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47th and 48th Street Exit Survey Comments
47th and 48th Street Exit Survey Comments
47th and 48th Street Exit Survey Comments
I wish our concerns about rerouting waste management trucks off 48th
st wiykd have been addressed. Im no convinced byciclists will only go
southbound on 48th St which will cause confusion & continue to
21 9/18/2023 create a dangerous situation.
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Concerned this will create an even more dangerous situation on 46th.
Currently no traffic lights & obstructed stop signs at 46th and
23 9/18/2023 Springfield. Already very busy + chaotic.
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The intersectuibs need immediate help -- and there needs to be a
culture shift with drivers who constantly run the stop sign. This
engagement did feel perfunctory & at certain points condescending. It
made me feel less confidenc ein the second option because questions
were punted to the next person and to the next. Many of them went
unanswered and some of the speakers' tones were condescending. It
24 9/18/2023 med me lose confidence in the organization.
25 9/18/2023 The streets will be negatiely impacted!
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27 9/18/2023 We need safety of street also ""
Paschall Avenue at 48th is a forgotten block! This is unfair to our
28 9/18/2023 residents.
29 9/18/2023 Kids walk to Lea + biking
Please consider ways to truly segregate bikers from traffic - protected
bike lanes with bollards, etc. I want to utilize the streets fully but it
30 9/18/2023 feels so unsafe.
Do not make 47th one way north. We will get lots of southbound
traffic on 48th. Add a traffic light at the corner of 47th and
Warrington, The light should oprate exactly in parallel with the light
of 47th and Baltimore, i.e. it would be operationally the same signal.
31 9/18/2023 That would allow Warington traffic to turn left onto 47th safely.
The meeting format didn't work well in this space. Use another space
32 9/18/2023 in the future. Tremendously hard to hear, congestion in front of signs.
36 9/18/2023 Interested in more radical solutions. Bus only lanes? Bike only road?
37 9/18/2023 Thanks for engaging the community.
I'd echo the concerns a lot of folks chared tonight about neglecting the
38 9/18/2023 one-way blocks at 47th and Woodland. We need 47th repaved ASAP.
39 9/18/2023 Put more paint at 48th / Baltimore
Why is this taking so long? Why are you wasting time with an
undemocratic process? Just go ahead and fix the road so I don't get hit
40 9/18/2023 by a car. Also please do 49th + 50th next.
Appreciate your efforts! Meeting room was small. Doing a portion
41 9/18/2023 outside would have helped.
Thank you for your work! This is kind of thankless. I appreciate you
42 9/18/2023 guys!
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44 9/18/2023 The sooner the better! Please consider bus bulbs / islands.
45 9/18/2023 We need big changes! I want to walk / bike on 48/47 and feel safe!
46 9/18/2023 Noise + litter are also problems. Concerns re: speed bump issues.
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48 9/18/2023 Need speedbumps across all street - not multiple pads.
Represent and drive through to get home. If possible look at the
49 9/18/2023 intersection off 49th toward the bridge.
50 9/18/2023 Do good!
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Congestion on 47th north is already backed up past chester during
52 9/18/2023 school drop-off & pick-up.
53 9/18/2023 Thank you for listening to the community who asked for this!
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Instead of crosswalks in the middle of the street, they should be at the
57 9/18/2023 crosswalks! Less noise pollution.
58 9/18/2023 thw white bollards are ugly. Can we change what is installed?
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60 9/18/2023 Consideration for all equally.
61 9/18/2023 I would really love 47th to stay a 2-way from Paschall to Baltimore.
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I'm dissapointed in the rejection of the 2-way PBL option for 48th1
63 9/18/2023 Which is the safest and simplest option.
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I liked the format of the meeting! Okease invest in the safety of our
65 9/18/2023 community by choosing option 2!
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What will the impact be on 46th and 49th? Whel will they be
improved. The stop signs are disregarded and people constantly run
red lights -- How can you improve the intersections to improve this
hazard? Double parking is very common. Narrower streets (which are
good!) will make this issue more problematic. Can loading zones be
added to the mix? The bicycle lanes should all be two-way. People
will "salmon" the wrong direction. Elimate slip lane at 47th and
Baltimore. Add crosswalks at 48th and Windsor, 47th and Warrington,
etc. Will there be safe and convenient bike path from south (2-way)
70 9/18/2023 bike path on Grey's Ferry Bridge to 47th?
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Traffic north on 47th from Greys Ferry Bridge is too heavy. Need
73 9/18/2023 diverter at Kingsessing or Chester to 46th or 48th.
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Hope measures are put in place at lots of intersections for pedestrians.
86 9/27/2023 We are concerned about traffic flow on 48th, but it seems worth it.
87 9/27/2023 Center people, ban cars!
