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NIDA Meeting Calls For Research Into


The Poppers-Kaposi's Sarcoma Connection
By John Lauritsen

New York Native 13 June 1994

Gaithersburg, Maryland, 24 May 1994.

The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) sponsored a high-level meeting, "Technical
Review: Nitrite Inhalants", held outside Washington, DC on the 23rd and 24th of May,
1994. The toxicologists, AIDS researchers, and others present reached a consensus urging
research into the connection between the nitrite inhalants (or "poppers") and Kaposi's
sarcoma (KS). The meeting was organized by Harry Haverkos of NIDA, who has been
writing since 1985 about the health hazards of the nitrite inhalants.(1)

Robert Gallo, as unofficial voice of the AIDS Establishment, disclosed important revisions
in the AIDS-paradigm. It is now necessary to consider co-factors. No longer is HIV
believed to cause KS by itself; at most it may aggravate KS after it has been caused by
something else. No longer is HIV believed to kill T-cells; whatever damage it allegedly
does, it does indirectly. Speaking informally, Gallo discussed the latest thinking on the
nature and causes of KS.

The meeting had implications that went beyond the issue of the nitrites, important as that
may be. It indicated a willingness, on the part of the Public Health Service, to re-think the
basic premises of the AIDS model that has prevailed since 1984. It is high time, for the
HIV-AIDS hypothesis has been a total failure, both in terms of public health benefits and
in terms of making accurate predictions.

Molecular biologist Peter Duesberg, the foremost critic of the HIV-AIDS hypothesis,
attended the meeting as an invited observer. He has designed experiments, and is waiting
for funding, to examine the effects of long-term nitrites exposure in animals. From attacks
on Duesberg in the popular and quasi-scientific press, one might have expected him to be
treated as a pariah. This was not at all the case: the other scientists were friendly, and
listened to him with respect when he discussed points of retrovirology, on which he is one
of the world's leading experts. A reconciliation took place between Robert Gallo and Peter
Duesberg; the two are on friendly terms again, for the first time since 1987, when the first
interview with Duesberg appeared in the New York Native.(2)

For the rest of this article, I'll give some background information on poppers, followed by
a chronological account of the NIDA meeting and my own conclusions.

Background: Poppers and their toxicities

As a prescription drug, amyl nitrite was used by elderly people for emergency relief of
attacks of angina pectoris (heart pain). Historically, the use of the nitrite inhalants (amyl
nitrite, butyl nitrite, isobutyl nitrite, etc.) for recreational purposes has been limited almost
entirely to gay men. The first reports of recreational use date from the early 1960s, after
the amyl nitrite prescription requirement was eliminated by the FDA. The drug appeared to
intensify and prolong the sensation of orgasm. It facilitated anal intercourse, by relaxing
the smooth sphincter muscles and deadening the sense of pain.(3)

The FDA re-instated the prescription requirement in 1969. In 1970 a new industry stepped
into the breach, marketing little bottles containing mixtures of butyl and isobutyl nitrite.
By 1974 the poppers craze was in full swing. Ads for them appeared in all gay
publications. At gay discotheques men could be seen, shuffling around in a daze, holding
poppers bottles under their nose. The miasma of nitrite fumes was taken for granted at gay
gathering places: bars, baths, leather clubs. Some gay men were never without their little
bottle, from which they snorted fumes around the clock. Two separate studies in the 70s
found gay men who were no longer able to perform sexually without the use of poppers.(4)

The toxicities of the volatile nitrites were well known before the advent of AIDS. In 1980
Thomas Haley, one of America's leading toxicologists, published a two-page summary of
nitrite toxicities, with 115 references listed. Here are a few of the highlights:

