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erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert Options
10-13-2021 8:51 AM
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As the latest digitalization trends are transforming compliance regulations, tax
departments are facing new challenges to keep the business running smoothly. With
SAP S/4HANA and SAP S/4HANA Cloud, SAP can support you in the topic of tax
compliance while transforming a perceived tax burden into value-adding
transformation opportunities.
Legal authorities continuously evolve mandates for corporations with the goal to
increase tax controls, prevent tax evasion and maximize efficiency of tax collection.
In the past decades, many changes in the legal requirements have continuously
increased the complexity of compliance for enterprises, potentially putting at risk
operational efficiency. Yet, all these changes to tax processes have been
incremental. For example, authorities have increased the amount of detailed data to
be disclosed, while they have continued to rely on periodic ‘tax bills’ (returns
prepared and paid periodically).
As a more recent trend, changes to tax legislations are more disruptive: companies
are required to alter their well-known business processes, that might have been
optimized for long periods of time, as well as the way they handle tax compliance.
While some countries still require only periodic aggregated data, another trend is
clearly gaining momentum: with the introduction of electronic business documents,
the world has been evolving toward continuous transaction controls (business
processes extended with an additional step that sends business documents to the
tax authorities for registration / approval). These translate to tax authorities becoming
gatekeepers controlling, validating, or even approving tax transactions before they
can take place and, as a result, tax authorities becoming the source of truth of the
tax liabilities to be settled.
The digitalization of tax clearance not only translates into tighter controls with higher
risks of business disruptions, it also forces a paradigm shift with inversion of
traditional roles in compliance: enterprises, as a taxable party, will find themselves
transitioning from preparation of periodic reports to audit the draft returns prepared
by authorities. And they will need to do this in no-time within the existing or even
decreasing operational capacity.
While it might sound simple, audit activities can involve the analysis of thousands or
even millions of records, so automation and technology are quickly becoming
essential to prevent unacceptable explosion of tax compliance costs.
Fig. 1: The journey of business compliance
For more details on SAP Document and Reporting Compliance, read this blog from
Elvira Wallis which includes valuable recordings, spanning from live demonstrations
to working sessions where SAP customers shared insightful use cases for the
solution.
And, if you want to learn more about the business value of the finance innovations as
part of the SAP S/4HANA and SAP S/4HANA Cloud releases, read this blog from
Benno Eberle which includes several product update videos.
e-invoicing
electronic document
statutory reporting
tax
50 Comments
Renan_Correa
Active Contributor
10-13-2021 10:09 AM
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Hi Erika,
Thanks for the update on the topic, I personally like the strategy of linking Document
and Compliance reporting together as it makes sense for me nowadays.
I checked the documentation for S/4HANA 2021 and I have questions only about
about how to refer to the solution for customers now.
Should we still use Advanced Compliance Reporting as a name for the part of the
solution related to legal reporting, its still eith this name in S/4Hana 2021. Or should
we use something like document and compliance reporting for legal reports?
Apart from that I think the documentation and also presentations about it are really
good and the feedback from customer projects related to edocuments and ACR is
also very positive!
regards,
Renan Correa
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
10-13-2021 4:15 PM
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Hi Renan - thank you for your feedback. And great to hear! We will officially refer to it
as 'SAP Document and Reporting Compliance - Statutory reporting'. In regards to
the documentation for S/4HANA 2021, we have started the
harmonization here (more to come).
Renan_Correa
Active Contributor
10-14-2021 9:58 AM
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Thanks Erika.
Waiting to upgrade my test system to S/4HANA 2021 and check the news within
staturoty reporting.
Regards,
Renan Correa
martinlitalin
Advisor
10-14-2021 3:59 PM
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former_member772071
Discoverer
10-17-2021 6:27 PM
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Hello Erika,
asarkhel
Advisor
11-27-2021 6:48 AM
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Hi Samarth,
The latest holistic dashboard that allows to harmonize the end-to-end process is
currently available for 2021 release. Customers on older releases can still have the
full legal scope supported in the corresponding S/4HANA release, but they will need
to upgrade for the dashboard due to technical reasons.
