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What is the difference between the Polar Moment of Inertia, IP and the
torsional constant, JT of a cross section?
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This question is so fundamentally basic that I am almost embarrassed to ask but it came up at work the other day and and nearly no
one in the office could give me a good answer. I was calculating the shear stress in a member using the equation, Tr

JT
and noticed,
11 that for a shaft with a circular cross section, JT = IP .

Both IP and JT are used to describe an object's ability to resist torsion. IP is defined as, ∫A 2
ρ dA where ρ = the radial distance to
the axis about which IP is being calculated. But JT has no exact analytical equations and is calculated largely with approximate
equations that no reference I looked at really elaborated on.

So my question is, what is the difference between the Polar Moment of Inertia, IP , and the torsional constant, JT ? Not only
mathematically, but practically. What physical or geometric property is each a representation of? Why is JT so hard to calculate?

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The torsion constant JT relates the angle of twist to applied torque via the equation:

TL
10 ϕ =
JT G

where T is the applied torque, L is the length of the member, G is modulus of elasticity in shear, and JT is the torsional constant.

The polar moment of inertia on the other hand, is a measure of the resistance of a cross section to torsion with invariant cross section
and no significant warping.

The case of a circular rod under torsion is special because of circular symmetry, which means that it does not warp and it's cross
section does not change under torsion. Therefore JT = IP .

When a member does not have circular symmetry then we can expect that it will warp under torsion and therefore JT ≠ IP .

Which leaves the problem of how to calculate JT . Unfortunately this is not straightforward, which is why the values (usually
approximate) for common shapes are tabulated.

One way of calculating the torsional constant is by using the Prandtl Stress Function (another is by using warping functions).

Without going into too much detail one must choose a Prandtl stress function Φ which represents the stress distribution within the
member and satisfies the boundary conditions (not easy in general!). It also must satisfy Poisson's equation of compatability:

2
∇ Φ = −2Gθ

Where θ is the angle of twist per unit length.

If we have chosen the stress function so that Φ = 0 on the boundary (traction free boundary condition) we can find the torsional
constant by:

Φ
JT = 2 ∫ dA
A
Gθ

Example: Rod of circular cross section

Because of the symmetry of a circular cross section we can take:

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Gθ
2 2
Φ = (R − r )
2

where R is the outer radius. We then get:

R 4
πR
2 2
J T = 2π ∫ (R − r )rdr = = (I P ) circle
0
2

Example: Rod of elliptical cross section

2 2 2 2
a b x y
Φ = Gθ ( + − 1)
2 2 2 2
a + b a b

and

2 2 2 2 3 3
a b x y πa b
JT = ∫ ( + − 1) dA =
2 2 2 2 2 2
A a + b a b a + b

which is certainly not equal to the polar moment of inertia of an ellipse:

1
2 2
(I P ) ellipse = πab(a + b ) ≠ (J T ) ellipse
4

Since in general JT < IP , if you used the polar moment of inertia instead of the torsional constant you would calculate smaller
angles of twist.

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atom44
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This is almost a coincidence, and it is only true for solid or hollow circular cross sections. Of course shafts carrying torsion often are
circular, for reasons that are independent of the question!
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The torsion of a circular shaft is physically simple because of the symmetry of the circular shape. By symmetry, the stresses and strains
at any point can only be a function of the radial distance from the centre line of the shaft. By Pythagoras' theorem, you can take an
arbitrary pair of axes and express the radius as r2 = x
2
+ y
2
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Using that fact, you can convert the integral over the cross section into the sum of two integrals in the x and y directions, and again
by symmetry those two integrals must be equal to each other.

The form of the integrals happen to be exactly the same mathematical form as for the second moments of area of a circular beam,
which leads to the result you asked about.

This doesn't work for non-circular sections, because the stress distribution is not radially symmetrical. For example if you compare the
torsion constant and polar moment of a solid square section, you will find the "constants" in the two formulas are different. The more
the cross section deviates from a circle, the bigger the difference will be.

The torsion constant for an complex shaped section (for example an I-beam) is hard to calculate because the stress distribution over
the section is complicated, and there is no simple "formula" for it that you an integrate mathematically. Many of the formulas for
torsion in engineering handbooks are based on simplified assumptions rather than "exact" mathematical solutions.

But in real life the "errors" are not too important, because when a torsional load is applied to a non-circular structure, the cross
sections "warp", i.e. they no longer remain plane. In real life, the amount of warping is often unknown, because the restraints at the
ends of the shaft affect it. If you really need an accurate estimate of the torsional stiffness of a non-circular component, you have to
make a full 3-D model of the component itself and how it is fixed to the rest of the structure. If you make a model with that level of
detail, there is not much point in reducing the answer to one number just so you can call it "the torsional stiffness".

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Polar moment of inertia, Ip, is the resistance of a solid to be torsioned. However, rotational mass moment of inertia, J, is the inertia
moment of a rotating solid. See this web.
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As I understand, J is the same as normal moment of inertia, but for rotating objects.

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1 Don't confuse I zz 2
= ∫ r dA with I zz 2
= ∫ r dm . He is asking about the polar moment of area, not the polar moment of inertia. – John Alexiou Mar
21, 2016 at 14:37

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