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[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING]

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RON JAMES: I'm sitting
in these rooms alone

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with people who have run
secret weapons programs,

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interrogated terrorists,

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protected
closely-guarded secrets
as a profession,

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and all I can think about

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is getting them
to tell me something

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they don't want me to know.

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[EERIE MUSIC PLAYING]

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It's gonna take somebody
at the executive level to do it,

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or there's gonna be
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a incredible leak somewhere
that's somebody's conscience,

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and they don't end up, um,

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you know, committing suicide
by 12 bullet holes

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to the back of the head
kind of thing.

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[CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING]

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NARRATOR: The UFO reality
can no longer be denied.

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The secret has been
managed and guarded

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by a select few
for over 75 years.

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Advanced technology,

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biological and
physical materials
have been recovered.

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They've been secretly studied
by compartmentalized factions

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within both government
and industry.
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These claims are not new.

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But you are about to see
undeniable evidence

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and previously
unpublished accounts

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that make this case stronger
than ever before.

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Somewhere between
fact and denial,

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you are about to discover

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an accidental truth.

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[RADIO STATIC BUZZING]

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MAN 1 OVER RADIO:
3-7-8-2-0-5-8-4.

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MAN 2: Knees up. Knees up.

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[HELICOPTER HOVERING]

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[FIRE CRACKLING]

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[PEOPLE CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY]

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NARRATOR: In 2017,

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the UFO subject exploded
into the mainstream.

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PILOT 1: There's a whole fleet
of them. Look on the S.A.

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PILOT 2: Whoa! Got him!

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[BOTH LAUGHING AND WHOOPING]

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NARRATOR: The New York Times
broke a front page story

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about a shadowy
government program
studying UFOs.

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October 2017.

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Leslie Kean, who's
a notable expert on UFOs

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she was invited to a very
private conference in Washington

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with Lue Elizondo
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Chris Mellon,
to discuss UFOs.

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Lue Elizondo had just submitted
his resignation in October 2017,
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as the head of this
very secretive
Pentagon UFO office.

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Program was established.

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It was initially
called AAWSAP,

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Advanced Aerospace Weapon
System Applications Program,

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and very quickly
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morphed into the
more common vernacular

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AATIP, Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program.

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I was brought in
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to run the counterintelligence
and security piece
for this effort in 2008.

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In 2010, I was asked
by the former director
to run this program.

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The program was then
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and up to the OSD level,

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Office of Secretary of Defense.

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The Pentagon had this secret

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UFO monitoring agency
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New York Times, Politico,
and followed by them,

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everyone else covering
the UFO subject

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suddenly, with seriousness,

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suddenly talking about
encounters by the U.S. Navy with

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objects that are supposed
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The government
is investigating UFOs.

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Well, I almost crashed my car.

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NARRATOR: Three cryptic videos
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that claimed to show
unknown objects
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operating in military airspace

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while defying known
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and physics.

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BLUMENTHAL:
There are more of them
that have not been released.

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These were only snippets,
by the way,

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and we knew that.

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But we were happy to get them.

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And they caused quite a stir.

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NARRATOR: Lue Elizondo
made the media rounds
with shocking statements.

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My personal belief is that

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there is very
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we may not be alone.

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Our cosmic neighborhood
may be a hell of a lot bigger.
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And by the way, we might,
might, have neighbors.

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That's a profound moment.

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NARRATOR: At the 2018 symposium

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of The Mutual UFO Network,

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behind closed doors,

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he went beyond
his public statements
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Sometimes people
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as being fringe
or being out there,

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and all along, you were right.

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NARRATOR: One of the pilots
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Commander David Fravor,

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chimed in with bold statements
inferring otherworldly origins

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of the mysterious phenomenon.
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I believe, as do the other folks
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that what we visually saw,
that it was something
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You are talking to a pilot
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with complete bewilderment as to

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looking to you for answers.

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They're asking you,
"Sir, what was this?"

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Congress is now looking
at the possibility
of national security

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that the military is now
owning up to hours of videotapes

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taken by Navy pilots.

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There's been a sea change.

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Things are changing.

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People are more open
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yeah, maybe we're
not alone in the universe.

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NARRATOR: We were given
an updated phrase
to describe it all.

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Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.

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They're calling them
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Sometimes UFO, sometimes UAP.

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It's a kind of a rebranding
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and a redefinition
of what the phenomenon is.

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NARRATOR: A new group called
To The Stars Academy of Arts
and Sciences was introduced.

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We are To The Stars Academy
of Arts and Science.

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A public benefit corporation.

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NARRATOR:
The group was co-founded
by rock star Tom DeLonge.

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I was working my way
through NASA,
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the Department of Defense,

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and various "other" agencies.

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NARRATOR:
Its members spoke out,

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hinting of
unprecedented openness

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and straight answers
about the topic.

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But who are
these people really?

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Dr. Hal Puthoff,
former CIA operations officer.

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Jim Semivan, a 50-year veteran
of NASA, the CIA, and the
National Security Agency.

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Steve Justice,

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former director of
Lockheed Martin Skunk Works.

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Christopher Mellon,
former Undersecretary
of Defense for Intelligence.

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Lue Elizondo,

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fresh from a controversial
Pentagon resignation.

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Was anybody going to
share anything that
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It was the first time I really
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of the national security
implications of the UFO subject.

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The CIA and all these people
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and other intelligence agencies,

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you're not the right people
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[CHUCKLES] You're really not.

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Because you're the ones
that have been lying to us
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We haven't trusted
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In fact, they've always
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We are dealing with insiders.

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the military,
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have access to
classified information.

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But those people, all of them,

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will have to be very careful.

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For us to just go ahead
and spew out to satisfy
the idle curiosity of a few,

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that's not our job.

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Our job is to protect
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foreign and domestic.

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make progress on this
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they took it as
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and then they realized that,
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really, the only way
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was to leave government
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NARRATOR:
Some believe that this new
roll-out of information

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was a cleverly crafted
set of events

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being orchestrated
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An evasive faction

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who has controlled
this information for years.

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I'm not a believer
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that this is some plot to leak
it to The New York Times
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I mean, too many elements
came together
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you can, you know,
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that this was all orchestrated
and not at all true.

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I think that this
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that was organized,
thought out long-term.

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Again, I think some...

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I think they know,
and they're trying to
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I think... I use the analogy
of a snowball at the top
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and it starts out really small.

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And as it rolls down,
it's going to get bigger
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and I think they're trying
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You can't talk about
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without being the bad guy,
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in some people's minds eye.

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It just comes
with the territory.

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I refuse to discuss
anything classified.

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I've took an oath,
which is, by the way,
a lifelong oath.

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As I've told people before,

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don't ask me because
I'm not going to tell you.

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Lue is in a tough spot,

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because he knows
a lot of things that...

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I mean, he still...
He was...

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He came out of
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and he probably still,

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undoubtedly still has
connections to the
Intelligence community.
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Well, you know, so he can't
say everything he knows

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and has been privy to.

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agenda of UFO openness,

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not disclosure, but openness,

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they have enemies
within that establishment.

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So we're not talking
about a unified message.

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It's very uncomfortable.

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Especially if you've
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where anonymity
has been your friend.

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We have every right
to know the truth.

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And it's... It's not okay
that they're holding that back.

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It is not
a fun place to be.
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In fact,
if I had any opportunity

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for anybody else to stand up
and take my place...

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I would do it.

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There are a lot of people
that want this information out

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and there are a lot of people
who don't want
this information out.

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The level of pushback that

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Harry Reid shared
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When he tried to launch
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into creating AATIP,

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he said he got so much pushback
from the intelligence agencies,

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that they, like,
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They really did not
want this to happen.
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NARRATOR:
After the initial media flurry,

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the Pentagon promised a report

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that might shed some light
on the subject.

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JAKE TAPPER:
Do you expect to see
real answers in this report?

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What do you think?

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Look. Honestly,
I don't think so, Jake.

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NARRATOR:
The public only received

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a few pages of
inconclusive information.

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A more elaborate report
was delivered to Congress
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Freedom of
Information Act requests,

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known as FOIA requests,
were submitted.

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The responses received
were heavily redacted.
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Three years later,
three and a half years later,

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no new evidence has come out.

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We've got no new videos.

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Nothing like that happened.

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NARRATOR:
Congressman Tim Burchett

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has become
an outspoken crusader
against the secrecy.

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The American public
deserves to know.
We need transparency.

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That's why nobody
trusts government.

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Nobody trusts either party
when it comes down to it.

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NARRATOR:
Instead of new answers,

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we've been given
a whitewashing of the past

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and further reinforcement
of a "New Narrative"
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created to fit the day.

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NARRATOR:
The New Narrative states that

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the UAP's not ours
or any foreign government's.

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They display characteristics
that defy explanation.

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"We are committed
to determining their nature,

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"and assessing
any potential threat."

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There was no official
government study of the topic

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after Project Blue Book
ended in 1969,

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until the AAWSAP program
started in 2004.

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By sort of extracting
a lot of the history out,

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they're able
to make it seem like,

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wow, this is
a real mystery here.
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So, I don't agree with that.

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I think their New Narrative,
I think they have this fear,

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you know, that it's a threat.

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And the word "threat"
kind of bothers me a little bit.

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But I understand that in order
to get government attention,

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they need to call it,
perhaps, a threat.

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So we have an
ongoing situation here.

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This is a defense issue.

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It's an air safety issue.

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It's a national security issue.

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It's a valid issue.

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There is something
flying around in our airspace

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and we don't know what it is
or we're not telling what it is.
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Eighteen months ago,

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if you had asked anyone
in government the official line
on UFOs,

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you would have received
a standard response

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rather like this.

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"There is no current interest
or involvement in the subject.

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"Since the termination
of Blue Book in 1969,

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"nobody in government

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"is researching
or investigating this."

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You know,
the department writ large

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is clearly not interested
in UFOs whatsoever.

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NARRATOR: This story leaves
a gap of over 35 years

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that the government
was supposedly
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not engaged in the study
of the phenomenon.

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The media was quick
to participate
in the new story.

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Were they complicit
in delivering this
new version of the facts?

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There is a risk of believing
the official narrative

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too quickly
and just reporting it.

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There's many steps to go
and it's going to take a while.

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And, you know, they still have
a totally compliant media,

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for the most part.

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I can tell you from my knowledge
of The New York Times.

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The New York Times
is not afraid to
confront the government.

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Having been legal counsel
for The New York Times

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and for NBC News,

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the people on the board
of editors of those things,

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you know, feel themselves to
have a certain patriotic duty,
as they perceive them,

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to not reveal anything
to the American public

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that the National Security State
people don't want revealed.

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So I don't want to be bound

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[CHUCKLES] by what
Danny Sheehan said about his,

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you know, concepts of what
The Timesprints and doesn't.

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NARRATOR: This New Narrative
has become the official story.

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It was even stated as fact
by Andre Carson

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at the beginning of the first
congressional UFO hearings,

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in over 40 years.

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More than 50 years ago,
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the U.S. Government
ended Project Blue Book.

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An effort to catalog
and understand

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sightings of objects in the air

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that could not otherwise
be explained.

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For more than 20 years,
that project

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had treated unidentified
anomalies in our airspace

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as a national security threat
to be monitored
and investigated.

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In 2017, we learned
for the first time that
the Department of Defense

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had quietly restarted
a similar organization,

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tracking what we now call
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.

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NARRATOR:
We've heard all of this before.

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The New Narrative
is really an eerie echo
of 70-year-old events.

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We can say that
the recent sightings
are in no way connected

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with any secret development
by any agency
of the United States.

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Aircraft, we call them aircraft,
are displaying characteristics

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that are not currently
within the U.S. inventory,

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nor in any foreign inventory
that we are aware of.

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Air Force interest
in this problem

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has been due to our
feeling of an obligation

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to identify and analyze,
to the best of our ability,

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anything in the air
that may have the possibility

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of threat or menace
to the United States.

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We know that our service members
have encountered

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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.

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And because UAPs pose

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potential flight safety
and general security risk,

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we are committed
to a focused effort
to determine their origins.

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However, there have been
a certain percentage
of this volume of reports

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that have been made
by credible observers

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of relatively incredible things.

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It is this group of observations

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that we now
are attempting to resolve.

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There will be a recognized
concerted effort

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to figure this out.

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NARRATOR: The old story
was repeated almost verbatim
by the current players.
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We're still far
from the goal line,

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and there is a lot of positions

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that they could
take along the way

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that still will allow them
to maintain credibility

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and avoid culpability.

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The media and
the public want more.

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They want answers.

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I'm not sure that
there are going to be
easy answers to this.

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They're trying to sweep anything
prior to 2004 under the carpet,

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but we won't let them
because we've got

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all the historical cases
and those can't go away.

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They're not only
whitewashing history,
they're denying it.
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They're only acknowledging
the phenomenon back to 2004.

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The government has
a lot to answer for.

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Absolutely right.

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The history of the subject
has been replete

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with misinformation
and disinformation.

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It's just a complete cover up.

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NARRATOR: What was going on
in the time between the closing
of Project Blue Book

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and the beginning of
the officially announced
UFO programs

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that we know about today?

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Why is it important?

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Because in those years,
is where the truth lies.

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A truth that many have gone
to great lengths to conceal,
deny, and debunk.
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We start by taking
a closer look

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at the period between
1947 and 2005.

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The existence
of official UFO research

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and programs by
the U.S. Government
in this time frame

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has been staunchly denied.

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The facts challenge
that position.

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In the late 1940s,
the world was recovering
from World War II.

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The military was reorganizing.

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In 1947, the Air Force
was being created

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as a standalone branch
of service.

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The Cold War
and its strategic questions
were looming.

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But in the midst
of all of this,

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the United States Army
created what they called

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the Interplanetary
Phenomenon Unit

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of the Scientific
and Technical branch.

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Why did they need that?

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Numerous FOIA request
verified the existence
of this Army program.

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They state that
the unit disbanded

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and was folded into
Project Blue Book in the 50s.

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But the files of this group

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are not part of the official
Project Blue Book Collection.

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So where did they go?

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During that time,
there was advanced technology
in the possession of Germany.

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Scientists were brought over
after the war to continue
the work.

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Stories of UFOs and
crashes were abundant,

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including the famous
Roswell incident of 1947.

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The late astronaut
Dr. Edgar Mitchell

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was given secret information
about events of the time.

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In this
never before seen video,

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he shares what he was told.

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Individuals at the Pentagon,

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had been attempting
to get into the system

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and find out about it,

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thus confirming
and had confirmed.

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that the Roswell incident
was real.

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They saw some of the material
from the crashed spacecraft.

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Some saw bodies from the beings
that were killed in that crash.

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00:19:59,336 --> 00:20:02,373
There were some
that saw a live being.

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A live being had been
taken away and was
in the system somewhere.

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So those were
real life incidents that
were reported to me.

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NARRATOR: Many believe
in the formation of a group
called Majestic 12

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assembled by President Truman,

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to strategize about how
to handle the information

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about these encounters
and more.

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Documents purport
to detail the creation

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and deployment of this group,
but their authenticity

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is still a hotly debated topic.

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It makes sense, however,
that under such circumstances,

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just such a group
would have been formed.

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They would have had
control of the subject

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and accountability
to a select few.

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If a decision was made
to enact secrecy,

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this group would have
made it happen.

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After years of UFO hysteria
and speculation between
1947 and 1952,

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the government finally said
that they were taking
the subject seriously.

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Enter Project Blue Book,

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a public program

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that was supposed to
shed light on the UFO subject.

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Paul Hynek,
son of the late J. Allen Hynek,
shared this.
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My father was the
chief scientific consultant

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working alongside
Air Force counterparts.

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And it became clear that
the role of Project Blue Book

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wasn't to look for the truth,
but was to manufacture answers

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and to tamp down hysteria.

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Somebody called it the
Society for the Explanation
of the Uninvestigated.

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My father had to question
whether he should
stay involved.

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James McDonald,
one of his colleagues, said,

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look, you're being played
a fool by the Air Force,

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and my father
thought a lot about it.

