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MCD - Transcript 2002.1Q
MCD - Transcript 2002.1Q
Company Participants
Mary Healy, Vice President, Investor Relations
Matt Paull, Chief Financial Officer
Other Participants
Unidentified Participant, Analyst
Presentation
Operator
Hello, and welcome to the McDonald's investor relations teleconference. By the
request of McDonald's, today's conference is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Mary Healy, Vice President of
Investor Relations. Ms. Healy, you may begin.
Hello, everyone, and welcome. Matt Paull, our CFO, is with me today. And we thank
you for joining us. This conference call is being Web cast live as well as being
recorded for replay on the Web.
This morning we issued a press release with our first quarter results. The language in
that release regarding forward-looking statements also applies to our comments
today. I'll begin our commentary on the quarter with a discussion of earning per
share. Matt will then provide you with some detail. Our review will be brief, since we
discussed the quarter in great detail in our interim update a few weeks ago.
First quarter EPS was 31 cents, both as reported and in constant currencies before a
$43 million charge, primarily related to our previously announced asset impairment
in Latin America and the closing of restaurants in Turkey.
This is also before the cumulative effect of the change in accounting for goodwill.
This 31 cents is seven percent higher than the 29 cents reported in first quarter last
year. It is also one to two cents above the guidance we have in our interim update
due primarily to strong sales in Europe during the last two weeks of March and
better than expected U.S. profitability. Including the $43 million asset impairment
charge first quarter EPS was 27 cents before the cumulative effect of the accounting
change.
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We adopted FAS 142 accounting for goodwill and other intangible assets of January
1, 2002. This standard effects McDonalds two ways, it eliminates goodwill and
amortization. And it requires us to annually evaluate good will on our balance sheet
for possible impairment. As described in the earnings release we recorded a non
cash charge of $99 million after tax or seven cents a share to reflect the cumulative
effect of this accounting change.
Foreign currency translation reduced reported EPS before the cumulative effect of
the accounting change by one penny in the first quarter. However, due to rounding
there was no effect on the adjusted EPS of 31 cents. Assuming rates stay where they
are we expect currency translation to reduce reported annual EPS with or without the
charges by one to two cents.
We expect 2002 annual earnings per share to improve significantly over 2001
results. Consistent with our pervious guidance this equate to 2002 earnings per
share of $1.47 to $1.50 excluding the impact of foreign currency translation and the
$142 million of charges described earlier. We expect significant improvement in the
U.S. business and in our Asia Pacific -- Middle East Africa segment in the second half
of the year. And we expect Europe to continue it's strong results. These expectations
for strong earnings growth in the second half of the year are consistent with Wall
Street estimates.
I'll now turn the call over to Matt to give you some detail.
Our performance thus far in 2002 is about where we thought it would be. As we
have said in the past, we expected the first quarter to be challenging and it was.
Now, we look forward to strong performance in the second half of the year as our
initiatives start to have an impact. My review of sales and operating income will
exclude currency translation and the 142 million of charges Mary just discussed.
System wide sales increased three percent for the quarter. Adjusted operating
income was relatively flat for the quarter. This included higher franchise margin
dollars, lower G&A expenses, relatively flat company operated margin dollars and
lower other operating income.
Each of Europe's big three countries posted positive comparable sales for the
quarter, with Germany and the UK in the low single digits and France in the mid-
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single digits. These three markets also had particularly strong comparable sales
performance in March, helped by the shift of Easter from April to March.
Germany's sales increase was especially notable, given its difficulties earlier in the
quarter. The improved sales were driven by new products and supported by the
equivalent of cents off coupons mailed to consumers. Europe's operating income
increased a robust 13%. This was driven by a seven-percent increase in company-
operated margin dollars and a 14% increase in franchise margin dollars. In addition,
G&A decreased both as a percent of sales and revenues.
In the UK, company operated margins increased as a percent of sales for the quarter,
although higher labor costs continued to pressure margins. Company operated
margins for both France and Germany also increased as a percent of sales. However,
positive, comparable sales growth was somewhat offset by higher labor costs due to
minimum wage increases in each country. Overall, we're encouraged by the
progress we've made in Europe and are looking forward to building upon it. In
Europe, we expect sales to increase in the high single digits and operating income
to increase in the high single to low double digits for the year, excluding $46 million
in special charges in 2001.