The toxic effects of amyl nitrite inhalation include rapid flushing of the face, pulsation in
the head, cyanosis, confusion, vertigo, motor unrest, weakness, yellow vision, hypotension,
soft thready pulse, and fainting. Accidental prolonged inhalation of amyl nitrite has
resulted in death from respiratory failure.... Fatalities have occurred in workers exposed to
organic nitrates after strenuous exercise 1 to 2 days after cessation of exposure. Nitrite
causes a loss of tone of the vascular bed and pooling and trapping of blood in the veins of
the lower extremities, resulting in marked arteriolar constriction and the induction of
anoxemia in vital tissues, causing death.... The formation of methemoglobin by aliphatic
nitrite interferes with oxyhemoglobin, causing anoxia of vital organs.... The use of volatile
nitrites to enhance sexual performance and pleasure can result in syncope and death by
cardiovascular collapse.(5)

Also in 1980 appeared the first of several studies to demonstrate that the volatile nitrites
are powerfully mutagenic.(6) (That is, they cause cells to mutate, they cause damage to the
chromosomes.) This is cause for concern, as almost all known carcinogens are also
mutagens.

Subsequent studies, both in vitro and in vivo, have shown that poppers damage the immune
system. They cause two kinds of anemia: Heinz body hemolytic anemia and
methemoglobinemia. They damage the lungs. They have the potential to cause cancer by
producing deadly N-nitroso compounds in interaction with many common drugs and
chemicals, including antihistamines, artificial sweeteners, and pain killers.(7)

When the first cases of AIDS were identified in 1981, or the predecessor cases of GRID
(Gay Related Immune Deficiency), poppers were high on the list of etiological suspects.
Here, after all, was a drug used heavily and almost exclusively by the group of people
getting sick. Nevertheless, despite compelling epidemiological and toxicological evidence,
the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) hastened to exonerate poppers. They did so for two
reasons, both of which were spurious. First, the CDC found AIDS patients who had never
used poppers; therefore, argued the CDC, poppers could not be the cause. The CDC's
assumption was that "AIDS" constituted a single, coherent disease entity with a single
cause. Second, the CDC conducted a brief mice study in 1982-1983, and claimed to find
"no evidence of immunotoxicity". These results are contradicted by several other studies,
which did find that the inhalation of nitrite fumes causes immune suppression in mice. The
reasons for the negative findings of the CDC mice study were explained at the
Gaithersburg meeting by one of the investigators, Daniel Lewis, about which more below.

The Epidemiology of Nitrite Use


After a welcome by Richard A. Millstein, Deputy Director of NIDA, Harry Haverkos
opened the meeting on Monday, May 23 with a brief overview of the volatile nitrites, their
use and regulation. He then turned the session over to Zili Sloboda of NIDA, who
moderated the morning session devoted to epidemiology. She stressed the "importance of
prevention messages".

Andrea Kopstein of NIDA discussed the ambiguities involved in such phrases as "inhalant
abuse". The inhalants are diverse substances that happen to be defined by the route of
intake. The lack of clarity as to what constitutes an "inhalant" causes confusion in
responses to questions in surveys. She presented studies of lifetime use of nitrites among
sex and ethnic groups, which showed that use of amyl and butyl nitrite among U.S. males
decreased after 1986, though inhalant use remained just as high.

Lisa Jacobson, of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, presented data
from the much used and abused MACS study, a cohort of gay male volunteers. Those men
who were "sero-prevalent" (that is, HIV-antibody-positive on entry into the study) had
much higher poppers use. Among all groups in the study, the use of poppers declined.

Kenneth Mayer, a physician living in the Boston area, was among the first to sound the
warning about poppers to gay men.(8) He discussed surveys, which found that the use of
poppers is a risk factor for becoming HIV-antibody-positive. But what does that mean? He
mentioned two possibilities: being HIV-antibody-positive might be a marker for other
health risks, or it might be a marker for illness. He posed the basic question: which is more
hazardous, unsafe sex or drug use?

The highlight of the morning session was "Advertising Trends", presented by Hank
Wilson, a San Francisco activist who in 1981 founded the Committee to Monitor Poppers.
(9) He began by saying that, with regard to poppers, gay men had been uninformed,
misinformed, partially informed, and confused. He then showed stunning color slides of
several dozen poppers ads, from the early 70s through the late 80s. This must rank among
the most brilliant advertising campaigns in history. Within only a few years hundreds of
thousands of men were persuaded that poppers were an integral part of their own "gay
identity". The ads conveyed the message that nothing could be butcher or sexier than to
inhale noxious chemical fumes. Bulging muscles were linked to a drug that is indisputably
hazardous to the health.

