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riginally, I decided against talking about my side of the story especially when I promised to
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keep quiet, however, I feel like it is necessary to understand the context. I and several others
have noticed this behavior pattern that Alex exhibits. This was dealt with in private many times
before coming to a conclusion.
e have concluded that the best closure would be to warn others of this and to prevent this
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from happening again, not just from Alex, but from any creator that misuses their platform.
or the past several months, Alex has shown predatory and manipulative behavior. It has
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brought me and others a great deal of pain. We have also realized this has been going a lot
longer than expected.
veryone in this document has permitted me to use their screenshots or testimonies. All names
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are censored but the person can choose to publicly speak out if they wish.
Alex goes by any pronouns, so in some of these screenshots you’ll see “she”.
The Beginning
( For most of these, there are no screenshots because Alex would ask me to delete his old
phone number and some were said in person)
lex and I would start dating in April 2023 and we broke up in June 2023. At first, there wasn’t
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anything particularly weird that happened because everything seemed to be heavily
communicated or consented. While reliving those memories, there were moments that I did find
strange.
lex would “joke” during our relationship that he would kill himself if anything we sent to each
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other was leaked out and that I was a spy coming to destroy his life. This is one of the earliest
cases of his paranoia and I would try my best to help, but it became apparent later on that Alex
has very heavy trust issues with everyone. It becomes a lot more destructive and gets in the
way of his thinking process.
I would also find it uncomfortable when he would joke in a public server (with a lot of his fans)
that I was keeping him alive and he would’ve killed himself if I didn’t exist (this channel would be
deleted). It becomes cemented in my subconscious to prevent him from hurting himself and to
try to always keep him happy.
e would tell me that he would masturbate several times a day to my photos and messages
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before we opened up sexually while implying non-con fantasies he would do to my clothing if we
never opened to each other. He would later on confess to wanting to wear my clothing before
we opened up as well. Everything about me was sexualized heavily over time including my face,
my voice, and any clothing that I would wear. It ruined the way I viewed myself and how I
viewed romance.
I tried to accept that this was normal and would consent to it, but it was only after the fact he
would confess these things to me. These behaviors are extremely unhealthy habits and showed
he hardly had any self-control. He confessed to me (in a call) that he would have fantasies
about others, especially about their clothing.
Pt 0.5
he aftermath of the breakup would strain our connection over time. Alex had broken up with
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me over text and mentioned he was not feeling any romantic tension between us. It was a
noticeable gradual issue that our messages would mainly consist of sexting and it had less of
that romantic feeling it had in the beginning. I tried to suggest activities we could do to build that
connection again, but I never really got an answer for this, even when we called I felt like it was
brushed over easily.
Pt 1
fter I implied my fears of being used for sexual purposes in a relationship, Alex suggested that
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being friends with benefits would fit us better. I caved in because I was still very much in love
with him and would have done anything for him.
Pt 2
fterward, I had such bad anxiety because I felt extremely dumb for accepting that title after I
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explained that I felt like my main purpose was to give sexual pleasure. It was worsened by the
fact that Alex would tell me that he considered us soulmates and still wanted to say “I love you”
but it does not hold any ground when you’re in a relationship. He also allowed us to explain this
to our close friends. This just felt extremely careless.
I called Alex to discuss the future of our relationship which led to us officially breaking up. In that
call, I also told him that it just seemed like he had lost feelings for me. He then said no, and
explained the issue is with him needing help. He would try to seek help for issues about his
sexual behavior and lack of self-control.
This is a recording of what I was reading to Alex that came from my notes app.
fter we broke up, Alex would come, asking me to delete any messages and photos I had of
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him. I would automatically delete those photos when we broke up, but it is the level of paranoia
that he had that would make me feel guilty for being close to him. I felt like I encouraged a
horrible behavior that he had been struggling to control for a long time. I would have to reassure
him for a good while because he was afraid of people finding out what he enjoyed.
efore I even deleted his phone number, we would discuss about him getting a therapist to
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control these thoughts and guilt. This became a lot more frequent over time and I felt like I
became more of a therapist rather than a friend.
(The first messages he would send to me on his new phone would be about this entire situation)
Pt 3
I spoke up about having an issue with being seen more as a therapist rather than a friend. I felt
like we had less of a connection with each other and my only purpose was to help him. It did
offend me when he would come to me for reassurance but wouldn’t return the same gesture.
Before this, I had just vented to him and was met with silence until I started this conversation.
( These are just from memory) There would be several moments where he would be active
elsewhere while I was venting or even attempting to talk to him. I wouldn’t be offended if it
wasn't a recurring issue. I mentioned being a rebound because I found in our old messages
about him being happy that I was able to fill a void. I would feel guilty for accusing him of having
malicious intent.
Pt 4
It did not feel like anything was changing afterward. There was a noticeable change between
then and November when we became close again. It felt like the reason we became close again
was because I was satisfying Alex’s needs by giving him attention. We were also discussing
what we have talked about similarly during our relationship such as clothing and fantasies.
couple of days later, I would ask him about his search for a therapist. His response did worry
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me due to the fact we discussed the reasons why he should look for a therapist but he
seemingly went back on his words. I understand it is not my responsibility to push people into
getting help, but Alex definitely needed it the most especially when he has been struggling with
this behavior for so long.
Pt 5
I would not text back Alex out of frustration because I expected the conversation to go nowhere
or be met with silence. It is what I expected from him. I wasn’t afraid of talking about my
feelings, it just didn’t seem beneficial to me if the other party was going to ignore those
messages. After this message, it was silence.
Pt 6
I would do this several times when I wouldn’t text him back because I didn’t see a point, but it
would be ironic to me when I decided to not speak to Alex, he would try to interact with me
more. The only time he would accurately reply was if it was about him.