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He finally decided that

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having that
front row center seat
to all these goings on

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and being able to
influence things, not control,

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was worth the trouble.

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00:21:58,420 --> 00:22:04,530
But it became increasingly
frustrating for him over time,

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as he saw that the Air Force
was not changing their colors.

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NARRATOR: J. Allen Hynek
was openly frustrated

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by the fact he was
never given access

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to what he knew were compelling
events shrouded in secrecy.

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It haunted him
until his passing in 1986.

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Official Air Force statements
regarding the conclusion
of Blue Book say,

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"Since the termination
of Project Blue Book,

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"nothing has occurred
that would support

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"a resumption of
UFO investigations
by the Air Force."

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But another four-year request
revealed a different story.

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A 1969 memo from
General Carroll Bolender,

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a senior director at Air Force
Research and Development,

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stated, "After Blue Book
was dissolved,

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"that reports of 'UFOs'

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"would still continue
to be handled

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"through a standard
Air Force procedure

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"designed for this purpose.

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"Furthermore, reports of
unidentified flying objects

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"which could affect
national security were, are,

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"not part of the
Blue Book system."

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There was the creation
of the Air Intelligence
Service squadrons,

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which were tasked
with going to any spot

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in the continental
United States,

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within six hours
and picking up debris,

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fallen pilots, and also
containing information leak.

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And so many people think
that that would have been

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the entity or the agency
that gave birth to
the Men in Black.

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What seems to be clear
is that there was a bifurcation.

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That Project Blue Book
may have started off

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as a serious
scientific endeavor,

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but as of 1953,
it no longer was,

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and there was most likely
the Air Intelligence
Service squadrons

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that picked up the banner

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of going out and
trying to find saucers

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and then hand them off to people

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who would try
to reverse-engineer

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the propulsion systems,
et cetera.

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DON SCHMITT:
General Arthur Exon
described to us

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when he was base commander

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at Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base in 1964,

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that there would be
an ongoing joke

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00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:05,478
that the Blue Book, you know,
a two-man team would fly off

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in a little single engine plane
in one direction,

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and then the actual project
would arrive from Washington

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on a commercial flight,
they would change back
into their uniforms,

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and a team of 12-15 officers
would fly off in a jet

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to actually conduct
full-scale investigations.

488
00:24:25,325 --> 00:24:27,086
NARRATOR:
Project Blue Book
was headquartered

489
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,088
at Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base,

490
00:24:29,122 --> 00:24:32,125
but some of the other,
more secret UFO programs

491
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,196
seem to have been
located there, too.

492
00:24:34,231 --> 00:24:37,165
One of these is
the mysterious Blue Room,

493
00:24:37,199 --> 00:24:41,341
an underground repository
of recovered technology
and debris.

494
00:24:41,376 --> 00:24:45,345
MICHAEL: This is the location,
allegedly, where they
brought the bodies

495
00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:47,002
and the craft from
the Roswell crash

496
00:24:47,037 --> 00:24:50,419
and where all of the other
crash retrievals and bodies,

497
00:24:50,454 --> 00:24:53,630
kind of like they have
a consortium of where
they keep all this.

498
00:24:53,664 --> 00:24:57,910
So you've got the bodies,
you've got the craft,
you've got the debris,

499
00:24:57,944 --> 00:24:59,290
autopsy reports,

500
00:24:59,325 --> 00:25:02,535
the eight-by-ten glossy
black and white photographs,

501
00:25:02,570 --> 00:25:06,263
and the gun camera footage
is all supposed to be kept

502
00:25:06,297 --> 00:25:09,266
at the Blue Room,
some type of
an underground vault

503
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:13,201
or Building 18 at
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

504
00:25:13,235 --> 00:25:16,791
NARRATOR:
Senator Barry Goldwater
sought confirmation of this.

505
00:25:16,825 --> 00:25:18,827
At Wright-Patterson field,

506
00:25:18,862 --> 00:25:21,520
if you could get
into certain places,
507
00:25:21,554 --> 00:25:23,314
you find out what the Air Force

508
00:25:23,349 --> 00:25:26,145
and the government knows
about UFOs.

509
00:25:26,179 --> 00:25:31,150
Reportedly, a spaceship landed

510
00:25:31,184 --> 00:25:35,085
and it was all hushed up,
quiet, and nobody ever...

511
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,294
I've never heard
about much of it.

512
00:25:38,398 --> 00:25:42,817
I called Curtis LeMay,
and I said, "General,

513
00:25:42,851 --> 00:25:47,097
"I know we have a room
at Wright-Patterson,

514
00:25:47,131 --> 00:25:49,340
"where you put
all the secret stuff.

515
00:25:51,066 --> 00:25:52,274
"Could I go in there?"

516
00:25:53,241 --> 00:25:56,175
I've never heard him get mad,

517
00:25:56,209 --> 00:25:58,591
but he got madder
than hell at me.

518
00:25:58,626 --> 00:25:59,868
Cussed me out,

519
00:25:59,903 --> 00:26:02,802
said, "Don't ever
ask me that question."
520
00:26:02,837 --> 00:26:06,323
NARRATOR: Supposedly,
the contents of the
Blue Room were filmed.

521
00:26:06,357 --> 00:26:10,154
Exhaustive FOIA requests
finally revealed that this film

522
00:26:10,189 --> 00:26:13,054
did indeed exist,
but was destroyed.

523
00:26:15,470 --> 00:26:19,267
Nick Pope, a longtime
ex-British government pundit
on the topic,

524
00:26:19,301 --> 00:26:22,511
denied official investigation
of the subject for years.

525
00:26:22,546 --> 00:26:23,754
Until he didn't.

526
00:26:23,789 --> 00:26:26,723
The more interesting
UFO sightings are
being looked at,

527
00:26:26,757 --> 00:26:29,415
but not under the auspices

528
00:26:29,449 --> 00:26:32,798
of a formally constituted
UFO research program.

529
00:26:32,832 --> 00:26:36,733
We now know about
a government UFO program,

530
00:26:36,767 --> 00:26:42,635
but we might not know about
the government UFO program.

531
00:26:43,809 --> 00:26:44,603
[DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING]

532
00:26:45,534 --> 00:26:47,260
NARRATOR: Pope has
told a story about

533
00:26:47,295 --> 00:26:49,746
a picture that hung
on the wall of his office
for years

534
00:26:49,780 --> 00:26:51,161
until being removed.

535
00:26:51,195 --> 00:26:54,440
The Calvine incident
from the United Kingdom,

536
00:26:54,474 --> 00:26:57,477
is one of the
most intriguing sightings

537
00:26:57,512 --> 00:26:59,928
in the British government's
UFO files.

538
00:26:59,963 --> 00:27:02,103
And for some years,

539
00:27:02,137 --> 00:27:06,348
when I was working in
Ministry of Defense
main building on this issue,

540
00:27:06,383 --> 00:27:11,353
we had a blown-up,
poster-sized enlargement

541
00:27:11,388 --> 00:27:15,047
of one of the photos
that was taken.

542
00:27:15,081 --> 00:27:17,187
The story is that two hikers

543
00:27:17,221 --> 00:27:20,466
were out and they saw
a large diamond-shaped UFO.

544
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,987
At one point,
there was a military jet
in the background.

545
00:27:24,021 --> 00:27:27,197
And then the UFO
accelerated away.

546
00:27:27,231 --> 00:27:29,164
We had looked at them
at the Ministry of Defense.

547
00:27:29,199 --> 00:27:35,205
They'd been analyzed by
various intelligence
community imagery analysts.

548
00:27:35,239 --> 00:27:37,069
It was literally a UFO.

549
00:27:37,103 --> 00:27:40,451
The Ministry of Defense
embarked on a campaign

550
00:27:40,486 --> 00:27:43,558
to declassify
and release its UFO files.

551
00:27:43,592 --> 00:27:47,286
Documents about the
Calvine incident emerged,

552
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,772
but the full-size color photos,

553
00:27:50,807 --> 00:27:54,120
the negatives,
the enlarged image
that was on my wall,

554
00:27:54,155 --> 00:27:56,019
gone. Disappeared.

555
00:27:56,053 --> 00:28:00,575
There was an effort to see
if the original photos

556
00:28:00,609 --> 00:28:05,994
might be in the hard copy file
held at the National Archives.

557
00:28:06,029 --> 00:28:08,548
And, apparently,
the hard copy file

558
00:28:08,583 --> 00:28:11,793
will be released in
about the year 2072.

559
00:28:14,209 --> 00:28:16,039
NARRATOR: In an interesting
turn of events,

560
00:28:16,073 --> 00:28:18,179
just as we were
finishing this project,

561
00:28:18,213 --> 00:28:19,559
the picture appeared.

562
00:28:19,594 --> 00:28:22,873
This is the mysterious
Calvine UFO photograph.

563
00:28:22,908 --> 00:28:24,461
The facts around
this photograph

564
00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:26,670
strongly suggest
an unknown group

565
00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:29,638
that was able to intercept
the release of this image

566
00:28:29,673 --> 00:28:30,985
and attempt to stop it.

567
00:28:31,019 --> 00:28:32,641
But who are they?
568
00:28:32,676 --> 00:28:34,851
Information in government,

569
00:28:34,885 --> 00:28:37,681
in particularly
intelligence information,

570
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:42,928
it's highly classified,
deeply compartmentalized,

571
00:28:42,962 --> 00:28:44,619
everyone works in silos.

572
00:28:44,653 --> 00:28:47,553
The left hand often doesn't know
what the right hand's doing.

573
00:28:47,587 --> 00:28:50,349
NARRATOR: We saw an example
of compartmentalization

574
00:28:50,383 --> 00:28:52,731
and the evasion of scrutiny
and straight answers

575
00:28:52,765 --> 00:28:55,630
during the recent
Senate hearings on UFOs.

576
00:28:55,664 --> 00:28:59,323
So you're not aware
of anything in between
Project Blue Book and AATIP?

577
00:28:59,358 --> 00:29:01,394
Hasn't been brought
to my attention.

578
00:29:01,429 --> 00:29:04,708
That data is not within
the holdings of
the UAP task force.

579
00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:06,296
There are many things
that are out there in the ether

580
00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:07,987
that aren't officially
brought to our attention.

581
00:29:08,022 --> 00:29:10,093
GALLAGHER:
How would it have to be
officially brought?

582
00:29:10,127 --> 00:29:11,922
[CHUCKLES] I'm bringing it
to your attention.

583
00:29:11,957 --> 00:29:14,338
Probably a lot of leads
that we would have
to follow up on.

584
00:29:14,373 --> 00:29:16,340
I don't think we have resource
to do that right now.

585
00:29:16,375 --> 00:29:18,515
All I can speak to is, you know,
what's within my cognizance,

586
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:21,414
the UAP task force,
and we have not looked
at that incident.

587
00:29:21,449 --> 00:29:23,106
And then, finally,
are you aware of a document

588
00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:24,693
that appeared around 2019,

589
00:29:24,728 --> 00:29:28,697
sometimes called the
Admiral Wilson Memo
or E.W. Notes Memo?

590
00:29:28,732 --> 00:29:32,115
-I am... I am not...
-I'm not personally
aware of that.

591
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:35,670
NARRATOR:
These answers are made possible
by compartmentalization

592
00:29:35,704 --> 00:29:37,637
that aids in deniability.

593
00:29:37,672 --> 00:29:39,122
You can ask the questions,

594
00:29:39,156 --> 00:29:40,882
but who are you going
to ask them of?

595
00:29:40,917 --> 00:29:43,436
And you've got to
make sure you're asking
the right people the questions,

596
00:29:43,471 --> 00:29:45,611
because that's
another problem.

597
00:29:45,645 --> 00:29:47,578
You can ask questions
all day long.

598
00:29:49,995 --> 00:29:53,170
NARRATOR: While we're at it,
what is the Wilson-Davis Memo

599
00:29:53,205 --> 00:29:55,207
that Senator Gallagher
asked about?

600
00:29:55,241 --> 00:30:00,212
It's the leak of 15 pages
of notes by Dr. Eric Davis,

601
00:30:00,246 --> 00:30:03,767
of a meeting he had in 2002
with a retired member

602
00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:06,770
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
Admiral Thomas R. Wilson.

603
00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:11,395
And the contents of these notes
are absolutely explosive.

604
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:14,019
NARRATOR: The Wilson-Davis Memo
was found in the files

605
00:30:14,053 --> 00:30:15,779
of the late Dr. Edgar Mitchell.

606
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,402
It was the existence of
a reverse-engineering program

607
00:30:18,437 --> 00:30:21,647
to reverse-engineer
extraterrestrial technology.

608
00:30:21,681 --> 00:30:23,166
After he learned
about the existence

609
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,066
of a deep classified program
to study ET technology.

610
00:30:27,101 --> 00:30:32,416
And the fact that he had
genuine legal regulatory
oversight over this,

611
00:30:32,451 --> 00:30:34,763
how he was denied
access to this program.

612
00:30:34,798 --> 00:30:38,664
We'd retrieved
a functioning craft
that was ET in nature.

613
00:30:38,698 --> 00:30:40,700
I mean,
this is all stated in there.
614
00:30:40,735 --> 00:30:43,634
And that there
had been this long
reverse-engineering program.

615
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:45,705
But it had gone
into a corporate company,

616
00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:48,122
and the heads of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff

617
00:30:48,156 --> 00:30:49,606
have no business
looking into it.

618
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,815
The memorable quote
on that note is,

619
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:54,335
"Technology not of this Earth,

620
00:30:54,369 --> 00:30:57,683
"not made by man,
not by human hands."

621
00:30:57,717 --> 00:30:59,616
They said, "No,
you're not read in."

622
00:30:59,650 --> 00:31:02,895
NARRATOR: Admiral Wilson denies
the authenticity of the story.

623
00:31:02,930 --> 00:31:05,622
Dr. Eric Davis plays
a significant role

624
00:31:05,656 --> 00:31:07,935
in the programs
we are describing here,

625
00:31:07,969 --> 00:31:09,729
the history and the research.
626
00:31:09,764 --> 00:31:11,352
He said this,

627
00:31:11,386 --> 00:31:16,322
"I am not at liberty
to confirm or verify
any aspect of those notes."

628
00:31:16,357 --> 00:31:18,704
These notes, in my view,

629
00:31:18,738 --> 00:31:20,602
there's no question
about their authenticity.

630
00:31:23,467 --> 00:31:25,504
NARRATOR: In a recent
presentation to Congress,

631
00:31:25,538 --> 00:31:28,058
MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network,

632
00:31:28,093 --> 00:31:32,476
presented a slide pointing out
nearly 20 government agencies

633
00:31:32,511 --> 00:31:36,101
that have some program
or study of UAP.

634
00:31:36,135 --> 00:31:37,516
There were many.

635
00:31:39,207 --> 00:31:40,726
In 1991,

636
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,590
New York Times writer
Howard Blum

637
00:31:42,624 --> 00:31:44,592
released the bookOut There.

638
00:31:44,626 --> 00:31:47,284
In it,
he detailed an actual group
639
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:50,218
formed by the Pentagon
to investigate new evidence

640
00:31:50,253 --> 00:31:53,014
related to an
extraterrestrial presence.

641
00:31:53,049 --> 00:31:57,294
This group,
referred to in the book
as the UFO Working Group,

642
00:31:57,329 --> 00:31:59,572
was led by
a shadowy army colonel

643
00:31:59,607 --> 00:32:02,575
referred to
as Colonel Phillips.

644
00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:05,406
It is believed that the
mysterious Colonel Phillips

645
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,858
represents a real colonel
who is even more of a mystery.

646
00:32:09,893 --> 00:32:14,346
Colonel John Alexander
is a central figure
in much of this history.

647
00:32:14,380 --> 00:32:19,938
In 1985, he became the director
of advanced concepts
at the U.S. Army Lab.

648
00:32:20,593 --> 00:32:21,629
In 2009,

649
00:32:21,663 --> 00:32:24,839
John Alexander spoke
at the UFOX Conference

650
00:32:24,873 --> 00:32:27,324
and was interviewed
behind the scenes.