Let's move to the U.S., which contributed about 60% of operating income. First
quarter total sales increased two percent and comparable sales declined by one-
tenth of one percent. Operating income decreased two percent, primarily due to
payments of $22 million to owner-operators, to facilitate the introduction of a front
counter team service system. Excluding these payments, U.S. operating income for
the first quarter increase four percent.
For the quarter U.S. company operated margins as a percent of sales improved 50
basis points primarily due to the elimination of goodwill amortization and a lower
contribution rate to the national advertising cooperative. Our U.S. agenda focuses on
differentiated the customer's experience through QSC superiority, great food taste
and variety and everyday value offerings. As a result of this agenda we expect U.S.
sales and operating income to increase for the year in the mid single digits
excluding $181 million of special charges in $2001.
A very important part of the agenda is improving QSC. We intend to do this through
our restaurant operations improvement process. We described this process in great
detail during our last conference call. Our goal, as we said, is to achieve a very a high
standard that differentiates us from the competition. While we do not expect
dramatic change over night, we think the top and bottom lines will improve as we
move into the second half of this year.
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Next let's discuss Asia which contributed about 13% of operating income. This
segment saw a two percent decline in first quarter sales and a 20% decline in
constant currency operating income. Comparable sales or the segment declined
eight percent for the quarter primarily driven by Japan's low teen's comparable
sales decline. In Japan continuing weak economic conditions, consumer concerns
about the government's ability to regulate food safety and a temporary interruption
in the supple of Chicken McNuggets, which has since been resolved, all contributed
to the sales decline.
Another contributing factor to the segments operating income decline was the
comparison against a real estate gain in Singapore in the first quarter of last year.
On a positive note, Australia, China and New Zealand all performed well during the
quarter. In particular Australia's comparable sales were mid single digit positive for
the quarter driven primarily by their new taste menu.
I'll close with comments on two additional items. First, interest expense decreased
almost $30 million or 24% for the quarter. This was primarily due to lower average
interest rates partly by higher average debt levels. We expect the percentage
decrease in interest expense to moderate throughout the year.
The second item is our repurchase of almost 12 million shares of common stock
during the quarter for $331 million. We expect purchase activity in the remaining
quarters to be lower.
With that brief summary of our results, I'll open the call up for your questions.
Operator
And at this time, we'll begin the question-and-answer portion of today's call. If you'd
like to ask a question, please press star, one, on your touch-tone phone pad. To
withdraw your question, press star, two. Once again, that is star one to ask a question
and star, two, to withdraw your question. And our first question comes from Michael
Scherk [ph] of Morgan Stanley.
Q - Unidentified Participant
The first is if you could give us an update with regard to the launch of the value
pricing or the dollar menu in California and the impact that that has had. And then,
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lastly, just on the financials, if you could supply us with the EBITDA number as well as
the debt level at the end of the quarter? Thanks.
You know, that particular area of the country was going against some really strong
numbers from prior years because they had been one of our top performing areas.
So they -- as I recollect -- they haven't yet been able to turn their comp sales to the
positive, but they do believe that the value menu was having a positive incremental
sales effect. Although, again, they wanted to complement the everyday value menu
with some other initiatives, both on the food side as well as their service initiative.
In fact, now, I think we have some type of an everyday value menu in close to 4,000
restaurants across the U.S. So, we're committed to building the business through
everyday value offerings. We think that they can allow us to give customers choices
to kind of build their own value meal in addition to the extra value meal choices we
already offer them. Some customers want to buy their products a la carte and these
fit in nicely with those customer desires and preferences.
And we also see in some of these markets where people will add on a product to
their purchase which may include an extra value, and then they'll get a product from
the dollar menu and it will be an add on.
So I think we're we'll see where the L.A. specific iteration goes. They seem to be
satisfied so far with the early results, although as I had mentioned, they made some
adjustments and they're kind of building on that.
So the increase from last year at this time is about $400 million on a base of about $9
billion. Thank you.
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Operator
And our next question comes from Coralee Wichter [ph] of Goldman Sachs.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Hi, I have two questions actually. The first is in terms of the unit account growth it
seemed a little bit lit in the quarter even taking into consideration the sale of Aroma
[ph] and just wondering what that means in terms of meeting your full year guidance
for the unit additions?
And then secondly, in the U.S. it looks like in March you saw a little bit of
deterioration. For the first two months of the year, you had reported three percent
growth in system wide sales and for the full quarter two percent. So if you can help
us understand what happened in the U.S. during the month.
So I believe you're looking at just the change from December 31st to March 31st. And
that would just reflect the normal seasonality in the reduction of openings.
