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Ivo #1

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Some very difficult extension questions on projectile motion, I'll


be very impressed if anyone can get these:

1) A golf ball is hit at 60ms-1. At what angle should it leave the


club in order to travel 250m horizontally? You will need to use
the double angle formula .

2) Prove that, in the absence of air resistance, the maximum


range of any projectile is achieved when it is launched at 45o to
the horizontal.

3) How can two projectiles launched with the same speed but
at different angles have he same range?

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rbnphlp #2

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(Original post by Ivo)


Some very difficult extension questions on projectile motion,
I'll be very impressed if anyone can get these:

1) A golf ball is hit at 60ms-1. At what angle should it leave


…show
the club more
in order to travel 250m horizontally? You will need
to use the double angle formula
for the 1st one start with , resolving
. velocities into 60cosx , and
60sinx ..
2) Prove that, in the absence of air resistance, the
and considerrange
maximum motionof in
anyvertical plane
projectile is find the time
achieved taken
when it is
launched at 45o to the horizontal.
use this time and horizontal distance and speed (60cosx) to
find x.
3) How can two projectiles launched with the same speed
but at different angles have he same range?

Its the same kind of thing for 2nd one as well

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BrilliantMinds #3

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2) R = u^2 sin2x / g. For maximum Range R, sin 2x = ?

Equate both R's:

u^2 sin 2x / g = u^2 sin2y/g

sin 2x = sin 2y

(Weird case: imagine if x = 90 deg, y = 0 both will have 0


range.)

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Desk-Lamp #4

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Part 2 was used in my uni interview

Personally I think the questions are in the wrong order, once


you get the distance as a function of angle and velocity for part
2 questions 1/3 become fairly trivial.

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Curiouslad #5

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The question asks us to figure out the initial velocity (v) and
also the time of the flight.
I have made two equations:
v = velocity, t = total time of flight,
1. v cos(theta) * t = 20
2. 3 = v sin(theta) * t + ((10 t^ 2)/2)
Any help?

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GeddyBaby #6

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The time of flight is given in this question as 0.330 seconds -


should make it solvable now.

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महादे व #7

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For max range angle=45°Sin2A=1Sin2A=90°SinA=45°

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DAVIDDIVINE #8

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(Original post by Ivo)


Some very difficult extension questions on projectile motion,
I'll be very impressed if anyone can get these:

1) A golf ball is hit at 60ms-1. At what angle should it leave


…show
the club more
in order to travel 250m horizontally? You will need
to use the double angle formula
THE FIRST QUESTION'S ANSWER .

Range =U^2
2) Prove sinin2A/
that, theg absence
Take g = of
10air
ms-2
resistance, the
250 = 60^2 sin
maximum 2A/of
range 10any projectile is achieved when it is
250*10 = 3600 sino 2A
launched at 45 to the horizontal.
2500/3600 = sin 2A
0.6944/ 2 = sin A
3) How can two projectiles launched with the same speed
0.3472 = sin A
but at different angles have he same range?
0.3472*sin-1 = A
A = 20.31

THE SECOND QUESTION'S ANSWER

The maximum height occurs when the vertical speed - Vy = 0


V0y = V0sinθ
As a function of time, t: Vy = V0sinθ−gt
When Vy = 0:
(1):V0sinθ = gt
Now horizontal displacement: x = V0xt = V0cosθt

(2):t = xV0cosθ

Substituting for t from (2) in (1): V0sinθ = gx/ V0cosθ


=2(V0)^2cosθsinθg

The range is twice this distance so: xmax=2(V0)^2cosθsinθ/g

Substituting the trigonometric identity:2sinθcosθ=sin2θ gives:

xmax=(V0)^2sin2θ/g

Since sin2θ is maximum at 2θ=π/2 then maximum horizontal


displacement occurs at θ=π/4
This proves that the maximum range is achieved when it is
launched at 45 degree angle

THE THIRD QUESTION

This can happen if the angles at which the objects are


launched at are complementary
let me explain this with an equation

the range is proportional to sinAcosA = sin 2A

this is shown as

sin(180−A)=sinA

sin2A=sin2(90−A)

So the range of the projectiles is directly proportional to the


sine of twice the angle and if everything else was constant the
range will be equal when

sin (2A) = sin (2B) ( where A and B are different angles)

For the above equation to be true :-

Either 2A = 2B

-A=B

or

2A = 180- 2B

=> A = 90 - B

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EMwillcock #9

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Q1 is incorrect fool. Did you even put it back into the equation?
The angle is 9.735 degrees

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Adh231 #10

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(Original post by EMwillcock)


Q1 is incorrect fool. Did you even put it back into the
equation?
The angle is 9.735 degrees

Nope, he did it right. I got the same answer (I did it a different


way though - his way was a bit faster)

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alex dedan #11

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i didnt get it

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alex dedan #12

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got it

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Alpha_Barion #13

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I got a question. If you say that sin A = 0.6944/2, then sin 30


should equal to sin (60) / 2, isn't it??

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Eimmanuel #14
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(Original post by Alpha_Barion)


I got a question. If you say that sin A = 0.6944/2, then sin 30
should equal to sin (60) / 2, isn't it??

You may want to review your understanding on trigonometric


ratio.

Note that trigonometric ratios are not linear function.

This thread is more than 5 years, so you would be better that


you start a new thread to ask your query.

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didi king #15

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let me explain something in trigonometry sin(2A)=sinAcosA and


not 2sinA

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