Beginning in the early 70s ads for poppers appeared in all of the gay press-ads for special
inhalers-an ad for a brand named "Discorama", specifically targeted at disco dancers. One
ad gave an 800 number, with the message, "We'll pay you to try..." (The free trial tactic has
also been used on the street by dealers of heroin, crack, and other such commodities). An
ad for the poppers brand RUSH focussed on the phrase, "Better Living Through
Chemistry"-and no irony was intended.

However, warnings about the dangers of poppers began to appear in both the gay and the
mainstream press, and for the decade of the 80s, these messages competed with
disinformation from the poppers industry and their allies. Wilson showed the front page of
a December 1981 issue of the New York Native, with a banner headline, "Do poppers cause
cancer?". This message got across even to people who just glanced at it on the newsstand.
A Pittsburgh paper. OUT, repeated the same heading. The City of San Francisco required
than a warning notice be placed at all points of sale for poppers. The June 4-17 1984 issue
of the New York Native carried an article, "Poppers" The Writing On The Wall". On 19 July
1985 the Seattle Gay News published a boxed warning on poppers. And in 1985 poppers
were banned from the most popular disco in San Francisco. The mainstream press in San
Francisco also began to carry the message that poppers were dangerous.
But the poppers industry had its own resources. A 1983 pamphlet published by the CDC,
"What gay and bisexual men should know about AIDS", claimed that there was no
relationship between AIDS and poppers, on the basis of a single mice study (to be
discussed below). In effect, the government gave the green light on poppers use. The
CDC's mice study was cited in a press release sent out by Joseph F. Miller, President of
Great Lakes Products, the world's largest manufacturer of poppers. Miller's press release,
run by most of the gay press, claimed that "Jim" Curran of CDC's AIDS Branch had given
him a guided tour of the CDC and assured him there was no relationship between poppers
and AIDS. When Curran responded with a letter saying that he had been misinterpreted,
and that poppers may play a role as cofactor in some of the illnesses in the syndrome, his
letter was ignored by the gay papers who had run the press release from Miller. Great
Lakes Products followed through with a series of ads in the Advocate, entitled "Blueprint
For Health", which gave the impression that poppers, like vitamins, fresh air, exercise and
sunshine, were an ingredient in the healthy lifestyle.

In 1987 a San Diego gay paper began running full-page ads for poppers. The Windy City
Times in Chicago ran full-page ads, as well as articles attacking the critics of poppers.
Heartland, a mid-west gay paper owned by Great Lakes Products, ran ads and articles
defending their product. The San Francisco Sentinel ran an ad that warned of an impending
ban on poppers ban, and urged its readers to "STOCK UP!". In 1992, three years after
poppers had been outlawed by act of Congress, a stand at a gay street fair in Chicago
offered iced tea for $1 and poppers for $5. In 1992 the manufacturer of RUSH sent out a
mail order ad to "preferred customers".

Hank Wilson concluded his presentation by making the point:

Poppers are easy and cheap to make, they are highly profitable, and there is a demand for
them. Therefore, they will always be available. For this reason, education is essential.

Do Nitrites Lead to Increased Risky Sexual Behavior and HIV Transmission?

The afternoon session of 23 May began by considering the relationship between use of
poppers and becoming HIV-antibody-positive. Whether this matters depends on whether or
not HIV is the cause of "AIDS". Since I don't believe that HIV is even pathogenic, and
consider the survey research (a.k.a. "epidemiology") performed by academics, physicians,
and members of the Public Health Service to be far below professional standards, I took a
rather dim view of this session.

In broad strokes-the speakers indicated that those who were HIV-antibody-positive were
more likely to have more sex and to use all drugs more heavily.

