压器里。

K- No ... Let me explain something very, very simple. If you heard in Monday, and
recently, we don't talk, because it has, it brings different understanding. It brings different
realization, different comprehension. When you say, saving unit, energy saving units,
they look at something else.
不..让我解释一些非常非常简单的事情。如果你在周一听到，最近，我们不说话，因为它带
来了不同的理解。它带来了不同的认识，不同的理解。当你说，节约单位，节能单位时，他
们看的是别的东西。
When the correct way for it is a hybrid plasma power generator. Because population now
understand the term hybrid. We always, in presenting the technology, the wrong way we
speak about saving. In fact, if you speak about the hybrid, that we produce some and the
electricity board produces the other, you get more collaboration, you get more
understanding. You understand? And then it kills a lot of enigmas and a lot of opposition.
当它的正确方法是混合等离子体发电机时。因为人们现在理解了混血儿这个词。在介绍技
术时，我们总是以错误的方式谈论储蓄。事实上，如果你谈到混合动力，我们生产一些，
电力委员会生产另一种，你会得到更多的合作，你会得到更多的理解。你明白吗？然后它
消除了很多谜团和很多反对意见。

In fact, this is what you do. (3:16). You absorb the plasma energy in the environment,
which we didn't have a knowledge of, and convert it with the help of the electric current
into a useful energy. So, you're "hybriding." When you speak about this, transformers
don't come into it. Because then you understand the true essence of technology.
事实上，这就是你所做的。( 3: 16).你吸收环境中的等离子体能量，这是我们所不知道
的，并在电流的帮助下将其转化为有用的能量。所以，你是“混血”。当你谈论这件事
时，变形金刚不会介入其中。因为这样你才能理解技术的真正本质。

Why do you call it, magnetical, and why do you call it gravitation. Magnetical is the one
you don't need in your body, is magnetical. And gravitational is the food you put in your
mouth. The human body is a hybrid, is a converter. So, if you speak about, is it the coils,
is it the transformer. No. It's creating more surface area to convert the plasma energy in
the environment, into a useful energy, than what is sitting as useless energy. That's all it
is.
为什么你称它为磁力，为什么你称它为引力？磁性是你身体里不需要的东西，是磁性的。
引力是你放进嘴里的食物。人体是一个混合体，是一个转换器。所以，如果你说的是，是
线圈，还是变压器。不。它创造了更多的表面积来将环境中的等离子体能量转化为有用的
能量，而不是无用的能量。仅此而已。

The comprehension about what we call, the Enhancement Unit, we call it an

Enhancement Plasma Unit, because it's a hybrid. The hybrid you have a fuel and electric,
you produce electric current, or you fuel it when it's needed. This, the beauty of this
works within the structure of electricity. This is what I said to you before and you to the
Knowledge Seekers. (3:18).
关于我们所说的增强单元的理解，我们称之为增强等离子单元，因为它是一个混合体。你
有燃料和电力的混合动力，你产生电流，或者你在需要的时候给它加燃料。这个，这个的
美在电的结构中起作用。这是我以前对你说的，也是你对知识追求者说的。( 3: 18).

We can show you with one second, with one wire, actually, with one wire, how you can
have zero energy. But you will really, truly have zero energy, you will pay no electricity
bill. Because the Electric Board will come and take your meter away, you have no
electricity. Because you're using this system to absorb more energy from environment,
than you're paying for it. You need Nano micro watts to do it. Once you set up your Nano
coating, your environment correctly.
我们可以在一秒钟内，用一根电线，实际上，用一根电线，向你展示如何使能量为零。但
你真的，真的没有能量，你不用付电费。因为电板会来把你的电表拿走，你没有电。因为
你用这个系统从环境中吸收了更多的能量，而不是你为它支付的费用。你需要纳米微瓦才
能做到。一旦你设置了你的纳米涂层，你的环境就正确了。

