499th Knowledge Seekers Workshop August 17,

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第 499 次知识寻求者研讨会，2023 年 8 月 17 日
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K- Thank you very much. Good morning, good day to you as usual, wherever and whenever you
listen to this series of Knowledge Seekers from Keshe Foundation Spaceship Institute. As usual,
we welcome you back and look forward to learn a little bit more, and be a little bit more
educated in different dimension and directions of the work of the universe (U) and ourselves.
谢谢。无论您在何时何地收听凯史基金会太空船学院的这一系列知识寻求者，早上好，
祝您有个美好的一天。像往常一样，我们欢迎您回来，并期待在宇宙（U）的工作和我们
自己的不同维度和方向上学到更多知识，增长见识。

As our Soul is part of the Universe, we are part of this integrated system. We are not part of an
odd man out, even though we think so. Even if you are lonely in a desert, you're still part of the
system. We cannot run away from it, we have a Soul and we have a physicality (P). And even if
we lose life in desert, our Soul becomes part of the universe. And if we die in palaces as its
residents, we'll still go to the same place. It's just matter of where you leave this physicality
behind. And how you have made peace with it, and how you make peace with it. And if in your
cycle of life, you were a cause, or a step forward for that peace, doesn't matter for you, for an
animal, another creature, or even the Soul and the Soul of the Physicality (STP) of yourself.
因为我们的灵魂是宇宙的一部分，我们是这个整合系统的一部分。尽管我们这样认为，
但我们并不是一个奇数中的奇怪的人。即使你在沙漠中孤独，你仍然是系统的一部分。
我们无法逃避它，我们有灵魂和物质性（P）。即使我们在沙漠中失去生命，我们的灵魂
也会成为宇宙的一部分。即使我们死在宫殿中作为其居民，我们仍将去同一个地方。这
只是在哪里抛弃这个物质性的问题。以及你如何与之和解，以及你如何与之和解。如果
在你的生命循环中，你是和平的原因或向前迈出的一步，无论对你自己、动物、其他生
物还是灵魂和你自己的物质性灵魂（STP）来说都无关紧要。

As usual, we have some small announcements and things to catch up as what's happening
around the Foundation. As you're aware, in about more or less 10 days time, the first group of
Knowledge Seekers (KS) will join us in Manchester. We'll have the same first session of the first
steps towards what we call, the space technology, in a way, in a new ways. (:18). We still have a
lot of people shuffling and shivering from Manchester to London, so there are still a couple of
places, if somebody wants to join us, as some people have moved their position to London
suddenly. In any way, the London, when you .. is going to be an amazing session, because
maybe some of you have already noticed, and some of you have not noticed. The... we had to
move the ?? (day) of the meeting with the world ambassadors, to the Saturday, the 11th of
November.
像往常一样，我们有一些小公告和要赶上的事情，了解基金会周围发生的事情。正如您所
知，在大约 10 天左右的时间里，第一批知识寻求者（KS）将加入我们在曼彻斯特的行
列。我们将以一种新的方式进行我们所称之为太空技术的第一步的第一次会议。(: 18).
我们仍然有很多人从曼彻斯特到伦敦来回奔波，所以还有一些位置，如果有人想加入我
们，因为有些人突然把他们的位置移到了伦敦。无论如何，伦敦的这次会议将会是一次令
人惊叹的会议，因为也许你们中的一些人已经注意到了，而另一些人可能还没有注意到。
我们不得不将与世界大使的会议的日期改到 11 月 11 日，星期六。

Those of you who are familiar with the Western World work, 11th of November is a "day of
peace." Is the day when the guns in the First World War went silent. And most of the Europe
celebrates this day, 11th day of the 11th month. And as is traditional, here in London, on the
11th hour, at 11 minutes, The king of England, at Cenotaph (Tomb of Unknown Soldier) lays its
flower for the dead, at the beginning of the peace, or end of war.
对于熟悉西方世界工作的人来说，11 月 11 日是一个“和平日”。是第一次世界大战中枪
声停息的那一天。而且大部分欧洲都在庆祝这一天，即 11 月 11 日。正如传统上在伦敦，
在第 11 个小时的第 11 分钟，英国国王在无名战士纪念碑上为死者献花，为和平的开始或
战争的结束。

It's good to be in London in that day, and we have invited many dignitaries, who are in London,
and politicians, to be, as part of the end of the war, beginning of the peace, and
在那一天能在伦敦是很好的，我们邀请了许多伦敦的尊贵人士和政治家，作为战争结
束、和平开始的一部分。
beginning of the world peace. Technology (T) in exchange for peace. And it's just by
coincidence, or deliberately had to move it, but it's turned out to be very beautiful the way it is.
When man decided to stop the war, but he went to war again a few years later, but still
celebrates the end of two wars. We will not be very far from Cenotaph where the conference
will take shape. (:20). And maybe as part of us on Saturday or a Sunday. As tradition is, and as I
used to live in London, we always try to go near as possible to Cenotaph, to pay respect for
those who died by the ignorance of man. So, be prepared that on Saturday and Sunday 11th
and 12th, you'll feel the feeling of the whole nation is in the mood of peace. Remembering the
dead, with the poppies, which is tradition, which goes with this time. Maybe we bring new
flower of peace, and new understanding. Join us and bring the wish of Totality, and we'll see
where we go.
世界和平的开始。以技术（T）换取和平。这只是巧合，或者故意移动它，但结果非常美
丽。当人类决定停止战争时，但几年后又再次卷入战争，但仍然庆祝两场战争的结束。
我们离纪念碑不远，会议将在那里举行。(: 20)。也许作为我们在星期六或星期日的一
部分。按照传统，我曾经住在伦敦，我们总是尽可能靠近纪念碑，向那些死于人类无知
的人致敬。所以，请准备好，在 11 日和 12 日的周六和周日，你会感受到整个国家都处于
和平的心情中。用罂粟花来纪念逝者，这是传统，与这个时刻相应。也许我们带来了和
平的新花朵和新的理解。加入我们，带来全体的愿望，我们将看到我们去哪里。

We are inviting the Iranian ambassador to London. Chinese ambassador and dignitary from
Chinese embassies will be invited. The American ambassador and American embassy staff, they
have always promised us, the next world ambassador will be there, we'll see if they stand to
their commitment. We'll have the Russians and the Ukrainians invited to the same peace talks,
table of peace. We test the world leaders and the governments, to their commitment to peace,
technology in exchange for peace. Knowing that we have the backing of two nations, and we
are there to show one of the breakthroughs in the space technology, that many, many
scientists have been waiting for centuries.
我们邀请伊朗驻伦敦大使。将邀请中国大使和来自中国大使馆的贵宾。美国大使和美国
大使馆的工作人员，他们一直向我们承诺，下一任世界大使将会在那里，我们将看到他
们是否履行承诺。我们将邀请俄罗斯人和乌克兰人参加同一桌的和平谈判。我们测试世
界领导人和政府，看他们对和平的承诺，以及以技术换取和平的意愿。知道我们得到了
两个国家的支持，并且我们在那里展示了太空技术的突破之一，这是许多科学家几个世
纪以来一直在等待的。

Don't forget, this comes on the back of a week, five days before, of the second session of the,
what we call, preparation, for the final stage in Beijing, in December. Many people are shifting
from, what we call, the Manchester to London venue, (:22). because they think they want to be
there. But the, whoever attends the Manchester venue, is automatically qualified for London.
And, so we see how it comes, and how things will turn out to be.
不要忘记，这是在北京的最后阶段的准备阶段之前的五天内进行的第二次会议的背后。
许多人正在从我们所说的曼彻斯特转移到伦敦的场地，（：22）。因为他们认为他们想
在那里。但是，无论谁参加曼彻斯特场馆的活动，都自动获得伦敦的资格。所以我们看
看情况如何发展，事情将会变成什么样子。

The process of peace has to come with the change in technology. The process of peace has to
come with an understanding of the technology that can bring that change. In the past days, in
the past week, Keshe Foundation (KF) has stepped forward in what we call, confirmation of the
technology by leading scientists in China. In a way, the technology is accepted, and in totality, as
a breakthrough. And this gives us that springboard we were looking for. In a way, by what we
call, the elite scientists, step by step approving and seeing the results of the technology at the
end, at the highest where a lot of people don't see, where we are proving the technology, we
are opening doors. And hopefully, within next year, and next couple of years, we'll see major
breakthroughs, right across the technology. Not only in China, but most probably through Iran.
和平进程必须伴随着技术的变革而来。和平的进程必须伴随着对能够带来变革的技术的理
解。在过去的几天、过去的一周中，凯西基金会（KF）在中国领先科学家的确认下迈出了
一步，我们称之为技术的确认。在某种程度上，这项技术被接受，并且总体上被视为突
破。这给了我们我们一直在寻找的跳板。在某种程度上，通过我们所谓的精英科学家，逐
步批准并看到技术的结果，最终在很多人看不到的最高处，我们正在证明这项技术，我们
正在打开大门。希望在接下来的一年和未来几年内，我们将看到技术方面的重大突破。不
仅在中国，在伊朗可能也是如此。

We will show technologies which brings the Soul of the Man (STM) into operation, not the
physicality of aircrafts, submarines, UFOs and the rest. And this will be the breakthrough. The
way we have shown, we have changed what we call, matter to energy and energy to matter.
Now we show how we change the man to energy. This is the beauty of the new space
technology, traveling through the STM. And this will shock many world leaders. This brings new
dimension (D) to space technology. Where we can show, we can
我们将展示将人的灵魂（STM）带入运作的技术，而不是飞机、潜艇、UFO 和其他物质实
体。这将是一个突破。我们所展示的方式，我们已经改变了我们所称之为物质的东西为能
量，将能量转化为物质。现在我们展示如何将人类转化为能量。这就是新空间技术的美妙
之处，通过 STM 进行旅行。这将震惊许多世界领导人。这为太空技术带来了新的维度
（D）。我们能展示的地方，我们就能
expand the STM, and transmute the Man across borders. We'll set our utmost by December to
complete this task. And in the, what we call, Beijing Conference, (:24). we will show you the
beauty of this, how you travel through the Soul, through the dimension of the ?? of the Soul,
through understanding. And this will bring the next step, to understanding the Totality.
扩展 STM，并跨越边界转化人类。我们将在十二月尽最大努力完成这个任务。在我们所称
的北京会议中，我们将向您展示这一美丽，您如何通过灵魂之旅、通过灵魂的维度、通过
理解来旅行。这将带来下一步，理解整体性。

What would we do the next step? What would be the next understanding? What would be the
totality of the understanding of the work? One of the most amazing things for us in the 11th of
November, in the meeting with world ambassadors, it will be if we get and bring the audacity of
the Iranian ambassadors, Iranian dignitaries, sitting next to the American and Israelis, as we saw
in the last ambassadorial meeting in Rome, Palestinian ambassadors amongst the others, and
this will be a wonderful step, this will be the next step, in a way to bring the next step of peace.
And then, we'll strive to reach the next step. Showing technologies to the world ambassadors,
that they could not believe it exists.
接下来我们该怎么做？下一个理解会是什么？对于这项工作的理解将是完整的吗？对我们
来说，11 月 11 日与世界大使会面时最令人惊奇的事情之一，就是如果我们能够带来伊朗
大使和伊朗尊贵人士的大胆，他们坐在美国和以色列人旁边，就像我们在罗马的上次大使
会议上看到的巴勒斯坦大使一样，这将是一个美妙的步骤，这将是下一步，为实现和平迈
出的一步。然后，我们将努力达到下一步。向世界大使展示技术，他们无法相信它的存
在。
They get involved in it, they'll be in it, and there's no way to deny.
如果他们参与其中，他们将会陷入其中，没有办法否认。

