29-01-2024-Fischer Revised Technical Submittal-Electrical Cable Tray and Trunking Supports System-DIC

Fischer Revised Technical Submittal Cable
Tray/Trubking Supports System
Project: IRIS-DIC
Consultant: Fahim Nanji and Desouza (PVT) Ltd.
Client: DIC Pakistan, Kasur.
Design By
Engr. Awais Ashraf
H.S Ahmed Ally

160-C, Ghaus-e-Azam Road, Faisal Town,
Lahore.
TEL: +92 423 5194053
COMMENTS COMPLIANCE - TECHNICAL SUBMITTAL Cable
Tray/Cable Trunking Supports System
Kasur 29/01/2024
Project: DIC
Consultant: F.N.D
Client: DIC Pakistan, Kasur
Sr. Consultant Comments Compliance Fischer Remarks
General Comments
Cable tray/trunking support supplier to work in close coordination with the cable
tray/trunking manufacturer. Moreover, cable tray/trunking manufacturer's approval
is required for the support system. Proposed Cable Tray/Trunking Supports Material is Electro Zinc Plated.
1 Supplier to ensure that hot dip galvanised after fabrication (70 – 80 micron zinc Technical Data Sheets are attached for more detail.
coating) for the support system (including all accessories) of cable tray/trunking.
Moreover, FND's tender document to be followed for material and finishes.
As per FND tender document, the support span should not be more than We have designed supports system with span 1.5m so the same designs may
2 Yes
1.2 meters, and there should be no sagging. follow for the span less than 1.2m.
3 All sizes and quantities shall be taken from approved shop drawings. Yes All quantities are taken from the drawings provided by the client.
Connectors shall only be used to extend the length of threaded rods beyond their
factory-set limits. Currently, somewhere 2m long threaded rods are indicated with Threaded Rod Connectors has been proposed only for the drop greater than
4 Yes
connectors. This should be avoided. threaded rod's manufacturing length.
The support system shall be ordered with manufacturer-recommended spray to

5 Yes
make amends for galvanization damaged during cutting.
The deflection of channels shall be within allowable limits and shall not be visible from the naked
6 Yes
eye.
7 Supplier is responsible for all calculations of support system. Yes
8 Support for 50 mm x 50 mm cable trunking is missing. Yes Design Calculation is attached.
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COMMENTS COMPLIANCE - TECHNICAL SUBMITTAL Cable
Tray/Cable Trunking Supports System
Kasur 29/01/2024
Project: DIC
Consultant: F.N.D
Client: DIC Pakistan, Kasur
Sr. Consultant Comments Compliance Fischer Remarks
Specific Comments
The PEB supplier to review and accord approval to support the cable trays/trunking
from Z-Purlins as shown on the supplier drawings. This is to be essentially obtained
1 from PEB supplier before placement of order for the cable tray/trunking supports to Client's/Contractor's Scope.
the supports supplier. The loading requirements of the support components shall be
duly checked with respect to the purlins of PEB structure.
We assume that scope of support system for cable ladder shall fall under cable
2 Client's/Contractor's Scope.
ladder manufacturer domain, as cable ladders are only designed for safe zones.
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Design Calculations Cable Trunking
For size 50x50
H.S Ahmed Ally

Lahore.
TEL: +92 423 5194053
Electrical Cable Trunking Support System-Hanged with RCC Ceiling
Cable Tray Hanging Support Project DIC, Packages Consultant FND
Client DIC Contractor By
Rev 1
Date 1/29/2024
Thickness of Insulation 0
Density of Insulation 0
Safety Factor 2
Threaded Rod Material Grade 4.8
Concrete C 25/30
Selection Chart For Cable Trunking Supports System

Design Data Proposed Material
Cable's Weight
Size of Cable Tray Cable Tray Weight Cable Tray Factored Total Factored U.D.L Fischer Anchor
Thickness Spacing Channel Span Cable Tray Weight Considered (60% Load Permissible Load Max Utilization Max Utilization Rec. Load Max Utilization
Including GI Cover Load Load on Channel Fischer Horizontal Bolt
Sr No Filled With Cables) Threaded Rod
Channel
Width Height
mm m kg/m m Kg KN Kg/m KN KN KN/m kN % % KN %
(mm) (mm)
1 50 50 1.2 1.5 1 0.20 2.12 0.021 1.5 0.04 0.09 1.75 TR M10 11.6 0.43% FLS 17/1.0 2.16% EAN M10 3.30 1.5%
General Notes:-
1) Self-weight of the Hanging Supports is incorporated in the Safety Factor.The user has the responsibility to check whether the present conditions on site and the anchors, setting tools etc. intended to use comply with the conditions given. The ultimate responsibility for selecting the product for the individual application is with the customer.
2) Spacing may increase/decrease as per max spacing recommended by cable tray manufacturer.
Originator
Street
ZIP Code, location
Tel. / Fax
Project DIC
Construction project Cable Trunking Hanging Supports System. INSTALL-FIX 1.5.0.72 1/29/2024
Comment Size 50x50 (Hanged with RCC Ceiling) Page 1 of 6
Inputs
Channel FLS 17/1.0