I sort of lied in this message, I was happier because I wasn’t attempting to interact with him or
see him on my social media. I was unable to reveal my true feelings because I believed that I
was overthinking everything and I was paranoid or delusional. I was having a constant internal
battle if I was a good person or not. I wondered why I had these thoughts in the first place if no
one else seemingly had the same issues as I did.
Pt 7
Then he would speak about his guilt again and ask me to delete his old phone number.
I would question if he was continuing being friends with me because he was afraid, on the basis
he would do this to several other people. I was paranoid that I was being kept around because I
learned a lot about him.
lex accidentally misread my messages and thought I wanted to remind him of his bad
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moments, but I would almost be grateful because he would reveal to me that he was miserable.
He pretended he was living peacefully and was able to move on from the incident, but that was
ot the case. He needed to have constant distractions to feel normal and avoid guilt, essentially
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running away from his thoughts.
I understand he was trying to explain that my existence does not make him uncomfortable, it’s
the existence of those media that gives him guilt. But after all of this, he would go back to his old
ways and nothing was changed at all.
hese weeks of being the person having to help him erase those memories felt degrading. I felt
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like I was being kept around because I had these media stored. It would make me feel guilty
being close to him or even dating him.
Pt 8
I put my foot down and told him straightforwardly that he needed help. I noticed the pattern of
behavior he was going through and there was hardly any progress being made. It was obvious
that Alex was not getting better but I could not provide any more help as a friend. Alex
continuously going through this cycle gives me guilt because I felt like I accidentally hurt him.
Pt 9
Pt 10
e had another fight that was similar to the one previously mentioned. I didn’t feel like a close
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friend, we were hardly talking, and I noticed he wasn’t putting much of an effort into keeping that
relationship. I want to iterate that there is a clear difference between then and later when we
were actually speaking to each other.
In his story, he had talked about being his own therapist after going off of his meds. It felt like a
slap to my face after conversing with him several days prior that he was continuously going
through the cycle, taking charge, and hurting himself by avoiding getting help.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with going off of your meds if you believe they are
detrimental to your health and you do not see any noticeable progress, but Alex was not getting
better. This is also not the first time he has been off of his meds. Alex is highly aware of his
cycles or issues but chooses to make situations worse for himself.
Pt 11
I was insulted that he would suggest getting a therapist because “there is nothing more I can do
or say” when that message is eerily similar to what I said days prior. I find issues with him
saying that he isn’t a big texter, it is a lie because of how we talked before we were dating and
from other people’s perspectives as well. Group situations were also a lie because we were in
many of the same group chats or servers with different people and I would feel ignored.
he last image is me after spending time away. I essentially gave up trying to convince him my
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perspective.
Pt 12
elow was the catalyst for an argument in September. It was the moment I realized that I was
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wasting my time fighting with someone who was unable to see my perspective because he
didn’t understand his own feelings and refused to change.
hen I discussed with Alex about seeking a therapist after wanting me to delete any media of
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him, he sent me a text mentioning starting a new chapter with me. I asked him later what he
meant because I find it weird to drop that after we had recently just broken up and the wording
seemed very vague to me.
I was then under the impression that we would start dating again. I find it ridiculous to bring that
up when we were never getting back together. There were never any plans. It would make
sense why I would feel even more upset that he was hardly speaking to me but speaking to
other people because it did not make any sense in my head. I have explained this to so many
people and they were also confused by his explanation.
Pt 13
early a month later, I would ask him for clarification because I was confused. I wanted to
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believe that I was overthinking and that it was my fault for not asking for more details or not
assuming it was just about being friends. But none of this makes sense.
one of this new explanation would have ever been known just from the previous explanation
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he gave me. We did discuss it, you just seemingly gave the worst explanation. Again, I find it
ridiculous to bring up not being mentally ready to be in a committed relationship after we had
recently broken up. I wanted to pretend that this was okay but after conversing with my friends
about what happened between me and Alex, I wasn’t overreacting. I was being emotionally hurt
whether intentionally or not.
Pt 14
lex is unable to understand my feelings. It just didn’t feel like the same person that I was in
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love with months prior. These explanations did nothing but put me in a constant mental loop.
This wasn’t normal behavior and it would be a nightmare for other people to experience this. But
it seemed like I was the only one who had issues and I was alone in all of this.
It is disgusting to go into a relationship when you’re unprepared for the hardship and hardly give
any effort. I felt like we only got into a relationship because I gave him his attention and wants.
Our relationship gradually changed over time for the worse as it became more sexual rather
than romantic. While friends with benefits, I would notice that the attention was mainly focused
on Alex rather than shared. Despite sounding angry, I still wanted to see some growth from him.
This was someone who had a growing career but I feared it would be potentially ruined by his
emotional immaturity.
I never planned on releasing this publicly because I believed it could have been fixed privately. I
was extremely hurt but I saw it unnecessary to release this. I would talk to some close friends
about this in private to feel less alone. Despite that, my ultimate rule that I would tell people is
that this should not be public.
I finally decided to release this to show how Alex has not improved and his behavior seemed to
get worse. It never felt like I was talking to an adult, I felt like I was talking to a child.
Pt 15
early two weeks later, he came back to me to report that he had a therapy appointment. I
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understand my comment was snarky but I truly did not expect him to get help based on previous
conversations and I did not want to go through the same cycle of demanding an answer.
he word miscommunication would understate how mentally exhausting this situation became
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and it would be a common word used to excuse his actions. It all came down to Alex’s
incompetence.
I predicted this long before that us not talking anymore would persuade him to get help. It made
me feel weird because why did it have to get to that point and why didn’t he take advantage of
his resources before?