If you look, scientifically or visually about the MaGrav system, the range you have. It's
like you sit in the…you sit in the bathroom, pull the plug. You see the water going down
the hole in a vortex. That's your magnetic field. Now go and sit on the other side of the
plug and see how the water comes out. One is gravitational pulling in, and one
magnetically releasing it. That's all you do.
如果你科学地或直观地观察 Magrav 系统，你所拥有的范围。就像你坐在…你坐在浴室里，
拔掉插头。你可以看到水以漩涡的形式从洞里流下来。那是你的磁场。现在去坐在塞子的
另一边，看看水是怎么出来的。一个是引力吸引，一个是磁力释放。这就是你所做的一
切。

But, I'm sure in the future scientists will develop the technology to show us how Nano
materials are absorbing these energies in the rings. I've given you a what you call it, a
funnel of energies. Both letting in and letting out in the same platform. That's all it is.
但是，我相信在未来，科学家们将开发技术，向我们展示纳米材料是如何在环中吸收
这些能量的。我给了你一个你所谓的能量漏斗。在同一个平台上进出。仅此而已。

So it's not a transformer. Maybe you want to call it a transformer, because it suits you. But it's a
hybrid system. And the engine of the hybrid is that Nano layer. That's all it is. I
can create you the same energy from a straight line Nano coated, (3:20). as you twist it a
thousand times. It's understanding the technology.
所以它不是变压器。也许你想叫它变形金刚，因为它很适合你。但它是一个混合系统。而
混合动力的引擎就是那个纳米层。仅此而已。我可以从直线纳米涂层中为你创造同样的能
量，（3：20）。当你把它扭曲一千次。是对技术的理解。
I was yesterday with our Knowledge Seekers developing. You saw the old ones, and then
you saw the new reactors for space technology. Now, we have gone into universal system
technology, developing it. Which in fact will work like a star, a satellite on its own
without rotation. We have started creating a real life scale systems as a planet, without
rotation, of matter state. It will be on the table tested within the next week or two. And
then this gives us a totally different ballgame.
我昨天和我们的求知者一起发展。你看到了旧的反应堆，然后你看到了用于太空技术的新反
应堆。现在，我们已经进入通用系统技术，开发它。事实上，它将像一颗恒星一样工作，一
颗没有旋转的卫星。我们已经开始创造一个真实的生命尺度系统，作为一个行星，没有旋
转，物质状态。它将在未来一两周内进行测试。然后这给了我们一个完全不同的游戏。

This is the beginning of the what I call, new satellite system. Where we can hang one of
these over a city and connect it to every point in this planet. It's part of the development
now, it's gone into a process of development, both in our laboratories in Tehran and in
Austria. Both simultaneously are running into tests.
这就是我所说的新卫星系统的开始。在那里我们可以把其中的一个挂在城市上空，并把它连
接到这个星球上的每一个点。这是现在发展的一部分，它已经进入了一个发展过程，在我们
德黑兰和奥地利的实验室里。两者都在同时进行测试。

It's the beginning of the universal transport or what we call, Enhancement Systems. As a,
not a hybrid, as a single plasma system. (3:22). Where when we places these in specific
ways, you have the wireless lights on the streets, you have the light at the point you need
it, you create a light at the point of interaction, you create food at the point of interaction. It doesn't
matter if you are 10 meters on the ground, or you live in a skyscraper, you still
receive the same kind of energy for food and the rest of it. The new generation of
Universal plasma units, what you call, as a whole, now it's under construction.
这是通用运输的开始，或者我们所说的增强系统。作为一个，而不是一个混合体，作为一个
单一的等离子系统。( 3: 22).当我们以特定的方式放置这些东西时，你在街道上有无线
灯，在你需要的地方有灯，你在互动点创造了一个灯，在互动点创造了食物。不管你是在地
面上 10 米高的地方，还是住在摩天大楼里，你仍然可以获得同样的能量来获取食物和其他
东西。你所说的新一代通用等离子装置，作为一个整体，现在正在建设中。