Erika
sanjaysota
Participant
12-15-2021 1:59 PM
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Hello Erika
Will Standard - Advance Sales & Purchase Tax report be continued in S4 or it will
scrap - which will be the new report in use as i believe With new version of VAT
reports in ACR will replace ATR report. Please if you can provide some detail insight
on this report.
sanjaysota
Participant
12-15-2021 2:01 PM
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Also provide your comments on for ESL Listing, Intrastat and other reports will be in
used from tax perspective.
Renan_Correa
Active Contributor
12-15-2021 2:08 PM
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Hi Sanjay,
The SAP Note 2480067 contains the information for "Replacement of Existing Legal
Reports with 'SAP Document and Reporting Compliance - Statutory Reports'". It
depends on the country where you're running RFUMSV00.
Regards,
Renan Correa
sanjaysota
Participant
12-15-2021 2:19 PM
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Thanks Renan
sanjaysota
Participant
12-15-2021 3:14 PM
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Hi
It is not clear like - it looks support is finished for example GB
Renan_Correa
Active Contributor
12-16-2021 10:26 AM
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Hi Sanjay,
That's exactly what is written for GB, support of RFUMSV00 for this country was
finished in 2018. For S/4HANA AFAIK the MTD is only available via ACR / ACR-
SLH.
Regards,
Renan Correa
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
12-16-2021 9:21 PM
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Sanjay - Intrastat is not part of SAP Document and Reporting Compliance and it
continues to be supported within SAP S/4HANA for International Trade.
For the rest (EC Sales List, WHT, etc.), please refer to note 2480067. What is not
listed continues to be supported. For what is in the note, explanation above applies.
Thank you,
Erika
sanjaysota
Participant
12-21-2021 9:40 AM
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Thank You Erika. I will bother again if I have more questions on DRC.
sanjaysota
Participant
12-22-2021 8:40 AM
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If a client use a number of billing systems in combination with core SAP. They will
often post batch transactions on aggregate into SAP, and so the underlying
transactional information is only stored in these billing systems.
I have one question whether it’s possible for SAP DCR to be integrated with other
third party systems, or can it only pull information together that is stored in SAP.
Need to understand whether it is possible to feed other information sources into DRC
for consolidation?
Regards Sanjay
sanjaysota
Participant
12-28-2021 7:11 AM
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I appreciate if I can get some understanding on my query which I had posted earlier.
"If a client use a number of billing systems in combination with core SAP. They will
often post batch transactions on aggregate into SAP, and so the underlying
transactional information is only stored in these billing systems.
I have one question whether it’s possible for SAP DCR to be integrated with other
third party systems, or can it only pull information together that is stored in SAP.
Need to understand whether it is possible to feed other information sources into
DRC for consolidation?"
Many Thanks
Sanjay
Renan_Correa
Active Contributor
12-28-2021 7:51 AM
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Hi Sanjay,
regards,
Renan Correa
sanjaysota
Participant
12-28-2021 12:16 PM
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Appreciate your reply and advise. Your book is silent about this scenario.
Regards, Sanjay
Renan_Correa
Active Contributor
12-28-2021 12:38 PM
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Hi Sanjay,
Thanks for the comment on the book. You're right about it, this discussion was left
out intentionally. Data consolidation is supported in ACR Brazil and also with Central
Finance on select countries, but it has to be checked and advised in detail.
Regards,
Renan Correa
sanjaysota
Participant
01-04-2022 12:14 PM
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Hello Erika,
"If a client use a number of billing systems in combination with core SAP. They will
often post batch transactions on aggregate into SAP, and so the underlying
transactional information is only stored in these billing systems."
I have one question whether it’s possible for SAP DCR to be integrated with other
third party systems, or can it only pull information together that is stored in SAP.
Need to understand whether it is possible to feed other information sources into
DRC for consolidation?