88 9/27/2023 Please! A stop sign + cross walk at 45th + Warrington.
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I live on windsor and am conerned about cars spedding. Can you add
107 9/27/2023 pedestrian crossings and stop signs at all intersections?
Please address the csx crossing that is at grad on 49th st - this should
108 9/27/2023 be safe for bikes and pedestrians to use to get to SRT + Bartram
109 9/27/2023 Car charging across sep bike lane??
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I have three children. Their safety, and human safety, need to be the
112 9/27/2023 priority.
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If 47th is converted to 1-way, that will displace southbound traffic to
46th st as well, and that is not being addressed here. Vehicles travel
very fast on 46th S. of Baltimore where the street is wide. Those
blocks are already unsafe for pedestrians (And vehicles). Displacing
more vehicles there will make it even less safe. Therefore, if 47th st is
made 1-way, 46th st should recieve the same traffic calming
113 9/27/2023 interventions -- speed tables, daylit intersections, etc
We need speed cameras. They will stop rackless drivers. They will
make the city money. For funding, issue "child safety bonds." Profits
will fund high yields and city improvements. Advantages: 1) Reckless
drivers have incentive to stop 2)Worst drivers will fave penalties 3)
Low maintenance / labor 4) They can be moved 5)Provide video
evidence for hit and runs 6) they pay for themselves 7) investment
incentives 8) citizenz make money 9) no racial bias 10) will actually
116 9/27/2023 work
More bike infrastructure = safer streets for all + less car traffic Also
117 9/27/2023 there needs to be more of a penalty for reckless drivers.
118 9/27/2023 47th needs to be repaved too!
Have you adequately assessed how this will affect traffic going north
119 9/27/2023 at 47th + Springfield - a difficult corner?
120 9/27/2023 Looking forward to it
Slowing traffic on 48th feel a priority. I bike and walk and feel much
less safe as a pedestrian crossing 48th. I've taken to hanging back on
the corner until no cars are visible because the speed and aggression
123 9/27/2023 feels very unsafe!
124 9/27/2023 More traffic calming on 48th.
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Only make changes you can maintain. Repave first, esp 47th and
Paschall. Block shoulders of alleys & small streets to maintain sight
lines. Need better stop sign enforcement. Make them light up. 48th
125 9/27/2023 and Baltimore is best shoulder design. Use that.
If you add bike lanes, keep them clear + clearly marked. If you push
traffic to 46th, be aware that alley visibility is poor between
126 9/27/2023 Larchwood and Pine.
I don’t feel safe on my bike right now. I am worried I will get hit
again. Make the planters + curb extensions at 48th & Baltimore
127 9/27/2023 permanent.
More durable infrastructure at 48th / Baltimore. Paint and planters are
128 9/27/2023 not enough.
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140 9/27/2023 Great job, thanks.
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1) I'm a 4-day a week bicycle commuter who lives on 48th st. I love
parking separated bike lanes. But I will travel northbound in the
southbound-only bike lanes on 48th. 2) I would lvoe pedestrian bump
outs at all intersection because they make me feel safer + slow down
cars even though I know they're expensive 3) I don't have any strong
feelingd about making 47th one-way even tho it will liekly increase
traffic on 48th, where I live 4) For a future project: can you forcr CSX
141 9/27/2023 to allow ped traffic to go from 49th st to SRT?
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Option 2 underestimate impact on Kingsessing ave 48th + 49th to
greys ferry bridge. Many children walk between rec center + clark
143 9/27/2023 park on kingsessing.
146 9/27/2023 Make sure stop signs are visible. Enforce no parking in bike lanes.
The city has not proven itself to be trustworthy & committed to the
ongoing maintenance of bike lanes -- paint the lanes and keep that up
would be a great start. Not interested in bollards. 2) So speed cushions
147 9/27/2023 affect plows and ability to clear snow?
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Love safe, separated bike lanes that are maintained and kept clean. 2)
Put in a real sidewalk along 47th st side of park / traffic island at 47th
and Baltimore 3) I understanf there would need ot be loading zones
for trucks / deliveries on 47th, but don't want to lose too many parking
spaces for residents. SOem daytime parked people who drive in from
suburbs, park + take the trolley downtown. If car parking is limited to
156 9/27/2023 night hours that will eliminate the problem somewhat.
157 9/27/2023 Increased traffic on 48th.
158 9/27/2023 Only had one accident. It was on 47th. Driver ran through Red.
I own the building on 4800 Baltimore. Olease don't put all kinds of
159 9/27/2023 ugly things on historic blocks like 800 block of south 48th.
