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The Seven Levels


Knights of
of Mankind Lord of the Seraphim
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Home A blog from a faithful member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The main topics are the levels, or
Table About Me ladder, of eternal progression and the end times servant otherwise known as the Davidic Servant.
The Right I. The Seven Levels
Hand of of Mankind
the Lord II. The First Four
Levels of Mankind
III. Levels Five
Multiple Mortal Probations Part II
Through Eight
November 16, 2018
IV. The Levels of
Mankind & The
Rainbow Multiple Mortal Probations Part II
V. Levels - Orders,
Numbers, and
Symbols
VI. The Levels of
Mankind & The
Seal of
Melchizedek
VII. The Seven
Rungs of Jacob's
Ladder
VIII. The Seven
The Davidic Servant
I. An Introduction to the Davidic
Servant
II. 9/23 For Unto Us a Child Is Born
Part I
III. 9/23 For Unto Us a Child Is Born
Part II
IV. Abraham and The Davidic
Servant I
V. The Book of Enoch and The
Davidic Servant I
VI. The Book of Enoch and The
Davidic Servant II - Isaiah 11
VII. The Book of Enoch and the
Davidic Servant III - The Hidden
Servant
VIII. The Davidic Servant is The
Holy Ghost is The Angel of the Lord
IX. The Name of the Angel of the
Lord
X. Awake, O Sword - The Holy
Ghost and The Atonement
XI. Abraham and The Davidic
Servant II - Horus
XII. The Discourse on Abbaton
XIII. The Son of Man An important page from "Book of Revelations" by Wilford Woodruff
XIV. The 8th Angel & The
Disclaimer: The following article is not official doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Testament of Levi
XV. The Servant of the Vineyard but is the sole work of the author. As with all truth, please pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you as you
XVI. The Mystery of the Holy read, and pray afterwards to confirm the personalized message of the Holy Spirit to you.
Sacrament
XVII. Mothers and Sons
Introduction

The Book of Enoch


The centerpiece of this article will be the writings of Wilford Woodruff who adjudicates the writings of the
The Book of Enoch and the Davidic
first article I wrote on Mulitple Mortal Probations. If you would like to skip to the meat of this article, then
Servant I
The Book of Enoch and The Davidic scroll down to the section titled, "Wilford Woodruff - Adjudicator"
Servant Part II - Isaiah 11
The Book of Enoch and The Davidic
When I wrote the first article in this series regarding Multiple Mortal Probations, I honestly expected it to
Servant Part III - The Hidden
Servant be the least controversial. Some form of multiple mortalities seemed like such an obvious conclusion to
The Book of Enoch - Chapter 37 me to at the very least entertain without losing one's cool. How absolutely wrong I was!
The Book of Enoch - Chapter 38
The Book of Enoch - Chapter 39
The Book of Enoch - Chapter 40 As I do with most of my articles, I posted a link to the first MMP article in my favorite LDS discussion site:
The Book of Enoch - Chapter 41 ldsfreedomforum.com Again, I honestly thought I'd get a few comments - maybe 1-2 pages of low-key
The Book of Enoch - Chapter 42 discussion, and that would have been that. Instead, this particular forum thread, titled simply, "Multiple
The Book of Enoch - Chapters 43 &
44 Mortal Probations Article" reached 23 pages of heated, contentious debate until the forum owner locked
the thread.

The Ascension of Isaiah


Several forum posters descended into the most vile, vitriolic behavior that included personal attacks,
Introduction
Chapter 1 attacks against my personal worthiness, and attacks against my family. Now, I'm not claiming to be
Chapter 2 completely innocent as I did indeed feed the trolls (have a look yourself at the linked forum thread above,)
Chapter 3 however I was careful to cite behaviors rather than stoop to personal attacks. I don't want to overly
Chapter 4
Chapter 5 emphasize the "why" behind this behavior, but I do want to address the "why" briefly.