Regards Sanjay
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
01-04-2022 7:06 PM
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Hi Sanjay - apologies, just back from the holidays. Happy new year too!
The above is correct: content from external systems (SAP and non-SAP) can be
integrated via SAP S/4HANA for central finance and SAP Document and Reporting
Compliance can seamlessly offer statutory reporting on top of it. Additional
flexibility/options are provided for Brazil reporting.
While these are recommended options, if your scenarios don't fit any of them, the
extensibility framework (design time) should provide the flexibility required to address
customer-specific requirements via consulting solutions (when aggregated data are
not sufficient, this varies by report/country). Please setup a meeting if you want to
discuss this in more details.
Thank you,
Erika
sanjaysota
Participant
01-04-2022 11:02 PM
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Thank You Erika. I will come back. Can I get your e-mail in case, I need your advise.
Regards,
Sanjay
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
01-05-2022 10:20 AM
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Sanjay - please refer to the SAP contacts in the dedicated PartnerEdge page.
Thank you,
Erika
sanjaysota
Participant
02-05-2022 10:12 PM
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Hello Erika,
Trust you must be doing well. I wanted to check about the License cost of DRC in
detail.
Regards, Sanjay
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
02-05-2022 10:19 PM
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Sanjay - Reseller partners can find license details in the price list and customers can
contact their account executives. Appreciate your understanding.
Erika
former_member753927
Discoverer
02-20-2022 1:05 PM
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DebashishM
Participant
02-21-2022 12:00 AM
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Hi Erika, trust you are doing well ! I am sure you are enjoying at SAP. Great to see
you speaking over video.
I have a query regarding statutory reporting - can it be done out of central finance at
segment(=profit centre) level with the combination of document reporting compliance
and AVL? Have you, as part of SAP, seen any client with such requirement?
Regards.
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
02-21-2022 12:10 AM
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Hi Debasis - Hope you are well too! For which reports would you like to use PC?
In general, we don't support indirect tax reporting by PC. See also in note 1707438
for permanent establishment (PC paragraph).
If you refer to generic financial statements, yes, it's supported. You can see
here: https://help.sap.com/viewer/3cc1da1e1e364fadb9b1af653a9597d2/2021.000/
en-US/9bf041186bf04f7eae8d3373....
Hi Erika
I am exploring some solutions for the migration to the S/4HANA for the client, and
one of the concerns is whether we can make changes in the transactional data using
DRC. Do you know if this is possible ? If Yes, where I can find related material.
Regards, Sanjay
sanjaysota
Participant
05-11-2022 5:00 PM
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Hi Erika,
Regards, Sanjay
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
05-11-2022 10:16 PM
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Hi Sanjay,
Document amendments for reporting only are not supported as figures reported must
fully reconcile with the system of record (that is read in real time). Users can correct
financial documents (reversals, invoice cancellations, credit memos, etc.) and
corrections can be reflected in the right reporting period via SAP Document and
Reporting Compliance. Details can be seen in this
demo: https://sapvideoa35699dc5.hana.ondemand.com/?entry_id=1_wtonip50 or
this How-to video: https://sapvideoa35699dc5.hana.ondemand.com/?
entry_id=1_67802s9k
Last-minute adjustments are supported with full audit trail and controls.
Thank you,
Erika
sanjaysota
Participant
05-12-2022 4:42 AM
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sanjaysota
Participant
05-12-2022 10:15 AM
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Hi Erika
I think it's your last comment around last minute adjustments that Client is seeking to
clarify. Are we saying it is possible to make changes to transactions in DRC during
vat return prep? Example - A tax code or tax amount, where there is no time to
correct in core ERP.
Early reply would be appreciated. Regards, Sanjay
sanjaysota
Participant
05-12-2022 1:58 PM
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Hi Erika
I think it's your last comment around last minute adjustments that Client is seeking to
clarify. Are we saying it is possible to make changes to transactions in DRC during
vat return prep? Example - A tax code or tax amount, where there is no time to
correct in core ERP.