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also fudge brownies that we're promoting on a national basis, that will be part of our
new taste menu, which is our efforts to brand varieties. So that people know that
when they come into their stores, there will always be something new. And we rotate
those every six to eight weeks.
Operator
And our next question comes from John Gless [ph] of CIBC.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Thanks. A couple of questions on the U.S. margins. One is could you desegregate
how much of a benefit you got in the U.S. from the reduction of ad spending versus
the G&A -- the D&A elimination. And also, is there any lower sales in March? This also
implied maybe you did a little less discounting in there for that improved margins,
comments on the competitive environment.
And then, finally, with respect to the payments to the franchisees for the front
counter service, is any of that -- go into the second quarter or is that all done in this
quarter? Thanks.
In some cases, they are. In some cases they aren't. So that 35 basis points -- some
number less than that is contributing to the margin improvement. And then, most of
the balance is attributable to the elimination of goodwill amortization.
In terms of your question on less discounting in March versus otherwise, I'm not
really sure about that. I don't think I have enough facts to comment on that. Again we
have an everyday value offering in 4,000 plus restaurants, at least, in the United
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States. And that's every day. And now other markets are doing things on kind of
localized window basis and maybe different days of the week. So, I don't think that
was a significant factor. Thank you.
Operator
And our next question comes from Mark Kellenowski [ph] of Salomon Smith Barney.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Hi. I just wanted to say, first off, I think it's a good idea that you're putting in a little bit
more explicit same store sales information by region so I wanted to thank for your
that.
Two questions, first, just regarding the March sales in Europe which look very good,
just wondering, what might lead you to believe that those types of sales levels might
be either sustainable or not sustainable?
And the second question has to do with the mystery shops that have been
conducted in the U.S. I was just wondering, is there any noticeable difference
between how the franchise restaurants are scoring and the company owned
restaurants are scoring? Thanks.
I think if you put in perspective our target for the year in terms of Europe sales being
in the high single digits, and for the quarter they were -- it was up 10%. So we're not
talking about a huge follow up relative to the quarter's performance, but I do think
March was probably stronger than that.
And particularly, in Germany, their sales were driven also partly by the introduction
of some new product. And they have some additional plans as we move throughout
this quarter, however, as we all know sometimes new product introductions can give
you an initial boost that doesn't necessarily sustain the debt level either.
So we feel good about our expectation to achieve high single digit growth in Europe
sales for the year, but that would be slightly off of what -- the level for March.
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that you know we're seeing about the same issues showing up in our company
operated and our franchise stores. I can't report that we're doing a whole lot better
in one area versus another company operated versus franchise.
Our biggest opportunities in both company operated and franchise stores are in the
service area. I think we've mentioned that we're setting a very, very high standard for
ourselves well above the standard for the industry. And on the basis of that very high
standard we're finding that about half of our stores are not currently meeting that
standard. Thank you.
Operator
And our next question comes from Howard Penny [ph] of Sun Trust.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Thanks very much. Matt, you brought up the subject of your evaluating your
alternatives in Japan. I just wanted what are those alternatives? And Mary if you had
the same store sales data for the second quarter that would be very helpful? Thank
you.
You know, we're also certainly looking at different uses for chicken. And we had an
issue involving our McNuggets, which had a reasonably significant effect in March.
And we're through that problem now and our source of supply is continuing. And
that is probably also a factor in our results.
Operator
And our next question comes from Brett Levy [ph] of UBS Warburg.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Good afternoon. I just have a couple of quick ones. First, on the initiatives. What do
you still have in -- have on the docket that you haven't fully implemented, such as the
800 numbers and anything else?
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Secondly, I notice a predominant push towards chicken on your new products. Are
there any potential new burgers that are on the road? And third is, just on the
marketing side, have you heard any backlash from franchisees within your system,
that the message is still confusing? Thank you.
We will recover every customer or contact every customer that has an issue within 48
hours. So, that is not out there yet. That is yet to arrive. And, in addition, the -- on the
mystery shops and the grading of restaurants, we're very early in the process. So, at
this point, our operation consultants are visiting the restaurant, doing what we call
systems days. We're through all of the training. We've described the process. We've
begun the mystery shops.
But what's going to happen is that all this data will come together and the ops
consultants will meet with the franchisee or the store manager and talk about where
the opportunities for improvement are. And focus our resources on those
opportunities. That isn't happening yet.