There are many people who naturally treat the gospel like a smorgasbord, picking and choosing what they
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Mutiple Mortal Probations most appealing. The idea we have to "do this all over again" is very unappealing to many.
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and Tribes! However, this behavior alone is not why folks reject even considering MMP.
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Alma 32:39 Now, this is not because the seed was not good, neither is it because the fruit thereof would
not be desirable; but it is because your ground is barren, and ye will not nourish the tree, therefore ye
Report Abuse cannot have the fruit thereof.

In that forum thread linked above, I tried to reason with my brothers and sisters using simple logic. Those
who reject any good seed without ever planting it will never be able to taste of its fruit. MMP is a seed that
produces delicious fruit. Yet, those who stop receiving and those who stop seeking further light and
knowledge begin to lose what they had!

2 Nephi 28:30 For behold, thus saith the Lord God: I will give unto the children of men line upon line,
precept upon precept, here a little and there a little; and blessed are those who hearken unto my
precepts, and lend an ear unto my counsel, for they shall learn wisdom; for unto him that receiveth I will
give more; and from them that shall say, We have enough, from them shall be taken away even that
which they have.

Sadly, this process doesn't end with just losing knowledge.

Alma 12:10 And therefore, he that will harden his heart, the same receiveth the lesser portion of the
word; and he that will not harden his heart, to him is given the greater portion of the word, until it is
given unto him to know the mysteries of God until he know them in full.

11 And they that will harden their hearts, to them is given the lesser portion of the word until they know
nothing concerning his mysteries; and then they are taken captive by the devil, and led by his will down to
destruction. Now this is what is meant by the chains of hell.

As I struggled with the level of venemosity leveled at me throughout the 23-page forum thread, the Lord
led me to Alma 12:10-11 to help me understand what was happening. Before reading Alma 12, I couldn't
fully understand why these folks would not only be angry at someone who merely believes MMP is a true
principle but also descend to deceptive tactics and personal attacks. Holy cow! Alma 12:10-11 is the
answer. Whether the adversary laid his chains by the process laid out in Alma 12 or by some other means,
the fruits of contention, insults, personal attacks, and deception are all of the devil.

That said, let's transition to a lighter note! The good news is when you are on the right path, the
opposition comes. When I write and find no opposition, that's when I wonder if I have gotten something
wrong! Why would MMP be so important for the adversary oppose? Unless ... unless MMP is important to
the revelations of the end times.

Why MMP Isn't Spelled Out

If you even skim through the ldsfreedomforum.com article linked in the introduction, it's not hard to see
why MMP isn't spelled out. Many Latter-day Saints just don't like the idea of MMP being true. You'll see
comments like, "You mean I have to do this again?" or, "rinse, and repeat" or, "It's like Groundhog Day" -
The problem is, all of these knee-jerk reactions are discarding the seed without even so much as a serious
consideration (see Alma 32:39 in prior section.)

Then, the quotes, scriptures, and easy-to-follow logic train (as established in my first article on MMP) are
just cast aside because, hey, I personally don't like the idea of MMP being true.

Another fallacy laid out against MMP is that MMP somehow mocks the Atonement of Jesus Christ because
if we just live again, what was the point? The Atonement must have been meaningless then, right? The
problem with this logic is we know that eternal progression occurs after this life. Whether it occurs in a
resurrected body or a physical body, we cannot progress without the Atonement of Jesus Christ. In order
to see which applies to us in the future, we need look no further than the present world. Is there any
evidence of souls here who were ransomed by another Christ in a prior world so they could move on to the
next step in eternal progression?

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the
world was.
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and
thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

Jesus is praying specifically for the Apostles here and says to the Father, "thine they were." How were the
Apostles the Father's? How did the Father give them to Jesus Christ? Were they the Father's because he
created them spiritually? Or were they the Father's because he ransomed them in a prior round? Bear in
mind the temple endowment where Lucifer tells Adam this new world is patterned after the old one they
came from. Adam traversed from one world to the next. Why?

To progress. Progression is the point. This process is addressed in my series on The Seven Levels of
Mankind. The temple endowment lays out a process of eternal progression - progressing from one
covenant to the next. Robes change shoulders. Shoes are removed and put on again (think about what
that symbolizes,) and each covenant has a promised reward. However, these rewards are not explicitly
spelled out which is very curious.