electro zinc plated | Height = 17 mm | Width = 31 mm
Support distance 1500 mm
System
Node
Node x [mm] y [mm] z [mm] Conditions
1 0 0 0
2 20 0 0 Vx
3 130 0 0 Vx
4 20 0 500 Ux Uy Uz Vx
5 130 0 500 Ux Uy Uz Vx
6 150 0 0
(Restraint of movement in the axes has to be considered)
The input values and the design results and the installation should be checked against local valid standards and approvals. Please respect
the disclaimer of warranty in the license Agreements of the Software.
Project DIC
Construction project Cable Trunking Hanging Supports System.
Comment Size 50x50 (Hanged with RCC Ceiling) 1/29/2024
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Materials
Material E [N/mm²] fy [N/mm²] fu [N/mm²]
S 250 GD 210000.00 250.00 330.00
Profiles
Profile A [mm²] Iy [mm^4] Iz [mm^4] Wy [mm³] Wz [mm³] Sy [mm³] Sz [mm³]
FLS 17/1.0 72 2500 9100 260 590 185 1
Steel parts
Steel part Node Material Profile Conditions
1 4→2 S 250 GD Threaded rod
3 1→2 S 250 GD FLS 17/1.0
4 2→3 S 250 GD FLS 17/1.0
5 3→6 S 250 GD FLS 17/1.0
Project DIC
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Loads
Uniform load
ID Distance [mm] Load [kN/m] Load type Width [mm]
1 80 1.75 Permanent 50
Result
Forces on the steel part

Steel part Distance [mm] Nd [kN] Vzd [kN] Myd [kNm]
3 20 0.00 0.00 0.00

4 0 0.00 0.04 0.00
55 0.00 0.00 0.00
69 0.00 -0.02 0.00
110 0.00 -0.05 0.00
5 0 0.00 0.00 0.00
Stress
Steel part 4
Decisive load combination 1.35 * g + 1.00 * G1
Normal force NEd 0.00 kN
ultimate normal force NRd 20.62 kN
normal force utilisation βN = |NEd | / NRd 0.00 %
Shear force VEd 0.00 kN
shear load capacity Vb,Rd 4.64 kN
shear force utilisation βV = |VEd | / Vb,Rd 0.10 %
Moment MEd 0.00 kNm
moment load capacity MRd 0.07 kNm
bending utilisation βM = |MEd | / MRd 2.16 %
Moment MEd 0.00 kNm
moment load capacity on compression side Mc,Rd,com 0.07 kNm
ultimate normal force Nt,Rd 20.62 kN
normal force and bending utilisation βMN = |MEd | / Mc,Rd,com - |NEd | / Nt,Rd 2.16 %
Reaction
Support Fx [kN] Fz [kN] My [kNm]
4 0 0.04 0
5 0 0.05 0
(The datas belong to the support reactions at the channel and may vary from the anchor loads.)
Project DIC
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Project DIC
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Steel part deformation

Steel part Distance [mm] ux [mm] uz [mm] u [mm] perm. β [%]
displacement
of node
(l=decisive
distance to
inflection
point) [mm]
3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.5 0.10
4 55.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 0.71
5 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.5 0.10
Percentage utilization of deformation