And I know the outcome, because I built it years ago. When I was trying to understand
winding and transfer of the fields. It took me about a year to explain to a guy who in one
of the big companies making winding for electric motors. He went back to college for six
months a year. He said, because I have to understand things you're telling me, I'd never
understood, even I make them. It took him about six months to make one for me. The full
process took more than two years. And it shows, it's like a hat, it's heavy, god knows, 4
or 5 kilos, I don't know. But it's a half space generator plasma system, but in matter state. It's in the
lab. It's yellowish gold color, it's got the coating on it.
我知道结果，因为我几年前就建好了。当我试图理解田野的缠绕和转移时。我花了大约一年
的时间才向一家大公司的一个人解释清楚，他是一家为电动机制造绕组的公司。他每年回大
学六个月。他说：“因为我必须理解你告诉我的事情，我从来没有理解过，即使是我做
的。”他花了大约六个月的时间为我做了一个。整个过程历时两年多。它显示，它像一顶帽
子，它很重，上帝知道，4 或 5 公斤，我不知道。但它是一个半空间发生器等离子体系统，
但处于物质状态。在实验室里。它是黄金色的，上面有涂层。
Now that knowledge from what I learned on a three phase or the three dimensional
matter, you call it a phase, I call it, what you call it, the matter, the Soul and the Spirit, or
whatever you call it, (3:24). liquid, solid and gas state energy. You just give it a different
name. It has become the basis of the unit which we use on Sunday for the first time.
现在，我从三个阶段或三维物质中学到的知识，你称之为阶段，我称之为，你称之为，物
质，灵魂和精神，或无论你怎么称呼它，（3：24）。液态、固态和气态能量。你只要给它
一个不同的名字。它已经成为我们第一次在星期天使用的单位的基础。

We have created a full half sphere dynamic plasma containers. And now from 12 - 14
years ago in matter state, now the plasma state version of it has been created, which goes
on the test. Then the true sphere plasma will be tested in next few weeks. It's not a
transformer. It's a system which absorbs energy. When you put it that way, people don't
understand. Then when they test it doesn't show the same results, because the results are
very much different, than what you see in a common transformer. Then you create
confusion and problems for yourself.
我们创造了一个完整的半球动态等离子体容器。现在从 12-14 年前的物质状态，现在它的等
离子体状态版本已经被创造出来，正在进行测试。在接下来的几周里，我们将对真正的球形
等离子体进行测试。这不是变压器。这是一个吸收能量的系统。当你这么说的时候，人们不
理解。然后当他们测试时，它不会显示相同的结果，因为结果与您在普通变压器中看到的结
果有很大不同。然后你给自己制造困惑和问题。

This is a hybrid. A hybrid you have an electric engine, and a mechanical motor. In here,
you have a matter state and Nano coating. Two systems, in conjunction one supports the
other. But ones allows the other one to accommodate and work together.
这是个混血儿。混合动力车有一个电动引擎和一个机械马达。在这里，你有物质状态和纳
米涂层。两个系统，一个系统支持另一个系统。但一方允许另一方适应并一起工作。
That's why you use that 20% energy and 80% comes from the environment, then we say
you get 80% reduction. It's exactly, if you look at it, it's what I told you as humans do. You eat 20%,
you get 80% from environment. Now you see physically working in your
plasma MaGrav systems. You take 20% from the main coming in, and 80% we give you
？?. We made you a human what you call, plasma converter. (3:26). You see the same.
这就是为什么你使用了 20%的能源，而 80%来自环境，那么我们说你减少了 80%。确切地说，
如果你仔细看，这就是我告诉你的人类所做的。你吃了 20%，你从环境中得到了 80%。现在
你可以看到在你的等离子 MAGRAV 系统中的物理工作。你从主要收入中拿 20%，我们给你
80%。?.我们把你变成了你所谓的人类，等离子转换器。( 3: 26).你看到的一样。

When you run these new plasma energy units, you will go up to 80 - 90%. It's like you
taking 80% - 90% food, it becomes current, electric current and 80% comes from the
Cosmos, CR. That's what you do with your plasmas. You have to change the language,
now that you become knowledgeable, into the reality of what it is, and you can explain it.
当你运行这些新的等离子能量单位，你将上升到 80-90%。这就像你拿了 80%-90%的食物，它
变成了电流，电流，80%来自宇宙，Cr.这就是你用等离子做的。你必须改变语言，现在你变
得知识渊博，变成现实，你可以解释它。