651
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:32,260
What I think needs
to happen at this time
is not disclosure per se,

652
00:32:32,295 --> 00:32:33,848
because I don't think
there is much to disclose.

653
00:32:33,882 --> 00:32:38,094
What I think needs to happen
is we need to make it okay,

654
00:32:38,128 --> 00:32:41,614
permissible
for serious scientists

655
00:32:41,649 --> 00:32:44,169
who want to explore
these fields to do this.

656
00:32:44,203 --> 00:32:47,137
NARRATOR: Unknown at the time
of this original interview,

657
00:32:47,172 --> 00:32:48,483
he had been running a program

658
00:32:48,518 --> 00:32:51,210
exactly like the kind
described in Blum's book.

659
00:32:51,245 --> 00:32:55,870
KEAN:
A bunch of military, aerospace
and government insiders

660
00:32:55,904 --> 00:32:59,184
started with the
Advanced Theoretical Physics
Working Group.

661
00:32:59,218 --> 00:33:02,704
Now, there's even some
evidence that it existed
prior to that.

662
00:33:02,739 --> 00:33:06,570
I ran a program
inside the government,

663
00:33:06,605 --> 00:33:09,746
I had all of the
services involved,

664
00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:13,198
I had many aspects of
the Intelligence community,

665
00:33:13,232 --> 00:33:15,683
I had aerospace engineers.

666
00:33:15,717 --> 00:33:18,789
It was at the
top secret SCI level,

667
00:33:18,824 --> 00:33:21,378
so everybody had
the high clearances.

668
00:33:23,725 --> 00:33:26,280
They had this meeting
at BDM Corporation

669
00:33:26,314 --> 00:33:28,523
in a secure vault room and said,

670
00:33:28,558 --> 00:33:30,836
"We're forming up this group."

671
00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:32,769
And that was in 1985.

672
00:33:32,803 --> 00:33:34,115
NARRATOR:
The real name of the group

673
00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:37,222
was the Advanced Theoretical
Physics Working Group.
674
00:33:37,256 --> 00:33:39,258
The study topics included

675
00:33:39,293 --> 00:33:41,398
Advanced Detector Deployment,

676
00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:45,678
Established Communication,
New Materials,

677
00:33:45,713 --> 00:33:48,440
Develop a
"Gravity Interaction System",

678
00:33:48,474 --> 00:33:51,098
"Biological Controls
of Processes".

679
00:33:51,995 --> 00:33:54,032
We start by saying it's real.

680
00:33:54,066 --> 00:33:55,447
So let's be clear.

681
00:33:55,481 --> 00:33:57,069
UFOs are real,

682
00:33:57,104 --> 00:33:58,691
sensor systems picked them up.

683
00:34:01,591 --> 00:34:04,939
UFOs have been around, you know,

684
00:34:04,973 --> 00:34:07,700
since, again,
the beginning of time,

685
00:34:07,735 --> 00:34:10,945
or recorded history
as we know it.

686
00:34:10,978 --> 00:34:14,328
It is a global phenomenon.

687
00:34:16,261 --> 00:34:19,471
One of the things that will
come up in this, undoubtedly,

688
00:34:19,505 --> 00:34:21,161
is the BAASS study

689
00:34:21,197 --> 00:34:23,337
or the one that
Lue Elizondo said

690
00:34:23,371 --> 00:34:26,271
came out in The New York Times.

691
00:34:26,304 --> 00:34:27,547
We spent a lot of time

692
00:34:27,581 --> 00:34:28,928
in the analysis piece of this,

693
00:34:28,963 --> 00:34:32,034
getting experts
within the community,

694
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:35,349
both the Department of Defense
and the Intelligence community.

695
00:34:35,382 --> 00:34:38,110
It basically followed
the same thing

696
00:34:38,145 --> 00:34:41,493
that I had done
30 years earlier

697
00:34:41,527 --> 00:34:45,635
and found, I think,
basically the same thing.

698
00:34:45,668 --> 00:34:47,360
What we're talking about
is something

699
00:34:47,395 --> 00:34:50,260
that is probably not ours
or adversarial.
700
00:34:50,295 --> 00:34:54,540
Something that we really just
don't know where it's from.

701
00:34:54,574 --> 00:34:56,473
And may have been frankly here
for quite a while.

702
00:34:56,507 --> 00:34:58,510
The things that they knew about

703
00:34:58,544 --> 00:35:02,134
the capabilities of UFOs
were being observed

704
00:35:02,169 --> 00:35:03,170
felt the same.

705
00:35:03,204 --> 00:35:06,828
Really fast,
high speed turns, anti-gravity.

706
00:35:06,863 --> 00:35:09,176
You know, things that
just can't happen.

707
00:35:11,695 --> 00:35:14,284
And first of all,
every sensorial system we have

708
00:35:14,319 --> 00:35:17,391
does pick up UFOs
from time to time.

709
00:35:17,425 --> 00:35:20,670
We have hard craft
more than a mile across,

710
00:35:20,704 --> 00:35:24,052
multi sensor.
I mean, absolutely real.

711
00:35:24,087 --> 00:35:27,677
And thousands and thousands
of variations in between.

712
00:35:27,711 --> 00:35:30,473
UAP observed
and interacting with

713
00:35:30,507 --> 00:35:32,406
and flying over
sensitive military facilities,

714
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,855
and not just ranges,

715
00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:37,204
but some facilities housing
our strategic nuclear forces.

716
00:35:37,238 --> 00:35:39,482
One such incident
allegedly occurred

717
00:35:39,516 --> 00:35:41,932
at Malmstrom Air Force Base,

718
00:35:41,967 --> 00:35:44,728
in which ten of
our nuclear ICBMs
were rendered inoperable.

719
00:35:44,763 --> 00:35:46,730
People do look at
some of these things.

720
00:35:46,765 --> 00:35:49,699
Particularly, the incidents
with F aded Giant

721
00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:53,151
that Bob Salas talks about
where you had missiles go down.

722
00:35:53,185 --> 00:35:54,635
Absolutely real.

723
00:35:54,669 --> 00:35:56,982
I have heard stories,
I have not seen
the official data.

724
00:35:57,016 --> 00:35:58,984
No official assessment

725
00:35:59,018 --> 00:36:02,919
that you've done or exist within
DOD that you're aware of

726
00:36:02,953 --> 00:36:04,748
regarding the
Malmstrom incident?

727
00:36:04,783 --> 00:36:06,025
We have not looked
at that incident.

728
00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:07,889
You're the guys
investigating it.

729
00:36:07,924 --> 00:36:09,443
I mean, who else is doing it?

730
00:36:09,477 --> 00:36:14,033
Studied the hell out of it
and end up with,
"Have no idea."

731
00:36:17,002 --> 00:36:18,762
NARRATOR: This stunning
set of revelations

732
00:36:18,797 --> 00:36:21,696
places John Alexander
in the thick of the subject

733
00:36:21,731 --> 00:36:25,700
during the elusive
missing years
in question.

734
00:36:25,735 --> 00:36:28,358
A request for information
on the military background

735
00:36:28,393 --> 00:36:32,362
of Colonel John Alexander
returned an absolute refusal
736
00:36:32,397 --> 00:36:34,468
by the Department
of Army personnel,

737
00:36:34,502 --> 00:36:38,265
to even acknowledge
Colonel Alexander's
military record.

738
00:36:41,406 --> 00:36:43,166
After retiring from the Army,

739
00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:47,066
John Alexander worked
at Los Alamos National Labs.

740
00:36:47,101 --> 00:36:48,620
In 1995,

741
00:36:48,654 --> 00:36:52,624
Alexander took a position
at a new research group
called NIDS.

742
00:36:52,658 --> 00:36:55,834
The National Institute
for Discovery Sciences.

743
00:36:55,868 --> 00:36:59,665
NIDS was founded by a Nevada
billionaire, Robert Bigelow.

744
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,427
These individuals became friends
with Robert Bigelow,

745
00:37:02,461 --> 00:37:03,807
and they became
involved with him.

746
00:37:03,842 --> 00:37:06,672
Shortly after that,
another organization

747
00:37:06,707 --> 00:37:08,156
was formed called NIDS,
748
00:37:08,191 --> 00:37:10,642
National Institute
of Discovery Science.

749
00:37:10,676 --> 00:37:12,126
And Bigelow funded that,

750
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,474
and it involved all these
same people and others.

751
00:37:15,509 --> 00:37:17,373
NARRATOR:
Shortly after forming NIDS,

752
00:37:17,407 --> 00:37:22,274
Robert Bigelow bought the
famous paranormal site known
as Skinwalker Ranch.

753
00:37:22,309 --> 00:37:24,656
John Alexander was there.

754
00:37:24,690 --> 00:37:25,898
I was with Bob,

755
00:37:26,761 --> 00:37:28,107
Robert Bigelow who owned it.

756
00:37:28,142 --> 00:37:30,282
I was with Bob the day
he bought the ranch.

757
00:37:30,317 --> 00:37:32,526
Was the first one to,

758
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,700
you know, spend the night.

759
00:37:34,735 --> 00:37:37,082
We spent years looking at that.

760
00:37:37,116 --> 00:37:40,085
NARRATOR: He would go on
to personally witness events
761
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:42,260
that led him to
startling conclusions

762
00:37:42,294 --> 00:37:45,504
about the complexity
of unexplained phenomenon.

763
00:37:45,539 --> 00:37:48,783
There was no single phenomenon
that was happening at the ranch.

764
00:37:48,818 --> 00:37:52,718
The stories are so bizarre,
what you end up, though,

765
00:37:52,753 --> 00:37:56,135
with is something that
is terribly complex,

766
00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:59,104
maybe more complex
than we can imagine.

767
00:38:01,831 --> 00:38:04,109
NARRATOR: It wasn't long
before strange reports

768
00:38:04,143 --> 00:38:06,076
of unusual activity
at the ranch

769
00:38:06,111 --> 00:38:09,942
attracted the attention of the
Defense Intelligence Agency.

770
00:38:09,977 --> 00:38:11,599
You look at the guys involved,

771
00:38:11,634 --> 00:38:15,016
and some of them were,
I mean, we're talking
PhD-level scientists.

772
00:38:15,051 --> 00:38:19,124
NARRATOR: Robert Bigelow
went on to form Bigelow
Advanced Aerospace Studies,

773
00:38:19,158 --> 00:38:22,161
BAASS, as the
evolved version of NIDs.

774
00:38:22,196 --> 00:38:26,649
He was quickly rewarded
with a Defense Intelligence
Agency contract

775
00:38:26,683 --> 00:38:30,894
to study subjects closely tied
to the UAP phenomenon.

776
00:38:30,929 --> 00:38:33,345
According to
the original contract,

777
00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:35,209
some of these topics included,

778
00:38:35,243 --> 00:38:40,007
Lift, Propulsion, Control,
Power Generation,

779
00:38:40,041 --> 00:38:42,181
Spatial/Temporal Translation,

780
00:38:42,216 --> 00:38:45,633
Materials,
Structural Configuration,

781
00:38:45,668 --> 00:38:48,705
Signature Reduction,
Human Interface,

782
00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:51,984
Human Effects, and Armament.

783
00:38:52,019 --> 00:38:54,297
At one point,
BAASS brought on MUFON,

784
00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:55,919
the Mutual UFO Network,
785
00:38:55,954 --> 00:38:58,957
to help in the study
of UFO events around the world.

786
00:38:58,991 --> 00:39:01,753
Richard Lang ran
the program inside MUFON.

787
00:39:01,787 --> 00:39:03,582
When we put this
program together,

788
00:39:03,617 --> 00:39:05,377
basically what they were doing

789
00:39:05,412 --> 00:39:10,209
is they were paying MUFON
for data every month.

790
00:39:10,244 --> 00:39:12,142
At the time
that we put this all together,

791
00:39:12,177 --> 00:39:14,904
we didn't know that the DIA
was funding this.

792
00:39:14,938 --> 00:39:17,458
I knew based on some
of the conversations I had

793
00:39:17,493 --> 00:39:21,428
that there was
somebody funding that,
that wasn't Bigelow,

794
00:39:21,462 --> 00:39:22,636
but I didn't know who it was.

795
00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:24,879
I assumed it was
some government agency.

796
00:39:27,192 --> 00:39:29,505
NARRATOR: The BAASS program
was called AAWSAP.
797
00:39:29,539 --> 00:39:33,854
It was the precursor program
to what we now know as AATIP.

798
00:39:33,888 --> 00:39:39,100
Lue Elizondo says
he took over the remains
of the program in 2009.

799
00:39:39,135 --> 00:39:44,209
So the initial focus of AATIP,
which was really AAWSAP,

800
00:39:44,243 --> 00:39:46,487
was very broad.

801
00:39:46,522 --> 00:39:51,009
So imagine trying to shoot a fly
with a shotgun, right?

802
00:39:52,010 --> 00:39:53,356
Chances are
you probably hit the fly,

803
00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:55,738
but chances are
you're going to hit a lot more.

804
00:39:55,772 --> 00:39:58,637
So we quickly realized
that we were getting
a lot of information

805
00:39:58,672 --> 00:40:01,399
as a result of this
broad focus very quickly,

806
00:40:01,433 --> 00:40:03,711
and we frankly, just didn't have
the staff to deal with it all.

807
00:40:03,746 --> 00:40:06,196
So a decision was made early on

808
00:40:06,231 --> 00:40:09,855
to focus a program,
the program was
renamed to AATIP,

809
00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:13,203
and really use, let's say,
instead of a shotgun,

810
00:40:13,238 --> 00:40:15,999
maybe we're going to use
a sniper rifle this time, right?

811
00:40:16,034 --> 00:40:20,038
So much more focused
on what it is we were
trying to collect,

812
00:40:20,072 --> 00:40:24,767
and try to digest this elephant,
one bite at a time.

813
00:40:24,801 --> 00:40:27,597
And so the focus
of AATIP was indeed...

814
00:40:27,632 --> 00:40:29,357
Was indeed the phenomenon.

815
00:40:31,049 --> 00:40:33,603
Again, the challenge is,
where do you start?

816
00:40:33,638 --> 00:40:36,364
We have got,
and we may well get,

817
00:40:36,917 --> 00:40:38,125
interesting information,

818
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:39,747
but we may never get all of it.

819
00:40:39,782 --> 00:40:42,405
What I'm afraid happens,
too, is that somebody

820
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,479
that has this knowledge,
passes away or goes on,
821
00:40:47,514 --> 00:40:50,448
and then the new person
coming in doesn't quite

822
00:40:50,482 --> 00:40:52,277
grasp what's going on.

823
00:40:52,311 --> 00:40:56,315
One difficulty with
getting information
from the military is,

824
00:40:56,350 --> 00:40:58,835
those who say don't know.

825
00:40:58,870 --> 00:41:01,528
Those who know don't say.

826
00:41:01,562 --> 00:41:03,806
In other words,
when someone says
that they know everything

827
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,155
about what's happening
with the military,
then don't believe it.

828
00:41:08,189 --> 00:41:10,985
Because maybe there are things
that they don't know.

829
00:41:11,020 --> 00:41:14,506
So I think the mantra here
is "Beware".

830
00:41:14,541 --> 00:41:15,680
That is, be cautious.

831
00:41:15,714 --> 00:41:19,097
Don't believe everything
you hear from the military.

832
00:41:19,131 --> 00:41:20,788
These private corporations
that are running
833
00:41:20,823 --> 00:41:23,135
the special access programs,
they are the Mafia.

834
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,933
They don't want anything
examining what they do.

835
00:41:27,968 --> 00:41:29,832
They've got the future
in their possession.

836
00:41:29,866 --> 00:41:33,594
They've got the most
exotic technology and
science imaginable,

837
00:41:33,629 --> 00:41:35,078
and they have it.

838
00:41:35,113 --> 00:41:37,805
Why would they possibly
want to share it?

839
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,014
Anybody that
does know the truth,

840
00:41:40,049 --> 00:41:41,602
I don't know their name.

841
00:41:41,637 --> 00:41:43,121
You don't know their name.