As I said to the Chinese scientists, the best thing is to deliver it while you're watching it. To
taste it while you're sitting in it, and then understand it. We'll bring systems and technologies
into London, that the world ambassadors can feel, understand and bring themselves, to be able
to explain to the nations and to their president, what is the change.
正如我对中国科学家所说的，最好的办法是在你看着它的时候交付它。当你坐在其中品
尝时，你就能理解它了。我们将把系统和技术引入伦敦，让世界大使们能够感受、理解
并将其带到自己的国家，向他们的总统解释这种变革是什么。

In one point or another, we strive to show what the Soul is. How you operate through your
Soul. How we have ignored our Creator. How we have ignored our controller and how we have
ignored the understanding of our own creation. (:26). What is this, what happened to you,
when you go to space? You travel the dimension of space. As I said before, when we did the
first lifts (flights), about this time, in 2008 in Tehran Sharif University research center, the one
question raised amongst all of us, without a doubt. And when I sat with the Iranian officers,
from the office of Ahmadinejad, he said, “ok, we achieved lift. We achieved motion. What's
next?” What do we do? We arrive on the moon. What do we do? We just got there. What do
we have to do to be more natural? What do we have to be more understanding?
在某一点上，我们努力展示灵魂是什么。你如何通过灵魂运作。我们是如何忽视我们的
创造者的。我们如何忽视了我们的控制者，以及我们如何忽视了我们自己创造的理解。
(: 26)。当你去太空时，发生了什么？你穿越空间的维度。正如我之前所说，在 2008 年
的德黑兰夏里夫大学研究中心，当我们进行第一次飞行时，毫无疑问，所有人都提出了
一个问题。当我与伊朗军官坐在一起时，来自艾哈迈迪内贾德办公室的他说：“好吧，
我们实现了起飞。”我们实现了运动。接下来呢？我们该怎么办？我们抵达月球。我们
该怎么办？我们刚刚到达那里。我们需要做些什么才能更自然？我们需要更多的理解
吗？

And as I said in the teaching of the past weeks, the, what we call, the next technology has started.
Delivery of the next technology, completion of Totality. I arrive on the Moon.
正如我在过去几周的教学中所说的，我们所谓的下一代技术已经开始了。交付下一代技
术，完成整体性。我抵达了月球。
What's next? As the children always say in the "backseat of the car, have we arrived yet?" Are
we there yet? We were there physically. If we could get our crafts on the Moon, on the Mars,
we can get our Souls on the surface of the Moon and turn up to be the strength of our Soul, is
the strength of a stone, or is the strength of the animal we don't even know, in the depth of the
ocean of the waters of one planet or another.
接下来是什么？正如孩子们总是在车的后座上说的那样，我们到了吗？我们到了吗？我们
在那里亲身经历过。如果我们能将我们的飞船送上月球、火星，我们就能将我们的灵魂带
到月球表面，并变成我们灵魂的力量，是一块石头的力量，或者是我们甚至不知道的动物
的力量，在一个行星或另一个行星的海洋深处。

But what is next? How do we create a condition of life? And this question for us became the
next target. We achieved flight. What is next? What do we do? How do we feed ourselves? How
do we create environment that we can live natural life? We don't live like monkeys in suits, like
the Americans do in the space lab. (:28). Did you see if it was real astronauts cuddling and
kissing each other, or was it just pieces of metal and cloth banging against each other? Who
likes to live in what we call, an "oil drum," when you're
但接下来呢？我们如何创造一种生活的条件？对我们来说，这个问题成为了下一个目标。
我们实现了飞行。接下来是什么？我们该怎么办？我们如何养活自己？我们如何创造一个
能够过自然生活的环境？我们不像穿着西装的猴子那样生活，就像美国人在太空实验室里
那样。(: 28).你看到的是真正的宇航员互相拥抱和亲吻，还是只是金属和布料互相碰撞
的碎片？谁喜欢住在我们所称之为"油桶"的地方，当你...
on the Moon, where you cannot do anything outside. And your daughter, your son, your wife,
your lover is in another drum next to you. We create a condition of life.
在月球上，你无法在外面做任何事情。而你的女儿、儿子、妻子、情人则在你旁边的另
一个鼓中。我们创造了一种生活条件。

This became a question. And we strived further to understand how, what happened, if you get
sick? What happen, we can bring you there faster? And that said, in the writing of the first and
second Book, and then releasing of the knowledge about the "Gans technology," conversion of
the matter to energy. And now we have, we understand that energy. We call it the STM. We call
it, the whatever. And how do we, in transition, convert this energy into a mass, into physicality,
in a dimension of life on the Moon or Mars, or another position in the universe.
这成为了一个问题。我们进一步努力去理解，如果你生病了会发生什么？发生了什么事，
我们可以让你更快地到那里吗？在第一本和第二本书的写作中，然后发布关于"Gans 技
术"的知识，物质向能量的转化。现在我们明白了能量。我们称之为 STM。我们称之为，
随便叫它什么吧。在过渡中，我们如何将这种能量转化为质量，转化为在月球、火星或宇
宙中的另一个位置的生命维度中的物质实体。

We miscalculate on the way going to Mars. We remember the beauty. We forgot to kiss our
daughter to say goodbye when I left Earth. I'm going to kiss goodbye. I land on another planet in
another universe. What am I going to do? I know where the Earth is, but how am I going to
behave? I become a stone in this environment. I become a creature which I do not know, but
my Soul is aware of my existence. What's next? And what do we do next? How far can we push
this? How can I get out of this position? How can I go back to Earth? I'm a stone on the Moon,
feeling the emotion and the strength of the field of the environment and other conditions, (:30).
?? and other stones. But what's next?
我们在去火星的路上计算错误。我们记得美丽。当我离开地球时，我们忘了亲吻我们的女
儿告别。我要告别了。我降落在另一个宇宙的另一个星球上。我要做什么？我知道地球在
哪里，但我该怎么做呢？我成为了这个环境中的一块石头。我成为了一个我不认识的生
物，但我的灵魂意识到我的存在。接下来是什么？接下来我们该做什么？我们能推动到什
么程度？我怎样才能摆脱这个困境？我怎样才能回到地球？我是月球上的一块石头，感受
着环境和其他条件的情感和力量，(:30)。?? 和其他石头。但接下来呢？
What is the capability? What's the capacity? What is the knowledge? And how can we push this
for us to understand?
能力是什么？容量是多少？知识是什么？我们如何推动这一点让我们理解呢？

To go through the transition, to go through the conversion, or go through transmutation. These

are part of the technologies, which in the upcoming sessions we will teach. We'll try to explain
for you to understand. You cannot teach this knowledge. You have to feel this knowledge. It has
to become the "second skin" of the STM, and not the physicality of the man. You know, in
English, when we say "second skin," it means that become, to be "literally home with it,"
understand it. It's very much reflex. What I am ?? .. I ?? change
经历过过渡，经历过转变，或者经历过转化。这些都是我们将在接下来的课程中教授的技
术的一部分。我们会尽力解释让你们理解。你无法教授这种知识。你必须感受这种知识。
它必须成为 STM 的"第二层皮肤"，而不是人的物质性。你知道，在英语中，当我们说"第
二层皮肤"时，意思是成为它的"真正的家"，理解它。这非常依赖反射。我是谁？..我改
变了
?? to matter.
?? 有关紧要。

Understanding of this, transition of the energy of the STM to the physicality of the time, place
and position, becomes a priority. It becomes the truth about our lives. It becomes what we
have to understand. And to what extent can we accept this? And to what extent can we extend
this?
理解这一点，将 STM 的能量转化为时间、地点和位置的物质性，成为首要任务。它成为
了关于我们生活的真理。这就是我们必须理解的内容。我们能够接受到什么程度？我们
能够将其扩展到什么程度？

It'll be good for many of us to understand there is much more ?? beyond, and ?? behind in the
depth of the universe. Then in this village of man we call, "Earth." How do we react? How do we
go? How do we change? What happens even if I come from Africa and I land in China. I don't
know the language, or do I feel the language? I speak through the emotion, I understand the
culture through the understanding of the culture of the Soul.
对我们许多人来说，了解宇宙深处的更多事物和背后的更多事物将是有益的。然后在这个
我们称之为“地球”的人类村庄中。我们如何反应？我们该怎么走？我们如何改变？即使
我来自非洲，降落在中国，会发生什么呢？我不懂这种语言，或者说我感受不到这种语言
的存在？我通过情感说话，通过理解灵魂的文化来理解文化。

We need to learn this, we need to understand this, as in the depth of the universe, (:32). there
are no languages, school, classes to go to, and there are no evening classes to go and learn
languages. Learning, communication, has to be natural, second course, second life of the man.
Does not matter where man lives and where man will go. And to what extent man will tend to
extend his knowledge to this limit. We sit in the room, we have
我们需要学习这个，我们需要理解这个，就像宇宙的深处一样，（：32）。没有语言，学
校，班级可以去，也没有晚上的课程可以去学习语言。学习、交流必须是自然的，是人类
的第二课程、第二生活。无论人们住在哪里，将来去哪里都无所谓。人类在多大程度上会
倾向于将自己的知识扩展到这个极限？我们坐在房间里，我们有
translators, we don't understand the emotion of the language, but we see the body language,
and the face and what the things talked about, and the translator half of the time, does not
even understand himself, what is translating, because he doesn't have the essence of our word,
in the totality of the language and in understanding the language.
翻译者们，我们不理解语言的情感，但我们看到了身体语言和面部表情，以及谈论的事
物，而翻译者有时甚至不理解自己在翻译什么，因为他没有我们的词语的本质，在整体
语言和理解语言方面。

And then you sit with something very strange and very comical. You talk about the weather,
translator speaks about how the business is. And then you look and you understand, they are
laughing. And you look, why they're laughing? You spoke about something which you thought
you understood and it was easy to translate. But, the translator does not understand the
essence of the culture in what, how you spoke, takes it as it's in dictionary.
然后你会遇到一些非常奇怪和非常滑稽的事情。你谈论天气，翻译专家谈论业务如何。
然后你看着，你理解了，他们在笑。你看，他们为什么在笑？您谈到了一些您认为自己
理解并且容易翻译的东西。但是，翻译者不理解文化的本质在于什么，你说话的方式，
将其视为字典中的内容。

Can you do that with your Soul? Can you make that mistake on Mars or the Moon? How will
you handle it? Or, we still stick to the, what we call, "fallacy of the totality of understanding."
The fallacy of that, we know the fallacy of, we've done it, we should be able to do it. How do
we practice? You know that in the word of computer, you have a sandbox you can practice.
(:34). Where do we practice this on Earth? How we, as scientists, create that sandbox, for you
as the citizens, to be able to go through that transition, to go through that phase, to go through
that testing.
你的灵魂能做到这一点吗？你能在火星或月球上犯同样的错误吗？你将如何处理这个问
题？或者，我们仍然坚持所谓的"全面理解的谬论"。我们知道这个谬论的谬论，我们已
经做过了，我们应该能够做到。我们如何实践？你知道在计算机的世界里，你有一个沙
盒可以练习。(: 34).我们在地球上哪里可以实践这个？作为科学家，我们如何创建这个
沙盒，让你们作为公民能够经历这个过渡，经历这个阶段，经历这个测试。

We make you so many pools, as Alekz did in Nigeria. One pool is the feeling and the emotion
and the sense of the Mars, and one pool is emotion and feeling of the another planet in the
universe. What pool? How do we teach each other? But you got to understand, in the world of
the man, the pool has the water. And we connect ourselves to it. In the pools of the upcoming
sessions of man to learn, these are pools of fields, magnetic fields, gravitational fields,
plasmatic fields. And to what extent would we be able to know how to tune and which ?? pool
to land in?
我们给你们做了很多水池，就像阿莱克斯在尼日利亚做的一样。一个池塘是火星的感
觉、情感和意义，另一个池塘是宇宙中另一个星球的情感和感觉。什么池子？我们如何
互相教导？但你必须明白，在人类的世界里，水池有水。而我们与之相连。在即将到来
的人类学习会议的池中，这些是场的池，磁场，引力场，等离子场。我们能够知道如何
调谐和落入哪个池塘的程度是多少？