Q: So, we have in this case, to create the sink to take the surplus energy?
问：所以，在这种情况下，我们要创造一个水槽来吸收多余的能量。
K- There's no surplus. You have to create a sink the way, the amount you want to take
from it. The whole process is, we have a number of obstacles with the present electrical
systems. One is you have a 16 amp fuses, then you have the backup fuses in the power
station, substations and the rest of it. When we have a huge surge, and electric cables get
hit with transmission lines between the substation and the power station, we don't see
power station blowing up. We have made facilities for it to stop, to block. You have to
do….
没有多余的。你必须创造一个水槽的方式，你想从中得到的量。在整个过程中，我们在目前
的电力系统中遇到了许多障碍。一个是你有一个 16 安培的保险丝，然后你在发电站，变电
站和其他地方有备用保险丝。当我们遇到巨浪时，电缆被变电站和发电站之间的输电线击
中，我们不会看到发电站爆炸。我们已经做了设施，让它停止，阻止。你必须做….

Q: The question Mr. Keshe here, why is the power station is the sink in respect to the
MaGrav let's say?
问：Keshe 先生的问题是，为什么发电站是 Magrav 的水槽？

K- Because it's weaker than your MaGrav system.

因为它比你的马格拉夫系统弱。

Q: They are using the nuclear stations?

问：他们在使用核电站。

K- It doesn't matter. They go conversion back into electric power. (3:28). .. Yes, that's
where it does.
这不重要。它们重新转换成电力。( 3: 28)...是的，就是这样。

This is something which I realized very early on in my education. In the third year in
Queen Mary College, we had to take it, because we were reactor specialists in power
producing powers. We had to do a course which I hated to do it. And it was, the interface
between the nuclear power station and the grid. We had to understand the whole process
of the grid, how much it costs, how it works, transformers, transmission lines. This is
something to me was useless, because I don't need it.
这是我在很早的教育中就意识到的。在玛丽女王学院的第三年，我们必须参加，因为我们是
发电方面的反应堆专家。我们不得不做一门我讨厌做的课程。它是核电站和电网之间的接
口。我们必须了解电网的整个过程，它的成本是多少，它是如何工作的，变压器，输电线
路。这对我来说是无用的，因为我不需要它。

Tesla brought in AC current and put in one power station. Edison came out with the DC
and multiple power stations. With the plasma technology you need one power station and
no transmission. With the new technology …If you understood the teaching of today, and
even on Monday the demonstration, and the picture of the light I showed you, we're done
with transmission. We don't need. All these copper lines we use for transmission lines
laying on the street, give them back to me, I give them more energy with no cost,
changing them, Nano coating them to the position and the way we do.
特斯拉引入了交流电，并建立了一个发电站。爱迪生推出了直流电和多个发电站。有了等离
子技术，你只需要一个发电站，没有传输。使用新技术..如果你理解了今天的教学，甚至周
一的演示，以及我给你看的光的图片，我们就完成了传输。我们不需要。所有这些我们用来
铺设在街道上的输电线路的铜线，把它们还给我，我给它们更多的能量，没有成本，改变它
们，纳米涂层它们的位置和我们做的方式。
You have no power cuts, you have no, oh, lightening stroke and the power station is
down. Sorry, the water supply has cut, because if you have the understanding, you just
put the machine there which converts energy into water the way your body does. The
knowledge is there. Now, how do we do it? I always…It's one of my pitfalls in my
education, I never believed in electrical part of the education, because to me it's useless. And now
today we showed you the picture. ？? You don't need to understand
transmission, everything, when you can transfer the plasma. My body does it, (3:30).
why can't I develop the technology to do it?
你没有停电，你没有，哦，雷击，发电站也没有。对不起，水的供应被切断了，因为如果
你理解的话，你只要把机器放在那里，它就会像你的身体一样把能量转化为水。知识就在
那里。现在，我们该怎么做？我总是……这是我教育中的一个陷阱，我从不相信教育中的
电子部分，因为对我来说它是无用的。今天我们给你们看了这张照片。？?当你可以传输
等离子体时，你不需要了解传输，一切。我的身体做到了，（3：30）。为什么我不能开
发技术来做呢？