842
00:41:43,155 --> 00:41:45,054
They are not in
the public right now.

843
00:41:45,088 --> 00:41:46,918
They are not speaking
to anybody.

844
00:41:46,952 --> 00:41:48,471
They're not on camera.

845
00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:49,679
You don't know them.

846
00:41:49,714 --> 00:41:51,992
And that's where
the dark programs,
I think, come in.

847
00:41:52,026 --> 00:41:53,856
The Skunk Works
and things like that.

848
00:41:53,890 --> 00:41:58,274
It's where the government
and big business somehow
are interlocked,

849
00:41:58,308 --> 00:42:02,312
that we don't know
and there's somebody knows.

850
00:42:02,347 --> 00:42:05,281
Somebody is getting that money
and it's going somewhere.

851
00:42:09,975 --> 00:42:12,564
When it came to
investigating UFO mystery,

852
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:14,048
a lot of people used to say

853
00:42:14,083 --> 00:42:17,120
that all roads lead to
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

854
00:42:17,155 --> 00:42:18,466
But in the last few years,

855
00:42:18,501 --> 00:42:21,124
and especially some of
the more controversial subjects,

856
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,782
a lot of the roads
lead right here.

857
00:42:23,817 --> 00:42:26,129
NARRATOR:
Recently declassified documents

858
00:42:26,164 --> 00:42:28,925
now shed light on
the other aspects of BAASS

859
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,307
and information that
may have originated

860
00:42:31,341 --> 00:42:33,792
from some of
these older programs.

861
00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:35,345
Since the early 1900s,

862
00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:38,141
there have been reports
of crashed UFOs.

863
00:42:38,176 --> 00:42:39,557
For over a century,

864
00:42:39,591 --> 00:42:42,456
hundreds of witnesses
have shared their accounts.

865
00:42:42,490 --> 00:42:46,046
There were 119 alleged
crash retrieval cases.

866
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,220
All we need is one to be true,

867
00:42:48,255 --> 00:42:50,913
and it's disclosure right there.
All we need is one.

868
00:42:50,947 --> 00:42:53,985
So, some of the cases
that come to mind

869
00:42:54,019 --> 00:42:58,230
are certainly 1941,
Cape Girardeau, Missouri,

870
00:42:58,265 --> 00:43:00,163
where there were
three bodies recovered.

871
00:43:00,198 --> 00:43:01,889
The craft was
recovered as well.

872
00:43:01,924 --> 00:43:05,203
It's alleged that the bodies
in the craft were stored,

873
00:43:05,237 --> 00:43:06,549
not at the Pentagon,

874
00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:08,965
because the Pentagon
didn't exist in '41,

875
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,693
but in the basement
of the Capitol Building
in Washington, D.C.

876
00:43:12,728 --> 00:43:14,937
So that's 1941, Cape Girardeau.

877
00:43:14,971 --> 00:43:16,973
Now, move fast forward
six years,

878
00:43:17,008 --> 00:43:19,493
you've got July 2nd, 1947.

879
00:43:19,527 --> 00:43:21,978
You've got the
Roswell Crash retrieval.

880
00:43:22,013 --> 00:43:23,911
There was a small
egg-shaped craft

881
00:43:23,946 --> 00:43:26,086
the size of a Volkswagen
with a dome on top.
882
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,466
There were
five bodies recovered,

883
00:43:27,501 --> 00:43:29,468
one was still alive,
so that's Roswell.

884
00:43:29,503 --> 00:43:31,505
Move forward in 1953,

885
00:43:31,539 --> 00:43:33,369
you've got the Kingman.

886
00:43:33,403 --> 00:43:38,685
This is not the crash retrieval,
but it is a forced landing.

887
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,583
There were
four beings associated

888
00:43:40,618 --> 00:43:43,275
with that particular
retrieval operation.

889
00:43:43,310 --> 00:43:46,658
They were all live,
they did establish contact.

890
00:43:46,693 --> 00:43:49,730
That craft was
allegedly brought to the
remote test site in Nevada.

891
00:43:49,765 --> 00:43:54,355
Now, prior to that,
we've got the
'48 Aztec crash retrieval.

892
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:58,187
This was a 99.9 foot diameter,
disk-shaped craft,

893
00:43:58,221 --> 00:44:02,570
that had kind of a silver
outer exterior color.

894
00:44:02,605 --> 00:44:05,988
There were two bodies recovered
on the upper dome of the craft

895
00:44:06,022 --> 00:44:09,267
in the central part
of the rim of the craft.
On the interior,

896
00:44:09,301 --> 00:44:12,822
there were another 14 bodies
for a grand total of 16 bodies.

897
00:44:12,857 --> 00:44:17,137
That craft was allegedly
brought back to Los Alamos,
reassembled,

898
00:44:17,171 --> 00:44:21,589
and then the retrieval
operation or the reverse
engineering operation

899
00:44:21,624 --> 00:44:23,005
began at that point.

900
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,697
These are some
of the retrieval operations

901
00:44:25,732 --> 00:44:29,701
in cases that come to mind
that, if we could get
one of these,

902
00:44:29,736 --> 00:44:34,568
the evidence for one of these,
it would push this field
of ufology forward.

903
00:44:34,602 --> 00:44:38,192
There's a red line
in this whole process that
you're not allowed to cross.

904
00:44:38,227 --> 00:44:41,368
And the red line is, well,
the conspiracy line.

905
00:44:41,402 --> 00:44:44,026
The red line is basically
crash retrievals,

906
00:44:44,060 --> 00:44:46,200
because if you acknowledge

907
00:44:46,235 --> 00:44:48,582
that there had been retrievals
of this technology,

908
00:44:49,134 --> 00:44:50,480
and bodies,

909
00:44:50,515 --> 00:44:54,001
there is no way to avoid
the obvious conclusion

910
00:44:54,036 --> 00:44:55,554
that this is a conspiracy.

911
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:59,662
Areas of materials recovery
to the extent that
they have been

912
00:44:59,697 --> 00:45:03,321
recovered in crashes,
are heavily classified,

913
00:45:03,355 --> 00:45:05,530
so we don't have access
to that material.

914
00:45:07,946 --> 00:45:10,880
NARRATOR: We know
about programs
that have existed to study

915
00:45:10,915 --> 00:45:14,504
and attempt to
reverse engineer
this technology.

916
00:45:14,539 --> 00:45:17,749
The evidence has been
circumstantial at best.

917
00:45:17,784 --> 00:45:19,475
Until now.

918
00:45:19,509 --> 00:45:22,616
Included in
the 2017 media flurry,

919
00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:25,757
was an additional story
byThe New York Times.

920
00:45:25,792 --> 00:45:28,726
And they took the conversation
right to the edge,

921
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,590
of crash retrievals.
Right to the precipice.

922
00:45:31,625 --> 00:45:33,869
If they took one more step,
they're going off that cliff

923
00:45:33,903 --> 00:45:36,492
and we're talking about
genuine UFO cash retrievals.

924
00:45:36,526 --> 00:45:38,632
What we do know, and what we put
in The New York Times,

925
00:45:38,666 --> 00:45:42,429
and I'm pretty proud of this
because it was as far as
we could go,

926
00:45:42,463 --> 00:45:48,676
that was fully documented,
was that a congressional
committee's staff

927
00:45:48,711 --> 00:45:55,614
were briefed on with slides
referring to material recovery.
928
00:45:55,649 --> 00:45:59,239
Apparent material recovery
from crashed UFOs...

929
00:46:00,033 --> 00:46:02,829
off-Earth, off-planet vehicles.

930
00:46:02,863 --> 00:46:05,693
DOLAN: They quoted
Eric Davis, they quoted
Harry Reid,

931
00:46:05,728 --> 00:46:08,696
both very positively

932
00:46:08,731 --> 00:46:12,045
about UFO crash...
Can you imagine what that's like

933
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,910
for The New York Times
to talk about
UFO crash retrievals?

934
00:46:14,944 --> 00:46:17,257
NARRATOR: Senator Harry Reid
was quoted as saying

935
00:46:17,291 --> 00:46:20,363
that materials recovered
from off-world craft

936
00:46:20,398 --> 00:46:23,021
were studied as part
of the AAWSAP Program.

937
00:46:23,056 --> 00:46:26,059
After the story broke,
Senator Reid
strongly objected

938
00:46:26,093 --> 00:46:29,717
to some of the wording
of the story
and demanded a retraction.

939
00:46:29,752 --> 00:46:31,961
The verbiage was
changed slightly,

940
00:46:31,996 --> 00:46:35,896
butThe Times still sticks by
its original reporting.

941
00:46:35,931 --> 00:46:39,866
Stories in The New York Times
were fully documented,
with named sources.

942
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:43,283
We didn't put in information
that hid the origin.

943
00:46:43,317 --> 00:46:44,663
It was very transparent.

944
00:46:44,698 --> 00:46:46,320
We said where
we got the information,

945
00:46:46,355 --> 00:46:47,701
we had briefing slides.

946
00:46:47,735 --> 00:46:50,531
One was put into a story
that we wrote inThe Times.

947
00:46:50,566 --> 00:46:53,880
We actually had
the slide, you know,

948
00:46:53,914 --> 00:46:58,332
copied and and pictured
in The New York Times.

949
00:46:58,367 --> 00:47:01,577
NARRATOR: Dr Eric Davis
again made an appearance.

950
00:47:01,611 --> 00:47:04,822
This time, it was reported
that he delivered
a presentation
951
00:47:04,856 --> 00:47:07,031
behind the closed doors
of Congress,

952
00:47:07,065 --> 00:47:10,172
acknowledging that some
materials were recovered

953
00:47:10,206 --> 00:47:12,519
from off-world craft.

954
00:47:12,553 --> 00:47:15,694
Dr. Davis is quoted
elsewhere as saying,

955
00:47:15,729 --> 00:47:18,732
"We have crash retrievals
and they've been analyzed.

956
00:47:18,766 --> 00:47:22,667
"The program was terminated
for lack of progress
in reverse engineering."

957
00:47:23,633 --> 00:47:25,670
Because there is no way
at that point

958
00:47:25,704 --> 00:47:28,362
that you can pretend
there's something out there,

959
00:47:28,397 --> 00:47:30,986
but we don't know what they are.
Which has been a little

960
00:47:31,020 --> 00:47:33,747
pretend game that everyone's
been playing all this time.

961
00:47:33,781 --> 00:47:35,576
Elizondo plays that game

962
00:47:35,611 --> 00:47:36,750
'cause he has to.

963
00:47:36,784 --> 00:47:38,856
'Cause he knows how far
he's allowed to go.

964
00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:41,686
I'm not a whistleblower,
and as far as a leaker,

965
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:44,171
I'll be damned if someone's
going to call me a leaker,
because a leaker's

966
00:47:44,206 --> 00:47:45,759
somebody who takes
classified information

967
00:47:45,793 --> 00:47:48,417
and provides it
in an unauthorized manner

968
00:47:48,451 --> 00:47:50,695
for the purpose of disclosure.

969
00:47:50,729 --> 00:47:53,042
I've never done that,
and I never will do that.

970
00:47:53,077 --> 00:47:55,665
Do you think
the U.S. Government has

971
00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:58,082
debris from a UFO
in its possession?

972
00:47:58,116 --> 00:48:01,879
Unfortunately, Tucker,
I really have to be careful
of my NDA.

973
00:48:01,913 --> 00:48:04,467
I really can't go into
a lot more detail than that.

974
00:48:04,502 --> 00:48:07,885
-Okay.
-But simply put, yes.
975
00:48:10,335 --> 00:48:12,372
NARRATOR: Chris Melon,
former undersecretary

976
00:48:12,406 --> 00:48:17,066
of Defense for Intelligence,
said in aWashington Post
Op Ed,

977
00:48:17,101 --> 00:48:20,449
that the government
had not been studying
the UFO topic,

978
00:48:20,483 --> 00:48:23,693
and because of his position,
he would know if it was.

979
00:48:23,728 --> 00:48:28,043
But when we pressed him on it,
he made a stunning statement.

980
00:48:28,077 --> 00:48:33,358
There's a bona fide
issue there, and I
understand that...

981
00:48:33,393 --> 00:48:36,914
I was part of a process
that was supposedly reviewing

982
00:48:36,948 --> 00:48:40,193
all of the Defense Department
special access programs,

983
00:48:40,227 --> 00:48:44,611
and I'd also...
People don't generally
understand this taxonomy,

984
00:48:44,645 --> 00:48:48,304
but there is
a world of programs within
the Defense Department

985
00:48:48,339 --> 00:48:51,411
that is entirely separate
and distinct from
the Intelligence community,

986
00:48:51,445 --> 00:48:53,585
and is not shared with
the Intelligence community.

987
00:48:53,620 --> 00:48:55,277
And to some extent, vice versa.

988
00:48:55,311 --> 00:48:58,418
In addition,
there's a group of programs at
the Department of Energy,

989
00:48:58,452 --> 00:49:00,868
and again,
those are not generally shared.

990
00:49:00,903 --> 00:49:04,424
So, there's sort of
three galaxies which intersect
to some degree

991
00:49:04,458 --> 00:49:06,944
of very tightly held programs.

992
00:49:06,978 --> 00:49:13,019
I was very deep on
two of the tree,
had some access to the third.

993
00:49:13,053 --> 00:49:16,401
But as I've often said
to people, "You don't know,
what you don't know."

994
00:49:16,436 --> 00:49:22,304
And you know, there is
a possibility that there is
some very small...

995
00:49:22,338 --> 00:49:26,998
tightly held close hold group,
for example, that has
some crash debris or something,

996
00:49:27,033 --> 00:49:28,275
and was working that...

997
00:49:28,310 --> 00:49:31,037
The rest of the department,
and even we didn't know about

998
00:49:31,071 --> 00:49:33,798
at the Special Access
Program Oversight Committee.

999
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,252
So now there are reports
of perhaps debris.

1000
00:49:39,286 --> 00:49:42,427
Debris left over from UFOs.

1001
00:49:42,462 --> 00:49:45,396
NARRATOR: Even with
thinly veiled admissions
from those in the know,

1002
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:49,883
and evidence pointing
to corporations having
received materials to study,

1003
00:49:49,917 --> 00:49:53,059
details about any of these
physical materials

1004
00:49:53,093 --> 00:49:54,922
have been unverifiable.

1005
00:49:54,957 --> 00:49:56,959
Recently, that changed.

1006
00:50:01,446 --> 00:50:05,795
UFO investigator Anthony Regalia
finally received a reply

1007
00:50:05,830 --> 00:50:09,696
to a Freedom of Information Act
request that he filed
back in 2017,

1008
00:50:09,730 --> 00:50:15,702
pertaining to "Physical debris
recovered by personnel
of the Department of Defense

1009
00:50:15,736 --> 00:50:19,050
"as residue, flotsam,
shot-off material

1010
00:50:19,085 --> 00:50:22,640
"or crashed UAP,
or unidentified flying objects."

1011
00:50:22,674 --> 00:50:25,332
NARRATOR: After two years
of going back and forth,

1012
00:50:25,367 --> 00:50:27,403
and Ragalia's threat
of lawsuits,

1013
00:50:27,438 --> 00:50:30,475
the DIA admitted that
it had documents

1014
00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:33,961
responsive to the request
on recovered debris,

1015
00:50:33,996 --> 00:50:38,483
and its analysis and a program
under which
it was administered.

1016
00:50:38,518 --> 00:50:43,592
Included in the FOIA release,
are reports about a
variety of advanced materials.

1017
00:50:43,626 --> 00:50:47,320
The reports speculated
about how they may be created,

1018
00:50:47,354 --> 00:50:49,356
and what they may be
capable of.

1019
00:50:49,391 --> 00:50:52,670
One is a well-known alloy,
called Nitinol.

1020
00:50:52,704 --> 00:50:56,950
It's a shapeable,
memory retaining
titanium alloy.

1021
00:50:56,984 --> 00:51:02,059
Nitinol enjoys wide use today
in a variety of applications.