These is what is on the card, this is what we are setting up now, to get to this understanding,
this is what now we are setting up, to create that condition. This is an upcoming session of the
teaching. A ?? whole session, a pool of knowledge, a pool of emotion, a pool of understanding
the totality of the transition. But, the most interesting part for many of you Knowledge Seekers
will be, Can we do it in a mass? Can we, as a family, decide we're going to the park in the center
of Tehran, and one of us turns up on the top of a building in New York, because there was a
mis-emotion. How do we tune Souls, that we all end up in the same place, with the same
dream, with the same understanding? (:36). All this needs to be taught to the man. In a
physical life, we hold each other's hand, not to get lost in the crowd. How do we connect our
Souls together, that we end up in the same place?
这就是卡片上的内容，这就是我们现在正在建立的，为了达到这种理解，这就是我们现
在正在建立的，为了创造那种条件。这是即将开始的教学课程。一个完整的会话，一个
知识池，一个情感池，一个理解过渡的整体。但是，对于你们许多知识追求者来说，最
有趣的部分将是，我们能够大规模地做到吗？作为一个家庭，我们能否决定去德黑兰市
中心的公园，而我们中的一个人却出现在纽约的一座大楼顶上，因为有一个错误的情
感。我们如何调谐灵魂，以至于我们最终都会到达同一个地方，拥有同样的梦想，同样
的理解？(: 36).所有这些都需要教给这个人。在现实生活中，我们牵着彼此的手，不让
自己在人群中迷失方向。我们如何将我们的灵魂连接在一起，以至于我们最终到达同一
个地方？

One of the interesting things which man will learn, is very simple. And you will understand how
to hold hands, how to be connected. This brings a totality, a new subject, a new understanding,
of connection of fields. Look at the structure of the universe. Look at the structure of the life,
how do the planetary system connect to each other. But follow the rules of the plasma. Follow
rules of the interaction of the fields. The best teacher for man is the Creation. And the Creation
to be understood by his true sense, not by matter
人类将会学到的有趣事情之一，非常简单。你将会理解如何握手，如何相互连接。这带来
了一个整体性，一个新的主题，对场的连接的新的理解。看看宇宙的结构。看看生命的结
构，行星系统是如何相互连接的。但要遵循等离子体的规则。遵循场的相互作用规则。对
于人类来说，最好的老师就是创造力。创造应该通过其真正的意义来理解，而不是通过物
质。
sense. Otherwise, man will fall from another, what I call, "pigeon hole of ignorance." Another
one way we have done, in many parts of the physics and understanding, ?? are lacking on this
planet.
否则，人类将从另一个我所称之为"无知的鸽笼"中堕落。在物理学和理解的许多领域，
我们在这个星球上存在着缺失。

Look at the universe, what you see. Look at your solar system, what do you understand? Very
interesting. Look at the Sun. The Sun is moving in which direction? Then you go by the law of
physics. North Pole connects to the South Pole. And understand that the opposite polarity of
the field forces has to create dimension of field.
看看宇宙，你看到了什么。看看你的太阳系，你理解了什么？非常有趣。看太阳。太阳朝
着哪个方向移动？然后你按照物理定律行事。北极连接到南极。并且要理解场的相反极性
必须创造场的维度。

In a very interesting way. Which way does Earth move? But Earth itself is connected with a
stronger field to the Moon. (:38). Which way does Moon moves? Then you understand, how
you have to connect the Soul of your son, your wife, your lover and your dog, that you all fall,
end up in one place. Nature of the Creation teaches you, natural process of the Creation
teaches you. And as we said many time, how can we change clockwise to anticlockwise? Why
does our system stops and reverses direction of motion?
以一种非常有趣的方式。地球是朝哪个方向移动的？但地球本身与月球有着更强的连
接。(: 38)。月亮是朝哪个方向移动的？那么你就明白，你必须将你儿子、妻子、爱人
和狗的灵魂连接起来，让你们都最终到达同一个地方。创造的本质教导你，创造的自然
过程教导你。正如我们多次所说，我们如何将顺时针变为逆时针？为什么我们的系统会
停止并改变运动方向？

How do you better the STM, that instead of approaching, we create distance from one another.
How do you create two fields at the same time that your gravitational matches to the Earth and
your magnetical rejects the surface of the Moon? And these are the "tests of time." These are
the tests of the scientists, the Knowledge Seekers of the future to open up. In opening up new
dimensions, in opening up the new structures, in opening to understand the plasma as a parallel
science and technology, in respect to the matter state. It's time for us to understand the
Creation, the world of Creation and dimension of fields.
你如何改善 STM，而不是接近，我们要彼此保持距离。如何同时创造出两个场，一个与地
球的引力匹配，一个与月球表面的磁场相斥？而这些就是“时间的考验”。这些是未来科
学家、知识追求者的测试，用来开启未来的知识。在开启新的维度、开启新的结构、开启
对等离子体作为一门平行科学和技术的理解方面。是我们理解创造、创造世界和场域维度
的时候了。

The teaching is not to show you, systems. The teaching is to enlighten you, to give you a new
direction and dimension, to bring in the Totality. As I said to one of the, what I call,
这个教导不是为了展示给你看，而是系统。教导是为了启发你，给你一个新的方向和维
度，引入整体性。正如我对其中一个人所说的那样，我称之为
?? (top) man of the science very recently, "God has no patent. How do you want us to patent
His work?” Does patent worth anything on the Moon? (:40). And has the patent submitted on
Earth has any value in ?? the universe? Then what the heck are we patenting? Why are we
limiting the knowledge of the Creation to pieces of papers and computers which worth
nothing, a few meters above this planet. If man learns to teach unconditionally, the way we do.
If man learns to teach directly, the way we do, there is no need for patent, because then, we
set the patent of the Creation in the STM, in the dimension of physicality, and understanding of
the Totality of the Creation.
??(顶级)科学家最近说，上帝没有专利。你希望我们如何为他的工作申请专利？在月球
上专利有价值吗？(: 40)。地球上提交的专利在宇宙中有任何价值吗？那我们到底在申
请什么专利？为什么我们把对创造的认识局限于一些毫无价值的纸张和计算机，它们只
是在这个星球上方几米的地方。如果人类学会无条件地教导，就像我们所做的那样。如
果人类学会像我们这样直接教导，就不需要专利，因为那样，我们将在物质层面的 STM
中设立创造的专利，并理解创造的整体性。

What this means is, (it) means we understand how interaction with the fields has led to the
creation of the Creator. And then we understand how we as created, become to be created
from the interaction of the same fields. Is that field the Sun? And is our Soul Earth? Or is it one
of the satellites which is connected to the dimension of the bigger planet system which we
don't see?
这意味着，我们理解与领域的互动如何导致了创造者的产生。然后我们明白，我们是如
何被创造的，是如何通过相同领域的互动而被创造的。那个领域是太阳吗？我们的灵魂
是地球吗？还是它是连接到我们看不见的更大行星系统的卫星之一？

How does our Soul position itself in respect to the position of the Creator? How many
intermediaries, magnetic fields, and pattern of the shape of the galaxies and universes is
between us and the Creator? Is the point of enlightenment comes when we are in the opposite
direction? Motion doesn't matter how many intermediaries as with the Creator,
我们的灵魂如何与造物主的位置相对应？在我们和造物主之间有多少中介、磁场和星系和
宇宙的形状模式？当我们朝相反的方向前进时，启蒙的关键点是什么？运动并不在乎有多
少中间人，就像创造者一样。
or in the same direction as Creator. What do we get when we travel in the opposite way?
Reflection ?? , the release of energy, in the dimension of creation. (:42).
或者与创造者朝着同一个方向。当我们以相反的方式旅行时，我们会得到什么？反
思？？，在创造的维度中释放能量。(: 42)。

One of the biggest things which I have already explained, and it's very hard for a lot of
Knowledge Seekers, even scientists to understand, is that the interaction of the fields, two
plasmatic fields as friction, creates fields in the upper atmosphere with the Inertia changes to
matter. What is the interaction of our Soul with the other Souls that we don't see? What
plasmatic fields, the dimension of the dynamic STM creates with the other Souls crossing the
street, being on ?? another planet. The way without knowing, creating plasmatic fields, we have
to, but because it's so minute, it's so small, we have come to ?? create, to ignore it, because we
have no knowledge of it. The ignorance comes from a lack of what we call, understanding.
我已经解释过的最重要的事情之一，对于很多寻求知识的人，甚至科学家来说，理解两个
等离子场之间的相互作用，就像摩擦一样，在上层大气中产生了惯性变化为物质的场。我
们的灵魂与我们看不见的其他灵魂之间有什么互动？动态 STM 的维度与其他穿越街道的灵
魂创造了什么等离子场，它们在另一个星球上？我们不知道的方式，创造等离子场，我们
必须这样做，但因为它是如此微小，如此小，我们已经开始创造，忽视它，因为我们对它
一无所知。无知源于我们所称之为理解的缺乏。

Then it comes to a lot of points, why these plasmas are created? Why these interactions of the
plasmas of, interaction of our plasma, our Soul, with another, create an invisible fields of
plasmas, which we have ?? not ?? (understood or knew about). Are those plasmas at any time
created? You cross on the man on the street, your Soul is dynamic, his Soul is dynamic.
Somewhere in the fields they interact. What happens in that ?? fields? The interaction of the
fields of the Earth and the Sun creates the day light. What is the interaction of our Soul with
another Soul passing next? (It) does not matter if our physicality is a meter away, or we rub
shoulder to shoulder with each other.
然后涉及到很多问题，为什么会有这些冲突产生？为什么我们的等离子体与另一个等离子
体的相互作用会产生我们不了解的无形等离子体场？这些等离子体是否随时被创造出来？
你在街上遇到一个人，你的灵魂是活跃的，他的灵魂也是活跃的。他们在田野中相互交
流。那个领域会发生什么？地球和太阳的场的相互作用产生了白昼。我们的灵魂与另一个
经过的灵魂有什么互动？无论我们的身体距离是一米还是肩并肩，都无关紧要。

As I explained to you many a time, if you have a child, if you have a lover, hold them next to you
and see how you feel their emotion through their, (:44). what I call, the Soul, not the dimension
of physicality. Do you see a light? And what is the expansion of this light? What is the extraction
of this light to the dimension of physicality explains to you about your emotion with what you
hold. We feel, "oh, he's holding me tight. Oh, he's holding me, loving me. Oh, he's holding me
the way I could dream." But you're looking into the Soul. (While) the guy is thinking about the
other lover. I'm just the object of the affection from the another. But is it truly love? And then,
next time when the lover holds you, and ?? you know what it is, you feel that he knows how to
hold you. Is it true love, the true affection? Because you feel a tightness or a pressure, and you
think he loves me? Or is it actually the ?? rubbing of the Souls? And you recognize I'm loved.
The truth, the true understanding.
正如我多次向您解释的那样，如果您有一个孩子，如果您有一个爱人，请将他们紧紧拥抱
在身边，感受他们的情感，通过他们的灵魂，而不是肉体的维度。你看到了光吗？这种光
的扩展是什么？这种光线从物质层面提取出来，它对你所持有的情感有何解释。我们感觉
到，“哦，他紧紧地抓住我。”哦，他抱着我，爱着我。哦，他抱着我，就像我梦想的那
样。但你正在注视着灵魂。（当）那个人在想着另一个恋人。我只是另一个人的感情对
象。但这是真爱吗？然后，下次当恋人拥抱你时，你会知道这是什么感觉，你会感觉到他
知道如何拥抱你。是真爱吗，真情感？因为你感到紧张或压力，你觉得他爱我吗？或者它
实际上是灵魂的摩擦吗？你知道我被爱着。真相，真正的理解。
Then you understand, even the life, everyday life, our interaction with our partners, with our
lovers, with our children, with our parents, with our friends, with the society will change.
Because we'll become wise to the dimension, dimension of physicality, and the dimension of
the Soul. And this is what all these teachings are, to open you up to ?? deepen, to understand
the interaction of the fields.
然后你会明白，即使是生活，日常生活，我们与伴侣、爱人、孩子、父母、朋友、社会
的互动也会改变。因为我们将变得对物质维度和灵魂维度有智慧。而这就是所有这些教
导的目的，让你打开心扉，深入理解场的相互作用。