Regards, Sanjay
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
05-12-2022 10:32 PM
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Sanjay - just to clarify, there are no transactional data within SAP Document and
Reporting Compliance (there is no data replication), it reads the data from core ERP
in real-time and seamlessly produce the reports. There is no a replicated set of data
to be edited for reporting only (that would create inconsistencies and audit
problems), it's embedded in the ERP that is the true only single source of truth (for
tax and financials).
'Last minute adjustments' can be done to the report itself. You can check this video
in SAP
Help: https://help.sap.com/docs/SAP_S4HANA_ON-PREMISE/3cc1da1e1e364fadb9
b1af653a9597d2/289f1556d7a94b879f3...
Thank you
Erika
sanjaysota
Participant
05-20-2022 4:29 AM
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sanjaysota
Participant
05-20-2022 4:30 AM
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Hi Erika,
Another question - how many Man-days do you think are necessary for a global roll-
out of SAP DRC?
Regards, Sanjay
Renan_Correa
Active Contributor
05-20-2022 7:02 AM
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Hi Sanjay,
That depends on many factors such as number countries, level of complexity of the
legal requirements, company industry and processes implemented in the respective
country.
If you roll out a sales subsidiary with a couple of scenarios it's usually completely
different than roll out of production plants or retail/wholesale operations.
If you implement DRC in a country with only VAT and no electronic documents it's
completely different than Brazil/Argentina/Mexico/Russia/Italy where you can have
import specific details, special taxes and also electronic document exchange.
regards,
Renan Correa
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
05-20-2022 3:59 PM
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The actual time to configure a standard SAP system for a country can be even less
than a day (even for several countries). But to enable the end to end process in
production strongly varies, depending on how close a customer's system is to
standard, how extensive the testing process is and how well prepared the related tax
and logistic departments are (e.g. documents capture the right information in the
right fields, tax code to tax box mappings, etc.).
Thank you,
Erika
sanjaysota
Participant
05-20-2022 4:07 PM
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mmora_01
Discoverer
08-25-2022 3:56 AM
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Do you have examples of the standard reports in Mexico, Colombia and Argentina?
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
08-25-2022 10:55 AM
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Mario - The files produced follow the format/schema provided by the Tax Authorities
and they can be reviewed using standard preview functionalities (similar to what you
can see for SAF-T here). You can find the reports supported in SAP
S/4HANA here (for SAP S/4HANA Cloud here). If we have an equivalent ABAP
report in ECC, you can find it in the Technical Information column. For CO reports in
ECC, you can check note 3129875.
Hope this helps. If you would like a demo, please contact your Account Team.
Erika
sanjaysota
Participant
09-05-2022 9:58 AM
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Hello Erika,
Do we have any limit in reporting the transactions to the tax authority from S/4 Hana
DRC OP/Cloud. if there is any limit - do we have any extra license cost for OP/Cloud
versions?
Regards
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
09-05-2022 5:08 PM
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sanjaysota
Participant
09-05-2022 5:20 PM
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Thanks Erika - Yes I know for SAP DRC it requires License. However, is there any
limit in reporting the transactions to the tax authority? from SAP DRC - OP/Cloud.
erika_buson
Product and Topic Expert
09-05-2022 5:39 PM
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Sanjay - can you please articulate further what type of limits you are referring to?
You can refer to SAP Help documentation for the compliance scenarios we support
(links in the comment above) and, of course, license can be scaled base don
countries and volume in scope.
sanjaysota
Participant
09-07-2022 8:56 AM
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Thanks Erika for reply. Sorry, if my question was not clear enough for number of
transactions (I meant number of lines) - Is there any limit in number of lines/volumes
which are to be reported to tax authority from SAP DRC OP/Cloud versions. If Yes,
does that mean extra cost even after having the advanced version of license of DRC
- OP/Cloud.
How much volume or number of lines it can handle with advance version of license
of DRC - OP/Cloud?
Regards, Sanjay
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