I made the mistake of continuing to be friends with Alex. I felt guilty and I felt like I wasn’t giving
him a chance to improve. I never gained anything from being friends with him. I don’t know how
we became friends again. I gave up fighting for my position and I was hoping for a change. For
some reason I missed him.
I learned that behaviors can be unexplainable, especially when the other person cannot
understand their own.
Pt 16
Between
here weren’t any prominent moments besides this small discussion I had with him about his
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private story. Alex would time to time discuss his issues about frequently making friends in his
community.
e acknowledged in the past that it is uncommon for creators to befriend their fans. It is quite
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noticeable before this situation that Alex would be very talkative with his followers. He feels a
big disconnect between himself and his fans, in which, he does not feel like a creator, nor does
he have a status.
It is the creator’s job to understand that power imbalance when interacting with fans. A creator
has influence over their fans because of their status. It’s fine if a creator does develop a
friendship through their own community, it’s not impossible. However, it would be highly
irresponsible for him to be unable to see that connection because it becomes an issue with
power dynamics.
nderstandably, a fan would give attention to their favorite creators and it would seem that Alex
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does take advantage of this later on. He mentions being aware of his issues and does nothing
to improve them.
hese moments are not the first time of him wanting to disconnect from his community,
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unfortunately, those other moments were not captured. But this includes his old Twitter
deactivation and his leaving several servers in order to prevent parasocial relationships.
lex and I would start somewhat talking again, but in those conversations that I would start, I
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would be usually extremely inebriated as a coping mechanism to avoid the anxiety I get from
talking to Alex. I would convince myself that this was normal because I felt more happy, but in
reality, I wasn’t being myself. I was in another constant internal battle shaming myself for being
anxious around a friend.
ast forward to December, I started to notice how close and comfortable we were getting. A lot
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of our conversations were similar to how we would talk to each other when we were dating. I
was getting mixed signals again. These conversations would range from complimenting each to
fantasies that Alex had, including wearing my clothing or being me.
I felt guilty for having issues with Alex again. I thought I was being overreactive and that I had a
hard time adapting or normalizing talking like this to friends). I convinced myself that I was the
issue.
Pt 18
ur conversations were so extremely similar to how we talked before (and the way he would
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talk to the next person he loved). It took me so long to realize that this wasn’t normal and that I
was feeding into Alex’s attention and wants.
Pt 19
It was playful at first but became more flirtatious over time. I had a difficult time cutting him off
officially because I saw myself as the issue and thought these problems could be resolved.
Something worth noting, it seemed like Alex wanted to ditch completely during our last
argument and did not want to acknowledge his behavior or change.
I learned later on that he did talk to his friends similarly to how we talked but I find that
off-putting when some of these people did not know about Alex’s fantasies or fetishes. He later
commented that he would have relapsed with his sexual behavior more recently but our
conversations give off a different tone. I find that hard to believe.
Server B
lex would sometimes leave and join back this analog server that I used to mod for. He would
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use it as a way to communicate with some of his fans about updates for upcoming videos and
projects in a small channel dedicated to the Mandela Catalogue, similar to how Catacord used
to be but on a much smaller scale. This server will be referred to as Server B.
he discussions would be normal at first with fans theorizing about the series and also asking
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Alex questions that he would answer. It is hard to determine when it started going off-course, but
at a certain point, Alex became more comfortable talking about his gender identity with his fans.
( A smalldisclaimerbecause I feel like some peoplemay rebuttal and mention that Alex has not
formally come out yet and this is disrespectful to show this side of him.
e would send these messages to a server that had 600 members during the time and dozens
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of fans would be discussing with him, so I’m surprised this never leaked out. Alex, later shown,
would make group chats with his fans to discuss gender identity and outfits.
s the writer of this document, I am trans, and some of the people who were affected by him are
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trans as well. Alex’s identity is a unique case. People should be warned about his predatory
behavior.)
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one of us saw an issue with him exploring this topic at first because we believed it was
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innocent. However, the uncomfortableness started to settle in when we realized this was more
parasocial rather than beneficial. I did not want to ruin the fun of others, so I regrettably kept my
mouth shut about how I felt.
Pt 21
He would change his name in the server to Amelia as I and another friend suggest.
Pt 22
I finally reached my limit when Alex started talking about wanting to create a group chat with
some of his fans on the server. I quickly messaged Alex expressing my concern about this
because I knew it would come off as weird and controversial for a creator to make a group chat
with mainly minors. However. I would quickly delete my messages because they reminded me
that I should not be teaching a creator what to do and reminded me of the discussion we had
months ago about needing to stop making friends with fans. It meant that he had not improved.
lex’s behavior should not be my or other’s responsibility. I should not be this stressed out about
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a person, so this made me want to stray away from Alex entirely.
Pt 23
eferring to the last image, I would, later on, find out that this group chat did actually exist at
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some point and was later deleted. It included some people from Server B, and it had channels
where people discussed about gender and outfits. From one witness, they had posted a photo
of themselves in a dress with Alex commenting things such as “I am so envious of how you
look, I wanna look like you, and I am so jealous of you”. This person would feel uncomfortable
with these comments.
It is perfectly fine to explore yourself, I and others know that experience very much. The issue is
that minors and adults have different experiences and some of these fans were pretty young
(mainly between 14-17). Alex should be talking to someone with experiences around his age.
This sets up parasocial relationships with fans as Alex continues to talk to them on a personal
level.
our fans are not your support group and it is rare for YouTubers to be this personal with their
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fans. Note that no other analog horror creator does this.
lex has issues with not understanding parasocial relationships, but that is non-excusable when
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he is already self-aware of his issues. There is a power imbalance because he is a well-known
creator with a wide audience, meaning, these fans are willing to provide you with attention
because you are their favorite creator. It becomes addictive to talk to your favorite creators if
they seemingly act like a friend.