Ken Mayer presented Boston data indicating a very high Odds Risk (OR) of
seroconversion for those who always used poppers when they had passive anal intercourse.
He pointed out that this was biologically plausible, inasmuch as poppers relaxed the
smooth sphincter muscle, dilated the blood vessels, and deadened the sense of pain (thus
increasing the risk of anal trauma).

In the discussion period I put two questions to Mayer: 1) "What is the basis for
determining 'HIV infection'? The antibody tests?", and 2) "Is there really evidence that
these people had a viral infection, and if so, was the virus sufficiently biochemically active
as to cause illness?" He replied that the ELISA and the Western Blot antibody tests were
used, and that they were sometimes followed up by viral culture. This question is
important, as an article in Bio/Technology last year demonstrated that the antibody tests are
unvalidated and extremely unreliable-that many HIV-antibody-positive people have never
been infected by the virus itself, which in any event is virtually never biochemically active
to a degree that would enable it to cause illness.(10)

Jay Philip Paul, an AIDS prevention specialist in San Francisco, discussed the complexities
of classifying events as "risky" or "safe". There are many confounding effects among
sexual behavior, drug use, and other likely health risks. He emphasized that one could
never conduct a controlled study (survey) to answer the question of causality.

Do Nitrites Suppress the Immune System?

The second afternoon session on 23 May dealt with in vivo toxicological studies, two
involving mice and one involving human subjects.

First was Daniel Lewis of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. He
was one of those who conducted the 1982-93 CDC mice study that was the basis of the
MMWR news item (9 September 1983), which claimed to find "no evidence of
immunotoxic reactions". In that study the doses were extremely low, approximating levels
to be encountered as background exposure (used as "room odorizer", workers in a poppers
factory) rather than those encountered when using poppers as a drug (i.e., inhaling directly
from the bottle).

Lewis explained that, in determining the dose, they had to adjust it below the level where
they were "losing" the mice- however, the supplier of the mice later disclosed that the mice
were suffering from a low-grade infection. This means that the deaths of the exposed mice
may well have been due to immunotoxicity-exactly what the study conclusions claimed not
to find-rather than to the acute toxicity of the nitrite fumes. The end result was that the
dose was far too low to be meaningful.

The study was not blinded, as the mice inhaling IBN vapors developed a "yellowish tinge".
Although there were no significant changes in body weight, there were reduced liver and
thymus weights, and an increase in spleen weights. 100% of the exposed mice developed
methemoglobinemia. The white cell count went down sharply.

In the question period I stated that other mice studies had found that nitrite inhalation
caused immune suppression in mice. How did Lewis explain the discrepancy between his
findings and the others? His answer was short and sweet: "Dosage and length of exposure".

The second mice study was presented by Lee Soderberg, of the University of Arkansas.
His mice inhaled 900 ppm nitrite fumes for 45 minutes daily for 14 days, then were
allowed to rest for 1-3 days. Then tests were performed. They found that there were
decreases in both body and spleen weight, the cells in the spleen and in the blood were
reduced, the response to conA was reduced (-28%), the T-dependent cells were very
sharply reduced, accessory cell function was affected (there was reduced ability to support
proliferation of normal T-cells), the macrophage functions were greatly reduced (especially
tumoricidal activity). The recovery of immune functions generally took about a week;
however it took longer for macrophage cytotoxicity to recover (about 2 weeks).

Soderberg and his colleagues reached the conclusion that exposure of mice to nitrites via
inhalation impaired:

- T-dependent antibody responses

- T-mediated cytotoxicity
- macrophage tumoricidal activity

In the question period Peter Duesberg raised the issue of reversibility: What about
something that goes on for years? Analogies here would be the length of exposure required
to achieve a causal relationship between cigarettes and lung cancer, or between alcohol and
cirrhosis. Soderberg replied that his team had "no data on more chronic exposure".

The third speaker was William Adler of the National Institutes of Health. His study was of
8 human volunteers, HIV-antibody-negative males, who inhaled poppers three times per
day for one week, and then intermittently for another week and a half. Baseline
immunological test batteries were run before, during, and after exposure. The investigators
found that the main change was in natural killer (NK) cell activity, which dropped very
sharply. They reached the conclusion: "The results showed that exposure to amyl nitrite
can induce changes in immune function even after short exposure to moderate doses."

