Final Assessment

Construct a Dialogue

Name: Kriti Kannan

Student ID: 22WU0104064

Section: AIML A

Date: 29th April, 2024

I. James Baldwin and Friedrich Nietzsche on the importance of morality in humans and
the dilemma over few “capable” people taking it into their own hands.

This is about two thinkers who are seldom considered together and highlights previously
unnoticed similarities in their critical responses to scientism (excessive belief in the power of
scientific knowledge and techniques) which was just as prevalent in the late nineteenth
century as it is today.

James Baldwin (JB)

James Baldwin (born August 2, 1924, New York, New York, U.S.—died December 1,
1987, Saint-Paul de Vence, France) was an essayist, novelist, and playwright whose
eloquence and passion on the subject of race in America made him one of the most
important voices of the 20th century. A writer of exceptionally clear and psychologically
penetrating prose, Baldwin addressed race relations with deft complexity and incisive
anger. He was also one of the first Black writers to include queer themes in fiction,
notably in Giovanni’s Room (1956), writing with a frankness that was highly
controversial at the time. His works include the novels Go Tell It on the Mountain (1953)
and Another Country (1962), the plays The Amen Corner (1954) and Blues for Mister
Charlie (1964), and the essay collections Nobody Knows My Name (1961) and The Fire
Next Time (1963).

Friedrich Nietzsche (FN)

Friedrich Nietzsche (born October 15, 1844, Röcken, Saxony, Prussia [Germany]—died
August 25, 1900, Weimar, Thuringian States) was a German classical scholar,
philosopher, and critic of culture, who became one of the most influential of all modern
thinkers. His attempts to unmask the motives that underlie traditional
Western religion, morality, and philosophy deeply affected generations of theologians,
philosophers, psychologists, poets, novelists, and playwrights. He thought through the
consequences of the triumph of the Enlightenment’s secularism, expressed in his
observation that “God is dead,” in a way that determined the agenda for many
of Europe’s most-celebrated intellectuals after his death. Although he was an ardent foe
of nationalism, anti-Semitism, and power politics, his name was later invoked by fascists
to advance the very things he loathed.
(Practically there cannot be a conversation between these two famous personalities as
James Baldwin was born on August 2, 1924, and died on December 1, 1987 whereas
Friedrich Nietzsche was born on October 15, 1844, and died on August 25, 1900. Before
James Baldwin was born Friedrich Nietzsche died thus this is an imaginary conversation
between the two)
JB: Good morning sir, hope everything is good at your end. I was just going through
your work the “God is dead”. I think our ideologies resembles to a great extent, and I am
fortunate to meet you today at this platform, I am excited to share few thoughts and ideas
on the importance of morality in humans and the dilemma over few “capable” people
taking it into their own hands.
FN: Hello JB I am fine thank you, hope the same. I was busy traveling throughout USA
to study in depth about the racial discriminations and existence of the race which is
termed to be superior, though I have my doubts on that, if somebody cannot follow the
basic morality within them than how can he be capable of taking those morals into their
hands and preach others to follow them.
JB: Yes sir, you are right nobody should assassinate moralities and we should make sure
nobody tries to take it into their hands and misuse its inner meaning, take its twists and
turns to their advantage as they use the name of god for every little thing where it is not
required. We have to trust in ourselves not on somebody who is invisible and does not
exist according to science.
FN: Good to know your thoughts, people should give ample priorities to the living and
visible beings than on losing half of their lives relying on somebody who cannot
personally come to you for rescue. Be kind to everyone around you do not show
discrimination to fellow beings based on his work, colour etc., bring equality which is the
truth ruling over the globe from centuries.
JB: True Sir, religious morals and culture is ruling our minds and restricting us to move
forward. If we try to think over other aspects scientifically then the growth and
development would be in different sphere than what we are now with cultural rites
binding us, allowing us not to grow further.
FN: Hum! JB let us catch up at tea sometimes later I am in a hurry, have a flight to catch
to New York.
JB: Sir, now that I have your details with me I will be in touch with you. Mr. FN, nice
talking to you, this gave me an opportunity to analyze your thought process and I think
 we both can bring about changes through our writings and speeches. Goodbye see you at
the earliest.
CONCLUSION: Few Quotes from the books of James Baldwin and Friedrich Nietzsche.
“It is not the strength, but the duration of great sentiments that makes great men.”
“A man of genius is unbearable, unless he possess at least two things besides: gratitude and
purity.”
“He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou
gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.”
“What is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil.”
“I stand before my highest mountain and before my longest journey and therefore must I descend
deeper than ever before I have descended.”
“The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose.”
“Anyone who has ever struggled with poverty knows how extremely expensive it is to be poor.”
“Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.”

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II. Dr. B.R. Ambedkar and M.K. Gandhi on the role of freedom and autonomy of
women in erasing the caste system

Mahatma Gandhi and B.R. Ambedkar were two important figures in India's history, each having
their own identity starving for social change and reform in their own unique ways.