Steel part 4
Decisive node on steel part with l 110.00 mm
Deformation limit w 1/200
perm. displacement of node (l=decisive u' =l·w
distance to inflection point) 0.55 mm
actual displacement of node u 0.00 mm
Percentage utilization of deformation βD = u / u' 0.71 %
Proof successful!
Parts list
Group Article number Name Number Weight PU Number of PU
System 538753 FLS 17/1.0 (150 mm) 1 0.09 kg 1 1
fastener 079740 G8/1 2 0.31 kg 25 1
079725 U 8 x 28 2 0.01 kg 100 1
079734 MU M 8 4 0.00 kg 100 1
538663 HK 31 8,5 2 0.00 kg 1 2
Project DIC
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Technical Remarks
• The calculation of the channels is according the elastic-elastic method according to DIN EN 1993-1-3: 2006 + AC:2009. The calculation of the connectors and pipe
clamps is based on a combination of different calculation models based on DIN EN 1993-1-3:2006 + AC:2009 and internal tests.
• The determination of the stresses and load combinations is based on DIN EN 1990:2002 + A1:2005 + A1:2005/AC:2010.
• Stability analysis like buckling or lateral-torsional buckling, as well as distortion is not covered by Install-Fix. If required, the analysis must be conducted by the
responsible engineer and hedged by structural measures. If necessary, the fischer technical support can be contacted.
• In places where user defined loads are acting, local stresses and deformations in the components are not considered. As the user defined loads do not indicate in
what way the load is applied into the system components it cannot be calculated by Install-Fix. In this case this must be taken into account by the engineer in charge
• The deflection of the channels is based on the observation of a single beam (length node to node, or bearing to bearing). The maximum allowable deflection can b
selected by the engineer in the program settings.
• Restrains and stresses of system effects (temperature-induced expansion of pipelines, etc.) are not covered by the analysis.
• The welding joints at, e.g. cantilever brackets are taken into account through internally audited system tests and will not be calculated separately.
• The calculation is based on the assumption that all actions are static or semi static. Effects of dynamics and seismic actions are not covered.
• All variable loads are take into account as unified, other load types in the load combinations with ψ2 = 0.8.
• Fire actions and fire resistance are not covered by the design in Install-Fix.
• Threaded rods have to verified separately at the moment.
Electrical Cable Trunking Support System-Hanged with Z-Purlin
Cable Tray Hanging Support Project DIC, Packages Consultant FND
Client DIC Contractor By
Rev 1
Date 1/29/2024
Thickness of Insulation 0
Density of Insulation 0
Safety Factor 2
Threaded Rod Material Grade 4.8
Concrete C 25/30
Selection Chart For Cable Trunking Supports System

Design Data Proposed Material
Cable's Weight Threaded Rod
Size of Cable Tray Cable Tray Weight Cable Tray Factored Total Factored U.D.L
Thickness Spacing Channel Span Cable Tray Weight Considered (60% Load Connector For Drop Permissible Load Max Utilization Max Utilization Angle Fitting Rec. Load Max Utilization Hex. Bolt Rec. Shear Max Utilization
Including GI Cover Load Load on Channel Fischer Horizontal
Sr No Filled With Cables) Threaded Rod Greater than 2m
Channel
Width Height
mm m kg/m m Kg KN Kg/m KN KN KN/m kN % % KN KN %
(mm) (mm)
1 50 50 1.2 1.5 1 0.20 2.12 0.021 1.5 0.04 0.09 1.75 TR M10 VM Connector M10 11.6 0.43% FLS 17/1.0 2.53% FAF 2 5 1.0% SKSL 10x30 13.38 0.4%
General Notes:-
1) Self-weight of the Hanging Supports is incorporated in the Safety Factor.The user has the responsibility to check whether the present conditions on site and the anchors, setting tools etc. intended to use comply with the conditions given. The ultimate responsibility for selecting the product for the individual application is with the customer.
2) Spacing may increase/decrease as per max spacing recommended by cable tray manufacturer.
Originator
Street
ZIP Code, location
Tel. / Fax
Project DIC
Construction project Cable Trunking Hanging Supports System. INSTALL-FIX 1.5.0.72 1/29/2024
Comment Size 50x50 (Hanged with Z-Purlin) Page 1 of 6
Inputs
Channel FLS 17/1.0

electro zinc plated | Height = 17 mm | Width = 31 mm
Support distance 1500 mm
System
Node
Node x [mm] y [mm] z [mm] Conditions
1 0 0 0
2 20 0 0 Vx
3 130 0 0 Vx
4 20 0 3000 Ux Uy Uz Vx
5 130 0 3000 Ux Uy Uz Vx
6 150 0 0
(Restraint of movement in the axes has to be considered)
Project DIC
Comment Size 50x50 (Hanged with Z-Purlin) 1/29/2024
Page 2 of 6
Materials
Material E [N/mm²] fy [N/mm²] fu [N/mm²]
S 250 GD 210000.00 250.00 330.00
Profiles
Profile A [mm²] Iy [mm^4] Iz [mm^4] Wy [mm³] Wz [mm³] Sy [mm³] Sz [mm³]
FLS 17/1.0 72 2500 9100 260 590 185 1
Steel parts
Steel part Node Material Profile Conditions
3 1→2 S 250 GD FLS 17/1.0
4 2→3 S 250 GD FLS 17/1.0
5 3→6 S 250 GD FLS 17/1.0
Project DIC
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Loads
Uniform load
ID Distance [mm] Load [kN/m] Load type Width [mm]
1 80 1.75 Permanent 50
Result
Forces on the steel part