Do Nitrites Act as a Cofactor in Kaposi's Sarcoma?

The second day of the meeting, 24 May 1994, addressed the key question: Do poppers play
a role in causing KS? The first speaker was Harry Haverkos, who began by showing a slide
indicating that there appear to be four kinds of KS:

1. Classic KS, occurring among older men, indolent.

2. African KS: 25-40 age group, first indolent then fatal in 5-8 years.

3. Iatrogenic KS (e.g., renal transplant): indolent or fulminant.

4. Epidemic or AIDS KS: gay white males, fulminant, survival 1-3 years.

And he posed the question: "Are these all the same?"

Haverkos cited the cases of HIV-negative cases of gay men with KS (16 in the practice of
one physician alone). He reviewed the epidemiological data, which were inconsistent. Four
studies found a strong and dose-related relationship between the use of nitrites and the
development of KS-however, other studies did not.

He cited a recent study which found that the volatile nitrites are even more powerfully
mutagenic than had previously been thought. Iso-butyl nitrite vapors were 11 times as
mutagenic as iso-butyl nitrite in solution.(11)

Haverkos presented a slide: REASONS TO CONSIDER NITRITE INHALANTS A


COFACTOR IN THE PATHOGENESIS OF KAPOSI'S SARCOMA (KS) IN AIDS:

- Four epidemiologic studies have demonstrated a strong association.

- Decline in proportion of cases among gay men parallels decline in nitrite inhalant abuse
among gay men.

- Distribution of KS lesions correlates with areas of nitrite vapor exposure (nose, face,
chest) in many cases.

- Plausible mechanisms of action have been proposed:

- Formation of cholesterol nitrite (carcinogen)

- Immune suppression.
- Only hypothesis promoted that fits *all* 4 aspects of national surveillance data.

He followed this with another slide: WHY AIDS-RELATED KAPOSI'S SARCOMA (KS)
IS NOT EXPLAINED BY A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED AGENT:

- Very little KS reported outside gay male population.

- Among gay men, KS is associated with white race and high socioeconomic status.

- KS in women with AIDS no more likely among sexual partners of bisexual men that
sexual partners of heterosexual drug abusers.

- No one can find the infectious agent.

In conclusion Haverkos presented a series of recommendations:

- All clinicians/researchers should take a drug history, including inhalants, from patients
with Kaposi's sarcoma.

- A multisite study of KS cofactors is needed (similar to what was done for Reye's
syndrome).

- Women and heterosexual men with KS should be thoroughly evaluated to identify


potential cofactors.

- Animal models should be explored.

- A comparative analysis of nitrite use and KS rates should be conducted whenever such
data are available, e.g., MACS sites.

The next speaker was Harold Jaffe of the CDC, who said that he would take a "con
position" for the purpose of the meeting, even though he was open to the possibility that
the nitrites might play some role in causing or aggravating KS. He argued that the KS co-
factor is likely to be a transmissible agent, since one study had found an association
between KS and rimming. The risk for KS is highest among those who lead a particular
kind of sexual lifestyle, characterized not only by nitrites use, but also by multiple,
anonymous sexual partners.

In the question period I made the point that the nitrites obviously could not be the sole
cause of one or all of the forms of KS. The question is whether they play a causal role in
some or most of the cases of epidemic (AIDS) KS. Their biochemical properties are
consistent with such a role. In contrast, nothing can be said about a microbe which has yet
to be discovered.

