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IDEA OF LAW consider these as invalid, thus, legally entitling them to

by Dennis Lloyd refuse to adhere to these laws.


 MOST VITAL ISSUE
PREFACE o meaning of freedom of the citizen
o measures to preserve this freedom
 Law  Law & Liberty, where law:
o institution central to social nature of man o is an instrument for tyranny
o w/o it man would be a different creature o confers security upon the citizen in his person &
o has a major role in human affairs property
o one of the great civilizing forces o is a means of giving effect to those basic freedoms
o growth of civilization due to the development of legal  expression
rules  association
o found with moral codes  employment
o relationship of law to morality  enjoyment of benefits emanating from Rule of
o related to controversial issues in society & implies a Law
tension between law and morality  relief from basic insecurities due to want &
 homosexuality misfortune
 capital punishment  Welfare States pose legal problems to these liberties.
 sanctity of human life  Law & Sovereign Power
 euthanasia o important consequences to national & international
 abortion legal systems
 suicide o If states are sovereign, how come they can be subjected
 divorce under international law?
 Plato & Marx  treaties
o law is evil & mankind wants to rid itself from it  Common Market and UK
 Moral Law  Social Sciences
o has impact to the thoughts of man about the Actual Law o relation to human thought and activity
that prevails in society o have impact to legal thinking and practice
o resulted to the belief that there exists a higher law by o link of legal thinking w/ anthropology, psychology,
which mere man-made law can be judged sociology and criminology
o usually contradicts, nullifies the actual rules of society o its claims depend on its ability to aid legal institutions
o citizen becomes relieved of his noncompliance to the and render assistance in solving actual legal problems
actual law  Lawyers
 lawful basis to wage revolt against legitimate o practical man, especially in common-law countries
authority of the state o task is to solve practical problems
o e.g. those who argue that Moral Law guarantees basic o better equipped by his legal experience
human rights, hence, segregation laws, which, contrary
to morality, discriminates class of people in society may
 Judiciary
o its role has immense social significance in a modern
legal system
o so, this book attempts to discuss:
 nature of judicial process
 its vital contribution in the effective functioning
of the law
 structure of legal reasoning
o judges’ and courts’ essential role in developing the law
and adapting it to the needs of their society
o For readers to see what involves in the process of
applying and interpreting legal rules and principles in a
modern legal system, this book provides:
 the general way in w/c these result & processes
are achieved
 detailed illustrations of these processes
 Conclusion
o this book discusses more urgent legal problems
o it is the task of those concerned with the exposition,
application and practice of the law, to continually
improve the image of law, so its relevance to social
realities will remain.
ARIS BATO
- what would life be like w/o law? - why ask?
- if we can answer this question, we can answer
“W/N law is necessary”
- if life would be the same w/o law, then law must - is this the only reason for considering what life
not be necessary would be like w/o law?
OTHER REASONS: - unlike traditional political theorists, you are
- learn about human beings, proposing to approach the question “is law
- that some laws are less necessary necessary” by considering “what life would be like
- that diff. reasons can justify diff. laws w/o particular laws”.
- diff. functions of laws
unrealistic and exceedingly difficult to imagine life - not all difficulties will be avoided:
w/o any law at all - how to know what life would be like w/o law?
- we can’t experiment, only speculate
speculation should be reasoned, based on our what to speculate about?:
knowledge - USSR, US
- what point in time
THINGS THAT WILL VARY:
- answers to questions
- country where particular laws are involved
- time when the laws were enforced
2ND ADVANTAGE over traditional political be careful of using US as an example, because:
theorists: - it is a modern, highly industrialized society
- speculation about life w/o law on a particular - questions about life w/o law may be irrelevant
country as of a given time - will tell us only about life w/o law in US in 1960s
- but things may have changed already since then
- our speculation will still have value. 2 FURTHER QUESTIONS
- discuss seemingly “representative laws” found in - are we discussing constitutional, statute or case
whole US and other developed legal systems laws?
2 LAWS:
1. Theft
- larceny
2. Violence
- assault
- w/o laws, man would abuse his fellowmen 
chaos, destruction of property
- San Francisco earthquake, Boston police strike
- day-to-day administration of criminal law = man
is prone to violence, theft, destruction
- look beyond the potential wrongdoer to victim - laws of private property?
- Thomas Hobbes: all men are vulnerable - more evidence prove man doesn’t need this
- so, bec. of his nature, man needs laws protecting
him from theft and violence and his property from
destruction
- not a full-scale system of private ownership is - can “human nature” argument support property
necessary ownership?
- minimum laws of private ownership - you only stated laws protecting things from
destruction, BUT:
1. are these property laws?
2. human nature argument must be based on the
nature of all humans, not only some
- laws protecting property - prove necessity of private ownership first
ANSWER TO OBJ. TO HUMAN NATUER ARG.: - human nature argument is based on the
- you are focusing on the potential wrongdoear assumption that food and water are limited
- look to the possible results of his destructiveness, - US: people behave well because of education and
since food & water is needed by man to survive, so conditioning, not out of fear
it deserves protection
- law < moral and social education - Hobbes: human nature is not static
and wasteful for their areas
GOOD REASONS FOR HAVING LAWS REGULATING - why omit LAWS PROTECTING BASIC FREEDOM?
TIME
- to avoid disputes in some states over daylight
saving time, bec. diff. time schedules prevail even
in the diff. parts of the same state
- to avoid people missing appointments, trains,
public events
- to avoid people wasting time by being too early
for various events and engagements
1. list was not exhaustive how about USSR?
- US Constitution as example, guaranteeing - unfree but w/ lots of accomplishments
freedoms of: speech, press, religion, assembly, etc.
- John Stuart Mill: extent of freedom man enjoys
affects his quality of life in society
- W/O FREEDOM MAN CANNOT KNOW:
1. truth
2. creativity
3. genius
4. spontaneity
5. independence
6. self-reliance
whether USSR’s accomplishment have been SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:
because of or in spite of the unfree character of its 1. basic laws that man needs like food & shelter
society 2. laws for legal officials
3. laws for the improvement of man’s quality of life
in society