MAHATMA GANDHI (MKG)

Mahatma Gandhi, born on October 2, 1869, in Porbandar, India, was a prominent
leader of the Indian independence movement against British rule. His philosophy of
nonviolent resistance, known as Satyagraha, inspired millions globally. Gandhiji
advocated for civil disobedience, emphasizing the power of truth and love to
overcome oppression. His campaigns, like the Salt March and Quit India Movement,
led to significant milestones in India's struggle for freedom. Despite facing
imprisonment and adversity, Gandhiji remained committed to his principles of peace
and unity. He was assassinated on January 30, 1948, but he remains in the history due
to his legacy as a symbol of peace and justice in the world.

Dr. B.R. AMBEDKAR(DBA)

 Dr. B.R. Ambedkar, born on April 14, 1891, at Mhow in Madhya Pradesh, in India,
was a key figure in the country's social and political landscape. He played a pivotal
role in drafting the Indian Constitution and fighting against caste discrimination. Dr.
B. R. Ambedkar, himself born into a lower caste, dedicated his life to uplift the
oppressed and marginalized communities, particularly Dalits. He was the chairman of
the drafting committee of the Indian Constitution and his efforts ensured the inclusion
of provisions for fundamental rights, social justice, and affirmative action. Dr.
Ambedkar's legacy extends beyond legal and political preview, he remains an icon of
social reform and empowerment, striving to work effortlessly to create a more just
and equitable society.
MKG: Hello! Ambedkar I am glad to see you after a long time and good to know that you are so
aware of the conditions of the women in our country irrespective of their status and background.
Happy to read the article you published on women rights and role of such women towards their
freedom and autonomy in erasing the caste system.
DBA: Hello! Bapuji I am obliged to hear such great words from you. Thank you, we are a group
of 34 men and women who are rigorously working towards caste system issues in our nation. We
feel women in every household are responsible for raising the future generation and can build
strong personalities towards irradiation of caste system.
MKG: You are right women can build a strong nation. She can be goddess Durga for the bad and
Lakshmi for the kind. If she decides on something she can easily bring out changes.
DBA: Sir, I have few ideas on how to go about with this reform. But before that I want you to
understand the overall condition of women in general and that of dalit women
MKG: Then what is the delay why don’t you put it across to me we can see what best can be
done.
DBA: Women are not given equal rights as that of men in our nation --- though this a global issue
lets us first try to focus on our nation, --- few families who are educated also in some way or the
other do not give their women enough freedom to express their views in any matter let that be
family or even her own matters. Dalit women’s situations are even worse they are often working
in modern slavery and are key targets for trafficking. They are used as debt slaves in brick kilns,
garment industries and agriculture. 98% of those are forced into de-humanizing work of manual
scavenging, removing human waste by hand etc. Dalit women may also be born into temple
prostitution as ‘Deva-dasis’ (sex slaves) in India or be branded prostitutes in Nepal due to their
caste status.

MKG: Yes Ambedkar I am aware of these conditions of women though these are inhuman, this is
the culture which is coming from ages and will definitely take time to address, though I have not
experienced the situations as you did at the ground level. I was focusing more towards reforms
on freedom from slavery at the external level with the tools of non-violence and then I would
like to help solve the issues which are internal.
DBA: I am sorry sir but I differ with your ideology of freedom I look at the freedom from any
kind of slavery at any level be it caste or the freedom women struggle to get at their homes.
MKG: Yes though ideologies differ we should have a similar goal that is development of the
nation with the development of the people in it.
DBA: Yes now I agree with you sir we have to achieve these reforms by educating each and
every citizens specially women. An educated women can bring about changes in any aspect, be it
a caste system or any other aspect of growth.
MKG: True Ambedkar but the value good or bad is being imbibed from generations it will not be
eradicated totally or immediately we have to have a strong foundation to start off with and then
ensure it will be carried out till the end.
DBA: Yes sir we have to frame laws in such a way that no caste, people or any religious culture
should come in the way of happiness of any living being be it a man, woman, animal or plants.
All have the right to live and breathe freely and we should ensure we give them such a society to
live in peace and harmony.
MKG: Very true why don’t you do that! You are the right person who has experienced, observed
and is in a position to put it across and bring about changes. Make sure you select such people to
form a committee who have similar thoughts and ideologies to work on these reforms.
DBA: Yes sir I will first put the proposal on the paper then put it across to the Constituent
Assembly through Presidentji. Also women should be educated in such a way that she will be
given freedom to work towards irradiation of all the difference and bring about a positive change
in the society.
MKG: See you Ambedkar with the entire document and a frame work of the ideologies we are
dreaming of, that is “a highly developed nation with unity in diversity, with no inequality and
violence”. “A free and happy India with growth and prosperity”.
DBA: Yes sir, all the words uttered by you will be a reality one day we will all work together to
achieve these and never let the scarifies of our freedom fighters go in vain. We will not sleep
peacefully nor allow other to do so till our goals of the nation are fulfilled.
MKG: I have a meeting to address people in Delhi today. Hope to see you soon Ambedkar.

DBA: Namaste sir, Jai Hind...

CONCLUSION: This was a simple conversation by two big legends of our history there after Dr.
B R. Ambedkar was made the chairperson of the Committee to frame our constitution; it is a
Sovereign, Socialist, Secular and Democratic Republic with a parliamentary system of
government. The Republic is governed in terms of the Constitution of India which was adopted
by the Constituent Assembly on 26th November, 1949 and came into force on 26th January, 1950.