Following Jaffe's presentation, Haroutune Armenian of the Johns Hopkins School of


Hygiene and Public Health presented a re-analysis of data from the MACS study. He found
a stronger association between rimming and KS than between poppers and KS. The use of
marijuana and hashish were found to be high risk factors for KS. Not only did he not find a
dose-related correlation between poppers use and KS, he they found exactly the opposite: a
strong, statistically significant negative correlation. In other words, the more poppers you
use, the less likely you are to develop KS. Obviously this violates common sense, and
contradicts other studies, which found a strong positive correlation. The most likely
explanation is that Armenian's data are wrong. It should be noted that Armenian merely re-
analyzed data that had been collected by others, in a study designed by others.
Robert Gallo Revises the Paradigm

The final speaker on the question of whether poppers play a role in causing KS was Robert
Gallo of the National Cancer Institute, who is still regarded by many as America's foremost
AIDS expert. He began by saying that he wanted to open up basic questions, and had no
fixed opinion regarding co-factors for KS- whether chemical, viral, or a combination.
Though not in agreement with all that Harry Haverkos had said, for example the donor
recipient or localization arguments, he was willing to be persuaded.

To my knowledge, this was the first time for Gallo or any other top "AIDS expert" to admit
publicly that HIV was not the primary cause of KS. He said: "We believe that HIV in KS is
an enormous catalytic factor, but there must be something else involved." He continued:

Do you believe that all Kaposi's is one and the same disease? I don't. Why should we say
they are, any more than all leukemias are the same? Leukemias don't all have the same
pathogenesis. Even T-cell leukemias don't all have the same pathogenesis. So why should
we say a benign disease of old men in East Europe of Mediterranean or Jewish stock have
the same disease as a sudden disease in younger people that is far more aggressive? And do
we believe that the iatrogenic renal transplant Kaposi's associated with therapies and
immune suppression is the same disease? I'd at least leave open the possibility that these
are quite distinct, even pathogenetically. I know there's a great desire to link the African
with the modern or epidemic form of KS, and I can understand that, because they're both
aggressive. But they may not be. Therefore, what one tells you may not be good for the
other.... And when you go to the iatrogenic renal transplant KS, you have to argue that it's a
ubiquitous transmitted agent, because all of the people that have it in their kidneys weren't
involved in rimming.

Gallo then went on to revise the most basic premise of the AIDS construct: the assumption
that an underlying condition of "immune deficiency" is responsible for causing, indirectly,
the various AIDS-indicator diseases. He said:

There's a common belief that it's immune suppression that is involved. Our data would
argue the opposite-that it's immune stimulation. You can have Kaposi's in the absence of
immune suppression. I don't think there's any evidence that in the older classic Kaposi's
sarcoma-among older men-that there's immune suppression. There's not good evidence that
there's immune suppression in the African form. And when you speak of the immune
suppression of the iatrogenic Kaposi's, you have to keep in mind that there's also immune
stimulation.

And he posed a few additional questions:

Ask yourselves, who here has evidence that Kaposi's is a true malignancy? Is it only
polyclonal hyperplasia that can harm and even kill? Or does it really evolve into a true
cancer? And if so, how often? There's an enormous increase of Kaposi's in HIV-infected
gay men. What's the role of HIV?

Gallo then proceeded to present a summary of findings from his laboratory regarding KS:

The first thing I can tell you is that we've been able to regularly culture from Kaposi's
tumors what pathologists say is a tumor cell. We asked: What is the role of HIV in all this?
And we found that inflammatory cytokines ... were the very likely initiatory events in
creating this cell. We said, "Oh, the role of HIV is likely to be in increasing these
inflammatory cytokines." But we have learned-this should be of interest to everybody that
isn't completely married to HIV-that the inflammatory cytokines are reportedly increased
in gay men even without HIV infection. Inflammatory cytokines are usually promoted by
immune activation, not by immune suppression. So here was a paradox.... So the
inflammatory cytokines may be increased by HIV, but I wish I knew what else was
increasing them before a gay man was ever infected with HIV. Maybe it's nitric oxide,
maybe it's a sexually transmitted virus, maybe it's all of them, maybe it has to do with
rimming because it's immune stimulation with non-specific infections.... I don't want to
out-Duesberg Duesberg, but those are what our observations on pathogenesis are.