This become important for you, because you will understand why, in the space technology. You
want to go to the planet. And through the emotion of the Soul, it tells you all the energy you
carry, where you come from. This planet is dangerous. (:46). It can create your demise. Or a
planet welcomes you, because your fields is the same as it is. And brings in ?? power . It
brings ??, it brings in ??. Then you understand. What we
这对你来说变得很重要，因为你将理解为什么在太空技术中。你想去那个星球。通过灵
魂的情感，它告诉你携带的所有能量，以及你来自哪里。这个星球很危险。(: 46)。它
可能导致你的死亡。或者一个星球欢迎你，因为你的领域与它一样。并带来了什么力
量。它带来了??，它带来了??. 然后你就明白了。我们
tell you to understand, to explanation of the lover and the child and all that, is not the same as
you think about the physicality. It's to open your eyes, in where you learn ?? about ?? your Soul.
Is it good for you? Or who you come across as a fields of the plasma, is it, in a way, life for you?
Or is it a demise for you and your Soul?
告诉你理解，解释爱人和孩子以及所有这些的方式，与你对物质世界的想法不同。它是为
了让你睁开眼睛，了解你的灵魂。对你来说好吗？或者你认为等离子体的领域是你的生命
吗？或者对你和你的灵魂来说，这是一种灭亡吗？

The teaching of the Keshe Foundation is not about the lovers and about the interaction of the
physicality, it's about to compare, to understand as the man is so physical, the truth about
himself, in the dimension of the Soul, in the dimension of physicality of existence. Then this
teaches you ?? , in space, this does not feel good. This is not a place for me, because most of
the spectral of the energies are ?? created ??. I can give, is more than this planet can take. I can
put it in danger, one of the creature in touch in front of me, or I become, it becomes dangerous
to me, that it can endanger my condition of life as a plasma.
凯史基金会的教学不是关于爱人和物质实体的互动，而是要比较、理解人是如此物质的真
相，是在灵魂的维度中，在物质存在的维度中。然后这教会你什么？在太空中，这感觉不
好。这对我来说不是一个适合的地方，因为大部分能量的光谱是由??创造的。我可以给予
的超过这个星球所能承受的。我可以将其置于危险之中，成为我面前接触的生物之一，或
者我变成它，它对我来说变得危险，它可能危及我作为等离子体的生存状态。

Then you understand. Life in deep space takes a different meaning, if you understand it in
dimension of physicality, but test it here. Next time, when you hold your lover, and he or she
holds you tight, and he or she tells you, "I love you", and you feel the pressure, and the love, and
the tightness, and the joy you want to give back. (:48). Can I feel the Soul? Is he really squeezing
me, or the ex-lover, or the girl (he) is being with, or man is being with ??. Or he likes to be (with
me), I'm just a replacement, or is it the true love?
然后你就会明白。如果你从物质层面理解，深空生活就有了不同的意义，但在这里进行测
试。下一次，当你拥抱你的爱人，他或她紧紧地拥抱着你，他或她告诉你：“我爱你”，
你感受到压力、爱、紧密和你想回报的喜悦。（：48）。我能感受到灵魂吗？他是真的在
逼迫我，还是前任情人，或者是他正在和女孩在一起，或者是男人在一起？。或者他喜欢
和我在一起，我只是一个替代品，或者这是真爱吗？

Do I feel the interaction of the Souls? Do I take and do I give? Do I enlighten him with mine?
And don't forget, he knows the same as you do. We cannot lie to each other. This is where
most of the relationships on this planet falls apart. Because man always know and interaction
of physicality, but does not see the dimension of fields interaction of the STM, the creator of
the man. In space we have to be aware of it. As I always say, "you have no choice, you're in it."
You better understand it, or you will not be in it, because there's nothing of you left to be part
of it.
我能感受到灵魂之间的互动吗？我拿还是给？我是否用我的爱启迪他？而且别忘了，他
知道和你一样多。我们不能彼此欺骗。这就是为什么这个星球上的大多数关系会破裂的
地方。因为人类总是知道和物质的互动，但看不到 STM 的场相互作用的维度，这是人类
的创造者。在太空中，我们必须意识到这一点。正如我经常说的那样，“你别无选择，
你就在其中。”你最好明白这一点，否则你将无法参与其中，因为你已经没有任何东西
可以成为其中的一部分。

Then it comes in the process. In the next coming times, what feeling, what emotion, what colors
and interaction of the fields means to me and my Soul ?? . This way you start in a way,
"calibrating the Soul." What feelings of what dimension of the emotion and interaction means
to me? And this is like, I hear a shouting, I hear a talk, I hear a whisper, I hear no noise, and what
does each one means to me? This emotion of this level means danger, this level of emotion to
the Soul, means life, this level means I'm in danger in some way. (:50). And so ?? we learn, we
understand, we extend and we expand.
然后它就在过程中出现了。在接下来的时代中，场域的感觉、情绪、颜色和互动对我和我
的灵魂意味着什么？这样你就开始以某种方式"校准灵魂"。情感和互动的维度对我意味着
什么？而且，我听到喊叫声，我听到谈话声，我听到低语声，我听不到噪音，每个声音对
我意味着什么？这种情感的程度意味着危险，这种情感对灵魂来说意味着生命，这种程度
意味着我以某种方式处于危险之中。(: 50)。于是我们学习，理解，扩展和拓展。

Then in that process, we learn about the travel of the Soul, the expansion of the Soul, the
understanding of the Soul, And in that process, to what extent do we understand about
ourselves, about our Soul, about the creation of the man, and about the manifestation of the
man in every dimension, in every level of the existence? Man is made in the image of the
Creator, when the man is Creator himself. Now, what do you create? How do you interact with
your own creation? And what does your creation means to you in essence of the emotion of the
STM, it's energy levels, not dimension of physicality. As you cuddle your child, the child says,
"mom, you're strangling me, you're squeezing too tight." Where you want to show your love,
and your child feels losing life, because you're too
然后在这个过程中，我们了解到灵魂的旅行，灵魂的扩展，灵魂的理解。在这个过程中，
我们对自己、对我们的灵魂、对人类的创造以及人类在存在的每个维度、每个层面上的显
现有多少了解？人类是按照造物主的形象创造的，当人类本身成为造物主时。现在，你创
造了什么？你如何与自己的创作互动？对于 STM 的情感而言，你的创造对你来说意味着什
么，它是能量层面，而不是物质层面的维度。当你拥抱你的孩子时，孩子说：“妈妈，你
把我勒死了，你太紧了。”当你想要展示你的爱时，你的孩子感到失去了生命，因为你太
过于……
strong for it. It cannot take in the dimension of physicality. You've forgotten about your
strength. Or, for a ??, you are a very beautiful, slim person and the partner is a giant and he
squeezes you. He shows his love, but you're losing your breath.
我们为此感到强大。它无法理解物质的维度。你忘记了你的力量。或者，对于一个人来
说，你是一个非常漂亮、苗条的人，而你的伴侣是一个巨人，他把你挤压。他表达了他
的爱，但你却喘不过气来。

Then you understand, this is the same in the dimension of the creation, in the STM. Is the fields
I come in touch with, to embrace. Is it good for me? I don't look at the size of it, I look at the
strength of it. If it's the dimension of my life, is it good for me to receive and do I have enough
to give? Then we understand the position of love, (:52). the position of understanding of life in
space takes a new dimension. While we are getting squeezed to be loved, to be held, to be
loved, we are looking in the dimension of the Soul. Don't forget, the ears are next to each other
and the Souls are connected and interacting. Now we read two messages, one in the dimension
of the Soul, and one in the dimension of physicality. And this will bring you a new dimension of
life.
那么你明白，在创造的维度中，这是相同的，在 STM 中。我接触到的领域，是要去拥抱
的。对我有好处吗？我不看它的大小，我看它的力量。如果这是我生活的维度，那么接
受对我有好处吗？我是否有足够的能力给予？然后我们就能理解爱的位置，(:52)。对于
生命在空间中的理解将获得新的维度。当我们被迫渴望被爱，被拥抱，被爱，我们正在
寻找灵魂的维度。别忘了，耳朵是相邻的，灵魂是相连并相互作用的。现在我们读到了
两条信息，一条是在灵魂的维度上，一条是在物质的维度上。而这将给你带来新的生活
维度。

Try it next time. Put your ear and head next to your lover when he or she is asleep, and see with
thoughts, how you can wake her up. With ?? no thoughts, with whatever you think, and see if it
says, does the bell rings. Can you tell her, I love you, ?? can you ?? hold me to the dimension of
the STP. And next morning she wakes up, says, I had a dream you were holding me and telling
me ??. Try it. It has a beautiful, it has a wonderful effect. I've done it many times. I do that with
my children quite often when they're little. And it's amazing. We don't wake them up to wake
up. ?? You just put your hand near them and you will ?? turn love through the Soul. That it's
time to get the physicality ??.
下次试试吧。当你的爱人入睡时，把你的耳朵和头靠近他或她，用思维感受如何唤醒她。
没有思想，无论你怎么想，看看它是否说，铃声响了。你能告诉她，我爱你吗？你能抓住
我到 STP 的维度吗？第二天早上她醒来，说，我梦见你抱着我告诉我什么了。试试看吧。
它有一个美丽的，它有一个奇妙的效果。我已经做过很多次了。当他们还小的时候，我经
常和我的孩子们一起做这件事。这真是令人惊叹。我们不是为了叫醒他们而叫醒他们。??
你只需把手靠近它们，你就会通过灵魂转变爱。是时候开始实体化了吗？
And they just sit up and stand up and sit on the bed. And you look at their eyes and ?? die for
the first time. It opens at the first beautiful thing she sees, it ?? mean your ?? healthy. It is the
first thing that you can carry the Soul of the, the message of your love, through the eye, through
the Soul. (:54).
他们只是坐起来、站起来，然后坐在床上。当你看着他们的眼睛时，你会第一次感到……
死亡。它在她看到的第一件美丽的事物时打开，这意味着你的健康。这是你可以通过眼
睛、灵魂传递灵魂和爱的信息的第一件事。(: 54)。

Next time, when you're lying next to your lover or your child, lie there and wake them up
through your Soul. And watch when their eyes opens, and you feel the emotion of the Soul, as
the first flashes of the Soul, trying to come into balance. And then you understand, how man
will travel the depth of the space, with the children and lovers and the others.
下次，当你躺在你的爱人或孩子旁边时，通过你的灵魂唤醒他们。当他们的眼睛睁开时，
你会感受到灵魂的情感，就像灵魂的第一道闪光，试图达到平衡。然后你会明白，人类将
如何与孩子、爱人和其他人一起探索太空的深处。
Now you understand, what it was said from the beginning. "Thy shall not lie." Now you
understand what exactly means, as it's you who actually deprives yourself, not to be able to
interact, not to be able to live in the dimension of the energy of the man, and not the
dimension of physicality.
现在你明白了，从一开始就是什么被说了出来。"你不可撒谎。"现在你明白了什么是真
正的意思，因为实际上是你自己剥夺了自己的能力，无法互动，无法生活在人类能量的
维度中，而不是物质世界的维度。

Now you understand what the teaching of today is about. And I hope you understand when we
put you in the cycle of these processes, in the next few weeks and months, you are ready for it.
Don't forget, we are not a religious cults, and we are not those who do ?? funny things. We test
the dimension of true cycle of life, true existence, by understanding the value of the love, the
love of the man, and the world of the Creation.
现在你明白了今天的教导是关于什么的。我希望你们明白，当我们将你们置于这些进程的
循环中时，在接下来的几周和几个月里，你们要为此做好准备。不要忘记，我们不是一个
宗教邪教，我们也不是那些做滑稽事情的人。通过理解爱的价值、人类的爱以及创造的世
界，我们测试真实生命、真实存在的维度。
We go for a small break and we come back, and then we are ready to answer any questions.
Rick, if you like to take us through your normal advertising, please. And then it gives us a
chance to break up in the next session.
我们稍作休息，然后回来，准备回答任何问题。Rick，如果你愿意介绍一下你的常规广
告，请。然后它给了我们在下一次会议中分解的机会。

<< Break >> 499 KSW August 17, 2023 (1:02).