It is the friendliness that hides that predatory behavior and it can become incredibly difficult to
detect because it makes you feel good to be able to talk to your favorite creator. I considered
Alex my friend, but as a creator, you have a level of responsibility because you have built an
audience. These young fans are impressionable as well.
I then created a thread for the channel because I was getting a little annoyed with gender
discussions and the Mandela Catalogue discussions colliding and constantly going off-track. He
continued talking about his experiences and what he does in private.
Pt 24
e then created another group that we would secretly add people to. It was the same as
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previous chats he would make, he would talk about gender and share outfits. He would delete
his messages that contained photos of himself at a certain point.
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e made a new server so more people could join. This was also deleted at some point but few
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images still exist.
Pt 26
It still had the same concept. I began to notice a relationship was forming between Alex and one
of my friends. Alex frequently interacted with this person on that server and even brought them
up in our private messages. It stood out to me because the way they would speak to each other
seemed familiar to previous interactions.
It would be concerning to me because of the conversation we had months ago about his issues
and how he was not mentally ready to be in a relationship. We haven’t spoken about his
psychiatrist for weeks so I assumed that he was getting better. But with his behavior for the past
month, I felt like he was still not mentally ready.
ut there was entirely no concrete proof of them being together during that time. All I knew was
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that they were getting close but I still worried. From my perspective, I feel like most people
would not be able to handle the fetishes that Alex had mentioned before or his behavior in
general.
Pt 27
efore Alex left Server B, he publicly explained that Amelia was a joke after a member
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expressed they were uncomfortable that Alex shared their dead name. People who were
supportive of the change would feel weird about this.
hey felt insulted that he would take back everything said and pretended that all of it was a joke.
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Even if he was trying to avoid making someone uncomfortable, this would not be the way to do
it. The conversations revolving around identity felt pointless and to claim it was all a joke feels
manipulative as well. You built this type of relationship with your fans and randomly decided to
take it all back.
Pt 27.5
Victim DB
he person affected by Alex will be referred to as DB. The transcript was provided by them (the
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transcript is read from bottom to top).
I vented about Alex on a private account because I finally wanted to move on from everything.
DB saw my vent and started messaging me about needing to speak about Alex as well.
B noticed how close they were becoming with Alex and confessed their feelings. They
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admitted feeling regretful about the conversations they had with Alex for the last couple of days.
Before they messaged me, they had spoken to one of our friends about the same shame they
felt while talking to Alex. Our friend already knew about the situation between me and Alex and
tried to provide guidance by saying Alex was trouble. I offered DB an explanation between me
and Alex to make them feel comfortable talking about their own experiences.
Pt 28
lex first started messaging them privately a week before New Year’s Eve, it is extremely
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important to note they had never truly spoken to each other besides in Server B, but they hardly
knew anything about each other. Alex did not know how DB looked or sounded. The
conversation seemed to start innocently with them talking about outfits and gender identity with
DB offering comfort to Alex.
Pt 29
lex would frequently express his adoration for DB. The friendliness and admiration hides the
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true intent of his actions. DB was a fan of Alex and looked up to him as a creator.
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Pt 31
If people only focused on the given consent or returned affection given by DB, it would make it
more difficult to understand. This consent is superficial. With the status of Alex mixed with how
long they’ve known each other, the power dynamic heavily comes into play. This is predatory
behavior.
creator should take responsibility in this situation and understand their power dynamic, and
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understand why DB would be contributing despite later feeling regretful. However, because Alex
does not understand his status, parasocial relationships, or power, he feels that he has done
nothing wrong and sees this as normal. This love that Alex was supposedly giving was
nnatural. He love-bombed this person in order to receive his wants. Their conversation after
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this would heavily go into sexual territory because that’s what Alex wanted from the beginning.
Also, this was all before they even confessed to each other (besides the last photo).
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lso, creators need to understand that their fandom or community is not a dating pool (this
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MESSAGE was sent to a 16-year-old NOT DB).
Pt 33
fter they confessed, DB would send a photo to Alex. It wasn’t suggestive at all, but when Alex
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sent photos back, they would be a lot more suggestive. One would be showing his ass, laying in
bed, and showing off his legs. Then confessed saying later on that he was hard in those photos.
Pt 34
hey would talk about meeting each other. Alex wanted it as soon as possible and suggested
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getting a hotel. A reminder that Alex still did not know what DB looked or sounded like.
I find this behavior curious because it reminded me of an old message he sent to me. While we
planned for us to meet, he was worried that we were moving too fast.. Nowhere in these
messages with DB would he mention moving quickly until DB brought it up.
Pt 35
As the conversation progressed, Alex would elude into a more sexual territory.
Pt 36
lex has a scent fetish and would specifically enjoy copying people’s poses because he wanted
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to pretend to be them. DB didn’t know at all.
Pt 37
hroughout the conversation, Alex would continue to elude into a more sexual territory by
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continuously love-bombing DB by heavily complimenting them.
Pt 38
B would express later that they felt uncomfortable with how much Alex revealed to them, such
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as sexualizing their outfits (that were meant to be shared in a friendly way), sexualizing their
compliments, their confession, and making the server and group chat as a way to gain attention.
In a new relationship, a party may feel obligated to continue and a have difficult time saying no
or expressing their discomfort because they’re afraid of disappointing the other party. Alex just
wanted to get off and was moving quickly to express his fantasies and desires.
Pt 39
fter they discussed boundaries, Alex quickly eluded to sexual territories again despite DB
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mentioning they were around other people. DB would send more photos of their prom dress,
specifically where they were at prom. Alex would then admit during this that he came to DB’s
prom photos but later deleted them.