Now what I can tell you new-and it hasn't been published-is that we have finally
demonstrated that at least sometimes Kaposi's can become a true malignancy. That is, from
a late-stage patient, we have immortalized tetraploid cell lines with marker chromosomes,
a truly malignant cell that metastasizes within a nude mouse, killing the animal rapidly....
Now comes the difficult question: That cell looks just like the other cells I've been talking
about, except it's malignant. It looks like it's derived from them. It is there all the time, but
I can't tell, because it's not morphologically distinguishable, as the tumor cell is in
Hodgkins disease. Remember, Hodgkins disease is a hodgepodge, like Kaposi's. The tumor
cell is a rare cell, but you can see it, because it's got a distinct morphology. This doesn't.
Maybe it's there all the time, and Kaposi's a malignancy from the beginning. I don't know.
The alternative is that Kaposi's is a benign hyperplasia that gets worse in time, and that in
some people will evolve into a clonal malignancy.

I don't want to get into the semantics. I believe that HIV obviously plays a role in this
disease. I think the epidemiology is not debatable. But I think that there is more going on. I
don't know what that "more going on" is. For me it's whatever is accounting for the
increase in inflammatory cytokines.

I don't know if I made this point clear, but I think that everybody here knows-we never
found HIV DNA in the tumor cells of KS. So this is not directly transforming. And in fact
we've never found HIV DNA in T-cells, although we've only looked at a few. So in other
words we've never seen the role of HIV as a transforming virus in any way. The role of
HIV has to be indirect.

During the question period Harry Haverkos responded to Gallo's earlier criticisms. When
looking at national data, we do see a decline of KS among US gay men. On the
localization phenomenon: the product, nitrites, is in the lungs and the blood vessels; it is
where the lesions occur, whereas HIV is not there. We do not see the expected donor-
recipient connection-there is not a single reported case of KS among blood recipients
where the donor had KS.

Gallo then admitted: "The nitrites could be the primary factor. What if the nitrites had the
ability, interacting with endothelial cells, to produce to produce a tremendous amount of
'X', of inflammatory cytokines?"

Peter Duesberg raised the point that HIV couldn't always play a role in KS, to which Gallo
replied:

No, Peter, the other forms could be the classical KS that always existed. That's the point.
You see, you want to make them all the same. Let's realize that those may be the classical
KS that always existed. KS always existed, probably through all of human evolution. It
was described in the 1800s. But HIV makes something that was rare become something
like this. That happens in a lot of human diseases. We don't know what causes classical KS
at all, or African KS. They may be the same disease; they may be different. I think they're
different. But even if we have no knowledge of what the etiologic agents are, when I study
pathogenesis of HIV-KS, I come to the importance of inflammatory cytokines, endothelial
cells, and the TAT protein. I used to think all the time, HIV is also producing the increase
in inflammatory cytokines, but it's only in the past few months that I've learned that in gay
men, there's an increase in these same inflammatory cytokines before HIV infection. Why?
I don't know.

Someone then asked, "What are the inflammatory cytokines?"

Gallo replied: "The inflammatory cytokines are IL1 [interleukin 1], TNF [tumor necrosis
factor], and gamma interferon. In gay men, the inflammatory cytokines are increased
before HIV infection."

In response to a question about AIDS-related dementia he replied: "The mechanism of


dementia in HIV-infected people is totally unknown."

Glen Hopkins, an activist from Los Angeles, raised the question of high dose, long-term
exposure. Poppers, after all, do promote mutagenesis. To this Gallo replied: "That's the
most important thing, mutagenesis. Also perhaps nitric oxide."

General Discussion

The final, general discussion, was moderated by Paul Stolley of the University of
Maryland School of Medicine. Robert Gallo started to leave, got to the door, hesitated,
then came back and sat next to Peter Duesberg. Within a few minutes he had his arm
around him, and stayed there for the duration of the final session.

When discussion focussed on what research ought to be done, Gallo spoke strongly in
favor of an animal model, and said that Duesberg's research ought to be funded.

There was general agreement that the toxicology and epidemiology of nitrites use ought to
be rigorously investigated.