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I'm concerned about the width of the 48th st bike lane. Is it intended to
be one-way, but in my expereince of philly cyclists I expect people
will travel both directions. IS the bike lane width wide enough for to
bikes to pass each other when tha happens? I love the big bump-outs
at 48th and Baltimore. But long before the current repaving, every
time, any time anyoend oes work there, the barriers have been moved
back. How do we prevent that in the future. My fanatasy for Florence
161 9/27/2023 between 48th and 49th has always been to dig up a lane + plant trees.
Pedestrian safety has to be the TOP priority in this, we are at the
162 9/27/2023 mercy of both motorists & bicyclists.
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I think even the second option doesn't go far enough for pedestrian
safety but does at least help bikers. I have almost been run over at the
4-way stop signs on 48th almost monthly despite being cautious. Is
there a way to enforce people stopping who dont? I worry that bikers
will be difficult for pedestrians to see but do think a protected lane is
till important. Will there be ways to protect all from car doors in the
parking lanes since this affects pedestrians and bikes? The 48th ans
Baltimore intersection is extremely dangerous as it currently is. Is
there anything that could discourage cars from trying to make U
turns? Please put enough speed bumps to protect us. Many don't know
169 9/27/2023 how to properly go through a 4-way stop.
1-way on 47th north is a horrible idea: will make speedway for out of
neighborhood drivers heading west. -- traffic from W will not stop for
stop signs - Keep 47th 2-way south of Baltimore - If 47 has to be one
way, make it south - 47th southbound is the major exit for our
neighborhood. Northbound will cause significant extra driving for
residents - please consider St Francis schol which has much SUV
transport that double parks at 7:30 and 2:30 -- Since most traffic
through the nieghborhood is headed east, traffic patterns should
encourage diversion to Woodland east through the abandoned
171 9/27/2023 pharmacy school
172 9/27/2023 I am excited to see improved bike infrastructure protected from cars.
173 9/27/2023 Option 2 would be best, but I am in favor of keeping traffic lights.
174 9/27/2023 I'd like to know how school drop-off & parking will be impacted.
175 9/27/2023 Include 49th street! Solidarity!
176 9/27/2023 Only option 2 would make a significant difference in terms of safety.
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181 9/27/2023 I hate the bumps, in favor of other traffic slowing.
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193 9/27/2023 Traffic calming. Bike lanes please.
194 9/27/2023 Protected bike lanes :)
Take it even further! These are dangerous roads for everyone. Make
the crosswalks shorter. Full stops for cars and actual bollards -
195 9/27/2023 concrete / metal not plastic
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What about the trees in the greenway project - especially 47th and
197 9/27/2023 Springfield to Woodland?
Yes, how will the next to curb bike lane be shoveled, raked etc? When
will flooding at 48th and Springfield and Warrington be addressed?
Why are the Garden Ct & Walnut Hill groups making decisions re:
48th St South of Baltimore which has very different issues to address?
It doesn't seem homeowners in this neighborhood were consulted w/re
soltuions. Also, we already have 4-way and all-way stops here. The
bikers speed through them w/out stopping more than cars. Seems that
198 9/27/2023 issues should be raised in the biking community 1st.
Option 2 for 47th St devotes too much space to parking - more space
than any other single use. Cut one lane of parking. Overall, option 2 is
199 9/27/2023 confusing.
43rd and Spruce is so dangerous. Please do something to slow traffic
200 9/27/2023 down on Spruce.
I walk and bike every day on these roads and would feel much safer
201 9/27/2023 with option #2.
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203 9/27/2023 Incorporate GSI if possible
204 9/27/2023 Biz owner
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This was not a community meeting or discussion. Community
concerns were not heard or given the chance to be heard. There are
many schools along this route that it would greatly impact drop off
and pick up procedures. If the streets are changed to change
directions/flow/bike lanes it puts children at risk of having to go
between cars and then over bike lanes. Who will be enforcing the
parking to stay in the pakr lanes? Who will enforce bikes riding only
north or only south? How will cross streets be changed for stop signs /
209 9/27/2023 cross walks
210 9/27/2023 Thank you for looking out for bike safety!
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212 9/27/2023 Maintain same
Your "" is not very clear for options to choose. Too many variables
w/o ''" make for the choice. I'm writing my specific choices. 1) Option
1: Signs to slow down the speed of speed cushions and turning. No
need for concersion signs if it will be one-way from 47th to Paschall
2) Option: 1)one-way street for 47th from Paschall to Market st 2)
Parking possibilities for residents on both sides of the street 3) bike
lane must follow one-way street to 47th st 3) town hall meeting of the
213 9/27/2023 all reaction are gathered ""
Option 2 will change the culture of a hectic / dangerous situation.
214 9/27/2023 Please do it!