1022
00:51:02,093 --> 00:51:05,614
But its capabilities bare
similarity to the many accounts

1023
00:51:05,648 --> 00:51:09,238
about the so called
Roswell memory metal.

1024
00:51:09,273 --> 00:51:10,895
Hey, is it from a crash?

1025
00:51:12,517 --> 00:51:13,553
How do you know about that?

1026
00:51:13,587 --> 00:51:14,761
We heard about it on the radio.

1027
00:51:14,795 --> 00:51:16,107
Everybody's talking about it.

1028
00:51:20,180 --> 00:51:21,078
Abracadabra.

1029
00:51:24,184 --> 00:51:26,393
How'd it do that?

1030
00:51:26,428 --> 00:51:30,156
NARRATOR: The origins
of Nitinol help make a case
for stories

1031
00:51:30,190 --> 00:51:32,019
of extraterrestrial technology

1032
00:51:32,054 --> 00:51:35,161
being recovered and delivered
to science and industry.

1033
00:51:35,195 --> 00:51:40,614
It was supposedly invented
in a naval weapons research lab
in 1959.

1034
00:51:40,649 --> 00:51:44,411
But its origins have been
traced back even further,
to a corporation

1035
00:51:44,446 --> 00:51:47,034
called
Battelle Memorial Institute.

1036
00:51:47,069 --> 00:51:49,071
Since the late 1940s,

1037
00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:52,557
Battelle maintained a contract
to analyze metal samples

1038
00:51:52,592 --> 00:51:55,802
provided by Wright Patterson
Air Force Base.

1039
00:51:55,836 --> 00:52:00,565
Another is a class of materials
called metallic glass.

1040
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,257
[COMPUTER BEEPING]

1041
00:52:04,362 --> 00:52:06,675
Transparent aluminum?

1042
00:52:06,709 --> 00:52:09,333
That's the ticket, laddie.

1043
00:52:09,367 --> 00:52:12,681
NARRATOR: The material
described in the Star Trek
filmVoyage Home

1044
00:52:12,715 --> 00:52:16,547
in 1986 actually exists.

1045
00:52:16,581 --> 00:52:18,756
We find upon further research,

1046
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:21,931
that the original patents
for this type of metallic glass

1047
00:52:21,966 --> 00:52:24,865
was initially applied for
in 1981

1048
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:27,489
by the Raytheon Corporation.

1049
00:52:27,523 --> 00:52:30,492
These guys in the Lockheed
and TRW,

1050
00:52:30,526 --> 00:52:32,977
and McDonnell Douglas
or Boeing,

1051
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,946
General Electric, Raytheon...

1052
00:52:38,396 --> 00:52:42,849
Look, there's no way
they're going to voluntarily
let this happen.

1053
00:52:45,369 --> 00:52:46,646
NARRATOR: There's more.

1054
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,821
We now enter the stunning world
of meta materials.

1055
00:52:49,856 --> 00:52:54,378
In this recording,
from an interview Lue Elizondo
gave to the MUFON journal.

1056
00:52:54,412 --> 00:52:58,554
He discusses the finer points
of the materials claims.
1057
00:52:58,589 --> 00:53:02,696
ELIZONDO: So,
it was never about
unidentified metal alloys.

1058
00:53:02,731 --> 00:53:04,836
Any second year
metal artist will tell you

1059
00:53:04,871 --> 00:53:07,253
elements are elements,
and we can figure it out.

1060
00:53:07,287 --> 00:53:11,464
What was actually discussed
was certain meta materials

1061
00:53:11,498 --> 00:53:18,574
in which they're isotopic
ratios at the molecular level
are so unique,

1062
00:53:18,609 --> 00:53:22,820
and so precise,
based on the complexity

1063
00:53:22,854 --> 00:53:27,031
that the origins of those
materials remain unknown.

1064
00:53:27,065 --> 00:53:30,448
If we do encounter
extraterrestrial materials,

1065
00:53:30,483 --> 00:53:33,969
they would have isotopic ratios
that are not found on the earth

1066
00:53:34,003 --> 00:53:36,489
because of their exposure
to cosmic rays,

1067
00:53:36,523 --> 00:53:40,251
different kinds of manufacturer
they would differ from us.

1068
00:53:40,286 --> 00:53:46,223
And so that's one way to analyze
the fact that these are,
in fact extraterrestrial,

1069
00:53:46,257 --> 00:53:48,915
because they have different
isotopic ratios.

1070
00:53:51,849 --> 00:53:55,162
NARRATOR: There are more
space age materials
described in the reports

1071
00:53:55,197 --> 00:53:57,958
that the Defense Intelligence
Agency acknowledges.

1072
00:53:57,993 --> 00:54:01,065
One type may be
used to slow down light.

1073
00:54:01,099 --> 00:54:03,826
And even bring light
to a complete standstill.

1074
00:54:03,861 --> 00:54:09,729
Another may induce invisibility
by manipulating refraction,
reflectivity,

1075
00:54:09,763 --> 00:54:11,938
and increasing
light absorption.

1076
00:54:11,972 --> 00:54:15,321
Meta materials allow you to,
in principle,

1077
00:54:15,355 --> 00:54:20,084
make objects invisible.
In principle,
allow you to stop light.

1078
00:54:20,118 --> 00:54:22,224
In principle, allow you
to magnify things

1079
00:54:22,259 --> 00:54:25,192
beyond what we can do
with present day technology.

1080
00:54:25,227 --> 00:54:28,023
We can do that
in the microwave range.

1081
00:54:28,057 --> 00:54:31,647
We have not yet done it
in the optical frequencies.

1082
00:54:31,682 --> 00:54:34,616
NARRATOR: Another has
the interesting ability
to compress

1083
00:54:34,650 --> 00:54:36,549
electromagnetic energy.

1084
00:54:36,583 --> 00:54:38,896
Things that we would
consider impossible

1085
00:54:38,930 --> 00:54:40,932
would become child's play

1086
00:54:40,967 --> 00:54:46,628
if you have a technology
that is centuries
more advanced than us.

1087
00:54:46,662 --> 00:54:50,321
NARRATOR: Still another
exhibits a particular
tunable resonance,

1088
00:54:50,356 --> 00:54:53,359
which was likely determined
during fabrication.

1089
00:54:53,393 --> 00:54:56,707
You see, if these objects
come from a civilization

1090
00:54:56,741 --> 00:55:00,055
more advanced than ours,
they have mastered the art
1091
00:55:00,089 --> 00:55:03,679
of manipulating
individual atoms.

1092
00:55:03,714 --> 00:55:07,269
NARRATOR: The reports
on these materials
have something in common.

1093
00:55:07,304 --> 00:55:10,307
They all talk about
what the materials might do,

1094
00:55:10,341 --> 00:55:12,343
and their possible uses.

1095
00:55:12,378 --> 00:55:14,690
This seems to be
an indirect confirmation

1096
00:55:14,725 --> 00:55:18,453
that we didn't create them,
and we're not sure
what they do.

1097
00:55:21,041 --> 00:55:24,907
And they have to be analyzed
on several levels.

1098
00:55:24,942 --> 00:55:27,738
First, they have to be analyzed
spectroscopically.

1099
00:55:27,772 --> 00:55:30,016
So we know what they're made of.

1100
00:55:30,050 --> 00:55:34,538
So let's say that there is...
There are materials

1101
00:55:34,572 --> 00:55:37,195
that some other civilization
has created

1102
00:55:37,230 --> 00:55:40,440
and that they have
atomic grade printing

1103
00:55:40,475 --> 00:55:43,029
that we don't have today,

1104
00:55:43,063 --> 00:55:47,033
the only way to understand it
is to de-assemble it
atom by atom.

1105
00:55:47,067 --> 00:55:50,692
NARRATOR: Dr. Gary Nolan
is a scientist
at Stanford University.

1106
00:55:50,726 --> 00:55:54,868
He publicly stated that
a new technique
for mass spectrometry,

1107
00:55:54,903 --> 00:55:57,284
that he developed
attracted the attention

1108
00:55:57,319 --> 00:56:00,322
of those in possession
of UFO materials.

1109
00:56:00,357 --> 00:56:03,118
GARY NOLAN: Well, there is
one technology

1110
00:56:03,152 --> 00:56:06,570
that's in my lab called
Secondary Ion Mass Spec,

1111
00:56:06,604 --> 00:56:11,437
and we developed
a company around it
and the technology for using it

1112
00:56:11,471 --> 00:56:15,820
to read biopsy material
from patients, right?

1113
00:56:15,855 --> 00:56:19,272
And we had a way of
labeling the biopsies
1114
00:56:19,306 --> 00:56:25,658
with metal tags delivered via
antibodies, and that would
light up the tissue

1115
00:56:25,692 --> 00:56:29,903
in a way that would tell you
something about the distribution
of those proteins

1116
00:56:29,938 --> 00:56:32,596
in cancer cells
and immune system cells.

1117
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:35,322
That's a very
successful technology
that's worked very well.

1118
00:56:35,357 --> 00:56:39,672
It turns out that it was
tuned to look at metals...

1119
00:56:39,706 --> 00:56:42,088
right, because we were
using the metal tags

1120
00:56:42,122 --> 00:56:47,127
and so when in discussions
with Jacques and others,

1121
00:56:47,162 --> 00:56:49,302
that they said they had
these pieces of metal.

1122
00:56:49,336 --> 00:56:51,580
Well, I have an instrument
that's perfectly tuned

1123
00:56:51,615 --> 00:56:53,548
to look at metals,
so let's do it.

1124
00:56:53,582 --> 00:56:57,897
But what that stuff consisted of
and why they think
it's off-planet,
1125
00:56:57,931 --> 00:57:00,347
and, you know,
what the testing showed about

1126
00:57:00,382 --> 00:57:05,007
the possibility
that nothing like that
could appear on Earth.

1127
00:57:05,042 --> 00:57:07,872
That's all stuff we were not
able to get access to.

1128
00:57:07,907 --> 00:57:09,149
We don't know.

1129
00:57:09,184 --> 00:57:11,048
NARRATOR: Upon release
of the FOIA request,

1130
00:57:11,082 --> 00:57:15,639
there was evidence of
internal commotion inside
the DIA and the Pentagon.

1131
00:57:15,673 --> 00:57:17,157
You know, the powers that be...

1132
00:57:17,192 --> 00:57:18,607
I mean, there are such people.

1133
00:57:18,642 --> 00:57:20,264
I think they realized

1134
00:57:20,298 --> 00:57:22,059
"All right. You just went,
you went actually,
as far as you can go,

1135
00:57:22,093 --> 00:57:23,578
"and in fact,
you went a little too far.

1136
00:57:23,612 --> 00:57:25,234
"We're going to dial it back."
1137
00:57:25,269 --> 00:57:27,996
NARRATOR: Susan Gough,
a Pentagon spokesperson,

1138
00:57:28,030 --> 00:57:29,722
said that although
she was aware

1139
00:57:29,756 --> 00:57:34,002
of the social media chatter,
the information provided
by the DIA

1140
00:57:34,036 --> 00:57:37,730
actually relates in some way
to an advanced weapons program

1141
00:57:37,764 --> 00:57:39,525
and not UFO items.

1142
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:41,216
But if you start with
different assumptions

1143
00:57:41,250 --> 00:57:43,114
about how something
might operate,

1144
00:57:43,149 --> 00:57:46,808
you can come up with
things that another

1145
00:57:46,842 --> 00:57:51,951
equally advanced civilization,
America, let's say,
or Western civilization,

1146
00:57:51,985 --> 00:57:53,884
doesn't understand how it works.

1147
00:57:53,918 --> 00:57:56,818
But that doesn't mean
it came from E.T.

1148
00:57:56,852 --> 00:57:59,890
But I suspect that
Freedom of Information Act
1149
00:57:59,924 --> 00:58:01,547
is talking about something
a little different.

1150
00:58:04,722 --> 00:58:07,760
NARRATOR: Some of
the main players
in the material story

1151
00:58:07,794 --> 00:58:12,558
were making new statements
that changed
previously reported facts.

1152
00:58:12,592 --> 00:58:13,420
Right. This is a counter...

1153
00:58:13,455 --> 00:58:15,388
This is
The Empire Strikes Back.

1154
00:58:15,422 --> 00:58:18,978
This is what we're seeing.
You're seeing
the major establishment,

1155
00:58:19,012 --> 00:58:21,118
which was on the back foot
for over three years

1156
00:58:21,152 --> 00:58:24,121
because of the offensive of
the UFO faction.

1157
00:58:24,155 --> 00:58:26,986
They were on retreat.
They've gathered
their resources.

1158
00:58:27,020 --> 00:58:29,022
They're like, you know,
"We don't really want...

1159
00:58:29,057 --> 00:58:31,577
"We can't go any farther
than we've gone."
1160
00:58:31,611 --> 00:58:34,234
Harry Reid walked it back
as far as with
The New York Times

1161
00:58:34,269 --> 00:58:39,101
about Lockheed
having artifacts and so,
they get these phone calls.

1162
00:58:40,033 --> 00:58:41,828
I mean, why else...

1163
00:58:41,863 --> 00:58:44,831
You know, catch yourself
after the fact and go,

1164
00:58:44,866 --> 00:58:45,763
"I should have never said that."

1165
00:58:45,798 --> 00:58:47,006
And there's a pattern here.

1166
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:52,908
It always pertains to
physical evidence.

1167
00:58:52,943 --> 00:58:54,634
And in our
New York Timesstory,

1168
00:58:54,669 --> 00:58:57,464
we said that a hangar was built

1169
00:58:58,638 --> 00:59:03,747
to contain materials, okay.

1170
00:59:03,781 --> 00:59:08,130
We didn't say that materials
were obtained
and put in the hangar.

1171
00:59:08,165 --> 00:59:10,581
You did an interview with
Jesse Michaels.

1172
00:59:10,616 --> 00:59:14,171
-In that interview, you laid out
some of the materials.
-Mmm-hmm.

1173
00:59:14,205 --> 00:59:16,553
Very excitingly,
we have parts...

1174
00:59:16,587 --> 00:59:19,797
Okay, the parts were
a little anti-climactic
and small,

1175
00:59:19,832 --> 00:59:23,076
but he claims to have
much bigger parts
that we can't see

1176
00:59:23,111 --> 00:59:25,458
due to national security
sensitivities.

1177
00:59:25,492 --> 00:59:28,461
But then when you did
the interview with Lex,

1178
00:59:28,495 --> 00:59:32,223
you said that she had materials
just from, like, Jacques Vilet

1179
00:59:32,258 --> 00:59:33,915
which obviously
wouldn't be classified,

1180
00:59:33,949 --> 00:59:36,573
and from TTSA,
which wouldn't be classified.

1181
00:59:36,607 --> 00:59:41,508
There's two classes of materials
that I've been given by people,

1182
00:59:41,543 --> 00:59:43,925
and they're not given by, like,
the government or anything.

1183
00:59:43,959 --> 00:59:46,065
So have you studied
classified materials,

1184
00:59:46,099 --> 00:59:47,238
but you just don't have them?

1185
00:59:47,273 --> 00:59:48,826
I just shouldn't
say anything more.

1186
00:59:48,861 --> 00:59:50,000
You shouldn't say
anything about that.

1187
00:59:50,034 --> 00:59:51,484
Okay, all right.

1188
00:59:51,518 --> 00:59:53,210
You can put that on there.
I just can't say anything more.

1189
00:59:53,244 --> 00:59:54,521
Right. No, that's fine.

1190
00:59:54,556 --> 00:59:57,283
It might have been
an accidental truth moment.

1191
01:00:01,805 --> 01:00:06,741
NARRATOR: FOIA responses
are based on reacting
to very specific wording.

1192
01:00:06,775 --> 01:00:10,468
The FOIA response from the DIA
specifically refers

1193
01:00:10,503 --> 01:00:14,956
to recovered materials from
UFOs being studied
at Bigelow Aerospace.

1194
01:00:14,990 --> 01:00:20,133
This is official confirmation
that these studies
indeed occurred.

1195
01:00:20,168 --> 01:00:21,963
Bigelow Aerospace is massive.