The other pieces of this are that we have employee commitment surveys that'll tell us
what we need to do to better motivate our employees in the stores. And we don't
have that information in hand yet. And lastly, they're the incentives in our company
owned stores for the manager's to improve performance and take better care of
those customers, we won't begin paying those incentives until the second quarter of
2002.
And on the marketing issue, I think your question was are there concerns that our
franchises have about our marketing? I think that the franchisees and the company
agree that we can and will do a better job by focusing fewer messages. I think that
we're in some cases cluttering the airways and the minds of our customers with what
our messages are. And we need to have fewer and more focused messages. And I
think we and the franchises all agree on that.
So I think we view the new taste menu as an opportunity to go into -- some products
are a little bit different than what we've got on the core menu. The idea of the
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chicken select seems something that plays to McDonald's strength's I think in that
(inaudible) it's easy to eat on the run. And we have had some success with chicken,
but the chicken selects are a different type of offering.
And then with the upcoming chicken flat bread sandwich that too again it's
something different. And what we're hearing from customers is they want to see
something really different on the new taste menu and not necessarily just a burger
with a different topping. Not to say that we won't use the new taste menu for some
hamburger offerings in the future but in the near term you'll probably see us
continue with this focus on things that will be really new and different. Thanks.
Operator
And our next question comes from Andy Berish [ph] of Bank of America.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Hi, folks, two questions. First on European company operated margins flattish for the
first quarter with the solid five percent comps. Can you address leverage in the
business? I assume front counter cost with the euro introduction probably had some
impact, and if so anyway to quantify?
And then secondly, G&A costs were down on a dollar basis in the first quarter. I know
we've got $100 million of savings expected from what you thought ongoing levels
would have been, but I didn't think G&A would be down on a dollar amount, is that
going to continue?
On the G&A issue, for the -- you have to remember that a lot of our G&A doesn't roll
out (inaudible) throughout the year. There are some projects that are more likely to
contribute bigger dollars towards G&A, in the third and fourth quarters of the year.
And so, the best we can tell you is you shouldn't take this quarter's result and
multiply it by four to come up with the G&A for the year. That wouldn't work too well.
And we're going to save $100 million off of what we otherwise would have spent.
Other than that, probably, can't give you too much help.
On the issue about Europe's company operated margins, what's going on there is
that the big three markets, while they all had improved margins -- percentages over
last year, when you get beyond the big three -- you know, sort of the mid-tier market
in Europe, there's a lot of activity. Some of the big -- some of those markets had to
do a lot of importing of beef, which increased our food costs. And in other markets,
where the brand is a little bit newer to the market, we're still in a growth stage where
we're trying to build habits. And it's in some of those markets we never expected our
margins to be real strong. And that's pulling down the average a bit.
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And lastly, I would remind you that we said in October at the analyst meeting that,
for the year, we expected our overall operating margins to be about flat with last
year. And then, the last piece of it -- go ahead, Mary.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Thanks.
Operator
And our next question comes from Joe Buckley [ph] of Bear Stearns.
Q - Unidentified Participant
The question's basically on the same topic. (inaudible) in Europe. With Easter falling
on March 31, how much benefit do you think you really picked up in the month of
March? I mean, just kind of discuss how that might have impacted the business
happening the very last day of March.
And then, would you elaborate a little bit on the food cost? You mentioned
importing beef. Why did that occur or were there some other food cost items that
penalized margins? And then, very lastly, if you would just address Canada, which
looked like it had a very soft quarter.
In terms of the importation of beef, one example, in particular, was in Russia, where
there was an issue in Russia where there were concerns about Russian beef. And so
they began importing beef from Australia and it was at a much higher cost than the
Russian beef.
We believe that that situation has been resolved now and in the near future we'll be
able to start using Russian beef again. Although, what we hear is that that cost has
increased so it won't be quite like going back to last year's cost. That we'll still see
some increase on some pressure on that.
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And then there was another market, Sweden, that I think we had a similar situation.
There were a couple of other markets that had some changes in ownership or there
was at least one other market that had kind of a shift in ownership, bought some
franchise restaurants and those restaurants were under performing. And those had
lower sales that impacted their company operating margin at that market.
Operator
And our next question comes from Janice Meyer [ph] of CSFB.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Hi. Thanks. A couple of questions. On the U.S. domestic your -- it looks like your sales
were down year-over-year but your comps were flat and your units were actually a
little. So could you comment on why it looks like average unit volumes were down a
bit in the U.S.?
