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When banks cash your same cheque twice, you

may be on the hook to pay


Old banking ways are 'colliding with our smartphones' as popularity of banking
apps increases

Rosa Marchitelli · CBC News · Posted: Apr 01, 2018 8:00 PM ET | Last Updated: April 1

Business owners Stefan Marten and Pearl Scott-Marten say they had to fight to get
money back from their credit union after several of the couple's employees cashed their
paycheques twice using increasingly popular banking apps that allow cheques to be
deposited with a photo.

In the Martens' case, the double deposits — known in the industry as double
presentment — happened 17 times. They were tipped off by an employee who
accidentally deposited the same cheque twice. When they reviewed their bank records,
they found the other double deposits, leaving them with thousands of dollars in extra
payments.

"It's been frustrating and nerve-racking," said Scott-Marten, who with her husband owns
Marten Brewing Co. in Vernon, B.C.

"When we were building the pub and the restaurant and the brewery, we were wearing
a lot of hats and not having a full-time bookkeeper. We had to keep an eye on our
accounts at the same time as doing everything else. The one thing I didn't expect that
could happen was having cheques that would be cashed twice."

Until recently, all cheques being deposited (whether through a banking machine or in
person with a teller) had to be handed over to the financial institution. That changed a
few years ago with the introduction of mobile banking apps that allow customers to
deposit cheques by taking a photo with their smartphones. That image is then
transmitted electronically to their financial institution. It's called remote deposit capture.
"As far as I knew, cheques have always been… you bring them into the bank, they get
stamped, the teller takes the cheque, and that cheque is no longer floating around.

"Right now, at this stage in technology, we have cheques that are being cashed by the
phone, they're not being received by the bank, they're not being destroyed or given
back to the person who wrote the cheque," said Scott-Marten.

Half exchanged as images


The use of these apps is on the rise, so are the risks to those who write cheques,
according to banking security expert Chester Wisniewski.

According to Payments Canada, the government agency that's responsible for setting
the rules around financial transactions, 800 million cheques were written last year, and
half of those were exchanged as images (this includes photo deposits and cheque
exchanges between banks). The agency says that number is growing quickly.

Well, we're kind of using 19th-century technology colliding with our smartphones , and
it's just complicated.- Security expert Chester Wisniewski

"Our worst one was a stale-dated cheque … over eight months old that was cleared a
second time. So there's a cheque that was deposited one month, and eight months later
deposited again," Marten said.

He said that when he brought the problem to the attention of Valley First, his credit
union, it initially told him it was his fault because he failed to notify the financial
institution within the 60 days customers have to flag problems with their accounts. He
and his wife have since been reimbursed.

The credit union wouldn't comment on why it failed to flag the double deposits in the
Marten case, citing customer confidentiality.

But in an email to Go Public, spokesperson David Kropp said the credit union does
"have measures in place to ensure the remote cheque deposit service is as secure as
possible and they can identify and stop duplicate transactions."
He added: "These mechanisms exist at the institution where a cheque is deposited and
where the funds are drawn," and that the credit union works with its members to
"identify the source of unexpected transactions and to verify their legitimacy."

Kropp encouraged customers to keep a close eye on their bank accounts.

Old banking, new technology


The apps themselves aren't the problem, according to banking security expert
Wisniewski, a research scientist at the cyber security company Sophos. Instead, the
issue is old banking methods that aren't working well with new technologies.

"Well, we're kind of using 19th-century technology colliding with our smartphones, and
it's just complicated," he said.

He said double presentment is most difficult to catch when the same cheque is
deposited once using the app and again using the physical cheque through an ATM or
with a teller.

"By doing one electronic and one paper, that can throw their systems off and make it
much more difficult to detect, or doing it at multiple financial institutions can also break
those detection algorithms. So that's usually what we're seeing when it's successful,"
said Wisniewski.

In his experience, most double deposits are caught by the person who wrote the cheque
— adding most cases are accidental.

Security specialist Chester Wisniewski says don't rely on banks' systems to detect 'double
presentments,' because 'they're not being terribly aggressive about it.' (Harold Dupuis/CBC)
"In the end, banks are just like insurance companies: it's all about managing risk, and if
the risk increases for them or it's costing them a lot of money, they'll be more
aggressive about preventing it. But at the moment... if you don't notice it, often you end
up just paying."
His advice is don't rely on the banks' systems to detect it, because "they're not being
terribly aggressive about it." And stop using paper cheques. Instead, use email for direct
transfers even for small amounts.

Go Public asked Canada's five big banks what measures are in place to detect double
presentment. TD, Scotiabank, and CIBC say they have systems that flag double
deposits. CIBC for example, says it has built-in technology that won't allow the same
cheque to be uploaded twice using its app.

RBC declined to comment. The Bank of Montreal didn't respond to our inquiries.

Shared responsibility
Payments Canada changed the rules around cheques in 2013 to allow digital images to
be used in deposits. The change allowed financial institutions to offer remote-deposit
capture apps.

The organization tells CBC News there are no regulations on how banks detect and
deal with double presentment, just industry guidelines. It says the level of duplicate
detection financial institutions implement is up to individual banks.

Janet Lalonde, who is one of of the directors on the modernization team at Payments
Canada in charge of updating Canada's payments system, says catching double
presentment is a shared responsibility.

"[The financial institution] that's collecting that cheque on deposit has some
responsibility to make sure their customers are not making mistakes or, you know,
behaving badly …. Also the payor's bank has a responsibility as well to safeguard the
account of its customers."

Lalonde says that under Payments Canada clearing rules, the cheque writer's bank has
90 days to identify and return a problem cheque and can return it to reverse the deposit.
Individual banks give customers between 30-60 days to flag problems with their
accounts.

She advises bank customers to check their accounts often, to make sure they don't end
up paying double for cheques they have written.

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