<<中断>> 2023 年 8 月 17 日 499 KSW（1:02）。

K- Yes, ready, willing, I hope, ready. I don't know about that. But yes, we can try.
K- 是的，准备好了，愿意的，我希望准备好了。我不知道那个。但是，是的，我们可以尝
试。

R: Okay, would you like to take questions now, or is there something else you'd like to say
before that?
R:好的，现在你想回答问题吗，还是在此之前还有其他事情要说？

K- No, it's interesting what you showed us, part of the new space systems. We are entering a
new era in the world of Creation. And entering a new era in understanding the energy side of
the world of Creation and the matter side. And it's important for us to be very clear about this. I
was explaining this, and I explained this before, in the last teaching, and we try to go back on it
every now and then, that for Knowledge Seekers and the newcomers to understand.
K- 不，你给我们展示的东西很有趣，是新的太空系统的一部分。我们正在进入创造的新
时代。并进入了对创造世界的能量面和物质面的新认识时代。对于我们来说，非常清楚
这一点是很重要的。我之前在上一次教学中已经解释过这个问题，我们会不时回顾一
下，以便让寻求知识的人和新来者能够理解。

We're not talking about separate thing, with the Keshe Foundation technology. We are talking
about the energy side of the life, which we have ignored. Energy side of the Creation, where in
the life of the man, we deal with the physicality of the man, the car, the hand, the table, the
chair, the food, where we have ignored the fields of the universe, which keeps the planetary
system apart. The fields of the universe, which creates the separation of ourselves from each
other. The fields of our plasma of life, which even separates our Soul from our physicality, even
though it is entrapped with it.
我们不是在谈论单独的事情，与凯舍基金会的技术。我们正在谈论生命的能量方面，这
是我们忽视的。创造的能量方面，在人的生活中，我们处理人的物质性，汽车，手，桌
子，椅子，食物，我们忽视了宇宙的领域，这使得行星系统分离。宇宙的领域创造了我
们彼此之间的分离。我们生命的等离子体领域，甚至将我们的灵魂与我们的物质分离，
尽管它与之相连。

So, we are not creating something new. (1:04). We are understanding what is there, who has
kept us apart. We knew about it, but we ignored it. Now we are trying to understand the
system, its technology. And in that way, we see the Totality. In that way, we come to
understand what we call, the two parts of the Creation, the matter side and the field side. Up to
now, we went through Newton. We went with, God knows, every science of understanding the
speed, the rotation, that God knows angles and distances. Now we have
所以，我们并没有创造出新的东西。( 1: 04)。我们正在理解那些使我们分离的事物和
人。我们知道这件事，但我们忽视了它。现在我们正在努力理解这个系统，它的技术。通
过这种方式，我们看到了整体性。通过这种方式，我们开始理解我们所称之为创造的两个
部分，物质方面和场方面。到目前为止，我们经历了牛顿。我们使用了各种科学，包括速
度、旋转、角度和距离的理解，只有上帝知道。现在我们有了
to understand about the strength. Now we have to understand about the interaction of the
fields. Because this strength and these interactions, and the strength of the change creates the
dimension of separation between the Earth and the Moon, between the cell of your heart in
one layer to the other.
了解力量的含义。现在我们必须了解场的相互作用。因为这种力量和这些互动，以及变化
的力量在地球和月球之间，以及在你心脏细胞的一层与另一层之间创造了分离的维度。

Those cells, that Moon, that Earth, that Sun, what keeps them separate from each other? We
always talked about it, you never understood. Now we have to understand. Earth moves around
the Sun. But what keeps Earth moving around the Sun? What keeps it in constant speed and
constant distance? The fields, magnetic fields of the two systems. The field strength of the two.
In the world of science, we have ignored that. And with the plasma technology, we can ?? cover
it. So, the knowledge is complete.
那些细胞，那个月亮，那个地球，那个太阳，是什么使它们彼此分离？我们一直在谈论
它，你从来没有理解。现在我们必须理解。地球绕着太阳运动。但是是什么让地球绕着太
阳运动？是什么使它保持恒定的速度和恒定的距离？这两个系统的场，磁场。两者的场
强。在科学的世界里，我们忽视了这一点。而且通过等离子技术，我们可以覆盖它。所
以，知识是完整的。

I am the Moon, or I am the Sun, and I sit so much distance from the Sun, (1:06). or from the Earth.
What dictates this separation? What dictates in what position, in what speed, I rotate around it,
or around myself? If you don't have energy, how do you want to run? If you are not rotating to
create fields interaction, how do you want to rotate around another field? So what is the
principle of the motion? You don't have legs. We accepted Earth rotates. We accepted the Sun
rotates. We accepted that we rotate around the Sun. But we always ignored the fields which are
creator of this separation, distance, speed. And the Keshe Plasma Technology is about this.
我是月亮，或者我是太阳，我离太阳（1:06）或地球有很远的距离。是什么决定了这种分
离？是什么决定我以什么位置、以什么速度绕它或绕我自己旋转？如果你没有精力，你怎
么能跑呢？如果你不旋转来产生场的相互作用，你想如何围绕另一个场旋转？那么运动的
原则是什么？你没有腿。我们接受地球自转。我们接受太阳是旋转的。我们接受了我们围
绕太阳旋转的事实。但我们总是忽视了创造这种分离、距离和速度的领域。而凯西等离子
技术就是关于这个的。

The connection lines, the separation lines. What creates and how much of it creates, what
distance ?? and what separation. And does this create interaction, we call it, emotion?
连接线，分离线。是什么创造了它，它创造了多少，是什么距离？还有什么分离。这是否
会产生互动，我们称之为情感？
Then we understand, what is about this new technology? Why Keshe Foundation technology
and plasma technology are ?? pronounced so different? Because we are filling in the gap. We're
filling the gap, the distance between the Earth and the Sun. What is in this gap? How does it
exist? Why doesn't Earth stick to the Sun? And why doesn't Moon stick to the Earth? What
causes this separation and rotation? And who dictates where and how to ??. This is the Keshe
Foundation technology. This is the space technology we talk about.
那么我们明白了，这项新技术是什么意思？为什么 Keshe 基金会技术和等离子技术发音如
此不同？因为我们正在填补这个空白。我们正在填补地球和太阳之间的差距。这个间隙
里有什么？它是如何存在的？为什么地球不会黏在太阳上？为什么月球不会粘在地球
上？是什么导致了这种分离和旋转？谁决定何时何地以及如何？？这就是凯西基金会的
技术。这就是我们谈论的太空技术。

You are happy with your rocket. We are happy how to get the rocket where you want to be.
(1:08). As this way, using the field interaction, by putting a rocket fuel in the back, like the
Chinese ?? fireworks. This is what the new technology is. Understanding the interaction of the
fields, the knowledge of the gap, between the entities, what has dictated it, what is creating it,
what is maintaining it, and what strength gives, what maintains, what gap. If you understand
this, then you see, the picture is complete.
你对你的火箭很满意。我们很高兴能够将火箭送到您想要的地方。(1:08)。通过使用场的
相互作用，像中国的烟花一样，在后方加入火箭燃料。这就是新技术的意义所在。理解场
的相互作用，了解实体之间的差距，是什么决定了它，是什么创造了它，是什么维持了
它，以及什么力量给予了它维持和差距。如果你理解了这一点，那么你会看到，画面是完
整的。

The science of knowledge of the Creation in the universe, when you have a matter, you know,
why it's there, what is the gap of it, why it creates 24 hours rotation, and why do we go
around the Sun, and in all that time, what is in between us and it, and why do we see all
these changes.
对于宇宙中的创造的知识科学，当你有一个物质时，你知道它为什么存在，它的差距是
什么，为什么它会产生 24 小时的旋转，为什么我们绕着太阳转，而在这段时间里，我
们和它之间有什么，为什么我们看到所有这些变化。

The same is the STM. Why do we have a separation with another Soul? How do we interact
with the Soul? How fast? How much enlightenment? In what strength our Soul is, that
understands more, sees more of? Or why strength of our Soul is not there to
STM 也是如此。为什么我们与另一个灵魂分离？我们如何与灵魂互动？有多快？有多少启
迪？我们的灵魂有多强大，能够理解更多，看到更多？或者为什么我们的灵魂的力量不
在那里
understand? Is it the consumption of adding more fields on it, because it's dynamic? The way
we do. If you understand it, as I explained before, you're a scientist and maybe you understand
more of today about yourself.
明白吗？这是因为它是动态的，所以需要添加更多字段的消耗吗？我们的方式。如果您
理解了它，就像我之前解释的那样，您就是一位科学家，也许您对自己有更多的了解。

But we speak about the dynamic reactors. We say, we have a control, we can add and ??
exchange it, so we can create different magnetic fields, so we have ?? different magnets of
everything. Where up to now it was only magnet of metals. Now we have the capability to
adjust the field strength of our reactors. So we can expand the fields, we can reduce the fields,
we can create different fields, or whatever. Isn't that enlightenment? (1:10). Isn't this what
man does by eating different foods, by adding knowledge? Does the knowledge brings
enlightenment, or does the food you eat allows you to be enlightened, that you understand
more? Who's adjusting the filter of your knowledge?
但我们谈论的是动态反应堆。我们说，我们有控制权，我们可以添加和交换它，所以我
们可以创建不同的磁场，所以我们有了不同的磁铁。到目前为止，它只是金属的磁铁。
现在我们有能力调整反应堆的场强。所以我们可以扩展领域，减少领域，创建不同的领
域，或者其他。那不就是启蒙吗？( 1: 10)。这不就是人们通过食用不同的食物、增加
知识所做的吗？知识是否带来启迪，或者你所吃的食物是否让你开悟，让你更加理解？
谁在调整你的知识过滤器？
Who's adjusting the feed of the material into your Soul, that you create more lights and you
become enlightened?
是谁调整物质进入你的灵魂，让你创造更多的光明，让你变得开明？

Now you understand the knowledge of Creation is the same. Be it the Earth and the Sun, be it
the two reactors, or be it the STM. If you're not facing it, how can you see the light? And when
you pass it, you're on the dark side, because you're not interacting. But it doesn't mean you're
the dark side in respect to the Sun. But are you on the dark side in respect to the Moon? Are
you on the dark side in respect about another entity? Or are you creating lights with it? So in
each direction, you create different lights according to what fields you interact. Now we
understand, the knowledge of the plasma, is the knowledge of Creation, the fields in between.
The understanding of the interaction of the fields, which creates condition of separation, for
matter state, or plasma state, or another bunch of plasmas.
现在你明白了创造的知识是相同的。无论是地球和太阳，无论是两个反应堆，还是 STM。
如果你不面对它，你怎么能看到光？当你通过它时，你处于黑暗面，因为你没有互动。但
这并不意味着你对太阳是黑暗面。但是对于月亮来说，你是在黑暗面吗？你对另一个实体
的情况了解得多吗？或者你是用它来创造光线吗？所以在每个方向上，根据您与之交互的
领域，您会创建不同的光线。现在我们理解，等离子体的知识就是创造的知识，就是之间
的场。对场的相互作用的理解，它创造了物质状态、等离子体状态或其他一堆等离子体的
条件。