My own conclusions, which I expressed inadequately at the meeting, are as follows:

1) The nitrites-KS hypothesis has to be framed carefully. Obviously the nitrites cannot be
the cause of all cases of KS, or even of all cases of "epidemic" or "AIDS KS", as not all
such

cases have used them. The hypothesis would have to be something like this: The volatile
nitrites play a role, as either primary cause or co-factor, in the etiology of "epidemic" or
"AIDS KS".

2) Animal research should be conducted, using high dose and long-term exposure. Ideally,
the animals should be those closest to humans, though cost factors may rule this out.

3) New survey (or epidemiological) research should be conducted to obtain in-depth


information on drug usage and other health risks of those who have been diagnosed as
having "AIDS". The research should be up to professional survey research standards in
terms of study design, sampling, questionnaire design, analysis, etc.

The toxicities of the nitrites are well established, and have been since at least 1980. As
Hank Wilson argued on Monday, poppers will always be available-therefore it is important
to educate gay men and the youth of America as to the physical consequences of using
them.

Conclusion

In light of the statements made by Gallo, it is hard not to think of the tens of thousands of
gay men with KS who have died, and of the treatments they received. If HIV is not the
cause of KS, then how appropriate were the nucleoside analogue drugs, like AZT and ddI,
whose theoretical basis is the HIV-AIDS hypothesis? Similarly, if KS is really not a
malignancy, how appropriate were chemotherapy drugs based on the assumption that KS is
a malignancy? Did these men die from KS, or from the treatments they were given?

It may be hoped that this meeting is a signal of greater willingness on the part of the AIDS
Establishment to re-consider the basic AIDS paradigm. Kaposi's sarcoma as an AIDS
phenomenon remains a puzzle, and no hypothesis so far put forward seems fully adequate
to explain it. It could be that KS comprises diverse conditions with diverse causes. Having
said that, however, the nitrites-KS hypothesis is very much alive, more than a decade after
its precipitous rejection by the CDC. *

References

1. Harry Haverkos et al., "Disease manifestation among homosexual men with acquired
immunodeficiency syndrome: A possible role of nitrites in Kaposi's sarcoma, *Sexually
Transmitted Diseases*, October-December 1985. Harry Haverkos and John Dougherty,
editors; *Health Hazards of Nitrite Inhalants*, NIDA Research Monograph 83, 1988.

2. John Lauritsen, "Saying No To HIV: An Interview With Prof. Peter Duesberg, Who
Says, 'I Would Not Worry About Being Antibody Positive'", *New York Native*, Issue
220, 6 July 1987.

3. For an excellent overview of poppers and their toxicities, read "Nitrite Inhalants:
Historical Perspective", by Guy R. Newell et al., in NIDA Monograph 83 (cited above).
See also Chapter X: "Poppers: The End of an Era" in John Lauritsen, *The AIDS War*,
New York 1993.

4. Ronald W. Wood, "The Acute Toxicity of Nitrite Inhalants", in NIDA Research


Monograph 83 (cited above).

5. Thomas H. Haley, "Review of the Physiological Effects of Amyl, Butyl, and Isobutyl
Nitrites", *Clinical Toxicology*, pp. 317-329, 1980.

6. I. Quinto, "The Mutagenicity of Alkylnitrites in the Salmonella Test" (translation from


the Italian), *Bolletino Societa Italiana Biologia Sperimentale*, 56:816-820, 1980.

7. These points are covered in various chapters in NIDA Research Monograph 83 (cited
above).

8. Kenneth Mayer and James D'Eramo, "Poppers: A Storm Warning", *Christopher Street*,
Issue 78.

9. I have collaborated with Hank Wilson since 1983. In 1986 we published a little book,
*Death Rush: Poppers & AIDS*, which included an annotated bibliography. Unfortunately
it is now out-of-print.

10. Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al., "Is a Western Blot Proof of HIV Infection?",
*Bio/Technology*, June 1993, pp. 691-707.

11. Sidney Mirvish et al., "Mutagenicity of Iso-Butyl Nitrite Vapor in Ames Test and Some
Relevant Chemical Properties, Including the Reaction of Iso-Butyl Nitrite with
Phosphate", *Environmental and Molecular Mutagenesis*, 1993;21:247-252.
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