There's another side of the equation that also only represents half--fortunately in this instance, the
"rewards" half is the representation.

In the Book of Revelation, there are seven promises of overcoming detailed in chapters 2 and 3 in the
messages from the Lord to the angels of the seven churches. There are no promises or covenants given--
only the rewards. This encryption is on purpose! They rewards and promises must be sought out, studied,
understood, and aligned. There is no, "rinse and repeat." This is a progression system.

The five laws given in the temple align to the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh promises of
overcoming respectively. The first and second promised rewards of overcoming is salvation from physical
death and salvation from spiritual death. Though I recommend reading all of my "seven levels" articles,
this article contains graphics that maps these laws to these promised rewards.

So why might the Lord not fully reveal MMP, spelling it out clearly in the scriptures and in His own
teachings? Well, we know the Savior encodes many of His teachings in parables on purpose! He intends
for some to understand, and He intends some to misunderstand, or at the very least, He intends for some
to have a lesser understanding.

Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom
of heaven, but to them it is not given.

But, why does He do this? Why does He not give all His mysteries at the onset? Let's have a look again at
2 Nephi 28:

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here
a little, and there a little:

Some truths are foundational to other truths. If one does not understand the orders and classes of
mankind, where they are in their eternal progression, and the sequential covenants made, then one
cannot comprehend the purpose behind more than one mortality.

So why isn't MMP spelled out? Of course the initiate would not be ready for such information! Come and
be baptized. Imagine explaining MMP to an investigator:

"By the way, the baptism symbolizes death, burial, and resurrection. It may also be a symbol of the
multiple lives we take on for each covenant in eternal progression. See, we are anointed to become priests
and kings in our holy temple, but though we are not priests and kings yet, we will become such in worlds
just like this one just as there are priests and kings in our world. You see, we can become just like God,
but it's a process. See, we will always have our agency. God is an agent. He became perfect just as we
can by.." *HEAD EXPLOSION SOUND*

Of course the initiate would consider "multiple lives" to mean multiple chances to get "it" right. Of course
we must understand "it" before we can even begin to consider the "why" behind Multiple Mortal
Probations. The person contemplating baptism is not ready to consider the idea of MMP, for a
misunderstanding of MMP could certainly lead the investigator to conclude, "I'll get baptized next time."

As Samuel the Lamanite taught, this life is indeed the time to prepare to meet God before it is
everlastingly too late. Each probation has eternal consequences, and our choices can lead to life or to
destruction. However, the prophets have never taught at any time that eternal progression beyond this life
takes place in one body and that there would be no more mortal probations.

To find evidence of milk before meat, take a long ponderous look at the christian gentiles. There is such a
vast diverse array of beliefs throughout Christianity, and the biggest mystery is the nature of God himself.
Many Christian sects argue this principle versus that in their ignorance. It's principle A! No, it's principle B!
As is often the case with two principles that seemingly contradict, it's not A or B but A and B. It's not faith
or works - it's faith and works. It's not the Father and Jesus are separate or they're one, they're separate
and they're one.

Such is the case with MMP. It's not that the resurrection is final or MMP, it's both. There is a final
resurrection, and there is MMP. Else, why would Joseph Smith teach, "you have got to learn how to be
gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all gods have done before you, namely,
by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one; from grace to grace,
from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in
everlasting burnings, and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power.?"

When Amulek teaches regarding the resurrection, he teaches that once the resurrection occurs, our bodies
and spirits will never again be divided, and that this happens before judgement:

Alma 11:44 Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male
and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads
be lost; but every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be
brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which
is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil.
45 Now, behold, I have spoken unto you concerning the death of the mortal body, and also concerning the
resurrection of the mortal body. I say unto you that this mortal body is raised to an immortal body, that is
from death, even from the first death unto life, that they can die no more; their spirits uniting with their
bodies, never to be divided; thus the whole becoming spiritual and immortal, that they can no more see
corruption.

