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Holt,
It’s been a little bit since our last peer review meeting. In any case, there is work that still needs
to be done before this component of the Capstone project is sufficiently complete. Since we’ve
last done peer editing, I’ve written a bit about the rational/humanist connection between Greek
Southern gothic narratives as flawed individuals grappling with moral ambiguity and existential
dilemmas. These archetypal reinterpretations are then used to represent aspects of human nature
Subpoints?:
stories, offering frameworks to explore themes like fate, hubris, and the consequences of
human actions. These narratives provide depth and complexity to Southern gothic
Journeys?)
- Settings: The gothic/grotesque/decrepit and how it influences the story and changes the
characters
- Symbols: Symbols from Greek mythology: such as the labyrinth, the phoenix, and the
At its center, Greek mythology focuses, not on the supernatural, but on the human, and on the
flawed. The Greeks lived in a magical world; gods, nymphs and spirits lived amongst mortals,
and were responsible for the “odd” natural phenomena that could not be explained. At the same
time, however, this was a world that “made sense”: Greek rationalism in this period was the basis
of much Greek philosophical thought and also subsequently leaked into Greek religious thought.
In this philosophy, it was believed that the universe operated on a set of inherent, logical systems
and that humans could understand those systems through our own rational thinking and intellect.
This is seen in the organising system and hierarchy of the gods; in his journal article Ancient
Greek Religion, Hugh Lloyd-Jones notes that “the gods are distinguished from one another by
their attributes and functions, but they came to form a coherent system in which each deity has
his or her special place and relation to the others.” With this rationalism also came important
distinctions between the gods by their attributes and functions. As a result, the gods and
goddesses acted within their own parameters and according to their characters, as noted again by
Lloyd-Jones: “[The] gods [of Greek mythos] were by no means all good; their distinguishing
quality was not goodness, but power. Legend depicted them as being actuated by human
passions, so that their critics have found them easy to ridicule. The Christian Fathers treated
them with contempt, but indeed the same thing had been done by Greek philosophers long before
their time.” This defines the core of Greek religion; an emphasis on human-ness above
everything else.
- Tangent: the Greeks defined the rational as human, because everything was defined and
systems, the gods were rational while also having human flaws; Greeks believed flaw
was inevitable? What does this mean? What does it mean for the Southern Gothic?
- Connect to the Southern Gothic: characteristics: a focus on the human, the flawed,
the supernatural is also almost always influenced (or is) by the flawed human → used
as a wider critique of society and culture (how does this give meaning to the Southern
- Make a greater point to assert that the similarities don’t exist in a vacuum;
ASSERT that Greek mythology has influenced a great sphere of literature, has
had a lasting, enduring effect–if not created it, then at least popularized it?
Similarly, in the Southern Gothic, the continuing emphasis remains on the human, and, more
distinctly, the flaws and distortion of the human. The Southern Gothic is fueled by the need to
explain and/or understand foundational trauma, the violation or loss of that which is essential to
identity and survival but often irretrievable. Southern Gothic literature is characterized by
obsessive preoccupations—with blood, family, and inheritance; racial, gender, and/or class
identities; the Christian religion (typically, in its most “fundamentalist” forms); and home—and
Define: Southern Gothic is a mode of expression in literature, art, film/television, and other
mediums that employs the grotesque, the forgotten, the failed, and the macabre (sometimes
through supernatural devices) to unearth and displace the values of the American South (Savoy,
1998; Yaeger, 2005). Southern Gothic appropriates stylistic devices of the much older European
Gothic tradition, a tradition that includes “a pushing toward extremes and excess... of cruelty,
rapacity and fear, passion and sexual degradation” that offers through closure in its endings of a
p. 5). Whether lurking in bleak castles, moonlit graveyards, or atop a craggy cliff overlooking a
crashing sea, Gothic characters “are generally up to no good, disbelieving in the significance of
virginity and proclaiming their own superiority and inherent freedom as rational beings above
the shibboleths of convention and religious faith” (p. 5). We imagine yoked nobility or
disavowed aristocracy in the fading, ragged images of Heathcliff, Count Dracula, Miss
Havisham, or Mrs. Danvers. In Southern Gothic texts, an American twist is added: The morality
and propriety that win out as traditional hallmarks of the Gothic never fully materialize. Or if
they do, it comes with an ironic price, an unfortunate turn of fate that befalls “the good country
people,” to invoke the title of one of Flannery O'Connors Southern Gothic stories. In the
Southern Gothic the world is in a ruinous state of violent decay, much like the world Southerners
U.S. Civil War and, again, during the Great Depression. Innocence, redemption, and salvation–
these are hallmarks of progressing toward a reparative world we can inhabit with grace and
goodwill. But what if this world is not for us? How do the characters inhabiting Southern Gothic
texts - queer kids, bullied outsiders, battered wives, figures ostracized and oppressed by the
normalizing forces of a local history and culture - survive in a world devoid of salvation?