If you remember, go back four or five years ago, we showed for the first time the light of
the plasma from Austria Research Center, if you remember those light bulbs. Now we
become to show LED light, which is a total matter state. We can actually, not actually,
you know, when we had the headset, we showed the new headset? Our people from the
research center said, oh, we can put a light in there to show when it's working. And I said,
it's that much, because we don't need to draw a line to it, or put a battery in it. Your
Compact generator produces that light, that lights up your system while it's remote. And
at no cost.
如果你还记得，回到四五年前，我们第一次展示了来自奥地利研究中心的等离子光，如果
你还记得那些灯泡。现在我们变成了显示 LED 灯，这是一个总的物质状态。我们实际上可
以，不是实际上，你知道，当我们有耳机的时候，我们展示了新的耳机。我们研究中心的
人说，哦，我们可以在那里放一盏灯来显示它什么时候工作。我说，就这么多，因为我们
不需要给它画一条线，或者把电池放进去。你的小型发电机产生的光，照亮了你的系统，
而它是远程的。而且是免费的。

I remember a few years ago, when I was invited to Germany to see professor Miles, and
he took me to his house, and then to his lab when he was a students. He said, you see, he
had a little boat swimming in a little plastic pond. And he said, the energy unit for it is
there, and we run the boat from here. But I use a scalar wave, what you call, the sink. It
can go through, where Tesla use what we call, the other side of it. A sink and a
distributor, whatever you want to call it, magnetical gravitation, it's all the same
language.
我记得几年前，当我被邀请去德国拜访迈尔斯教授时，他带我去了他的家，然后去了他的
实验室，那时他还是个学生。他说，你看，他有一艘小船在一个小塑料池塘里游泳。他
说，它的能量单位在那里，我们从这里运行这艘船。但我用的是标量波，也就是你们所说
的水槽。它可以通过，特斯拉使用我们所说的，它的另一边。一个水槽和一个分配器，不
管你怎么称呼它，磁引力，都是同样的语言。

One part you receive, and one part you give. (3:32). And that is the beauty of it. When
you understand it, just change the language. But understand when you speak about, oh,
we have transformers, we can save you energy. Some. But put a new knowledge in their
head, it's a hybrid. We use energy from your clothes, from your body, from the dog, from
the cats, from the bird, from the light in the house, which you don't have any need for it,
they're emitting it, to give you back electricity for the house.
一部分是你得到的，一部分是你给予的。( 3: 32).这就是它的美妙之处。当你理解它
时，只需改变语言。但要明白，当你谈到，哦，我们有变压器，我们可以节省你的能源。
一些。但把新知识放进他们的脑袋里，这是一个混合体。我们使用你的衣服，你的身体，
狗，猫，鸟，房子里的灯的能量，你不需要它，它们正在发射它，给你房子的电力。

If you think of it, in reality... it's a dehumidifier. Have you seen these big dehumidifier
systems? You get it run and you keep on collecting water in gallons. That's your
magnetical system and gravitational system. You're sucking air, converting into water in
the dehumidifier. Our Nano layers absorbs energy fields and does that, and it's a water
and it gives you electricity. That's all it is.
如果你想到它，在现实中..是除湿机。你见过这些大型除湿系统吗？你让它运行，你继续
收集加仑的水。这就是你的磁力系统和引力系统。你在吸空气，在除湿器里转化成水。我
们的纳米层吸收能量场并做到这一点，它是一种水，它给你电。仅此而已。

You have electric dehumidifier, or plasma dehumidifier? Or is it plasma, de-plasma air,

whatever you want to call it. That's all it is. When you speak about the transformer, you
go way out of the reality.
你有电动除湿机，还是等离子除湿机？或者是等离子，去等离子空气，随便你怎么称呼
它。仅此而已。当你谈论变压器的时候，你就脱离了现实。

Anything else, Jalal?