How can this resurrection happen first before the judgement takes place if there are celestial, terrestrial,
and telestial bodies as we learn from Paul and in the Doctrine and Covenants? Again, it's not one or the
other. It's both. How can resurrection and MMP coexist though?

First, consider what Joseph Smith said. Those on the path of godhood must do what all gods before have
done - go from exaltation to exaltation until you you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to
dwell in everlasting burnings. Doesn't that sound like there is a process whereupon we attain glory and
that at some point we will need to attain enough glory to even be able to dwell in the presence of the gods
who have come before? Is there one resurrection in this process as we go from exaltation to exaltation, or
from one eternal round to the next? As we go from "grace to grace," who is the only being who ever
presents the saving power of grace in any eternal round? Do we receive a resurrected body before moving
on to the next round? Do we lay down that body? Or is there some other mechanism in place we don't
understand - that has yet to be revealed?

The Adam-God Teaching

I mentioned in the first MMP article that the temple is essentially "Adam and Eve School." The men stand
up as though they are Adam and awaken. Is this pointing to the future or the past? Both? As I mentioned
above, the adversary is vehemently opposed to the truth of MMP coming to light? Why? To give further
evidence of this opposition, consider the text that comprises what has become the "Adam-God Theory."
This theory is attributed to portions of what is essentially a long paragraph of content, and general
authorities have been dissecting (and some outright dismissing) this "theory" for years.

To see the adversary's hand in this "theory," look no further than those online who call this theory, "The
Adam-God Doctrine." Embraced by fundamentalists, the Adam-God Doctrine has become the primary
excuse of dissenting from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and has become the primary
justification of sin in continuing the practice of the polygamy. Is it any wonder that the Adam-God teaching
(as I will call it) has been used by the adversary to mask this critically important teaching by the prophet
Brigham Young to shed some light on eternal progression. Here is the full teaching, whereas many
(especially the Adam-God doctrine-ites) will just pull out portions:

Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came
into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives,
with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days!
about whom holy men have written and spoken—He is our Father and our God, and the only God with
whom we have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it,
and will know it sooner or later. They came here, organized the raw material, and arranged in their order
the herbs of the field, the trees, the apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other fruit that is
desirable and good for man; the seed was brought from another sphere, and planted in this earth. The
thistle, the thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious weed did not appear until after the earth was cursed.
When Adam and Eve had eaten of the forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its
effects, and therefore their offspring were mortal. When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus,
the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the
Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father
in heaven, after the same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters
of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth, the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father,
and so on in succession. I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole
truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and
overrighteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone. I have heard men
preach upon the divinity of Christ, and exhaust all the wisdom they possessed. All Scripturalists, and
approved theologians who were considered exemplary for piety and education, have undertaken to
expound on this subject, in every age of the Christian era; and after they have done all, they are obliged
to conclude by exclaiming “great is the mystery of godliness,” and tell nothing. ~ Brigham Young JD 1:51

Let's work through the bolded, italicized text backwards. Brigham Young is cutting his teaching short
because of the fact that some mysteries are meant to be left mysterious for all the reasons listed in the
prior section. Next, notice how Adam and Even became mortal - what would have happened had they
never taken the fruit? And, finally, notice how Adam came into the garden with a celestial body and
brought one of his wives - someone he had already been married to! Do you see how this simple
statement alone is an evidence of MMP? Don't we need to be married in the flesh in the temple? Adam
was married to Eve before they entered the Garden of Eden. This isn't, "Oh well Brigham Young was
confused." This is truth.

And, how did he get his celestial body? I don't necessarily mean the mechanics of how it was created but
how does anyone attain a celestial body? Remember, Joseph Smith taught there is one path to Godhood.
Brigham Young's teaching continues, and you won't see many fundamentalists quote this text as it
destroys their idea of Adam somehow being superior to Jesus (they have to make Jehovah someone else
for this to work:)

It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and
Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly
represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. ~ Brigham Young JD 1:51

So Elohim, Jehovah, and Michael / Adam represent Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Now, there's a lot more
to be said about how Michael fits into this trio and about how men become Gods, but that is an article for
another day. Suffice it to say, that Brigham Young is clearly teaching us about who Adam is, who he is to
us, and the scope of dominion under him. Let's return to one of the most important questions to illustrate
MMP. Had Adam never partaken of the fruit, would he have remained in the Garden of Eden forever? Think
on what Eve says to convince Adam to partake in the temple endowment - that he would remain forever, a
lone man in the Garden of Eden. Now, here's the next question: Is there any difference between Adam's
forever state in a celestial body and ours upon resurrection?