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There should be some further conversation. 1) Changing traffic flow
on 47th is likely to Add additional traffic south bound on 48 2) I do
not believe this plan takes into consideration the delivery of packages
on 48th The narrowing of buses, deliveries, trash pickup I believe will
create serious challenges 3) If plan 2 is chosen could we not do plastic
bollards. They create visual clutter and within a brief period of time
look trashy and ugly. I have worked for 47 years to keep the block
clean and neat. I will not work around the bollards to rake, shovel, and
224 9/27/2023 clean.
1 traffic lane only on 47th, as narrow as legally permitted to slow
225 9/27/2023 traffic
237 9/27/2023 47th & Baltimore is a bad intersection. 49th will get more speeding.
238 9/27/2023 The safest option please, I got struck by a car on 48th.
239 9/27/2023 4 years ago I got hit by a car on 48th St
240 9/27/2023 Thanks for prioritizing traffic safety in this neighborhood.
Please do option 2! Don't be dissuaded, this will be a game-changer
241 9/27/2023 for north-south bike mobility in west!
Stop signs at Windsor / 48th would be very helpful for vehicles and
242 9/27/2023 pedestrians
243 9/27/2023 So many kids cross 48th to get to Lea School - as safe as possible.
Don't forget about pedestrians in addition to bikes! Thank you for
244 9/27/2023 your work!
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245 9/27/2023 I like to keep it as it is.
246 9/27/2023 Please pick option 2! Slower traffic, safer traffic for everyone.
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My children cross both streets to reach UC swim club - 48th an dPine
248 9/27/2023 is especially dangerous for them.
The intersection at 48th + Kingsessing needs extra provisions for
249 9/27/2023 pedestrian safety - curb bump outs or raised crosswalks.
Any option other than option 1. Right now is crazy! Skeptical about
city's commitment to maintain protected bike lanes. Consider: -
different plans for north and south of Baltimore Ave - Rethink access
to Grays Ferry Bridge in Option 2 - perhaps keep 2-wau for cars south
of Woodland. Presently bycicle traffic on 48th south of baltimore is
very light, so bicycle lanes as presently configured are more than
adequate. - Start over with a more balanced set of inputs from all
252 9/27/2023 affected parties. Semmes that bicycle folks have dominated to date.
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4. Neither 1. How do you fe2. Are you in fa3. Are you in favor of the changes presented in Option 2: Complete street
0 2 2.92307692308 3.5
1 1.66666666667 3.09302325581 3.66666666667
2 1.67857142857 2.37037037037 4.03571428571
Grand Total 1.72289156627 2.8313253012 3.76829268293
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resented in Option 2: Complete streets to address the traffic calming needs on the streets? (Average)
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4. Both 1. How do you feel about traffic safety on 47th and 48th Street today? (Average)
0 1.74545454545
1 1.67857142857
Grand Total 1.72289156627
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y? (Average)
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4. Work on 47th1. How do you feel about traffic safety on 47th and 48th Street today? (Average)
0 1.7358490566
1 1.7
Grand Total 1.72289156627
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y? (Average)
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4. Live on 47th 2. Are you in favor of the changes preentred in Option 1: Light touch to address the trafic calming needs
0 3
1 2.79411764706
Grand Total 2.8313253012
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ch to address the trafic calming needs on the strets? (Average)
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4. Both 2. Are you in favor of the changes preentred in Option 1: Light touch to address the trafic calming needs
0 3.05357142857
1 2.37037037037
Grand Total 2.8313253012
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ch to address the trafic calming needs on the strets? (Average)
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4. Live on 47th 1. How do you feel about traffic safety on 47th and 48th Street today? (Average)
0 2
1 1.66176470588
Grand Total 1.72289156627
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y? (Average)
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4. Work on 47th2. Are you in favor of the changes preentred in Option 1: Light touch to address the trafic calming needs
0 3.03703703704
1 2.44827586207
Grand Total 2.8313253012
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ch to address the trafic calming needs on the strets? (Average)
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4. Work on 47th3. Are you in favor of the changes presented in Option 2: Complete streets to address the traffic calming
0 3.67307692308
1 3.93333333333
Grand Total 3.76829268293
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streets to address the traffic calming needs on the streets? (Average)
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4. Both 3. Are you in favor of the changes presented in Option 2: Complete streets to address the traffic calming
0 3.62962962963
1 4.03571428571
Grand Total 3.76829268293
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streets to address the traffic calming needs on the streets? (Average)
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4. Live on 47th 3. Are you in favor of the changes presented in Option 2: Complete streets to address the traffic calming
0 3.35714285714
1 3.85294117647
Grand Total 3.76829268293
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streets to address the traffic calming needs on the streets? (Average)
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1. How do you fe2. Are you in fa3. Are you in favor of the changes presented in Option 2: Complete streets to address the
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ion 2: Complete streets to address the traffic calming needs on the streets? (Average)
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