1196
01:00:21,997 --> 01:00:25,069
It's surrounded on most sides
by these gigantic vacant lots.

1197
01:00:25,104 --> 01:00:29,211
It's surrounded by
multiple layers of fencing,
including barbed wire,

1198
01:00:29,246 --> 01:00:33,146
video surveillance,
24-hour security guards
everywhere.

1199
01:00:33,181 --> 01:00:35,355
This place is a fortress.

1200
01:00:35,390 --> 01:00:40,602
NARRATOR: Multiple reports also
seemed to confirm the presence
of materials at the facility.

1201
01:00:40,637 --> 01:00:44,295
But after the release
of the documents,
the story changed.

1202
01:00:44,330 --> 01:00:48,403
REPORTER: For years,
one of the secret studies
was carried out by BAASS,

1203
01:00:48,437 --> 01:00:51,958
a Las Vegas operation
hidden within
Bigelow Aerospace.

1204
01:00:51,993 --> 01:00:55,237
Documents first reported
by the I-Team show that BAASS

1205
01:00:55,272 --> 01:00:59,000
landed a contract with the DIA,
and one of the objectives

1206
01:00:59,034 --> 01:01:01,623
was to study
so called meta materials.

1207
01:01:01,658 --> 01:01:03,970
Multiple sources
have confirmed to us

1208
01:01:04,005 --> 01:01:07,456
there was a weird piece
of something at
the Bigelow plant.

1209
01:01:07,491 --> 01:01:11,806
New York Timesreported
that you modified
your facility here

1210
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,154
in order to house some material
from somewhere else.

1211
01:01:15,741 --> 01:01:16,673
Did you ever have it?

1212
01:01:18,122 --> 01:01:20,090
-Never had any.
-Did you ever see it?

1213
01:01:20,711 --> 01:01:22,955
Um...

1214
01:01:22,989 --> 01:01:27,028
But... I... you know,
do you see...

1215
01:01:27,062 --> 01:01:28,167
Do you see...

1216
01:01:30,928 --> 01:01:36,071
It's the old Raiders of
the Lost Arkwarehouse scene.

1217
01:01:36,106 --> 01:01:37,728
"We've got our top people
working on it."

1218
01:01:37,763 --> 01:01:39,765
"Who are your top people?"
"Oh, they're top."

1219
01:01:39,799 --> 01:01:43,907
NARRATOR: In March 2022,
the Defense Intelligence Agency

1220
01:01:43,941 --> 01:01:47,358
responded to
another FOIA request
that demanded information

1221
01:01:47,393 --> 01:01:50,465
about the work of AATIP
and its previous versions.

1222
01:01:50,499 --> 01:01:55,470
The result was 1500 pages
that included
38 independent papers

1223
01:01:55,504 --> 01:01:58,059
about potential
advanced technology.

1224
01:01:58,093 --> 01:02:02,201
The authors of
some of these reports,
are many of the same people

1225
01:02:02,235 --> 01:02:05,031
that have been involved
in secret UFO programs

1226
01:02:05,066 --> 01:02:07,378
all the way back
to the late 1960s.

1227
01:02:07,413 --> 01:02:12,729
These reports came in the form
of defense intelligence
reference documents.

1228
01:02:12,763 --> 01:02:15,490
Some of the technologies
that were explored

1229
01:02:15,524 --> 01:02:18,458
include advanced
nuclear propulsion,

1230
01:02:18,493 --> 01:02:21,530
for manned deep space missions.

1231
01:02:21,565 --> 01:02:24,326
Aneutronic Fusion Propulsion,

1232
01:02:24,361 --> 01:02:28,227
Pulsed High-Power
Microwave Technology,

1233
01:02:28,261 --> 01:02:31,748
Antigravity for
Aerospace Applications.

1234
01:02:31,782 --> 01:02:35,268
I think when talking about
extraterrestrial civilizations,

1235
01:02:35,303 --> 01:02:37,995
we have to be open
to the fact that
their technology

1236
01:02:38,030 --> 01:02:42,275
is thousands of years
more advanced
than our technology.

1237
01:02:42,310 --> 01:02:45,589
But then the question is,
is it possible that we,

1238
01:02:45,623 --> 01:02:51,112
that we humans can also partake
of some of these
advanced technologies?

1239
01:02:51,146 --> 01:02:55,012
NARRATOR: Space-Communication
Implications of
Quantum Entanglement

1240
01:02:55,047 --> 01:03:01,053
and Nonlocality,
High-Frequency Gravitational
Wave Communications.

1241
01:03:01,087 --> 01:03:03,883
I take two objects,

1242
01:03:03,918 --> 01:03:07,369
two particles that are
quantumly entangled,

1243
01:03:07,404 --> 01:03:10,787
and if I do something
to this one, this one responds.

1244
01:03:10,821 --> 01:03:14,307
And if you separate those two
by a foot...

1245
01:03:14,342 --> 01:03:16,585
when I do something here,
something happens here.

1246
01:03:16,620 --> 01:03:18,001
But something
even more magical happens

1247
01:03:18,035 --> 01:03:20,969
that when I take these objects,
and I put them one here

1248
01:03:21,004 --> 01:03:23,696
and one at the farthest end
of the visible universe,

1249
01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:26,872
that direction,
13.5 billion light years,

1250
01:03:26,906 --> 01:03:28,149
and I take the other particle,

1251
01:03:28,183 --> 01:03:32,636
I put it in that direction,
13.5 billion light years away,

1252
01:03:32,670 --> 01:03:34,465
when I do this,
1253
01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:37,952
this one responds
instantaneously.

1254
01:03:37,986 --> 01:03:42,611
NARRATOR:
Traversable Wormholes,
Stargates and Negative Energy.

1255
01:03:42,646 --> 01:03:46,063
Special relativity says
you cannot break
the light barrier.

1256
01:03:46,098 --> 01:03:49,584
But special relativity
has a loophole.

1257
01:03:49,618 --> 01:03:52,104
The loophole is
general relativity,

1258
01:03:52,138 --> 01:03:53,726
the theory of gravity,

1259
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,385
whereby you can bend time
and space into a pretzel

1260
01:03:57,419 --> 01:04:00,250
if you have enough matter
and energy.

1261
01:04:00,284 --> 01:04:06,118
An energy which we won't have,
perhaps for another 100,000
to one million years.

1262
01:04:06,152 --> 01:04:08,396
So it's not for us.

1263
01:04:08,430 --> 01:04:11,295
Perhaps for an
extraterrestrial civilization,

1264
01:04:11,330 --> 01:04:13,332
but it's not for us.

1265
01:04:13,366 --> 01:04:15,575
NARRATOR: Warp Drive,
Dark Energy

1266
01:04:15,610 --> 01:04:18,337
and the manipulation
of extra dimensions.

1267
01:04:18,371 --> 01:04:23,756
We have to be open
to the possibility that there
are other dimensions,

1268
01:04:23,790 --> 01:04:25,240
and shortcuts.

1269
01:04:25,275 --> 01:04:29,072
Perhaps shortcuts between
different universes.

1270
01:04:29,106 --> 01:04:30,418
Now, of course, moving through

1271
01:04:30,452 --> 01:04:33,283
these higher dimensions,
would require a technology

1272
01:04:33,317 --> 01:04:36,217
much more advanced
than anything we have.

1273
01:04:36,251 --> 01:04:40,462
NARRATOR: Concepts for
extracting energy from
the quantum vacuum.

1274
01:04:40,497 --> 01:04:42,775
You would have to be
a very advanced civilization

1275
01:04:42,809 --> 01:04:46,572
to get net usable energy
from nothing.

1276
01:04:46,606 --> 01:04:48,850
In other words, it's not for us.

1277
01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:52,716
That doesn't mean
an advanced civilization
can't do it.

1278
01:04:52,750 --> 01:04:56,133
NARRATOR: Quantum computing,
and utilizing
organic molecules

1279
01:04:56,168 --> 01:04:58,687
in automation technology.

1280
01:04:58,722 --> 01:05:02,346
Technological approaches
to controlling
external devices,

1281
01:05:02,381 --> 01:05:05,004
in the absence of limb
operated interfaces.

1282
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:09,491
Our most advanced understanding
of the brain comes from BCI,

1283
01:05:09,526 --> 01:05:12,253
Brain Computer Interface.

1284
01:05:12,287 --> 01:05:15,981
We can take a chip, put it on
the surface of the brain,

1285
01:05:16,015 --> 01:05:19,087
have that chip connected
to a laptop computer

1286
01:05:19,122 --> 01:05:23,678
that then analyzes the impulses
of the brain and deciphers it,

1287
01:05:23,712 --> 01:05:26,750
and then uses it
to control something.

1288
01:05:26,784 --> 01:05:29,753
And so you can imagine
what we can do today

1289
01:05:29,787 --> 01:05:33,136
and then extrapolate
to the future.

1290
01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:36,760
NARRATOR: Aerospace
applications of
programmable matter.

1291
01:05:36,794 --> 01:05:40,626
If you could design something,
atom by atom,

1292
01:05:40,660 --> 01:05:44,078
and position things
atom by atom,

1293
01:05:44,112 --> 01:05:47,598
then there's a lot more
we could do with
material science

1294
01:05:47,633 --> 01:05:49,497
than we can do today.

1295
01:05:49,531 --> 01:05:54,709
NARRATOR: Ultra capacitors
as energy and power
storage devices.

1296
01:05:54,743 --> 01:05:57,815
Role of superconductors
in gravity research.

1297
01:05:57,850 --> 01:06:04,270
Most of what we create today,
in even the superconductor areas

1298
01:06:04,305 --> 01:06:07,066
is basically recipes.

1299
01:06:07,101 --> 01:06:08,861
They are not designs.
1300
01:06:08,895 --> 01:06:12,934
NARRATOR: Many of these
technologies are beyond
the realm of current science.

1301
01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:15,178
These technologies
are discussed

1302
01:06:15,212 --> 01:06:19,078
as if someone knows that
they are entirely possible,

1303
01:06:19,113 --> 01:06:22,288
even in some stage
of successful development.

1304
01:06:22,323 --> 01:06:25,912
I will tell you unequivocally
if a man like Robert Bigelow

1305
01:06:25,947 --> 01:06:29,640
were to ask you,
to come on board
and to do something,

1306
01:06:29,675 --> 01:06:35,439
man, I would do it
in the blink of an eye.

1307
01:06:35,474 --> 01:06:37,441
It would be almost reflexive.

1308
01:06:37,476 --> 01:06:39,236
When do we start? Let's go.

1309
01:06:39,271 --> 01:06:41,514
He's a good man,
and he's also a patriot.

1310
01:06:41,549 --> 01:06:43,792
Machinery really does exist.

1311
01:06:45,070 --> 01:06:47,037
Does exist.

1312
01:06:47,072 --> 01:06:53,147
That the problem has been
the inability to back engineer

1313
01:06:53,181 --> 01:06:57,979
and I kind of think
that some...

1314
01:06:58,014 --> 01:07:01,465
Some things require
a weightless environment.

1315
01:07:10,785 --> 01:07:12,476
NARRATOR: It is
generally accepted

1316
01:07:12,511 --> 01:07:15,548
that the New Narrative
broke in late 2017.

1317
01:07:15,583 --> 01:07:19,828
It was actually
Robert Bigelow, who made
spellbinding revelations

1318
01:07:19,863 --> 01:07:24,074
before anybody knew
that he was involved
in government contracts

1319
01:07:24,109 --> 01:07:25,627
to study UFOs.

1320
01:07:29,355 --> 01:07:30,908
Do you believe in aliens?

1321
01:07:30,943 --> 01:07:33,773
I am absolutely convinced.
That's all there is to it.

1322
01:07:33,808 --> 01:07:36,776
Do you also believe
that UFOs have come to Earth?

1323
01:07:36,811 --> 01:07:40,366
There has been,
and is an existing presence
an E.T. presence.
1324
01:07:40,401 --> 01:07:42,575
You have the interview
that Robert Bigelow did
on 60 Minutes.

1325
01:07:42,610 --> 01:07:45,440
Really, an amazing interview.

1326
01:07:45,475 --> 01:07:49,927
This is one of the most
knowledgeable people
on this planet,

1327
01:07:49,962 --> 01:07:52,275
in my view,
on the subject of UFOs,

1328
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:55,450
He's also a billionaire,
and he's also got a lot of
influence in this world.

1329
01:07:55,485 --> 01:07:58,074
And here he is saying,
aliens are real

1330
01:07:58,108 --> 01:08:00,455
and indeed they are actually
walking among us.

1331
01:08:00,490 --> 01:08:03,044
NARRATOR:
His unshakable statement
regarding the reality

1332
01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:05,460
of an extraterrestrial
presence,

1333
01:08:05,495 --> 01:08:08,014
drew some media reaction.

1334
01:08:08,049 --> 01:08:10,569
Its significance did not
become clear

1335
01:08:10,603 --> 01:08:13,123
until the story of
Bigelow Aerospace

1336
01:08:13,158 --> 01:08:16,712
and its role in AATIP
began to unfold.

1337
01:08:16,746 --> 01:08:21,476
The New York Timescame out
with a couple of articles
essentially downplaying any E.T.

1338
01:08:21,511 --> 01:08:23,167
component of these sightings,

1339
01:08:23,202 --> 01:08:27,137
but also playing down the fact
that they may be
Russian or Chinese

1340
01:08:27,172 --> 01:08:34,800
and also playing down the fact
that these are advanced
U.S. classified prototypes.

1341
01:08:34,834 --> 01:08:36,457
If they're going to play
all of those things down,

1342
01:08:36,491 --> 01:08:41,393
then I would ask,
what gets played up?
Because there is nothing left.

1343
01:08:41,426 --> 01:08:44,189
NARRATOR: Confronted with
the challenge of weaving
Robert Bigelow's

1344
01:08:44,223 --> 01:08:45,707
informed beliefs

1345
01:08:45,742 --> 01:08:48,124
into the story Chris Mellon
had revealed,

1346
01:08:48,157 --> 01:08:51,299
-Mellon said this,
-There aren't many people

1347
01:08:51,334 --> 01:08:55,786
associated with
the establishment
who are so bold

1348
01:08:55,821 --> 01:09:00,032
and willing to make
statements like that.

1349
01:09:00,066 --> 01:09:05,140
Many of the Navy pilots
themselves who've engaged
these crafts

1350
01:09:05,175 --> 01:09:09,317
go there because they can't
conceive of any
other explanation, frankly.

1351
01:09:09,352 --> 01:09:12,907
NARRATOR: When Lue Elizondo
was asked about
Bigelow statements,

1352
01:09:12,941 --> 01:09:16,048
his response corroborated
Bigelow's position.

1353
01:09:16,082 --> 01:09:19,015
He has his own space stations
in space.

1354
01:09:19,050 --> 01:09:20,259
People say
"What do you mean?"

1355
01:09:20,294 --> 01:09:24,332
Yeah, he has his own,
right now, in space.

1356
01:09:24,367 --> 01:09:27,370
I mean, I don't know who else
has done that, and by the way,

1357
01:09:27,404 --> 01:09:31,822
he's done it for a long time,
so give the guy some credit.

1358
01:09:31,857 --> 01:09:33,617
He knows
what he's talking about.

1359
01:09:35,861 --> 01:09:39,865
They have stated flatly
"They're not one of ours."

1360
01:09:39,898 --> 01:09:42,970
Then the question is,
whose are they?

1361
01:09:43,005 --> 01:09:45,388
NARRATOR: All of
the people involved in
the current narrative

1362
01:09:45,422 --> 01:09:47,183
are deliberately
stopping short

1363
01:09:47,217 --> 01:09:52,291
of identifying the phenomenon
as originating
from extraterrestrials.

1364
01:09:52,326 --> 01:09:56,709
We have all these tales
going back centuries, millennia,

1365
01:09:56,744 --> 01:09:59,987
about visitations
and strange beings.

1366
01:10:00,023 --> 01:10:04,476
Maybe it's a record of visits
from alien civilizations.