DB started to dissociate during it as a reaction to a deleted message that Alex had sent.
Pt 40
B and I would compare our conversations with Alex to each other and it was legitimately word
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for word. We both felt objectified by Alex’s constant sexualization. These conversations would
feel as if Alex wants someone to indulge in his fantasies. This isn’t how you show love to
someone.
Pt 41
B would discuss with Alex again boundaries, feeling that they’ve been moving too quickly (it’s
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been only two days). Alex should know and notice that they’ve been moving at a fast pace if
he’s embarrassed by his own messages and does not need to be constantly told what is wrong.
He has no excuse for his behavior.
e has not learned from his mistakes at all and is incompetent. It was never a mistake that he
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admitted to non-consensually masturbating to DB’s photos that were not meant for sexual
purposes. It was never a mistake that he continuously berated DB with constant sexual
messages. It is not DB’s job to catch Alex’s mistakes like he’s a child, especially when he
acknowledged that his behavior was out of character. He would do something similar where he
felt embarrassed about messages he would send to me.
( Also, this won’t be the last time he will bring me up. I have no idea what the purpose of doing
this if you’re not improving and using our previous relationship as false promises towards
others. I actually find it creepy.)
Pt 42
astly, DB expressed their uncomfortableness with Alex creating a server to garner attention,
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especially from DB. DB was also upset that Alex went back on his words about identity because
they were willing to give so much to comfort.
his server and group chat were supposedly meant for friends to share outfits and talk about
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identities, but the fact the purpose for it was mainly used for one person’s attention and photos
is extremely predatory and very much premeditated. Minors were in that server for no reason.
Alex exploited everyone to gain something for himself.
hese conversations were hardly consensual if Alex was premeditating these types of
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interactions just days before they both confessed to each other.
Pt 43
Finding Out
fter DB told me about their situation, I recommended that they shouldn’t reply to Alex
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especially when I could tell they were not in a good state.
ater, Alex started getting anxious in our friend’s server because both me and DB were ignoring
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him. He then started messaging DB for forgiveness while also trying to give reasons for his
behavior in his manic state (non-transcript because he edited one of the messages).
lex had time to control his behavior and prevent himself from hurting others. Alex will
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acknowledge his harmful behavior but then continue to do nothing. He has learned nothing from
his previous situation with me. He had every opportunity to get support, but rather than actually
improving, he chose to do nothing. He does not learn from his mistakes.
lso, it was extremely manipulative to find different ways to try to get DB’s attention by implying
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he was in danger.
Pt 44
he next day, we woke up to Alex spamming me with messages begging for reassurance and
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an explanation. I literally could not believe this was the start of our new year.
I wasn’t going to explain the situation to him because there wouldn’t be a point especially if he’s
in a state like this and I would expect the same outcome from previous arguments we had. Alex
would taken nothing from it. So many times while he was in this state, he admitted what he did
was wrong. Why do any of us have to explain to him his own mistakes when he hasn’t learned
the first time?
Pt 45
hile during this, he was being reassured by the same 16-year-old from earlier, who had stayed
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up for a day straight just to make sure he wouldn’t commit suicide. This entire situation made
that person so stressed out that they had to seek medical help. Alex never gave him a proper
apology.
( Their timezone is 7 hours ahead of EST, this was the night before he started messaging me
and DB. Alex would water down this situation as me being jealous that he was dating someone
else and that I was unable to move on. He assumed I was trying to sabotage the relationship
while it was DB that came to me. I was not even the first person that DB came to about Alex.
I became angry and withdrawn because I wasted my time trying to help someone who didn’t
listen to me at all and then decided to hurt one of my friends. Alex had the opportunity to change
but continued the same cycle. He chooses to blame others to feel better about himself.
eeling bad isn’t enough to prove that you’re changing nor does it prove that you acknowledge
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your behavior. You sexually violated my friend but thanks for making me seem like I was just a
jealous ex.
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lex had sent DB a very long text explaining his behavior and what his plans are for the future.
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This still does not justify anything and was just a last-ditch effort to save his ass.
lex has trouble understanding what relationships are. He is mainly attracted to people’s
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attention, that’s why he developed a crush. He also doesn’t realize that he doesn’t know this
person whatsoever and still does not understand power dynamics or parasocial relationships.
e says he is unable to process this but that is his fault for not understanding sooner and
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choosing to hurt my friend. He mentioned his issues with parasocial relationships several times,
months before this situation. It is your responsibility as a creator to be able to handle these
personal issues. I don’t fault any fan or DB for falling for Alex’s kindness because he portrayed
himself as very friendly. I was worried that I would be ruining the fun that everyone was having,
but I am not here to teach a creator.
Pt 47
his confirms that Alex made those servers and group chats to gain more attention from DB.
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This is a heavy obsession with a fan and also controlling. This is premeditated because Alex
had set up this entire plan just to get with DB. It should also be assumed that it was planned to
go to a sexual route because Alex admits to coming to DB complimenting him and their outfits
behind the scenes.
hese conversations were fast-paced and lacked actual love. This was friends with benefits with
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extra steps because Alex didn’t want to put in any work besides sex.
ven if this was not the sole reason why the group chat was made, and there have been other
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group chats that have been made before, the difference between that and then is the obsession
ith DB and trying to calculate forming a relationship with a fan you hardly knew. And those
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other group chats were exploited just to give Alex attention and fuel his fantasies.
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lex has issues separating his gender identity from his sexuality. The sexual fetish is not
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inherently bad, but the forced projection onto the other party and uncontrollable sexual appetite
is. He hides his fetish as well. We discussed this months before, but Alex continues this cycle of
hurting himself or others.