Steel part Distance [mm] Nd [kN] Vzd [kN] Myd [kNm]
3 20 0.00 0.00 0.00

4 0 0.00 0.04 0.00
55 0.00 0.00 0.00
69 0.00 -0.02 0.00
110 0.00 -0.05 0.00
5 0 0.00 0.00 0.00
Stress
Steel part 4
ultimate normal force NRd 20.62 kN
normal force utilisation βN = |NEd | / NRd 0.00 %
Shear force VEd 0.00 kN
shear load capacity Vb,Rd 4.64 kN
shear force utilisation βV = |VEd | / Vb,Rd 0.10 %
Moment MEd 0.00 kNm
moment load capacity MRd 0.07 kNm
bending utilisation βM = |MEd | / MRd 2.53 %
Moment MEd 0.00 kNm
moment load capacity on compression side Mc,Rd,com 0.07 kNm
ultimate normal force Nt,Rd 20.62 kN
normal force and bending utilisation βMN = |MEd | / Mc,Rd,com - |NEd | / Nt,Rd 2.53 %
Reaction
Support Fx [kN] Fz [kN] My [kNm]
4 0 0.04 0
5 0 0.05 0
(The datas belong to the support reactions at the channel and may vary from the anchor loads.)
Project DIC
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Project DIC
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Steel part deformation

Steel part Distance [mm] ux [mm] uz [mm] u [mm] perm. β [%]
displacement
of node
(l=decisive
distance to
inflection
point) [mm]
3 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.5 0.47
4 55.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 1.74
5 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.5 0.48
Percentage utilization of deformation

Steel part 4
Decisive node on steel part with l 110.00 mm
Deformation limit w 1/200
perm. displacement of node (l=decisive u' =l·w
distance to inflection point) 0.55 mm
actual displacement of node u 0.01 mm
Percentage utilization of deformation βD = u / u' 1.74 %
Proof successful!
Parts list
Group Article number Name Number Weight PU Number of PU
System 538753 FLS 17/1.0 (150 mm) 1 0.09 kg 1 1
fastener 079740 G8/1 2 0.31 kg 25 1
079725 U 8 x 28 2 0.01 kg 100 1
079734 MU M 8 4 0.00 kg 100 1
538663 HK 31 8,5 2 0.00 kg 1 2
Project DIC
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Technical Remarks
• The calculation of the channels is according the elastic-elastic method according to DIN EN 1993-1-3: 2006 + AC:2009. The calculation of the connectors and pipe
clamps is based on a combination of different calculation models based on DIN EN 1993-1-3:2006 + AC:2009 and internal tests.
• The determination of the stresses and load combinations is based on DIN EN 1990:2002 + A1:2005 + A1:2005/AC:2010.
• Stability analysis like buckling or lateral-torsional buckling, as well as distortion is not covered by Install-Fix. If required, the analysis must be conducted by the
responsible engineer and hedged by structural measures. If necessary, the fischer technical support can be contacted.
• In places where user defined loads are acting, local stresses and deformations in the components are not considered. As the user defined loads do not indicate in
what way the load is applied into the system components it cannot be calculated by Install-Fix. In this case this must be taken into account by the engineer in charge
• The deflection of the channels is based on the observation of a single beam (length node to node, or bearing to bearing). The maximum allowable deflection can b
selected by the engineer in the program settings.
• Restrains and stresses of system effects (temperature-induced expansion of pipelines, etc.) are not covered by the analysis.
• The welding joints at, e.g. cantilever brackets are taken into account through internally audited system tests and will not be calculated separately.
• The calculation is based on the assumption that all actions are static or semi static. Effects of dynamics and seismic actions are not covered.
• All variable loads are take into account as unified, other load types in the load combinations with ψ2 = 0.8.
• Fire actions and fire resistance are not covered by the design in Install-Fix.
• Threaded rods have to verified separately at the moment.
Technical Data Sheets
H.S Ahmed Ally

Lahore.
TEL: +92 423 5194053

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Tray/Trubking Supports System

H.S Ahmed Ally

The support system shall be ordered with manufacturer-recommended spray to

H.S Ahmed Ally

Cable Tray Hanging Support Project DIC, Packages Consultant FND

Client DIC Contractor By

Selection Chart For Cable Trunking Supports System

Channel FLS 17/1.0

Support distance 1500 mm

S 250 GD 210000.00 250.00 330.00

FLS 17/1.0 72 2500 9100 260 590 185 1

Forces on the steel part

3 20 0.00 0.00 0.00

Steel part deformation

Percentage utilization of deformation

• Threaded rods have to verified separately at the moment.

Cable Tray Hanging Support Project DIC, Packages Consultant FND

Client DIC Contractor By

Selection Chart For Cable Trunking Supports System

Channel FLS 17/1.0

Support distance 1500 mm

S 250 GD 210000.00 250.00 330.00

FLS 17/1.0 72 2500 9100 260 590 185 1

Forces on the steel part

3 20 0.00 0.00 0.00

Steel part deformation

Percentage utilization of deformation

• Threaded rods have to verified separately at the moment.

H.S Ahmed Ally

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