1367
01:10:04,510 --> 01:10:08,825
You can't rule out the fact
that, yeah, maybe we have
been visited in the past.

1368
01:10:08,859 --> 01:10:10,240
You can't rule it out.
1369
01:10:10,275 --> 01:10:14,071
So you say one by one,
they're not natural phenomena.

1370
01:10:15,487 --> 01:10:16,867
They're not weather balloons.

1371
01:10:16,902 --> 01:10:18,144
They're not U.S. technology.

1372
01:10:18,179 --> 01:10:20,008
They're not Russian.
They're not Chinese.

1373
01:10:20,940 --> 01:10:22,563
They're not optical illusions.

1374
01:10:22,597 --> 01:10:26,118
They're not mental illness
on the part of the people
who report them.

1375
01:10:26,152 --> 01:10:28,844
Because these are our most
highly trained experts

1376
01:10:28,879 --> 01:10:30,880
who are reporting these things,
and they've been caught on,

1377
01:10:30,916 --> 01:10:35,748
as I said, Navy instrumentation.
So what are you left with?

1378
01:10:35,782 --> 01:10:37,335
Well, no one is going there.

1379
01:10:37,371 --> 01:10:40,339
Our view is, let's follow
the trail wherever it leads.

1380
01:10:40,374 --> 01:10:41,271
Let's get the data,

1381
01:10:41,306 --> 01:10:43,342
the best evidence possible.

1382
01:10:43,377 --> 01:10:47,035
There's probably more
than one phenomenon
at work here.

1383
01:10:47,070 --> 01:10:49,693
NARRATOR: They refused
to say the "A" word.

1384
01:10:50,418 --> 01:10:53,110
Alien. Why?

1385
01:10:53,145 --> 01:10:56,769
You know, assuming that
these things are
all of alien origin...

1386
01:10:58,875 --> 01:11:01,912
for a variety reasons,
in part because
people shut down

1387
01:11:01,947 --> 01:11:07,159
and it impedes our progress
and some of the allies

1388
01:11:07,193 --> 01:11:09,644
and people that we need
to bring to bear,

1389
01:11:09,679 --> 01:11:12,544
who are sort of
now getting on board,

1390
01:11:12,577 --> 01:11:16,996
wouldn't do so if we started
with the premise that
these are aliens.

1391
01:11:17,031 --> 01:11:19,689
I think the word alien
is a little...

1392
01:11:19,723 --> 01:11:22,312
People are afraid of
the word alien.
1393
01:11:22,347 --> 01:11:25,728
You know, E.T,
extraterrestrial, non-humans.

1394
01:11:25,764 --> 01:11:28,732
I've always concerned about

1395
01:11:28,767 --> 01:11:33,943
getting ahead of
our headlights, frankly,

1396
01:11:33,978 --> 01:11:36,326
and leaping to conclusions.

1397
01:11:36,361 --> 01:11:39,225
For me, it's more of
the thrill of the hunt.

1398
01:11:39,260 --> 01:11:42,332
It's trying to figure out
the unknowns

1399
01:11:42,367 --> 01:11:46,818
because once they are known,
they are no longer a mystery.

1400
01:11:46,853 --> 01:11:48,994
What it is,
no one's admitted yet.

1401
01:11:49,028 --> 01:11:51,272
And you've got
plenty of video evidence

1402
01:11:51,307 --> 01:11:56,380
of Lue and Chris
not admitting it
because they can't say it.

1403
01:11:56,415 --> 01:11:58,969
But they've said it
in as many ways
as you can.

1404
01:11:59,004 --> 01:12:02,214
Just anybody bright enough
to listen,

1405
01:12:02,248 --> 01:12:05,112
will, as you say,
understand the accidental truth.

1406
01:12:13,259 --> 01:12:19,507
NARRATOR: During the interview
in 2018, Lue Elizondo
gave us an accidental truth.

1407
01:12:19,541 --> 01:12:22,752
JAMES: So,
you've spoken about
some of the technologies

1408
01:12:22,786 --> 01:12:25,341
that are being studied
as a spin off the research

1409
01:12:25,375 --> 01:12:26,996
you did at AATIP.

1410
01:12:27,032 --> 01:12:32,139
Things like bending space-time,
and Einstein type possibilities
that may unfold.

1411
01:12:32,175 --> 01:12:35,005
Is there an interdimensional
element to any of this

1412
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,835
that you guys maybe explored?

1413
01:12:38,871 --> 01:12:40,666
Other dimensions
may absolutely exist.

1414
01:12:40,701 --> 01:12:43,013
You look at String Theory,
look at M Theory,

1415
01:12:43,048 --> 01:12:45,602
dimensions are all around us.

1416
01:12:45,637 --> 01:12:50,814
So I think you have to
cast a wide net
when you're looking at this.

1417
01:12:50,849 --> 01:12:53,264
And that's why I've said before,
whether they're
from outer space,

1418
01:12:53,299 --> 01:12:54,956
inner space
or the space in between,

1419
01:12:54,991 --> 01:12:58,235
we just don't know,
and we need to collect
more data.

1420
01:12:58,270 --> 01:13:00,928
Is it possible?
Absolutely, it's possible.

1421
01:13:00,962 --> 01:13:03,724
Is it possible that
they're from the Pleiades? Sure.

1422
01:13:03,758 --> 01:13:05,035
Is it possible that
they're from...

1423
01:13:05,070 --> 01:13:07,037
They've been here all along
and they're from here,

1424
01:13:07,072 --> 01:13:10,455
they're just resonating
at a different vibration?

1425
01:13:10,489 --> 01:13:12,284
Sure.

1426
01:13:12,318 --> 01:13:15,563
JAMES: It seems like
the only question
that is answered

1427
01:13:15,598 --> 01:13:17,323
in the ones you just posed,
1428
01:13:17,358 --> 01:13:21,293
is that whether or not,
there is an actual "They."

1429
01:13:21,844 --> 01:13:23,916
That's a great question.

1430
01:13:23,951 --> 01:13:25,434
I don't know
if I can answer that.

1431
01:13:27,955 --> 01:13:31,337
NARRATOR: A few seem willing
to officially pronounce
the phenomenon

1432
01:13:31,371 --> 01:13:34,271
as originating
from extraterrestrials.

1433
01:13:34,306 --> 01:13:36,377
There is a willingness
to concede

1434
01:13:36,412 --> 01:13:39,449
that there might be
extraterrestrial involvement.

1435
01:13:39,484 --> 01:13:41,486
You know, what's here
is probably just an A.I.

1436
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:46,041
I mean, why spend all your time
on one little planet

1437
01:13:46,076 --> 01:13:48,700
out in a dust speck
at the edge of the galaxy?

1438
01:13:48,734 --> 01:13:50,529
You send your robots.

1439
01:13:50,564 --> 01:13:54,153
The question is,
what's our definition of life?
1440
01:13:54,188 --> 01:13:57,778
I think life may exist,
may exist,

1441
01:13:57,812 --> 01:14:02,127
and I'll caveat that,
in all sorts of forms.

1442
01:14:02,161 --> 01:14:03,922
I don't think it's necessarily
going to be

1443
01:14:03,956 --> 01:14:08,960
something that we might
recognize or even initially
even classify as life.

1444
01:14:08,996 --> 01:14:11,273
Because we don't have
a full understanding of it.

1445
01:14:11,308 --> 01:14:13,241
NARRATOR: There is
a growing consensus

1446
01:14:13,276 --> 01:14:15,796
that the
extraterrestrial hypothesis

1447
01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:17,936
doesn't answer all
of the questions.

1448
01:14:17,969 --> 01:14:22,388
There are multiple phenomena
at work, that cannot be
explained completely

1449
01:14:22,423 --> 01:14:24,632
without looking at
other possibilities.

1450
01:14:24,666 --> 01:14:27,704
Maybe there's a whole range
of different phenomena
at play here.
1451
01:14:27,739 --> 01:14:33,779
In fact, I think, given
the differences in what's been
reported by people,

1452
01:14:33,814 --> 01:14:38,957
that's quite likely that
there are many different
parallel strands to this.

1453
01:14:38,991 --> 01:14:42,581
But whatever is involved,
and as I say, I don't know,

1454
01:14:42,616 --> 01:14:48,794
I think it does raise important
defense, national security
and air safety issues.

1455
01:14:48,829 --> 01:14:53,764
The E.T. hypothesis,
for instance,
is a logical starting point.

1456
01:14:53,799 --> 01:14:55,594
If not from here, from where?

1457
01:14:55,629 --> 01:14:59,564
Until you start
talking about, well,
what do you mean, where?

1458
01:14:59,598 --> 01:15:05,362
We think that an object
is solid and can only be
one place at the same time.

1459
01:15:05,397 --> 01:15:09,850
But in quantum mechanics,
electrons can be two places
at the same time.

1460
01:15:09,884 --> 01:15:11,507
In fact, they can be
many places,

1461
01:15:11,541 --> 01:15:14,579
and this is called
the multiverse idea.

1462
01:15:14,612 --> 01:15:19,031
The idea that we exist
with other universes
simultaneously.

1463
01:15:19,584 --> 01:15:20,654
Well, wait a minute.

1464
01:15:20,688 --> 01:15:24,139
We're talking about
multi-dimensional realities.

1465
01:15:24,174 --> 01:15:26,073
But doesn't really matter
how far you go

1466
01:15:26,107 --> 01:15:28,420
in a three-dimensional space
and distance,

1467
01:15:28,454 --> 01:15:32,112
that there are shortcuts,
and those shortcuts exist

1468
01:15:33,321 --> 01:15:35,254
as part of the natural universe.

1469
01:15:35,289 --> 01:15:37,532
So that is a real world example
where we know

1470
01:15:38,844 --> 01:15:40,674
other dimensions
may absolutely exist.

1471
01:15:40,708 --> 01:15:46,921
Whether it's extraterrestrial
or interdimensional,
to me, is irrelevant

1472
01:15:46,956 --> 01:15:49,579
because whatever it is,
clearly has

1473
01:15:49,614 --> 01:15:53,202
the ability to manipulate
dimensionality.

1474
01:15:53,237 --> 01:15:58,519
These things can
jump in and out,
appear, disappear.

1475
01:15:58,554 --> 01:16:02,281
And so, for all intents
and purposes, it's both.

1476
01:16:02,316 --> 01:16:07,701
NARRATOR: In August of 2022,
Dr. Hal Puthoff released
a paper in which he explored

1477
01:16:07,735 --> 01:16:10,462
other options
for what may be at work.

1478
01:16:10,496 --> 01:16:14,603
He presented
concepts such as
ultra-terrestrial beings.

1479
01:16:14,639 --> 01:16:18,850
The concept that
there could be another
intelligent race living with us

1480
01:16:18,884 --> 01:16:21,162
inside the Earth
or under water.

1481
01:16:21,197 --> 01:16:24,027
A civilization
with advanced technology,

1482
01:16:24,062 --> 01:16:26,892
that has been here,
long before us.

1483
01:16:26,927 --> 01:16:28,722
Time travelers.

1484
01:16:28,755 --> 01:16:32,691
While mainstream science
debates the feasibility
of time travel,

1485
01:16:32,726 --> 01:16:35,175
it still remains a possibility.

1486
01:16:35,210 --> 01:16:38,870
Some people say that the aliens
don't come from Mars,

1487
01:16:38,904 --> 01:16:40,906
they don't come
from a distant star.

1488
01:16:40,941 --> 01:16:43,391
They come from a different time.

1489
01:16:43,425 --> 01:16:45,808
Well, I'm open
to all sorts of ideas,

1490
01:16:45,842 --> 01:16:47,775
as long as they are testable.

1491
01:16:47,809 --> 01:16:53,332
Our notion of time and space
is flawed, seriously.

1492
01:16:53,367 --> 01:16:56,232
And you're entering
issues where

1493
01:16:56,266 --> 01:16:58,889
there is no time
and there is no space.

1494
01:16:58,924 --> 01:17:01,306
You've got man-made craft.

1495
01:17:01,340 --> 01:17:04,343
You've got possible
extraterrestrial.

1496
01:17:04,378 --> 01:17:06,035
You've got interdimensional.

1497
01:17:06,068 --> 01:17:07,553
You've got...

1498
01:17:07,588 --> 01:17:10,384
Hmm. A pre-existing
high tech civilization

1499
01:17:10,418 --> 01:17:12,351
that could have been
on this planet
for thousands of years.

1500
01:17:12,386 --> 01:17:14,008
And when you wrap
this all together,

1501
01:17:14,043 --> 01:17:17,425
you can see how confusing it is
because a lot of
these things merge.

1502
01:17:19,393 --> 01:17:22,189
NARRATOR: Some of the
phenomena seemed to point

1503
01:17:22,223 --> 01:17:25,606
to a direct interaction,
with consciousness.

1504
01:17:25,641 --> 01:17:30,922
Well, the consciousness
is interacting in
all aspects of it.

1505
01:17:30,956 --> 01:17:32,682
And to take it a step farther,

1506
01:17:32,717 --> 01:17:36,134
going to Max Planck,
suggests that maybe

1507
01:17:36,168 --> 01:17:40,897
the physical evolved
from consciousness,

1508
01:17:40,932 --> 01:17:42,796
as opposed to
the other way around.
1509
01:17:49,975 --> 01:17:52,598
NARRATOR: As part of developing
new understandings,

1510
01:17:52,633 --> 01:17:56,499
it's hard to ignore
the so-called experience
or phenomenon.

1511
01:17:56,532 --> 01:17:59,191
A significant percentage
of the population

1512
01:17:59,226 --> 01:18:02,574
report having encounters
with non-human beings.

1513
01:18:02,608 --> 01:18:06,577
These encounters range
from enlightening
to terrifying,

1514
01:18:06,612 --> 01:18:12,204
Many, many, many people
have had some very
strange experiences.

1515
01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:17,106
Either seeing UFOs,
and not just at night
while they were dreaming.

1516
01:18:17,139 --> 01:18:19,728
These are not nightmares.

1517
01:18:19,764 --> 01:18:24,423
These are often described
as more real
than everyday reality.

1518
01:18:24,458 --> 01:18:27,460
The people who describe it,
these people are solid.

1519
01:18:27,495 --> 01:18:29,463
They come from
all walks of life.
1520
01:18:29,496 --> 01:18:32,984
NARRATOR: Ralph Blumenthal
wrote a book about the late
Harvard psychologist John Mack,

1521
01:18:33,018 --> 01:18:34,882
calledThe Believer.

1522
01:18:34,916 --> 01:18:37,402
Mack was one of the first
members of academia

1523
01:18:37,436 --> 01:18:40,818
to acknowledge the validity of
the experience or phenomenon.

1524
01:18:40,853 --> 01:18:44,409
John Mack investigated
these stories of people
who said that this and this

1525
01:18:44,443 --> 01:18:48,275
happened to them,
and at least Mack,
as a psychiatrist,

1526
01:18:48,309 --> 01:18:52,279
was able to evaluate
their stories to the...

1527
01:18:52,313 --> 01:18:56,870
Couldn't prove that this
happened or didn't happen,
but at least could say that

1528
01:18:56,904 --> 01:19:00,943
these people were solid people
and were not mentally ill.

1529
01:19:02,565 --> 01:19:06,189
We interface with
whatever this is.

1530
01:19:06,224 --> 01:19:08,502
Contactees, abductees.

1531
01:19:08,536 --> 01:19:12,264
I think we can create
some of the phenomenon itself.

1532
01:19:12,299 --> 01:19:16,475
So I do believe that there are
certain individuals
on this planet

1533
01:19:16,510 --> 01:19:20,445
who are more in tune,
are more intuitive,

1534
01:19:20,478 --> 01:19:23,759
are more in touch
with the unseen world

1535
01:19:23,793 --> 01:19:25,312
than the seen world.

1536
01:19:25,346 --> 01:19:28,384
Some of us are able
to pierce the veil

1537
01:19:28,418 --> 01:19:31,282
and connect with whatever
is going on out there.

