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ConKbot Re: Debunking Bedini chargers and RPX

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« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2017, 01:33:38 am »

Posts: 1380 Quote from: Cyberdragon on July 14, 2017, 11:50:31 pm

MYSTERY SOLVED: They are overvolting your batteries! 15V is too high! It should be max 14V with 13.5 to 13.8V
nominal! Whether those devices are meant to desulfate or not, they are overcharging your batteries which is shortening
their life!

Yes and no . Yes, charging to over 14v for an extended period of time will cook a battery. No, it's
not a limit that should never be exceeded. Step 1 is to read the datasheet or data plate on the
battery, there is too many plate compositions, pure lead, antimony or calcium added, etc. to make a
general statement that covers all battery types, So a suggested float and cyclic charge voltage printed
on the battery is a good bet. But for a generalization with many weasel words, 13.6-14.0v is a typical
float voltage for continuous/standby charging. No overcharging at all, but if you only ever charge to
13.8, you're going to have sulfation build up as there is no overcharging (not sure if "overpotential"
would be a better word here?) To deal with the sulfation. A 14.0-14.5v (depending on the plate
material, read the datasheet/dataplate! ) as used on a cyclic charge will take care of normal very mild
sulfation formed during use (or while sitting not fully charged for a short period of time), and to fully
top off the battery. A 15v charge is more aggressive overcharging, will take care of more sulfation
than a 14.5v charge. The overcharging will make the cells gas, and it also equalizes a battery by
letting undercharged cells get a chance to take a full charge. This should only be done every few
months on cells that are refillable, or have a recombination catalyst. I.e. Some of the hawker cyclon
cylindrical cells that are sealed and can take significant pressure. But not done on AGM unless the
manufacturer reccomends it, and pretty much never on gel cells.

You have to use the right tool for the job. A 15v battery equalizing/desulfating charger isn't for daily

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use. A battery tender meant to live on a battery, and just float it at 13.8v isn't for charging a battery
subject to cyclic use and storage.

The problem is that lead acid is very easy to charge, very hard to charge well. Plus given the typical
failure mode is fairly safe if overcharging isn't severe, chargers are usually pretty far from the "very
well" area.

I've seen an automotive starter battery last 9 years (replaced the car, not the battery! ) because GM
(shockingly! ) made the alternator charge the battery to 14.5v after starting, and then float at 13.8v
afterwards, so it wasn't cooking the battery the entire time the engine was on.
Xantrex even sells alternator regulators that do the same thing to convert the alternator from a
battery cooker to a proper charger.

Know your tools and when to use them, and everything is happy
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Cyberdragon Re: Debunking Bedini chargers and RPX

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« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2017, 03:11:15 am »

He's been cooking these batteries at 15V CONTINUOUSLY for YEARS, that's why they were destroyed.
So my prediction was correct that those devices are just desulfators only or faulty auto-desulfators.
Yes, they should only pulse at 15V every once in a while, but either they don't intentionally and the
sellers just are dumb and lie about their proper use, or they are broken and stuck on for some reason
Posts: 2676 (likely due to terrible quality parts).
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So confirmed, these devices attempt to desulfate already working batteries and destroy them. I bet
they are nothing but a 15V power supply, not even a proper 555 desulfator circuit, but as we know

there are fake 555s out there so they could have just all shorted out.
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IanB Re: Debunking Bedini chargers and RPX

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« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2017, 03:31:08 am »

The question is, why would someone buy a device like this and attach it to their batteries?
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TruthExposé Re: Debunking Bedini chargers and RPX

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« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2017, 08:43:17 pm »
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Here is a video #4 for those of you who couldn't find it where I expose the inside of the so called
"best Bedini/Tesla rejuvenators' in the world sold to me by teslachargers.com and built by Bedini

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himself (the guru of so called 'free energy'. Scam of big proportions. Enjoy!

4 - Taking apart Bedini Universal Charger 1AU EnergenX SCAM. Batte…

Batte…

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TruthExposé Re: Debunking Bedini chargers and RPX

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« Reply #54 on: August 03, 2017, 04:56:15 pm »
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Hello again,

Here is a video where I take apart 10A12 charger (10 Amps 12 volts) made by famous John Bedini
himself of Teslachargers/ Energenx companies. Some of you were asking me of this, so here it is.
Enjoy the 'finest art' of Tesla chargers:

5 - Taking apart 10A12 Bedini charger EnergenX SCAM! Battery KILLE…

KILLE…

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shadowless Re: Debunking Bedini chargers and RPX

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« Reply #55 on: April 05, 2018, 02:21:00 pm »

Posts: 126 Wow seems like you bought a lot of stuff that does not work lol. Are you throwing them out? I would
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like to take them apart and take a look if you are dumping them. Save me a dumpster dive.
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