2 Nephi 2:22 And now, behold, if Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would have
remained in the garden of Eden. And all things which were created must have remained in the same state
in which they were after they were created; and they must have remained forever, and had no end.

So, no. Now here's the next question: Is it just Adam and Eve who go through this process for a new
world, or are there many souls who go through this process? Is Adam the only one who makes the choice
to leave his state of permanence in order to "gain knowledge?" See where I am going here? Think again
on how every endowed male stands up with Adam and awakens into a new body with him. Now, think on
how many men have done this without ever considering this act may indeed signify we all (and by we all I
mean Ephraim) stood with Adam as indicated in Abraham 3. "We will go down for there is space there."
Go down from where? What if we didn't go down? Was there a process whereupon folks left a state of
permanence by choice to attain the next line or precept in their eternal progression? See what I mean?

So, when the prophets teach our spirit and body will never be divided again, is that the same "never"
condition (or forever condition) Adam's body was subject to until he chose to fall?

Wilford Woodruff - Adjudicator

In the prior article, I laid out a simple logic train. Here it is again in it's simplistic entirety. Remember, this
is a logic train:

Railcar 1: God Was Once a Man


Railcar 2: We May Become Gods
Railcar 3: God Was Once a Savior
Railcar 4: We May Become Saviors
Railcar 5: God Was Once a Holy Ghost

Railcar 6: We May Become Holy Ghosts

These simple facts are all laid out and supported by quotes from Joseph Smith and by scripture. However,
each railcar was laid out by simple logic, and there was no quote that tied it all together for us neatly. Now
there is. By "now" I mean I personally discovered a quote in a discussion forum shared by someone else
who was linking to a blog article written by yet another member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-
day Saints.

This particular quote comes from a book titled, "The Book of Revelations," written by Wilford Woodruff.
Here is an explanation of this book from the blog article written above by W.V. Smith - professor of
Mathematics at BYU.

In the summer of 1839, Wilford Woodruff began copying into a small volume some of Joseph Smith’s
revelations regarding the duties of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and Smith’s instructions for their
upcoming mission to Europe. ~ W.V. Smith

The following entry was made in 1841 after Wilford Woodruff attended on of Joseph Smith's lyceums, or
public lectures geared toward adult eductation:

Joseph the Seer taught the following principle that the God & father of our Lord Jesus Christ was once the
same as the Son or Holy Ghost but having redeemed a world he had a son Jesus Christ who redeemed this
earth the same as his father had a world which made them equal & the Holy Ghost would to the same
when in his turn & so would all the Saints who inherited a Celestial glory so their would be Gods many &
Lords many their were many mansions even 12 from the abode of Devils to the Celestial glory. ~ Wilford
Woodruff, Book of Revelations.

Before any sort of cognitive dissonance settles in, please refer to the following images from
josephsmithpapers.org The quote begins at the bottom of the page and continues on to the next.

The quote ends on the next page, so I guess that was enough said! That statement, if accurate, certainly
cements the MMP logic train. There is one path to Godhood - the same path all Gods who have come
before have taken, and the same path we must all take if we are to become Gods. Jesus is on that path.
The Holy Ghost is on that path and will go on to experience a same or similar course as the Son should he
overcome his probation. This is the same path the saints must take.

Imagine reading this quote from my perspective, where I was personally about as certain as I could be of
this truth without having read this quote before - where I endured personal attacks, insults, attacks on my
family all because of my understanding of this truth. Though the threads of the adversary only reaffirmed
this truth as he opposes all truth, still ... reading this quote was a delight to my soul.