The most beautiful subject in the world is physics, if you understand it. But, the most beautiful
subject in the world is the interaction of magnetic fields, and their plasma. As I always said, life
doesn't start with matter, life starts with the fields. Interaction of the fields creates a plasma,
interaction of the plasmas creates physics, and interaction of the two plasmas of physics creates
chemistry, and then multiply with its biology and multiply of it, is the essence of enlightenment
of the Soul. (1:12). And then when enough Souls interact and work together, become the Soul of
the Creator.
世界上最美丽的主题是物理学，如果你理解它的话。但是，世界上最美丽的主题是磁场的
相互作用及其等离子体。正如我一直说的，生命不是从物质开始，而是从场域开始。场的
相互作用产生等离子体，等离子体的相互作用产生物理学，物理学中两个等离子体的相互
作用产生化学，然后与其生物学相乘，这是灵魂启蒙的本质。(1:12)。当足够多的灵魂互
动和共同努力时，它们将成为创造者的灵魂。
And this is what ?? has been said from beginning to the end. We understand the Totality. We
understand the beauty and the creation ?? of. We understand the Totality. We understand the
love, because we are part of that love. We created that Soul, and that Soul is us, it is created
within us. Then you understand the ?? change, the knowledge. Then you understand the clarity
of the ?? simplicity. Without the matter state, we as the plasma of ?? existence cannot confirm
anything, because we are just fields in the universe, traveling nowhere. Or, we create another
plasma, that we can confirm the existence of another ?? fields (<bad audio >). If you Knowledge
Seekers, understood in the past five minutes of teaching you have, entered, you have the key to
the world of Creation. And that will be the best thing for all of us.
而且这就是从一开始到最后所说的。我们理解整体性。我们理解美和创造的本质。我们
理解整体性。我们理解爱，因为我们是爱的一部分。我们创造了那个灵魂，那个灵魂就
是我们，它在我们内部创造出来。然后你明白了吗？？改变，知识。然后你会理解简单
之中的清晰。没有物质状态，作为存在的等离子体，我们无法确认任何事情，因为我们
只是在宇宙中漂浮的场。或者，我们创造另一种等离子体，以证实另一种存在？？场（<
音频不清>）。如果你们这些寻求知识的人，在过去五分钟的教学中理解了进入的内容，
你们就拥有了创造世界的钥匙。这对我们所有人来说都是最好的事情。

Any questions?
有任何问题吗？
Q: … Does intelligence mean the ability that one can balance one's own fields, and can create
more field strengths through his own field strengths, and interact with other plasma?
问：…智力是指一个人能够平衡自己的场，通过自己的场强创造更多的场强，并与其他
等离子体相互作用的能力吗？

K- Can you repeat that again? You've got the answer in your own question.
K-你能再重复一遍吗?你在自己的问题中已经得到了答案。

R: It's possible, yeah. Does intelligence mean the ability that one can balance one's own fields,
(1:14). and can create more field strengths through his own field strengths, and interact with
other plasma?
R:是可能的，是的。智能是否意味着一个人可以平衡自己的领域（1:14），并通过自己
的领域强度创造更多的领域强度，并与其他等离子体进行交互？

K- What does intelligence have to do with the Totality? Or does the intelligence we call, is
enlightenment? And, the beauty of it is, that, how much of it do I understand? And how much of
it do we want to comprehend, that we have the intelligence to understand? Then, I think you'll
find the answer yourself.
K-智慧与整体有什么关系？或者我们所称的智慧就是启蒙吗？而且，最美妙的是，我有多
少理解？我们想要理解其中多少，我们有足够的智慧去理解？然后，我认为你会自己找到
答案。

Intelligence, you might understand in intelligence, knowledge of another creation, which to you
on this planet has no meaning. But when you arrive by accident, or by choice because your Soul
knows you're going to end up in this environment in the coming time, and then you
understand, you already have the knowledge you've been in, what you call it, you've been "pre-
taught." Where on Earth this had no meaning. Now for you, it has a meaning. Because then you
say, "Oh, it's deja vu.I don't know why, I've been here before." Have you been enlightened to
the knowledge of the present?
智慧，你可能会理解智慧，对你们这个星球来说，另一个创造的知识是没有意义的。但
当您偶然或出于选择来到这个环境时，因为您的灵魂知道您将在未来的时间里来到这
里，然后您会明白，您已经拥有了您所说的知识，您已经被“预先教导”了。在地球上
这没有任何意义。现在对于你们来说，它有意义了。因为你会说，“哦，这是似曾相
识。我不知道为什么，我以前来过这里。”你对现在的知识有所启迪吗？

I was with one of the Knowledge Seekers very recently. And she said, I don't feel good today.
(1:16). There is something wrong. And she doesn't feel good. And by the end of the day, it
wasn't that good. It didn't turn out the right way. And I suddenly ?? thought, this Soul knew was
going to be a bad day today, but the physicality was not aware of it. It was pre-telling about
what the Soul itself is going to do. And, in a way, it was planning the party to go on its own. To
the party. And, it was a time to confirm that. It was a time, in a physical way, to achieve, to pre-
tell, enlightenment of the Soul.
我最近和一个知识追寻者在一起。她说，我今天感觉不舒服。(1:16)。有些问题出现了。
她感觉不好。到了一天结束时，情况并不好。结果并不顺利。突然间我想到，这个灵魂知
道今天会是个糟糕的日子，但是肉体并不知道。它预先告诉了灵魂本身将要做的事情。而
且，在某种程度上，它正在计划自己继续派对。去参加派对。而且，这是确认的时刻。这
是一个时间，在物理上，去实现，去预言，灵魂的启蒙。

In a way, you stand, I'm going to the party, and this party, I'm going to wear this kind of dress,
and I'm going to behave like this. Now, the Soul has done the job. The Soul has, in a way, preset
everything, to put everything together. And, the physicality had no clue.
在某种程度上，你站在那里，我要去参加派对，这个派对上，我要穿这种裙子，我要表
现得像这样。现在，灵魂已经完成了这项工作。灵魂以某种方式预设了一切，将一切整
合在一起。而且，物质性一无所知。
But, in a way, it's a dream, you have watched it, physicality knew that the Soul is moving that
way. And, the Souls already knew, what's the outcome of this. Because that's what it was
supposed to be. Because that interaction of the Soul, that physicality representation of the
Soul, emotion, creates, it's a condition that other Souls have to interact and respond. (1:18).
And what would that respond be, would have created the next generation of disciples, which,
what they were involved in, had to be done.
但在某种程度上，这是一个梦，你们已经看到了，物质界知道灵魂是以那种方式移动的。
而且，灵魂们已经知道，这个结果是什么。因为那就是它应该是的。因为灵魂的这种相互
作用，灵魂的物质性代表，情感创造了一种条件，其他灵魂必须相互作用和回应。
(1:18)。那个回应会是什么，会创造出下一代的门徒，他们所参与的事情必须完成。

And it's amazing, you look at the condition in a physical dimension, but we look at the same
situation through the Soul, through the field, and then it has totally different meaning, different
understanding, and different purpose. And I sat back and I said, poor
令人惊奇的是，你从物理维度看待这种情况，但我们从灵魂、场域的角度看待同样的情
况，它具有完全不同的意义、理解和目的。我坐下来，我说，可怜的人
?? Chick, he didn't know what the Soul was telling him it's going to do. But, the feeling
?? 鸡，他不知道灵魂告诉他要做什么。但是，这种感觉
was that, I don't feel good, something is wrong. Because, I knew I'm going to be naughty in this
party, and my naughtiness will bring others people to do something with me, or with it, and
create a new dimension. But, none of the others Souls knew, because, I'm going to be decided
to be a naughty one in a physical dimension.
我感觉不舒服，有些不对劲。因为，我知道我在这个派对上会调皮，而我的调皮会引导其
他人和我一起做某事，或者与之一起创造一个新的维度。但是，其他灵魂都不知道，因为
我决定在一个物质维度中做一个调皮的人。

Is it enlightened? Is it preset? Or, was it agreed by the Souls who are collectively ?? work with the
Soul, that you do this, the outcome will be what it needs to be? And then with it, you find
freedom. Because now, you carried out the wishes of your Soul, but your physicality was totally
ignorant to it, till it puts you in this ?? (position). How many times you said to yourself, why did I
do this? This is not my character. Change the position.
它是启蒙的吗？它是预设的吗？或者，是由与灵魂共同工作的灵魂们商定的，你这样做的
结果将是它需要的吗？然后，你会发现自由。因为现在，你履行了灵魂的愿望，但你的身
体完全对此一无所知，直到它把你置于这个位置。你有多少次对自己说，为什么我要这样
做？这不是我的性格。改变位置。
Ah, my Soul created the condition that my physicality carry on, because the other Souls were
set to show this reaction, because of what I did physically. And then you look at the life
differently. Then you don't call it, "I don't know why I did this, (1:20). I don't understand, this is
not my character." This is the ?? arrangement of the Souls. Does not matter what your
character is, or what you do.
啊，我的灵魂创造了这个条件，让我的肉体继续存在，因为其他灵魂被设定为展示这种
反应，因为我在肉体上所做的事情。然后你会以不同的方式看待生活。然后你就不会称
之为"我不知道为什么我这样做了（1:20）"。我不明白，这不是我的性格。这是灵魂的
安排。无论你的性格如何，或者你做什么都无关紧要。

We’ll see this beautifully on the 11th of November. Many of you who’ll attend the 11th of
November, you'll be shocked in what is to come, and what is to be inspired, and what is to
bring the change.
我们将在 11 月 11 日看到这个美丽的景象。在 11 月 11 日参加的许多人将对即将发生的
事情感到震惊，并受到启发，带来改变。

It'll be interesting to see what will come out of 11th of November meeting of the ambassadors.
Would we end up, are we setting up the same for the world peace through ambassadors
negotiating during the conference, "breaking the ice," interacting of the Soul, or sets up a new
condition. As I said, it's so interesting to see how and where, and the way we will move. And
our Soul is just preset to it. But we are just there to carry out the physicality. And then we see
what the other physicality's do, which moves their Soul to a new dimension.
11 月 11 日大使会议的结果将会很有趣。我们是否会以同样的方式为世界和平设立条件，
通过大使在会议期间进行谈判，"打破僵局"，灵魂的互动，或者设立一个新的条件。正
如我所说的，看到我们将如何以及在哪里移动是如此有趣。而我们的灵魂只是对此进行
了预设。但我们只是在那里执行物质层面的任务。然后我们看看其他实体会做什么，这
将使他们的灵魂进入一个新的维度。

Is it enlightenment? Is it the education of the Soul? Or is it part of us learning about ourselves,

in both dimensions? Very interesting if you understand it. And very interesting to see here, I am
just a pawn in the game of Souls, and we thought, you're setting up the game for the Souls to
interact. But you actually yourself, you're played up by the Souls to carry out the physicality and
the things we're going to ?? do for it, (1:22). for the change of dimension of the existence.
是启蒙吗？这是灵魂的教育吗？还是它是我们在两个维度上了解自己的一部分？如果你理
解了，那就非常有趣。非常有趣的是，在这里，我只是灵魂游戏中的一个棋子，我们认
为，你正在为灵魂互动设置游戏。但实际上，您自己是由灵魂操纵来执行物质性和我们将
要做的事情（1:22），以改变存在的维度。

Any other questions?