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e find this hard to believe because of the number of times Alex has promised to change but
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then does the opposite. This is the reason why we’re choosing to speak about our experiences
to warn fans and to prevent him from hurting anyone else. He had every opportunity for growth
but decided to hurt people in the process. This behavior is destructive.
rying and feeling bad is not the same as changing. Showing growth is changing and being a
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man of your word is changing. If your morals were up to such a high standard, you wouldn’t
even be in this situation.
Pt 50
fter he sent these messages, he sent out an announcement to a private server with some of
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his friends about deleting the server or changing the way he operates online, but his mentioning
that he was going to start fresh absolutely made me furious. He is choosing to run away to
comfort himself while leaving the person he traumatized behind and essentially trying to hide his
“mistakes”.
I decided to release some information into this server because I was tired of hiding everything.
These were my friends as well. From the beginning, we planned to release this publicly and this
was a chance to see people’s reactions. I do wish I didn’t do this way because it made it
somewhat stressful and I didn’t have all of my thoughts together but it did lead to more things.
Pt 51
I went to personally message Alex and told him that I was planning on releasing everything.
Throughout the conversation, Alex begged me to give him a chance to change. I obviously did
not take it.
lex has a sexually addictive behavior that causes pain. I was there when he told me that he
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was searching for a sex therapist. I was there when I asked him several times to get a therapist.
I forced him to get a therapist. I believed that he changed because there was nothing out of the
ordinary from my perspective for months.
ou had multiple chances to improve, why would I give you another after you decided to hurt
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someone? Also, trying to manipulate me into thinking it was just a mistake and
miscommunication when you sexually violated my friend. I am also furious he calls this a
learning experience. Thanks for the emotional damage, glad it was something you can learn
from it.
e then threatened me with suicide. There is never a reason to threaten someone with suicide
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while you’re being confronted. You brought this upon yourself. Alex has made me fear for
months thinking he was planning on hurting himself if I showed any negative emotions. I was
done allowing him to get his way.
Was I aggressive? Sure. Does that excuse anything he was saying? Of course not.
Pt 52
fter Alex went silent, I messaged one of his friends because I assumed they had his mother’s
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phone number and was able to call her. He was safe at that point and tried to negotiate with me.
I agreed to hear him out because he threatened me with suicide. I will always take suicide
seriously but the next morning I had work and was mentally exhausted. He threatened again but
backed off immediately after I pleaded.
I hesitated about telling him that I told the private server about it because I was afraid he was
going to hurt himself.
DB also contacted him about suicide. Neither of us wanted Alex dead.
Pt 53
everal days later, I discussed with him to get his perspective of the situation, but I saw the
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conversation going nowhere and this was something I expected.
I did get something wrong and that was the timing of the confession. During that time, I did not
have the transcript. It does not disgust me any less.
lso, treating the “heat of the moment” like you don’t have the ability to control your thoughts
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while you’re horny does not make you look better. You are still conscious of your actions.
Pt 54
It was silent for days, so I began to pester Alex for a reply. Meanwhile, he came back to his
private server and, instead of taking the opportunity to talk about his perspective, he decided to
accuse them of warning him about his status and that they were not worth his time.
hese people have been around longer than I have. These are people with their own lives, or
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even creators with their own work, or people who are VAs in the community. These are people
who actually saw Alex as an equal. Even when they first learned about the situation, they never
insulted Alex. They patiently waited for Alex to hear his side.
he reason your friend turned against you was because I provided them with information. They
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are allowed to make up their conclusions. To only give an explanation to people close to you
and leave everyone in the dark is extremely childish. It makes you more suspicious.
n explanation is not bowing down to people. You had a chance to explain what you said and
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you decided to drop most of your best friends. To this day, Alex has not messaged any of them.
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It was silent for the next couple of days until Alex sent his last message to me and DB.
he way I’ve been acting these past few days has been a result of your actions. I was ready to
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block you and cut contact, but you promised a message to me and made me wait days with no
updates. When I’m reasonably angry you say you scrapped the original message you had
planned for me and send me this instead. I honestly don't believe you had a message prepared
for me at all. You have not once taken this situation seriously, and I can tell you have never
cared until it was your own career that has been threatened.
“ I’m not going to lie like you didn’t reciprocate those intimate feelings” You put me in a position in
which I had to because of the power you had over me. I was a fan of yours and was horrified I
was going to upset you. I was sick for several days after we did what we did, both physically and
mentally. You were aware of this, I had told you this multiple times. When I went to my sister
about this because I had no one else to turn to, she immediately noticed how creepy you
behaved towards me and my photos, without having seen my face or heard my voice. Everyone
I have talked to has noticed it.
ou were the one who initiated the sexual conversation, you have admitted to this. “I eased into
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the feeling because I could tell you were feeling it” Don’t ever assume this in any of your future
relationships. This is not how you ask for consent from a person. You were asking me to sit in
your lap, which I thought was intimate but not necessarily sexual, and it was you who then
talked about feeling me up and how hot I was. I already struggle with tone as someone who has
SD, I was struggling to see where you were going with this conversation and I wish you just
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stayed nonsexual. I was the one asking for consent, and you never made it clear to me what
you were asking to do with me. I wouldn’t have consented to everything you’ve done to my
photos, what you’ve done to my messages, because you never communicated any of that with
me. You got one yes out of me and took that as permission to be gross to things I sent
innocently, that is not proper consent.
“ You admitted to touching myself already long before I was aware” I didn’t start touching myself
until I had your CLEAR consent. I made sure to check in with you multiple times to make sure
everything I had done or said had your consent. You told me you had ejaculated to my
confession to you, to me complimenting to you, to my photos, to me giving you attention. I do
not consent to you making my very existence and word sexual. With your manipulation aside, I
consented to do things in that moment, yes, but that does not give you permission to do all the
other things you’ve done.