还有别的事吗，贾拉尔？
Q: No, it's ok, Mr. Keshe. It's only what you said, what we take and what we give in
respect, and what is the line of connection. We can transfer this energy as you said, that's
？? clear. (3:34).
问：不，没关系，凯什先生。这只是你所说的，我们所得到的和我们所给予的尊重，以及
什么是连接线。我们可以像你说的那样转移能量，那是？?清除。( 3: 34).

K- You see, if you go back, the technology and knowledge is consistent, it's just that you
couldn't understand at that time. Maybe today you understand part of it and some of you
have already understood part of it, or most of it. If you look at the MaGrav system, it
always gave you that mixture in the center ball. And we asked you to, when you Nano
coated it, to the put some Gans on it. Do you remember, you still do it. That ball is a sink. And
that ball is the provider at the same time.
你看，如果你回去，技术和知识是一致的，只是你当时不能理解。也许今天你们理解了其
中的一部分，有些人已经理解了其中的一部分，或者大部分。如果你看看马格拉夫系统，
它总是在中心球中给你混合物。我们要求你，当你给它涂上纳米涂层时，在上面放一些甘
斯。你还记得吗，你还在做。那个球是个水槽。同时球也是提供者。

When we tell you, when you make.. Some people say, oh, I made a MaGrav unit, it didn't
work, a little bit, blah, blah. But none of you ever listened to the whole process we tell
you. What to put in the ball? What to put on the Nano coating? How you Nano coat. When we
tell you has a procedure, has a reason. You follow, you get the cake. You don't
follow, you have dough.
当我们告诉你，当你..有些人说，哦，我做了一个马格拉夫单位，它没有工作，一点点，
废话，废话。但你们没有人听过我们告诉你们的整个过程。球里放什么？在纳米涂层上涂
什么？你的纳米涂层。当我们告诉你有一个程序，有一个理由。你跟着，就能得到蛋糕。
你不跟着，你就有钱。

How come we transfer the same knowledge to the labs in Tehran, they get the same
results as we get from the lab in Austria. And we show you on Monday 50% plug and
play, the minute you plug in you get your 50%, and then you build up. If you plug it in
the first time, a few hours it build up to get to the point and builds up, it goes up, it goes
up.
为什么我们把同样的知识转移到德黑兰的实验室，他们得到的结果和我们从奥地利的实验
室得到的结果一样。我们在周一向你展示了 50%的即插即用，当你插上电源的那一刻，你
就得到了 50%，然后你就积累起来了。如果你第一次插上电源，几个小时后，它就会积累
起来，然后积累起来，它就会上升，上升。

But again there is a…You have to understand between the matter state, and Gans state,
(3:36). and the Nano layer state, and how to play it. Then you get a huge conversion. In
our system, we reach that point of conversion, we don't need to, because we don't need to
put something back into the grid. We feed everything back into our system. And then we
evolve it.
但再次有一个…你必须理解物质状态和甘斯状态之间的关系（3：36）。和纳米层状态，
以及如何发挥它。然后你会得到一个巨大的转换。在我们的系统中，我们达到了转换点，
我们不需要，因为我们不需要把一些东西放回网格中。我们把一切都反馈到我们的系统
中。然后我们进化它。

I know where you're going, and I know what you are talking. Your team in the
background you're working with, I get a lot of insight in what they're doing and how
they're doing things. You have to get together and redefine your work. Your guy
Philippine is nearly there, your guy in Thailand is on it. But he's not as what you call it,
scientific, electric minded. Then your other guys…Your group is hovering around like a
moths around the light. But you don't want to understand the light is you, you don't need
to be the moth. That's the problem. I watch what your team is doing. It's beautiful. And
how they, you're different people in different parts of the world, working together, come
to something and they leave it, because they don't understand it they come back. And I
say, they don't listen to the teaching do they. As you know I don't interfere. When I
interfere, when I go in directly like in the research centers, we develop things and we
change things ？?. (3:38).
我知道你要去哪里，我知道你在说什么。你的团队在后台与你一起工作，我对他们在做什
么以及他们如何做事有很多见解。你必须聚在一起重新定义你的工作。你在菲律宾的人快
到了，你在泰国的人也在上面。但他并不像你所说的那样，科学，有头脑。然后你的其他
人…你的团队就像飞蛾一样在灯光下盘旋。但你不想明白光就是你，你不需要成为飞蛾。
这就是问题所在。我看着你的团队在做什么。它真美。他们，你们是世界上不同地方的不
同的人，一起工作，来到某件事，然后离开，因为他们不理解它，他们回来了。我说，他
们不听教导，不是吗？如你所知，我不干涉。当我介入时，当我直接进入研究中心时，我
们开发东西，我们改变东西。?.(3:38).