还有其他问题吗？

K- I would like to suggest something while we are at this topic. What I would like you,
Knowledge Seekers who will attend the ambassador meeting, is to write your wish, without a
name, on a piece of paper, in multiples, and give it to the ambassador you meet. Give it to
another Knowledge Seeker you meet. And wait and see what happens with your wish. A lot of
you will write, "I wish world peace." But go a step further. I give you everything possible, that
you can create that condition of peace for yourself, and for those whom you represent. And
then see the image that they receive ?? every gift. Because you give a Soul to them, you
enlighten them. And this will bring a lot of, a lot of ?? enlightenment.
K- 我想在我们谈论这个话题的时候提个建议。我希望参加大使会议的知识追求者们能够
将你们的愿望写在一张纸上（不要写名字），多写几份，并交给你们遇到的大使。将它交
给你遇到的另一个求知者。等着看看你的愿望会发生什么。你们很多人会写下：“我希望
世界和平。”但是再往前一步。我尽可能地给你一切，让你能够为自己和你所代表的人创
造和平的条件。然后看到他们接收到的每一份礼物的形象。因为你给予他们灵魂，你启发
他们。这将带来很多，很多启迪。
Any other question? (1:24).
还有其他问题吗？(1:24)。

Q: … If hopping onto the fields to travel is like driving a car on the motorway, would a traffic
jam or congestion ever occur?
问：……如果跳上田野旅行就像在高速公路上开车，那么会发生交通堵塞吗？

K- Get a few magnets and put it on the table and push them and you'll see. Get a few magnets,
magnetic balls, the ones which are very traditional now, and put them on a table
拿几个磁铁放在桌子上，推动它们，你就会看到。拿几个磁铁，磁性球，那些现在非常传
统的，放在桌子上
?? and see if you get a traffic jam. Unless somebody drives around, ?? we didn't ?? get
everybody attracted to it. But when that happens, you call it accident. I call it a new stronger
Soul. It's created by the interaction ?? of it on that ??. What would that will do, that all the
other magnets in the ?? set have ?? their own Souls, … ?? ?
看看是否会出现交通堵塞。除非有人开车到处跑。？我们没有吗？？让每个人都被它吸
引。但是当这种情况发生时，你称之为意外。我称之为一个更强大的灵魂。这是由它在
那上的相互作用所创造的。那会有什么作用，所有其他磁铁都有自己的灵魂，...

It'll be very interesting result. And then you see, if you creates a traffic jam, if it keeps the
pattern of life, there should be no traffic jam. Do we see a traffic jam of the stars? Do we see a
traffic jam of galaxies? Magnetically, they position themselves. Even if they get squeezed, they
still have a gap in the distance.
这将是非常有趣的结果。然后你会看到，如果你创造了一个交通堵塞，如果它保持着生活
的模式，就不应该有交通堵塞。我们是否看到了星星的交通堵塞？我们看到了星系的交通
堵塞吗？从磁性上讲，它们自动定位。即使它们被挤压，它们仍然在距离上有一个间隙。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: … So that I can understand, is the subconscious and the STP the same thing? And how do we
interact with it, so that it can help us with something in the physical life?
问：……所以我能理解，潜意识和 STP 是同一件事吗？我们如何与之互动，以便它能在物
质生活中帮助我们？

K- Can you repeat again?

K- 你能再重复一遍吗？

R: He's asking, is the subconscious and the STP the same thing? (1:26). And how do we interact
with it?
R:他在问，潜意识和 STP 是同一回事吗？(1: 26)。那我们如何与之互动呢？

K- Is subconscious interaction of the STM? Or the STP? You can't have something on its own and
call it subconscious, if it's not interacting with something else to create that ?? dimension. Is the
subconscious the interaction of the fields of the physicality and the STP? What we call STP, or
we call it, the "Spirit."
K-是短期记忆的潜意识互动吗？还是 STP？如果它不与其他事物互动以创造那个维度，你
不能单独拥有某样东西并称之为潜意识。潜意识是物质性和 STP 场之间的相互作用吗？我
们所称之为 STP，或者我们称之为"精神"。

I have explained this before. We have two types of emotion. One emotion is the interaction of
the fields of the physicality with the STP. And one is between the STP and the STM. But there is
a third one, which is again is the interaction of the fields of the P with the STM. This is where
you stand at a traffic light, and you suddenly find yourself pulled back ?? and a car passes you.
The STP and the physicality were asleep, but the STM protects the physicality by interacting
with it ?? , overriding the STP.
我之前已经解释过这个。我们有两种情绪。一种情感是物质性领域与 STP 的相互作用。其
中一个在 STP 和 STM 之间。但是还有第三个，再次是 P 与 STM 领域的相互作用。这是你站
在红绿灯前，突然发现自己被拉了回来，一辆车从你身边经过。STP 和物质性是沉睡的，
但 STM 通过与之互动来保护物质性，覆盖 STP。

Then you find out there is no such an answer to such a complex interactions. Because that other
dimensions of the, what we call, emotion. (1:28). Which again, is the story of the Mass and the
Weight. When the STM and the STP of the man interact they create that emotion. While the
STP and the physicality of man creates that an emotion, what does the interaction between
these two emotions create? Subconsciousness? A more purified field interaction of a higher
order which understands, and is enlightened to more than
然后你发现对于如此复杂的相互作用没有这样的答案。因为其他维度的情感。(1:28)。这
又是关于质量和重量的故事。当男人的 STM 和 STP 相互作用时，它们会产生那种情感。当
STP 和人的物质性创造了一种情感时，这两种情感之间的互动又创造了什么呢？潜意识？
一个更纯净的更高层次的场相互作用，它理解并被启发到比
what the Soul is ?? going to ?? do? Or STP is aware of? When you talk about these things, work
without ?? prejudice, and understand that every interaction creates another interaction, that
that interaction interacts with the interaction that was created out of. This is how we call, “I am
the beginning, I am the end”, because I ?? am created , ?? I'm his creation. I create, ?? I get
created.
灵魂是什么？要做什么？或者 STP 知道吗？当你谈论这些事情时，请不要带有偏见，并且
要理解每一次互动都会产生另一次互动，而这次互动会与之前产生的互动相互作用。这就
是我们所说的“我是开始，我是终结”的原因，因为我是被创造出来的，我是他的创造
物。我创造，??我被创造出来了。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: … The subconscious attends to human thought and emotion, creating things in our physical
life. That is when we have thoughts aligned with a strong emotion. Please explain the
relationship between this and the Soul.
问：......潜意识关注人类的思想和情感，在我们的物质生活中创造事物。那是当我们
的思想与强烈的情感相一致时。请解释一下这个和灵魂之间的关系。

R: I think you have just done that.

R:我想你刚刚做到了。

K- I answered that. Any other question.

K-我回答了那个问题。还有其他问题。

Q: … Mr. Keshe, (1:30). can we create new plants, using plasmatic biology?
问：……凯什先生（1:30）。我们能够使用等离子生物学创造新的植物吗？

K- Yes, why not? But you have to understand, everything about the ?? plant. We don't call it
plasmatic modification, but it's a creation on it’s own.
K- 是的，为什么不呢？但是你必须明白，一切都关于这个植物。我们不称其为等离子体
修改，但它是一种独立的创造。

Is there any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: … Will the Plasma Energy Apps improve the life of people in every aspect?
问：……等离子能量应用程序会在各个方面改善人们的生活吗？

R: Plasma Energy Apps. I guess means, maybe applications of the plasma energy will improve
the life of people.
R:等离子能量应用程序。我猜这意味着等离子能源的应用可能会改善人们的生活。

K- Of course it does. It does .. . You see, we all are aware of the knowledge, we all understand
it. Mastering it's application.
当然可以。它确实...你看，我们都意识到这个知识，我们都理解它。掌握它的应用。

We, as I've told you before, we, in the past few days, one of our Knowledge Seekers came with
a problem of health for one of the members of the family. (1:32). They're all very
knowledgeable Knowledge Seekers. They know everything, as much as I do. And I just said, you
know what you need to do? Just do this and do that. And something which is impossible in the
world of wellness happens to the person within minutes. It's not that they are any different in
knowledge than me, but I understand more about the fields of interaction, about conditions
needed and conditions created to interact with the fields.
正如我之前告诉过你们的，我们在过去几天中，我们的一位知识追求者为家庭成员的健
康问题而来找我们。( 1: 32)。他们都是非常有知识的寻求知识者。他们知道一切，就
像我一样。我只是说，你知道你需要做什么吗？只需这样做和那样做。在健康领域不可
能发生的事情在几分钟内发生在这个人身上。他们在知识上并不比我更有优势，但我对
交互领域的了解更多，了解与领域交互所需的条件和所创造的条件。
And that's the difference. And it'll come by experience. And sometimes you don't need
anything to do. It's just knowing how and where to interact your ?? fields with.
这就是区别所在。这将通过经验来实现。有时候你什么都不需要做。只是知道如何在哪
里与您的??场进行互动。

I have spoken with this, about this many times, about Naomi in the hospital. After 30 days of
accident, standing on outside through the glass window. Only by thoughts, only by interaction
of the Soul, I made arms and the legs move, dancing. And there were 10, 20 people witness to
it. And Giovanni was standing on top of the ?? bed. I don't need to
我已经多次谈论过这个问题，关于 Naomi 在医院的事情。事故发生后 30 天，站在外面透
过玻璃窗。只有通过思想，只有通过灵魂的互动，我才能使手臂和腿部运动起来，跳
舞。而且有 10、20 个人目击了这件事。乔瓦尼站在床上。我不需要
do anything. I don't need to go in there and do. It's just my connection to the Soul. (1:34). It's the
Soul which moves the physicality.
做任何事情。我不需要进去做那件事。这只是我与灵魂的联系。(1:34)。是灵魂驱动着肉
体。

And we are masters in it, but we don't abuse it. With a click of finger, with one thought, I can
bring every president without anyone telling them to sign the world peace and disarmament.
But what we're going to do with the generals? What we're going to do with those who work in
the armies and make the guns for them? So we have to teach the man the peaceful way. That
man does not make the gun. Does not matter who is the president and who is the nation, or
the star, or the planet. This is the difference. And you need to understand that. And then you
come to the point that as I always said, in this cycle, we are not magicians. We let you
understand the magic. Then nobody can "magic" you.
我们是其中的专家，但我们不滥用它。只需一指之间，一个念头，我可以让每位总统在
无人告知的情况下签署世界和平与裁军协议。但是我们要怎么处理将军们呢？我们将如
何处理那些在军队工作并为他们制造枪支的人？所以我们必须教会这个人和平的方式。
那个人没有制造枪支。不论是谁担任总统，谁是国家，或者是明星，或者是行星，都无
关紧要。这就是区别所在。而且你需要明白这一点。然后你会明白，正如我一直说的，
在这个周期中，我们并不是魔术师。我们让你理解这个魔力。然后没有人可以"魔
法"你。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: Hello Mr. Keshe, do the Souls of humanity upon death or transmutation, entering the flow of
the Earth's poles, become part of the process of creating the MaGrav fields and Inertia of the
planet, and then go on to participate in the creation of other parts of the universe by the same
process?
问：Keshe 先生，人类的灵魂在死亡或转化后，进入地球极流，成为创造 MaGrav 场和地
球惯性的过程的一部分，然后通过相同的过程参与创造宇宙的其他部分，这是否正确？

K- Everything is connected to everything. In the world of the Creation, everything is connected,

you have to find the path. (1:36).
K- 一切都与一切相连。在创造的世界中，一切都是相互联系的，你必须找到路径。
(1:36)

Q: … Hello Mr. Keshe, what is the reason that the Soul is hiding from the physicality? And
why does the Creator, why doesn't the Creator show itself in front of its creation? Thank you
for being amongst us. ..
问：… 你好，凯西先生，灵魂为什么要躲避物质世界？为什么创造者不在创造物面前
展示自己？感谢您加入我们...

K- It does, the man is blind. It does, the man is blind. And he calls it a dream. Any other

question?