The comment regarding 12 realms is intriguing given the Seven Levels of Mankind and the Seven Heavens
referenced in the Book of Enoch and in the Ascension of Isaiah and other apocrypha. Are there 7 heavens
and 5 "other" realms including "the abode of the devils?" No good answer comes without another great
question ... at least not until one knows all.

Conclusion

There really isn't much else to say. This entire article is itself a conclusion, detailing my personal journey
since posting the first article on Multiple Mortal Probations. I'll just end with these quotes from Joseph
Smith I shared in my frist article that lead me down this rabbit hole or served as my personal, "red pill."

But the Holy Ghost is yet a spiritual body and waiting to take to himself a body, as the Savior did or as
God did or the gods before them took bodies; for the Savior says the work that my Father did do I also. . .
. He took himself a body and then laid down his life that he might take it up again. ~ Joseph Smith, The
Words of Joseph Smith, p. 382

Joseph also said that the Holy Ghost is now in a state of probation which if he should perform in
righteousness he may pass through the same or a similar course of things that the Son has. ~ Joseph
Smith, The Words of Joseph Smith, p. 245 (From Franklin D. Richards Journal)

I wish I was in a suitable place to tell it, and that I had the trump of an archangel, so that I could tell the
story in such a manner that persecution would cease forever. What did Jesus say? (Mark it, Elder Rigdon!)
The scriptures inform us that Jesus said, as the Father hath power in himself, even so hath the Son power
—to do what? Why, what the Father did. The answer is obvious—in a manner to lay down his body and
take it up again. Jesus, what are you going to do? To lay down my life as my Father did, and take it up
again. Do you believe it? If you do not believe it you do not believe the Bible. The scriptures say it, and I
defy all the learning and wisdom and all the combined powers of earth and hell together to refute it. Here,
then, is eternal life—to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be gods
yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all gods have done before you, namely, by
going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one; from grace to grace,
from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in
everlasting burnings, and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power. And I want
you to know that God, in the last days, while certain individuals are proclaiming His name, is not trifling
with you or me. ~ Joseph Smith, King Follett Sermon

A WATCHMAN ON THE TOWER November 17, 2018 at 10:45 PM

Thank you very much Alaris for another wonderful post! I often check in to see if you have found more info
on the Servant, or MMP's... So sad to learn you have been attacked on purely delivering such amazing
truths. Your efforts are noticed more than you realize, and like many other good disciples of Jesus Christ,
you are helping people awake and arise! Soldier on brother!

David

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Chris November 18, 2018 at 10:43 AM

Thank you. You've just added more to my already testimony about MMP.

Alaris March 1, 2019 at 4:19 PM

Thank you for your comment CH :)

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Josh Krogue March 3, 2019 at 6:10 AM

You know Alaris old friend that the quickest way to tell what probation someone is on is by their tongue.
Not just what comes off of it of course but what it allows to pass.

The broader the palate the closer to God I’ve always said!

You know what I mean ;)

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SingerGuy June 29, 2019 at 8:41 PM

I am not new to this concept. Quite the contrary, I have embraced it for several years now. I have had it “on
my shelf” and taken it down many times to carefully look at it with fresh eyes. I have read it from multiple
authors. I have documents dating back decades from various people who tried to describe it to the people
of their time. In everything I have studied, no one has made these things as plainly clear as you have. I have
experienced several new insights into this process through the way you have learned to present this
information. I am very grateful to you for the slings and arrows you have endured to produce these articles.
Thank you very much for doing so, and for your eloquent use of words to teach. I wait upon the Lord for
further light and knowledge while trying to learn all I can of what is already available so I have better
questions when I can ^nally be “taught by the Lord himself,” as President Nelson encouraged me (us all) to
seek for.