Q: Maybe we need to invite the Creator to a lunch.

问：也许我们需要邀请造物主共进午餐。

K- Have the one on Sunday when you meet him. Have a quick chat.
星期天你见他的时候就有了。有一个简短的聊天。
Q: Yes, as you said Mr. Keshe, we have to, in a way, to be humble.
问：是的，正如你所说，凯什先生，我们必须，在某种程度上，保持谦逊。

K- No, it's to understand. Because when you're humble, you are not arrogant, you see
everything. When you become arrogant you become one sided point of view. That's the
difference.
不，是为了理解。因为当你谦卑的时候，你不会傲慢，你会看到一切。当你变得傲慢时，
你的观点就会变得片面。这就是区别。

Q: Yes, thank you Mr. Keshe. By the way, the Knowledge Seekers they will not invite
any more Dean to the workshops.
问：是的，谢谢你，凯什先生。顺便说一下，知识寻求者不会再邀请任何院长参加研讨
会。
K- What do you mean?
你什么意思？
Q: He is not benefit to the Knowledge Seekers, he didn't give any tips, nothing.
问：他对知识追求者没有任何好处，他没有给任何提示，什么都没有。
K- What do you mean? You want to spy on us?
你什么意思？你想监视我们？
Q: Mr. Keshe, nothing, nothing. We get nothing from him of what you've done.
问：凯什先生，没什么，没什么。我们从他那里得不到任何关于你所做的事的信息。

K- The whole structure of the Keshe Foundation work is very, what you call it, compact. And
you see the beauty of it when you go to the Research Centers, and you see their
work. What we show in public is dinosaur time, to compare to what is developed and
what's inside. And part of the technology you see, it's not even in the realm of
imagination, you let alone reality, which is sitting in these systems.
KESHE 地基工程的整体结构非常紧凑。当你去研究中心时，你会看到它的美妙之处，你会
看到他们的工作。我们在公众面前展示的是恐龙时代，与开发的和内部的东西进行比较。
你看到的技术的一部分，它甚至不在想象的范围内，更不用说现实了，它就在这些系统
中。

We have the technology to create the matter state, we have the technology to create fields
of what you call, the Soul. We have the technology to understand the interaction between
them. We have created a system which has a Soul. We measure it. (3:40). You see that
blue line in the graph? That's the Soul of the system. And you see how it follows the
STM. When I tell you, you have robots with emotion, it's already on the table. You've
seen, but you don't understand what it is, to you it's just a blue line. But that's the Soul of
the system, that's the behavior of the field of the energy of the system in respect to what
they have with them. That's why I say, nobody will ever be able to copy what the Keshe
Foundation puts out in its structure, in what you call systems. Impossibility.
我们有创造物质状态的技术，我们有创造你们所说的灵魂领域的技术。我们有技术来理解
它们之间的相互作用。我们创造了一个有灵魂的系统。我们测量它。( 3: 40).你看到图
表中的蓝线了吗？这是系统的灵魂。你可以看到它是如何跟随 STM 的。当我告诉你，你有
情感机器人时，它已经摆在桌面上了。你已经看到了，但你不明白它是什么，对你来说它
只是一条蓝线。但这是系统的灵魂，这是系统能量场的行为，与它们所拥有的有关。这就
是为什么我说，没有人能够复制 Keshe 基金会在其结构中提出的东西，在你们所谓的系统
中。不可能。