- give other kinds of laws


- for the just distribution of losses that arise in
human relations

W/O LAWS PROVIDING FOR COMPENSATION OF Why?


DAMAGES/LOSS & W/O JUDGES TO DETERMINE
THE VALIDITY OF CLAIMS TO COMPENSATION
- life & property would not be secure
IF ONE WHO SUFFERED LOSS DEMANDS - your answer is speculative
COMPENSATION FROM THE PERSON WHO - no modern legal system has no laws for redress
CAUSED THE LOSS: of harm or broken agreements
- some may voluntarily compensate for the injured
party, out of social pressure or recognition of one’s
moral duty
- some may refuse  violence/theft

IF A LENDER COULDN’T LEGALLY ENFORCE HIS


CLAIM AGAINST A BORROWER:
- no only would make loans  economy suffers
- laws change SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:
- men introduce new laws from time to time 1. life w/o basic laws against theft, violence and
destruction would be solitary, poor, nasty, brutish
ONE OF THE PRINCIPAL FUNCTIONS OF and short
DEVELOPED LEGAL SYSTEMS 2. life w/o some laws would be less orderly, less
- provide orderly means of social change safe, less healthful, less wholesome, etc.
- w/o these means, social problems would not be 3. some laws provide for the just distribution of
solved peaceably and efficiently significant losses arising from human relations
4. law facilitates peaceful & efficient social change
5. many laws are necessary
- some laws are necessary
NOTES
Human Rights/Bill of Rights
June 4, 2014  Freedom
 Freedom to Contract
 If you live alone in a cave, do you need a law?  Right to Property
- no  Right to Association
 If you live with others, law is needed.  Freedom of Labor
 For Plato and Marx, law is unnecessary.  Freedom of Speech
 Infancy of States  Freedom of the Press
 Law is great civilizing  Right to Social Security
 Personal Freedom
What are other civilizing factors in society?  Procedural Due Process
1. Morality
2. Education/Science Natural Rights vs Human Rights
3. Custom  Natural Rights
4. Religion - one is born with these

Which between Written Law or Custom Law is more certain?  Human Rights
- Just because custom law becomes written, means that written - based on history of mankind
law becomes certain

Elements of Law
1. Authority
- somebody is entitled to issue a command
2. Sanctions/Punishment
- in case of noncompliance/disobedience

 If we do not see police force much along the streets, then the
society must be a well-regulated society, for people follow laws
without force.

 If people do not follow moral rules, people may criticize those


who do not follow.

 Legality adds force to sanction of rules.


 Moral Law is a metaphysical reality.

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