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WhiteStone March 17, 2020 at 7:09 AM

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WhiteStone March 17, 2020 at 5:42 PM

There's so much I wish to share and too few words that can truly convey the intimate
communications I have been blessed to have with the Spirit. This blog has been an oasis in the
desert for me. Before 2018, our telestial doctrine gospel was all I needed. Wanting only to
understand the Lords parables on deeper levels kept my soul content. Then at age 72 my mother
apostatize. I could hardly wrap my mind around it. She had left my Dad when I was ^ve, and not
having ever had much of a relationship with her, i had clung to the knowledge that we were sealed
as a family and that at some point I would get to have the loving relationship all children desire to
have with their mother. This broke me in a way I could not have foreseen. I was stunned with
disbelief, then angry, then I spent weeks of feeling such a profound loss and inner sorrow that I
wasnt sure I would ever reclaim the Brightness of Hope I had been blessed to have to lift others.
Its one thing to ^nd the Gospel and have your non-member family reject something they are
ignorant of, its something completely different when theyve spent 60 years in the culture and
doctrine and reject it in the end. There were no appeals, no Doctrinal understandings, no 'come let
us reason together' options. She knew it all and had read it all and had decided it was a grand
fabrication and that she had been deceived. The scope of irony regarding this was tremendous...
for it was just prior to this time that I had gone from being a member of the church to becoming a
Converted Disciple of Christ and of His restored Gospel. At the height of this glorious place I had
reached, I found my mother had moved to the opposite end of the spectrum. I spent what seemed
like an Eternity praying for understanding and relief from the darkness I felt. I knew on some level
this was a test of my conversion, but I struggled with how unjust this seemed for all involved. Still,
my depth of understanding regarding the Eternal Law of Agency witnessed that this was a choice
we knew was possible premortally, though this brought me little relief. I come from stoic stock
and we dont venture off the path of revealed doctrine. I did not go seeking the 'mmp fringe'. The
Lord patiently walked with and sat with and cried with me over the course of a year. He taught me
line upon line, giving me small degrees of Light until
I received a full witness of the Doctrine of Eternal Lives. This is the Doctrine by which all Mankind,
great and small, bond and free may obtain the same Exalted Glory as Father! I have learned ^rst
hand of the Peaceable things and Mysteries of God Nephi spoke of. The mission of Our Savior IS
to BRING TO PASS THE IMMORTALITY AND ETERNAL LIFE OF ALL MANKIND! There are no
clauses that say, "unless they fail in this life". This is an Eternal program and our present level
Doctrine actually stands in opposition to His mission. We are as the Israelites in the wilderness
with our 'modi^ed laws of moses'. The Lord has called us to the base of the mountain to be
redeemed from the Fall! Do you Trust in Him enough to come? Or out of fear of being deceived
will you refrain from coming up to receive a greater portion than what you have?

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NormanFolker May 27, 2020 at 8:20 PM

The undeniable logic coupled with scriptural and prophetic evidences in this and your last article resonate
deeply in my mind and heart. This feels like truth to me. Thank you, Alaris.

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WhiteStone October 28, 2020 at 9:11 PM

I received a knowledge
drop last week as I was pondering the Doctrine of Eternal Lives again. The Lord is so generous! So think
about the Endowment video. Adam and Eve are being visited by Peter James and John the second time as
themselves...Adam asks how to know if they are true messengers and Peter does what?? Extends the
Token with a hand of gesh....thousands of years before he will be born : )

Alaris October 28, 2020 at 10:31 PM

I have a different interpretation here. I do believe each time Peter, James, and John condescends
they are coming down into Mortality. Yet they reveal their true identity just before casting out the
devil and bringing Adam and Eve into the terrestrial world.

They know who Adam is, but he and Eve are also in a mortality at the end. They know who Adam
is. Adam knows who he is. But the devil is lost. He calls Adam "this man."

As soon as they reveal their identities the devil makes clear he didn't know them but then accuses
them of wanting to take possession of his kingdom. The armies and tyrants who oppress... Aka
now.

The endowment is a prophesy. Note the testament of Levi says the DS will remove the threatening
sword against Adam. Read D&C 7. 113.

MMP

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WhiteStone November 6, 2020 at 8:15 AM

I I like that insight! What I was referencing to was that, here again as you've laid out in the train, that Peter
James and John came to Adam and Eve in bodies, Tabernacled Spirits thousands of years before they
were born... and this witness of the Doctrine of Eternal Lives straight out of the Endowment.

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