Until recently, Greek myths have been regarded with great admiration as the example, par
excellence, of what myths should be. It is true, however, that critics have not always agreed as to
the special qualities in which Greek myths excelled. In the first half of the twentieth century the
rationalism of Greek myths was particularly emphasized. Martin Nilsson expressed this view of
Greek Religion (1925). Speaking of the Greeks he says: ‘Their marvelous qualities of mind, their
rationalism, and clarity of thinking could brook no ambiguity or confusion. Hence was born
among them that independent searching after truth which is Science, the greatest offspring of the
spirit of Greece. We have seen that the same quality in a lower form, for which I should perhaps
use the term rationalism, gave to the Greek myths character, in contradistinction to the primitive
tale and folk-tale out of which they sprang. An outgrowth of the same kind is the humanizing of
the myths, the anthropomorphism characteristic of Greek mythology. It is due not only to the
plastic imagination of the Greeks, with its power of intuition, but also to their antipathy to the
primitive and fantastic ideas and characteristics of the folk-tale, which led them to clear away all
that too sharply contradicted the experiences of human life. The Greek myth has thus become
something other than the ordinary folk-tale, and rightly bears a separate name.
This attitude towards Greek myth is shared by H. J. Rose: “The Greeks at their best were sane,
high-spirited, clear-headed, beauty-loving optimists and not in the least other-worldly. Hence
their legends are almost without exception free from the cloudiness, the wild grotesques, and the
horrible features which beset the popular traditions of less gifted and happy peoples. Even their
monsters are not very ugly or uncouth, nor their ghosts and demons paralysingly dreadful. Their
heroes... meet with extraordinary adventures but there is a certain tone of reasonableness running
through their most improbable exploits. As for the gods and other supernatural characters, they
are glorified men and women, who remain extremely human, and on the whole neither irrational
nor grossly unfair in their dealings. Such tales as contain and repulsive elements tend to drop into
the background or to be modified.’ Thus both these writers stress the human-ness, the
reasonableness and the realism of Greek myths which lead to the elimination of fantastic,
S. Kirk’s Views.” Acta Classica, vol. 20, 1977, pp. 49–58. JSTOR,
BAILEY, PEGGY DUNN. “Female Gothic Fiction, Grotesque Realities, and ‘Bastard Out of
Carolina’: Dorothy Allison Revises the Southern Gothic.” The Mississippi Quarterly, vol. 63, no.
Helmsing, Mark. “Grotesque Stories, Desolate Voices: Encountering Histories and Geographies
of Violence in Southern Gothic’s Haunted Mansions.” Counterpoints, vol. 434, 2014, pp. 316–
Spiegel, Alan. “A Theory of the Grotesque in Southern Fiction.” The Georgia Review, vol. 26,
- Summary:
fiction. The author argues that the grotesque refers to a particular type of character
an outcast or scapegoat.
- The reasons for the prevalence of the grotesque are tied to 20th century changes in
order) as well as specific social and economic shifts in the American South.
- The grotesque is distinguished from the Gothic novel tradition, which takes place
exists within the daylight reality of society itself as a thorn in its side.
- While the Gothic novel has its modern counterpart in contemporary Northern
fiction with its hyperbolic, symbolic modes, Southern fiction maintains a more
literary visions and techniques of Southern fiction from its Northern counterparts
Presley, Delma Eugene. “The Moral Function of Distortion in Southern Grotesque.” South
Atlantic Bulletin, vol. 37, no. 2, 1972, pp. 37–46. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.2307/3197720.
- Summary:
- The article discusses the role and function of distortion in Southern Grotesque
literature. The author argues against critics who attribute the grotesque style
article contends that distortion in Southern Grotesque fiction serves a moral and
theological purpose.
- The distorted, “freakish” characters are used to depict what human beings are like
use distortion not just for shock value, but to make a point about human
- The article analyzes works by McCullers and Williams to show how, despite
God. The grotesque mode continually reminds us of what human nature once was
and what it could become again through love and reunion with the divine.
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