It's not, you know when you go to China, they take you to a telephone shop, the
shopkeeper first gives you a Chinese version and then he puts an Apple version original
on the table. Then even when you buy the Apple original version, it's actually a copy
themselves. When you use it, you understand, uh, this cannot be Apple, even if I bought
it in the original box of the Apple. I have a Chinese Apple, it's interesting when I put it
next to the Apple I bought in Europe. It looks the same, exactly functions, but when you
ask certain things from it, it doesn't do. Because it's not Apple. As I said, be careful when
you buy something with a fake things, the same as Keshe Foundation. Don't leave half of
your leg in the Atlantic on transmutation.
这不是，你知道，当你去中国的时候，他们带你去一家电话商店，店主先给你一个中文
版，然后他把一个苹果原版放在桌子上。即使你买的是苹果原版，它本身也是一个复制
品。当你使用它的时候，你明白，呃，这不可能是苹果，即使我买的是苹果的原装盒。我
有一个中国苹果，当我把它放在我在欧洲买的苹果旁边时，它很有趣。它看起来是一样
的，功能完全相同，但当你向它询问某些事情时，它不会这样做。因为它不是苹果。就像
我说的，当你买到假货的时候要小心，就像 KESHE 粉底一样。不要把你的半条腿留在大西
洋里。

Shall we call it the day?

今天就到此为止吧？

Q: Very well. Thank you Mr. Keshe. I hope this information can help someone.

问：非常好。谢谢 Keshe 先生。我希望这些信息可以帮助一些人。

K- Oh, it will help someone. Thank you very much. (3:42).

哦，它会帮助别人的。非常感谢。( 3: 42).
Anything else, Rick?
还有别的事吗，瑞克？
R: Well, there's always a few more questions, Mr. Keshe. But we will never totally catch
up. So, just remind people that if you didn't get your answer today, then just copy down
your question and try it earlier next week.
R：好吧，总是有一些问题，凯什先生。但我们永远不会完全赶上。所以，只要提醒人
们，如果你今天没有得到答案，那么就把你的问题抄下来，下周早些时候再试一试。

K- Thank you very much. We must probably see some of you on the Sunday lunch. And
we'll tell you what might happen with you after the Sunday lunch. As usually we don't
tell you anything until it happens. The ones who are in there, they get to know what it is,
and access is limited to that limitation.
非常感谢。我们可能会在周日的午餐上看到你们中的一些人。我们会告诉你周日午餐后会
发生什么。像往常一样，在事情发生之前，我们不会告诉你任何事情。那些在那里的人，
他们知道它是什么，并且访问被限制在那个限制内。

As you've seen on Monday, some of you on the Blueprint Day, we have released the new
Power Plasma Generators, which now they're mass produced and they're available. And
the Compact Plasma Unit with the Head Unit for the what we call, all sort of applications,
as the console, and the what we call, the new Knee Gans was shown for the first time on
Monday. These are all available and going through the production system in, as we start
now showing this physically. We're inviting people to come and see it in Linz Center, as
the orders come in, we'll backlog to. It's like waiting for the systems to be, in your turn to
receive it. We have started inviting and meeting with industrialists who can use and
benefit by this system in their factories and their operation.
正如你们在周一所看到的，你们中的一些人在蓝图日，我们已经发布了新的电力等离子发
生器，现在它们已经批量生产，并且可以使用。紧凑的等离子单元与我们所说的各种应用
的头部单元，如控制台，以及我们所说的，新的膝盖甘斯在周一首次展出。这些都是可用
的，并通过中的生产系统，因为我们现在开始实际展示。我们正在邀请人们来林茨中心看
它，随着订单的到来，我们将积压。这就像等待系统，轮到你来接收它。我们已经开始邀
请和会见工业家，他们可以在他们的工厂和运营中使用这个系统并从中受益。

As it grows, this is how it is and I'll bring the change. Thank you very much for today
Rick. (3:44). And hopefully, we'll have some lunch with each other on Sunday. Thank
you very much.
随着它的成长，这就是它的样子，我会带来改变。今天非常感谢你，瑞克。( 3: 44).
希望星期天我们能一起吃午饭。非常感谢。

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