1538
01:19:33,630 --> 01:19:36,323
NARRATOR: Stunning new research
by Dr Gary Nolan,

1539
01:19:36,357 --> 01:19:38,981
has revealed a trait in
the human brain

1540
01:19:39,014 --> 01:19:42,018
that may make some people
more prone to abilities,

1541
01:19:42,053 --> 01:19:45,608
such as heightened intuition,
psychic abilities,

1542
01:19:45,642 --> 01:19:50,199
and possibly an ability
to communicate
in undeveloped manners,
1543
01:19:50,233 --> 01:19:51,510
such as telepathy.

1544
01:19:51,545 --> 01:19:55,652
We had MRIs of claimed
remote viewers,

1545
01:19:56,273 --> 01:19:58,690
high-end remote viewers,

1546
01:19:58,724 --> 01:20:03,452
and this area of their brain
lit up like a Christmas tree.

1547
01:20:03,487 --> 01:20:07,492
NARRATOR: The condition has
been observed in so-called
"Experiencers."

1548
01:20:07,526 --> 01:20:10,909
Nolan has detected
increased activity
and development

1549
01:20:10,943 --> 01:20:13,878
in a region of the brain
called the basal ganglia.

1550
01:20:13,912 --> 01:20:16,225
NOLAN: The thing that
got me really intrigued

1551
01:20:16,259 --> 01:20:20,987
was that we did have MRIs
from experiencers,

1552
01:20:21,023 --> 01:20:24,958
but these were
high functioning individuals
that we happened to notice

1553
01:20:24,992 --> 01:20:30,032
that an area of their brain,
had a density in it

1554
01:20:30,066 --> 01:20:33,068
that we first thought was
damaged because we were studying
damage at the moment.

1555
01:20:33,103 --> 01:20:37,108
But then we realized,
this is not damaged.
This is living tissue.

1556
01:20:37,142 --> 01:20:39,835
And that became sort of
a side discovery.

1557
01:20:39,869 --> 01:20:43,286
You're left then
with, frankly,
what was

1558
01:20:43,321 --> 01:20:46,048
an even less uniform
group of individuals

1559
01:20:46,082 --> 01:20:51,950
with such varied interactions.
Things that
we're talking to them,

1560
01:20:51,985 --> 01:20:55,609
things that they had
gotten close to and had
been damaged and harmed.

1561
01:20:55,643 --> 01:20:58,543
And there were a couple
of people in that group
who were harmed.

1562
01:20:58,577 --> 01:21:00,959
But of the remaining
individuals,

1563
01:21:00,994 --> 01:21:04,273
I would say that the majority
of them were not harmed.

1564
01:21:04,307 --> 01:21:09,623
This area of the brain,
that we came to the conclusion
at the time
1565
01:21:09,657 --> 01:21:11,452
was probably involved
in intuition,

1566
01:21:11,487 --> 01:21:13,799
when we actually
looked into it,

1567
01:21:13,834 --> 01:21:15,732
and then looked into
the literature,

1568
01:21:15,767 --> 01:21:17,355
believe it or not,
people were finding that

1569
01:21:17,389 --> 01:21:19,046
it had something to do
with intuition.

1570
01:21:20,013 --> 01:21:22,153
And that's the basal ganglia.

1571
01:21:22,187 --> 01:21:24,776
This area, the caudate putamen,

1572
01:21:24,809 --> 01:21:28,021
which is, you know,
by many neurophysiologist

1573
01:21:28,055 --> 01:21:29,505
called the brain
within the brain.

1574
01:21:29,539 --> 01:21:31,645
NARRATOR: What Dr. Nolan
has discovered

1575
01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:34,682
may represent a leap
in human evolution

1576
01:21:34,717 --> 01:21:38,065
or even a new variation
of Homo sapien.
1577
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:43,657
You have to ask the question
"What kind of information

1578
01:21:43,691 --> 01:21:49,041
"is being perceived
and how is it
being translated into,

1579
01:21:49,076 --> 01:21:52,493
"let's say, traditional
neuro-physiologic pathways?"

1580
01:21:53,356 --> 01:21:56,394
We don't understand...

1581
01:21:56,428 --> 01:21:59,293
space time the way
we'd like to pretend we do.

1582
01:21:59,327 --> 01:22:05,851
And so, who is to say
that there is not some kind
of information transfer

1583
01:22:05,886 --> 01:22:08,751
that we just don't
necessarily yet appreciate,

1584
01:22:08,785 --> 01:22:11,581
but evolution has found
a way to latch onto.

1585
01:22:18,588 --> 01:22:21,281
NARRATOR: The people that
we've met since 2017

1586
01:22:21,315 --> 01:22:23,110
seemed to have
some genuine interest

1587
01:22:23,145 --> 01:22:27,080
in helping to make humanity
more aware of these realities.

1588
01:22:27,114 --> 01:22:31,014
Chris Mellon continues to work
quietly behind the scenes

1589
01:22:31,049 --> 01:22:34,327
to bring about an effective
means of disclosure.

1590
01:22:34,362 --> 01:22:36,916
Very much changing
within the government,

1591
01:22:36,952 --> 01:22:40,058
on the Hill
and the executive branch,

1592
01:22:40,093 --> 01:22:42,716
as well as you can see
with the media lately.

1593
01:22:42,750 --> 01:22:44,925
It's becoming respectable
and legitimate,

1594
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,549
and that's so crucial
to engaging more minds
and more energy,

1595
01:22:48,584 --> 01:22:50,689
and more resources
to getting to
the bottom of this.

1596
01:22:50,724 --> 01:22:52,484
NARRATOR: Lue Elizondo
seems to have put

1597
01:22:52,519 --> 01:22:54,659
everything on the line
since going public.

1598
01:22:54,693 --> 01:22:58,076
So if there's an issue where
the government is doing
something we don't want to

1599
01:22:58,111 --> 01:23:00,734
then it's up to us
as a people to change that.
1600
01:23:00,768 --> 01:23:03,633
But it doesn't have to be
an adversarial relationship.

1601
01:23:03,668 --> 01:23:07,499
I think where we go wrong is
that people often times look
at the government, they say,

1602
01:23:07,534 --> 01:23:09,501
"Oh, the government's bad,
the government's bad."

1603
01:23:09,536 --> 01:23:13,264
NARRATOR: His role in AATIP
has been challenged by the
Defense Intelligence Agency.

1604
01:23:13,298 --> 01:23:16,059
Lue fought back by hiring
one of the most effective

1605
01:23:16,094 --> 01:23:19,822
and well known
civil rights attorneys
in the field, Danny Sheehan.

1606
01:23:19,856 --> 01:23:25,172
I was contacted by Lue Elizondo
and asked to represent him

1607
01:23:25,207 --> 01:23:27,071
because he was upset

1608
01:23:27,105 --> 01:23:29,245
about the fact that the Pentagon

1609
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,248
even after
the publication of this

1610
01:23:32,282 --> 01:23:35,424
on December 16th and 17th
of 2017,

1611
01:23:35,458 --> 01:23:40,567
there were officials inside
the Pentagon issuing
completely false statements,

1612
01:23:40,601 --> 01:23:43,052
still, saying,
"Yeah, there's no such thing

1613
01:23:43,087 --> 01:23:46,504
"as the Advanced Aerospace
Identification Program."

1614
01:23:46,538 --> 01:23:49,334
NARRATOR: Together,
they approached the
Inspector General

1615
01:23:49,369 --> 01:23:51,129
of the Defense
Intelligence Agency

1616
01:23:51,164 --> 01:23:55,375
to reverse the Pentagon's
failure to acknowledge
Elizondo's position.

1617
01:23:55,409 --> 01:24:00,414
When Elizondo started,
talking about this
phenomenon publicly,

1618
01:24:00,449 --> 01:24:04,591
you can see the Pentagon had
tremendous pushback against him.

1619
01:24:05,178 --> 01:24:06,179
They lied.

1620
01:24:06,213 --> 01:24:08,422
They said "No,
he didn't run such a program."

1621
01:24:08,457 --> 01:24:09,630
That was a lie.

1622
01:24:09,665 --> 01:24:11,701
They said AATIP
had nothing to do with UFOs.
1623
01:24:11,736 --> 01:24:13,945
-That was a lie.
-We were trying
at the same time,

1624
01:24:13,978 --> 01:24:17,017
trying to determine
what Lue can say

1625
01:24:17,052 --> 01:24:20,157
in light of his
security clearances,
you know, publicly.

1626
01:24:20,193 --> 01:24:24,887
Not long ago,
Elizondo supposedly
said to his attorney

1627
01:24:24,921 --> 01:24:27,027
that he had seen
a flying saucer in a hanger.

1628
01:24:27,062 --> 01:24:32,101
That gets out and
the stuff hits the fan.

1629
01:24:32,136 --> 01:24:34,862
And, you know,
Lue had to walk
that back too.

1630
01:24:34,897 --> 01:24:37,037
What did he do?
He said,
"Well, you know,

1631
01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:39,557
"I went to a hangar
that was designed

1632
01:24:39,591 --> 01:24:42,870
"to accommodate
exotic materials,
but I didn't see anything there.

1633
01:24:42,905 --> 01:24:46,874
"I never saw any intact craft."
He was like, very lawyerly

1634
01:24:46,909 --> 01:24:49,601
in how he said what he did
because he had to.

1635
01:24:49,636 --> 01:24:53,880
I guess I'm just
genetically pre-disposed
to not trusting government

1636
01:24:53,916 --> 01:24:56,884
and seeing it now, too,
it's just a joke.

1637
01:24:56,919 --> 01:24:57,851
It really is.

1638
01:24:59,749 --> 01:25:02,821
NARRATOR: MUFON,
The Mutual UFO Network

1639
01:25:02,856 --> 01:25:07,032
is the largest and oldest
UFO organization in the world.

1640
01:25:07,067 --> 01:25:10,691
After over 50 years,
MUFON is stronger than ever.

1641
01:25:11,796 --> 01:25:14,557
I'm Ron James.
It's March 11th 2022.

1642
01:25:14,592 --> 01:25:16,111
I'm here in front of
the White House.

1643
01:25:16,145 --> 01:25:19,459
It's been a historic week
for the UFO community
and for MUFON,

1644
01:25:19,493 --> 01:25:20,839
the Mutual UFO Network.

1645
01:25:20,874 --> 01:25:23,463
We have actually been taking
meetings all week long

1646
01:25:23,496 --> 01:25:27,674
with key members and staff
of the House and Senate
intelligence committees

1647
01:25:27,708 --> 01:25:29,572
regarding the UAP phenomenon.

1648
01:25:29,607 --> 01:25:32,127
We've been here
for three days now, four days,

1649
01:25:32,161 --> 01:25:35,992
and have met with about
10 different officials,

1650
01:25:36,027 --> 01:25:41,619
congressmen, representatives
staff and senators,

1651
01:25:41,653 --> 01:25:44,794
and we've really had
a tremendous welcome.

1652
01:25:44,829 --> 01:25:47,934
NARRATOR: Thousands of people
over 100 years or more,

1653
01:25:47,969 --> 01:25:51,835
have challenged
the official deception
around the UFO topic.

1654
01:25:51,870 --> 01:25:54,321
They have been ridiculed
and debunked.

1655
01:25:54,356 --> 01:25:57,013
Today, they are beginning
to be vindicated,

1656
01:25:57,048 --> 01:25:59,532
but still have not
accomplished their goal.
1657
01:25:59,568 --> 01:26:02,433
A total end to
the UFO cover-up.

1658
01:26:02,467 --> 01:26:05,850
There is no way to inform
the American people
writ large,

1659
01:26:05,884 --> 01:26:09,198
all 500 million of us,
and ensure that information

1660
01:26:09,233 --> 01:26:11,648
is not going to get into
the hands of
a foreign adversary.

1661
01:26:11,683 --> 01:26:14,169
Maybe it's that
there are some elements

1662
01:26:14,202 --> 01:26:17,275
of the technology
that has to be kept under wraps

1663
01:26:17,309 --> 01:26:21,624
or kept to a limited number
of people because

1664
01:26:21,659 --> 01:26:23,868
if you cross the wires,
bad things happen.

1665
01:26:23,902 --> 01:26:28,079
This is a version of disclosure.

1666
01:26:28,112 --> 01:26:29,907
But is it going to be
the real truth?

1667
01:26:29,943 --> 01:26:32,014
And, I mean, I don't care

1668
01:26:32,048 --> 01:26:34,016
about anything except
what the actual truth is.

1669
01:26:34,050 --> 01:26:35,776
So, we'll see
if they can get there.

1670
01:26:35,811 --> 01:26:38,538
They could say, for example,
down the road,

1671
01:26:38,572 --> 01:26:43,128
"Well, actually, yeah.
We have had a few reports
down the road,

1672
01:26:43,163 --> 01:26:45,683
"over the years,
but we kept it quiet because,

1673
01:26:45,717 --> 01:26:48,272
"honestly, we needed
to avoid public panic."

1674
01:26:48,306 --> 01:26:49,618
They'll say that.

1675
01:26:49,652 --> 01:26:54,347
At a societal level,
I believe that we are
completely ready

1676
01:26:54,380 --> 01:26:57,522
to incorporate this new reality,

1677
01:26:57,557 --> 01:27:02,077
and if the President
were to go on

1678
01:27:02,112 --> 01:27:05,565
the evening news today
and say, "My fellow Americans,

1679
01:27:05,599 --> 01:27:07,118
"people of the world,
we're not alone,"

1680
01:27:07,152 --> 01:27:11,364
I think the reaction
would be sorta two-fold.

1681
01:27:11,398 --> 01:27:14,159
Obviously, there would be
a huge interest in it,

1682
01:27:14,193 --> 01:27:17,577
but actually there wouldn't
be panic in the streets.

1683
01:27:17,611 --> 01:27:21,166
So to be part of that journey,

1684
01:27:21,201 --> 01:27:25,895
to uncover and to show links
to this advanced civilization,

1685
01:27:25,930 --> 01:27:29,830
that would be a great honor,
because as a scientist,

1686
01:27:29,865 --> 01:27:32,108
you go where the data takes you.

1687
01:27:32,143 --> 01:27:35,905
And sometimes the data
takes you to places that
are uncomfortable.

1688
01:27:35,940 --> 01:27:38,391
But, hey, that's the way
the cookie crumbles.

1689
01:27:38,425 --> 01:27:40,600
Yeah, I just... You know,
I'm going to get hit on it.

1690
01:27:40,634 --> 01:27:43,568
They told me. They said,
"Man, Burchett you need to
cool this stuff out

1691
01:27:43,603 --> 01:27:49,402
"because it's gonna
hurt us at the polls."
But we'll see.
1692
01:27:51,852 --> 01:27:54,959
NARRATOR: We've shown
that even today
there is a narrative at work

1693
01:27:54,993 --> 01:28:00,102
that has been created to
manipulate public perception
about the UFO topic.

1694
01:28:00,136 --> 01:28:02,725
We are not alone
in the universe.

1695
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,419
There are those
who have struggled
to keep this truth a secret.

1696
01:28:06,452 --> 01:28:10,077
But the proof of the deception
serves its own purpose

1697
01:28:10,112 --> 01:28:12,804
and tells us much more
than ever before.

1698
01:28:12,839 --> 01:28:15,219
I have good news
and I have bad news.

1699
01:28:15,255 --> 01:28:19,224
And the good news
is the government's
been telling you the truth.

1700
01:28:19,259 --> 01:28:22,883
The bad news is
the government's been
telling you the truth.

1701
01:28:22,918 --> 01:28:24,022
I mean, just look at Roswell.

1702
01:28:24,057 --> 01:28:25,886
There are no 509th
bomb group members left.
1703
01:28:25,921 --> 01:28:27,335
They're all dead.

1704
01:28:27,371 --> 01:28:30,546
So according to the government,
it's cover up complete.

1705
01:28:30,581 --> 01:28:32,928
All right, then what did I see
out there in that field?

1706
01:28:33,446 --> 01:28:34,826
Oh, that...

1707
01:28:37,001 --> 01:28:39,037
Why, that was a weather balloon.