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I honestly wouldn’t have said anything about the moving too fast thing if it weren’t for my sister
because I was scared of you. Because I was nervous about what you would do if I upset you.
You have much more power than you think you have. I said multiple times in the period of those
few days implying I was worried about the pace, you have not even seen my face in recent
photos or heard my voice at that point, and you dismissed it saying you would’ve “loved me no
matter how I looked or sounded”. You saw me as someone easy to have sex with and took
advantage of that, its hard to believe there were any true romantic feelings because you made
zero effort to get to know me at all.
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I’m honestly sick and tired of you feigning ignorance and using your own paranoia to justify what
you did.. Why does it only matter to you when it’s your image on the line? When it’s your
feelings? I wanted to have a relationship with you, and I wanted something genuine. I got none
of that from you. A dog that you trained into doing what you wanted and then kicking them to the
curb. I was not thinking rationally not only because of your constant love-bombing (selectively
acting friendly towards me in a group of people, all the emojis on my photos and compliments,
literally copying emojis I would use, reacting very strongly towards my photos, talking about how
you missed me when I didn't message back fast enough - all before i confessed) but because
you were someone I looked up to for several years. My whole art portfolio is almost entirely art
of your series.
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et me make it clear, It was called manipulation because it was manipulation. The way you
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targeted only me and showed me affection, that is what manipulation is. And it disturbs me this
was your plan since the beginning, without me knowing what your intentions were.
I know what the law is and whatever gotcha moment you think that is isn’t. I wasn’t the one who
deleted messages because I have nothing to hide. You clearly do. If you want to bring this to
court I can’t stop you. But every lawyer I have talked to has audibly laughed at your claims of
defamation, you do not understand how this works Alex. Don’t try and silence us because you
want to save face. You’ve proven time and time again you do not care about the people you hurt
and you are not getting away with this with zero consequences. In your own words- I’m not
going to bow down to you. You’re not above all consequences. I don’t regret what I said either, I
tried my best to be nice to you and I’ve given you more than enough chances. You’ve shown me
your true character.
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B came to me to talk about you because they were afraid of you. I helped DB by sharing my
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experiences and it helped me conclude that you haven’t changed at all. I consider you a danger
to other people and fans. I threatened your livelihood because I don’t believe a creator, that
does not understand responsibility, should have a platform. I inserted myself into this situation
because I know the most about you and I helped so many people realize how awful you truly
are.
I truly did not care for a response and the only reason I felt obligated to listen was because you
threatened suicide. I have shown so many people our text messages and have read it over and
over again to figure out what power I had over you. What disapproval? For several months I
have tried to help you get a therapist and I finally forced you because you weren’t improving and
you were hurting me.
ou gaslit me into thinking your actions were normal and have caused me so much mental
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harm. I wanted to trust that your actions were innocent but now I understand that none of this is
normal. I truly believed we were able to solve our friendship but that was never going to happen
because you will never understand the pain you gave me nor will you understand your own
actions. The outcome was always me apologizing because I trusted you were honest.
Pt 56
I did make a mistake in that conversation because I assumed stuff that wasn’t there (not posting
this here because it is strictly no one’s business). But at what point was I ever trying to have
power over your decisions?
here was never a point before all of this where I felt the need to release everything no matter
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how much you hurt me. I would only vent to my friends about it and that was it. You think so
lowly of me because that’s how you’ve always treated me. You treated me like I was always the
person coming in to ruin your life, especially during our relationship.
I don’t like this weird implication that there were multiple times I involved myself in situations.
The only time was in September and now. All other arguments we had were because I had
issues between us. Those accusations had weight to them because I felt like you weren’t
treating me fairly.
I wasn’t here, no one would understand your behavior and you would’ve continued hurting other
people. That’s why I felt alone for so long because you made me feel like I was the only person
who had issues with you. You are disgusting for violating my friend and for using your status as
an advantage over your fans.
Pt 57
his was not a private matter. You showed predatory behavior towards your fans and sexually
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violated my friends.
or attention? Is that what you think I wanted? I admitted to you that I did talk to them about it. I
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was hesitant because you literally just threatened suicide. I did comment a small bit afterwards
but that was because they wanted to know and I was unable to make a final decision because
you wanted me to hear you out. I did not reveal anything else from that conversation because
we were not done.
I decreased my hostility towards you because I had to make sure you were safe because
suicide was not part of my plan. I apologized to that person because he thought I wanted you
dead. Everyone else thought the opposite and came to my defense about it.
I find it very weird to concept it as “a play on your friend’s emotions” when it was literally the
result of your actions. You decided to threaten suicide towards me and I didn’t take that lightly. I
never wanted you to die and I never wanted your family to go through that.
he only contact I had with your mom is Instagram. I don’t have her phone number, and I will
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never assume social media is more viable than actually messaging a person’s phone.
lso, how strange if your mom actually thought of me that way when you reassured me multiple
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times that I was one your closest friends and you saw me as a life-friend after we broke up. I
have helped you multiple times and you told me your darkest secrets, but for some reason I am
getting poor treatment from your mom. Your mom has replied to my stories multiple times, said
hi to me on her livestreams, and wished me a happy birthday.
I was considered one of your closest friends but me trying to be friendly with her is kissing ass.
Why am I receiving the weirdest treatment some of your closest friends are friends with her and
have contact with her. I have literally met your mom. For what reason would I be kissing ass
when we were literal friends. Your mom had an opportunity to talk to me about your behavior or
ny concerns but chose not to. I don’t have a grudge against her, but I don’t think this was
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appropriate on her part.
hose “minors” were our friends. Those messages were not out of sexual gratification, it was
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literally a callout against you. They deserved to know. I apologized to them for having this
knowledge of you now because I know how heavy it is. Also, I said that I forgot to censor a
person’s name, I knew exactly what I was sending.