K- 是的，这个人是盲人。是的，这个人是盲人。他把它称为一个梦想。还有其

他问题吗？

Q: … Good day Mr. Keshe and again thank you for another astounding teaching. In the last
Knowledge Seekers Workshop you talked briefly about Gans of Gans. Can you elaborate more
about it and give us some applications on what we can do with Gans of Gans? Thank you.
问：… 亲爱的凯什先生，再次感谢您的惊人教学。在最近的知识探索者研讨会上，你简
要谈到了甘斯的甘斯您能详细说明一下，并给我们一些关于 Gans of Gans 可以做什么的
应用示例吗？谢谢。

K- We've taught about this quite in the past a lot, and you can do a lot with it. There's a stage that
you can even go further, to make Gans’s of the Gans’s of the Gans’s. But you have to understand
how to make, how to create a condition for it to be created. And it has many, many applications.
K-我们过去经常讲到这个问题，你可以做很多事情。有一个阶段，你甚至可以进一步，制
造更多的甘斯的甘斯的甘斯。但是你必须理解如何制造，如何创造一个条件让它被创造出
来。它有很多很多的应用。

But in a way, the Knowledge Seekers are not ?? aware, they don't want to understand it. It's a
little bit too far. And how can you .. understand something happens when there's nothing
there, for something else to happen, but it happens? So, application of it, is elevation of the
Soul. In so many ways, elevation of understanding. (1:38). But, it has to be in the right way, it
has to be done in the correct way. And at the same time, that Soul has to be ready to accept it.
You can take a horse to the water, you can never make it to
但在某种程度上，寻求知识者并不知道，他们不想理解它。这有点太远了。当没有其他
事情发生时，你如何理解某事发生了，但它确实发生了？因此，应用它就是提升灵魂。
在很多方面，理解的提升。(1:38)。但是，必须以正确的方式进行，必须以正确的方式
完成同时，灵魂必须准备好接受它。你可以把马带到水边，但你永远不能强迫它喝水
drink. And this is the key. And this is the key to the existence of the man. And if you understand
it, you understand the Totality of the Creation.
喝。这是关键。这是人类存在的关键。如果你理解了它，你就理解了创造的整体性。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

There is something I have to mention. We are looking at it. We don't bring it in yet. We just
wait to see how far it goes. But, sooner or later we will lock and stop those who are attending
the London conference for a weekend. Because once we reach a number, we don't have many
openings left. You have to understand that we still have 200 Knowledge Seekers which come
from the week of the training, adding to this. And to find a venue in a four or five hundred
numbers, which accommodate security and everything else and all that, it's a "forbidable"
(formidable) task. So, those of you who are attending the London Conference over the
weekend of it, please complete as fast as you can, because we're going to block it, we have to
block it. We have a lot of people, (you) will be asked, (1:40). prior to attending, to link to, what
you call it, provide a lot of details (about yourself) for us. And this is part of what we call, the
security structure. We have ambassadors, we have delegations, we have dignitaries. And even
though you're Knowledge Seekers and you are ?? being amongst them. Their governments
want to make sure they're secure. So from sometime in September, we start the, what you call
it, security vetting. ?? we hand it over to national governments security vetting. So please
understand, we have a limited numbers. We can allow ?? Knowledge Seekers to attend this
session of the week before.
有一件事我必须提到。我们正在研究它。我们还没有引入它。我们只是等着看它会走多
远。但是，迟早我们会锁定并阻止那些参加伦敦会议的人度过一个周末。因为一旦我们
达到一个数字，就没有太多的机会了。你必须明白，我们还有来自培训周的 200 名知识寻
求者，加上这个。而要找到一个能容纳四五百人的场地，还要考虑安全和其他一切，这
是一项艰巨的任务。因此，那些参加伦敦会议的人请尽快完成，因为我们将要封锁它，
我们必须封锁它。我们有很多人，(你)将被要求，在参加之前，链接到，你们称之为，
为我们提供很多细节(关于你自己)。这是我们所称之为安全结构的一部分。我们有大
使，我们有代表团，我们有尊贵的人士。即使你们是寻求知识者，你们也是他们中的一
员。他们的政府希望确保他们的安全。所以从九月份开始，我们开始进行所谓的安全审
查。??我们将其移交给国家政府进行安全审查。所以请理解，我们的数量有限。我们可
以允许知识追求者参加本周的这个会议。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

R: ... I'm not sure how we can address it, but I'll just give you the question, and we'll have to be
careful, because it has medical connotations, but perhaps we can address it differently.
R:...我不确定我们如何解决这个问题，但我会给你提出问题，我们必须小心，因为它涉
及医学的内涵，但也许我们可以以不同的方式来解决它。
K- Do not bring in, do not even bring it in. Do not even bring it in. Do not even ask it. R: Okay.
K- 不要带进来，甚至不要带进来。甚至不要提它。甚至不要问。R:好的。

Q: … So, service onto the Creation has no limits, to create that Inertia in yourself for expansion
of the Soul, And wouldn't kids be doing it all the time, seeing they are enlightened by the
smallest things in life, (1:42). but just don't know what's happening, like waking up in your
sleep, flying in a white light.
问：……所以，服务于创造没有界限，为了扩展灵魂而在自己身上创造惯性，孩子们难
道不是一直在做这个吗？他们被生活中最微小的事情所启发（1:42），只是不知道发生
了什么，就像在睡梦中醒来，在白光中飞翔。
R: So, it's more of a statement than a question, but ... we can just leave it as it is.
R:所以，这更像是一个陈述而不是一个问题，但是...我们可以保持原样。

Q: … I would like to know if the "Gans of the Gans" is thought. Thought, thinking or thoughts. Is
that the Gans of the Gans?
问：我想知道"Gans of the Gans"是否被认为是思考的。思想，思考或想法。那是甘斯
的甘斯吗？

K- In a way it could be, if you explain it that way. Any

other question?

K- 从某种程度上说，如果你这样解释的话，可能是

这样的。还有其他问题吗？

Q: … Hello Mr. Keshe, can you expand a little on how to contain Neutron Gans?
问：…您好，Keshe 先生，您能详细介绍一下如何包含中子 Gans 吗？
K- .. Please go to, (1:44). what you call it, to Fukushima Center, they have a need for it, they can
help you a lot. They can contain everything in there. Neutron Gans, first of all, if you understand
what a Neutron Gans is. Claiming it, does not mean making it.
K-.. 请去，（1：44）。你叫它什么，去福岛中心，他们有需要，他们可以帮助你很多。
它们可以包含其中的一切。首先，如果你理解什么是中子甘斯。宣称并不意味着实现。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

R: I think you've actually covered all the questions that we have outstanding here.
R:我认为您实际上已经回答了我们这里尚未解决的所有问题。

K- I wanted to finish less than two hours today, so my wish came true. Thank you very much for
today. Please, those of you who are coming to Manchester, we'll see you on Monday morning
at 10 o'clock. The reason we start at 10, because Manchester is a busy place, 9 o'clock pushing
into getting in there, harassing is not good. So the sessions are from 10 till 6 or 10 till 5. And as
is usual, traditional with the Keshe Foundation, on the last day of Friday night, or we call it, the
last supper, we all eat together, we book a restaurant somewhere. And we'll go for … the last
night of the session. Please come without expectation. (1:46). Come in with a clear mind, and
let's see what you take back with you. Because what you take back with you, will be elevated
so much by the time you meet us back in London. And then we'll see the next cycle.
K-我希望今天能在两个小时内完成，所以我的愿望实现了。非常感谢您今天的付出。请
那些要来曼彻斯特的人，我们将在周一上午 10 点见。我们从 10 点开始是因为曼彻斯特是
一个繁忙的地方，9 点钟进入那里，骚扰是不好的。所以会议从早上 10 点到下午 6 点或
者 10 点到下午 5 点。而且，像凯史基金会一贯的传统，在星期五的最后一天晚上，或者
我们称之为最后的晚餐，我们都一起吃饭，我们会预订一个餐厅。我们将进行...本届会
议的最后一晚。请不要带有期望地来。(1:46)。以一个清晰的心态进来，让我们看看你
会带走什么因为你带回来的东西，在你回到伦敦与我们再次见面时，会被提升得更高。
然后我们将看到下一个周期。

Because what you make and what is gathered as energy in the London Conference, comes from
those who are in that one week of Conference. This is a peace condition, this is elevation of the
"Soul of the world leaders." And the conditions are not so good for many of our leaders, in the
level of their Souls. And we try to bring to that position.
因为你在伦敦会议上制造的和聚集的能量来自那些参加那一周会议的人。这是一种和平
的状态，这是对"世界领导者灵魂"的提升而且对于我们许多领导者来说，他们的灵魂层
面的条件并不是很好。我们试图将其带到那个位置。

Those of you who have enrolled or registered for the, what you call, "?? imprinting of your
Soul," as I call it, you'll see the traces of the interaction in your Souls. You will get invitation,
some for next week and some for the week after the, what you call it, the Manchester session.
So, some of you will be invited to be with us, we'll give you the date, you'll receive the email,
please check your Junks (Spam) continuously, because some of our emails end up in the Junk
and say, "I don't know, I wasn’t invited."
那些已经报名或注册参加了你们所称之为“灵魂印记”的人，就像我所说的，你们将在你
们的灵魂中看到互动的痕迹。您将收到邀请，有些是下周的，有些是下下周的，你们称之
为曼彻斯特会议。所以，你们中的一些人将被邀请与我们一起，我们会给你们日期，你们
会收到邮件，请持续检查你们的垃圾邮件，因为我们的一些邮件会被归类为垃圾邮件，并
说：“我不知道，我没有被邀请。”

We decide, we try to meet most of your requests on the time. But, you'll be invited in half an
hour session. Be on time, because when you miss it, we have to put you back, for next session,
what could be. So, those of you who want, I'm going to give you a full meeting of your, what
you call it, being able to see, and a representation of the field of your Soul. And how you
actually are, how you feel, how your feeling in truth is in the background, traces itself. (1:48).
How, what is the conflict between your Soul and STP, what's the conflict between your
physicality and your Soul, you will see it in the graph. And it'll be interesting, how synchronized
you are, how in touch you are with each other, doesn't matter how you think you are. The
machine does not lie, the man always lies himself.
我们决定，我们努力满足您大部分的要求。但是，您将被邀请参加半小时的会议。准时到
达，因为如果你迟到了，我们就得把你安排到下一节课，那将是什么样的情况。所以，你
们中想要的人，我将给你们一个完整的会议，你们所说的，能够看到，并且代表你们灵魂
的领域。而你实际上是怎样的，你的感受如何，你真实的感受在背景中自行追踪。
（1:48）。你的灵魂和 STP 之间有什么冲突，你的物质性和灵魂之间有什么冲突，你将在
图表中看到它。有趣的是，你们有多么同步，你们彼此之间有多么联系，不管你们认为自
己有多么聪明。机器不会说谎，人总是欺骗自己。

So, it'll be interesting, those of you registered for the sessions of, what you call it, to see the
structure of the Soul, in the next few days you will receive invitation for that session. And, most
probably we'll see you again next week, but in the following Monday, we
所以，对于那些注册参加会议的人来说，看到灵魂的结构将是有趣的，在接下来的几天
里，您将收到邀请参加那个会议。很可能我们下周再见，但在下一个星期一，我们
meet those who join us in Manchester. Now we start a new ??, all of us together, to the next
cycle ??.
在曼彻斯特遇见那些加入我们的人。现在我们一起开始一个新的循环。

Thank you very much for today. And hopefully we see you in the next few days. But please, for
the London Conference weekend, make sure once we close it, we ask you really early on to
provide us with all your names and details, and you have to be vetted as the dignitaries and
ambassadors are present and it's very, very tight. Especially when the Americans turn up, it's
mayhem. They think they own the world. And we have to show them we are all equal. This is
what's the biggest problem, why American ambassadors don't turn out, because the security is
so bad, that they don't even trust their own ?? security, let alone the others. Thank you very
much for today. I will meet you all in the next session, next week.
非常感谢您今天的付出。希望我们在接下来的几天能见到你。但是请确保在伦敦会议周末
结束后，我们会尽早要求您提供所有的姓名和详细信息，并且您必须经过审查，因为要出
席的是尊贵的人士和大使，非常非常严格。特别是当美国人出现时，情况就会变得一团
糟。他们认为自己拥有整个世界。我们必须向他们展示我们都是平等的。这是最大的问
题，为什么美国大使不出来，因为安全问题太糟糕了，他们甚至不信任自己的??安全，更
别说其他人了。非常感谢您今天的付出。我会在下一次会议上见到大家，下周。

499 KSW August 17, 2023 END

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结束。