Pt 58
top referring hem as mistakes when you emotionally manipulated and harmed people. My
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reaction to all of this was extremely justified. Also, what rules? Was it me asking you to be a
better person?
his entire document was not meant to contact you in any way or anyone else in your family.
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We are not looking for an apology because the damage is already done. You have traumatized
several people in the process. We have the right to speak about our experiences with you. I
have included tons of screenshots to make these claims, and has been stated if there is no
proof.
Pt 59
Server A
his server was created in 2022, it was filled with young Mandela Catalogue fans. Alex would
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join the server and interact with them frequently before removing himself from the server a
couple of months later. This Server will be referred to as Server A.
I wouldn’t have brought this server up if Alex had actually improved and taken responsibility of
his actions, but it proves my point that he is unable to change. His actions were extremely
similar to actions in Server B. Several people brought this to our attention after speaking about
our experiences.
lex developed a personal connection with this server and also talked about his gender identity
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and outfits. The reason for his departure was because he felt inappropriate conversing with
young fans about these topics and wanted to change how he operated online to build a better
image. He wanted to be more cautious about who he interacts with online to prevent anyone
from leeching off of him.
e understands power dynamics, especially over young fans, and can see that conversing with
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these topics with them is inappropriate. So why is this still an issue to this day?
Pt 60
lex is self-aware about parasocial relationships. In both servers, Alex would develop this
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relationship with his fans and then cut everyone afterward after a realization or to protect his
image better. Both times he reevaluated how he talks to people online.
Pt 61
embers would be hurt by this sudden departure. Sometime later, they created a document that
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entailed what happened during his departure. Members would explain their reasons for being
upset with Alex leaving, but it seems that the document suggested that members would explain
to Alex that exploring his identity was not inherently sexual. This seemed to suggest that Alex
had a difficult time removing his sexuality from his gender identity. This is a repeated offense by
Alex where he feels unable to discern that disconnection and then shelters that part of himself.
e had all of this time to figure himself out and grow from his mistakes. Why should I give him
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more chances? This parallels his behavior in Server B where he has no self-control and then
decides to suddenly change one day. If you knew you had issues, why were you sending photos
to minors?
Pt 62
e would send photos to a 14-year-old of him wearing a cat-maid outfit and discuss his gender
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identity personally. He then apologized for talking about such topics with them.
Pt 63
e advocated for an 18+ game night, asked for a face reveal, these weird ass moments of
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lactation and breastfeeding, and cat girl whore subliminals.
I am not making a claim that he groomed anyone, this is predatory behavior and taking
advantage of his fans by using his status. It is off-putting behavior to do this with minors. This
reminded me of when Alex sent screenshots of fans wanting to have sex with him in Server B.
Pt 64
oth servers had him discussing his alter egos. Members in Server A would try to destroy
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evidence of it for Alex to prevent any leak, but then he revealed this to his fanbase in Server B.
He would also mention that Amelia was also an alter ego.
his experience is very unique to me and I have never seen someone who would refer to their
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trans self as alter egos. Your identity is who you are as a person, your transition is not the
separation of yourself, it is still you. Amelia would also be the third alter ego he makes, he made
a second one while we were dating.
Pt 65
Miscellaneous
Stuff I was unable to fit into the timeline but still needed to be talked about.
his was the previously mentioned 16-year-old. He would talk to them about sexual frustration
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and became affectionate. He had so much support but still chose to talk to a minor. This is a
reoccurring issue where Alex would discuss his private life with minors.
Pt 66
I was discussing with DB about an outfit that Alex had sent me. They instantly recognized the
outfit because Alex had sent them lewd photos of it. It was the same suggestive photos as
previously mentioned.
he outfit was based on a 14-year-old’s fanart. He would discuss with the minor in private about
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plans with the outfit. Alex does not have any self-control.
Pt 67
Final words
I want this document to bring awareness about creators misusing their platforms. Alex has
treated this situation like it was nothing and acted like he did nothing wrong. He truly has not
learned anything if he caused so much suffering in the process. You had to be taught about your
own mistakes and actions like a child. I took so much time to myself during our arguments
because I convinced myself that I was malicious and I was hurting a supposed friend. I tried to
improve as much as I could, but you are in a constant loop and continue to hurt people because
you truly acknowledged what you did. You know what you did was wrong.
ou want to act like you’ve changed in front of your fans when you truly haven’t. You are a vile
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pervert.
Defamation
ach state has its own defamation laws, but generally a plaintiff suing for defamation will have
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to show the statement was published false, and harmful to him or her. Meaning, that if the
provided information that is shared cannot be proven false, then there is no case. The only way
there would be a case is if the provided information was edited.
one of these screenshots were fabricated or altered. These statements are not just from DB or
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me, these were from multiple witnesses.
quote from DB’s father, who is a lawyer consultant, “In general, you are more restricted in your
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ability to bring a defamation case if you are a public figure, such as a lawmaker, a politician, or a
movie star. If you are an influential public figure about whom a damaging statement was made,
you must prove not only the above elements of defamation but also that the defendant (the
person who made the defamatory statements) acted with actual malice.
e would have to prove we posted this document with the intent of ruining it and knew the
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information was false.
I mentioned that I did not want him to have a career anymore or did not want anyone to like him,
but you must prove that was out of malice rather than anger. I am stating that this document has
a different purposeful goal. No screenshots were fabricated and tried to give as much context as
I could. Many of us have also tried to help Alex in the process. This was not a sudden act.