Also, if you look at Germany, France, U.K., obviously, Germany and France were hurt
by Mad Cow. France seems to come back pretty strong. Germany hasn't. Do you
have -- you're really overlapping some very easy sales comparisons and it doesn't
look like you've gotten the customers that you lost back. Do you think there's been a
permanent loss of customers in Europe from Mad Cow?
And then just finally, you talked a lot about Chicken Parmesan, can you talk about the
chicken selects and how that's do?
Q - Unidentified Participant
Company operated, correct.
Q - Unidentified Participant
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Yes.
Q - Unidentified Participant
OK. Thanks. And the other two?
And then lastly, on the chicken select issue, I haven't seen all of the numbers for the
U.S. I know that in the central division which is one-third of the U.S. that the chicken
select offering is about 50% more popular than chicken parmesan, in terms of the
number of people who tried it in the first six or seven days that we've had it on the
menu. So, it is doing well, as a separate item.
Operator
And our next question comes from Jeff Omahondro [ph] of Wacovia Securities.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Hello. I wonder if you could give us an update on your United States beef sourcing
strategies and how international is now being integrated in that. And what's leading
to that and what your outlook is.
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You know, we still expect the vast majority of our beef will continue to come from the
U.S. And the sources from which we're now taking some of our beef are places
where the USDA does inspect both in those other countries and when the beef
arrives here. And if you look at it as a percentage of our total purchases of beef, I
think it's tiny. It's probably one percent or less. But for the markets where we're
experimenting with it, it's 20 to 30% of beef purchases in those markets.
And it's an issue about which we're incredibly sensitive. You know, we have a terrific
relationship with the beef producers here in the U.S. We're going to do this in a way
that doesn't cause a lot of commotion among the beef producers. And we're going
to wait and see how this goes and, obviously, we're looking at the cost savings
versus the public relations issues that it creates for us. It's just a test. Thank you.
Operator
And our next question comes from Ken Fonick [ph] of Sanford and Bernstein [ph].
Q - Unidentified Participant
Can you please give your strategic rationale -- why did you did decide to accelerate
store openings in the United States compared to the last three or four years?
So that combined with the opportunities we have for relocating restaurants which we
sometimes do given the maturity of the United States. And rebuilding restaurants we
think continues to give us an opportunity to add 300 or so restaurants in the U.S. as
we move forward. It's about two percent on our total base so it's not a huge part of
our growth in the U.S. But with growing areas in the U.S., areas growing in
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population, we want to be where the customers are. And so that we want to continue
to take advantage of those opportunities, as long as we and our franchises are
earning good returns on those restaurants. Thank you.
Operator
And our next question comes from Mitch Slizer [ph] of Lehman Brothers.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Thank you. A few questions. First can you comment why you did lower your
advertising dollars in the U.S.? And will it return to the previous percentage level at
some point?
Second, the front counter service operation, would you say that's more of a customer
service initiative versus a speed of service initiative? I guess in others words, do you
think it will increase speed of service?
And lastly on interest expense can you comment on what it might hand out to be for
the full year? Thank you.
But let me emphasize that there a couple of factors going on here. It really didn't
effect the amount of national media advertising we're doing partly because media
costs are down a little bit. And also because some of the national money we're no
longer spending was going to sponsorships. I think we for instance we ceased our
sponsorship of NASCAR as an example.
On the interest expense issue, you know we've learned very early, and our career is
not to try to predict where interest rates will go. It's very clear to us that Mr.
Greenspan doesn't plan on doing anything in the next couple of months, but we
don't know what things will look like in the second half of the year.
And as a reminder, I know that at this point in time, roughly 55% of our debts it
floating rate debts. And that's the reason we expect interest rates to go up. And
because a lot of our debt is floating rate right now, we wouldn't expect that 24%
decline in interest expense to stay at that level through the remainder of the year.
And maybe the percent, later in the year, would be half that number.
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And then, in addition, it's a very similar system to really what we use for our drive
through today. And we know that when we focus on drive through speed of service,
we can cut down that time. So, we have -- you know, I wouldn't say we have it perfect
yet. I think that through our restaurant operations improvement process, this will be
one of the areas that will be improved as we go through and get feedback, both
from customers, through the mystery shopper program, as well as through our own
internal evaluations of evaluating each system in the restaurant.
So, we are, right now, trying to make sure that, within each of our restaurants, the
systems that are in place are being used most effectively. And so, I think that front
counter system will be those. That it's not it's not a panacea, moving to that new
system, but we do think it gives us the opportunity to reduce service times as well as
give customers a better experience. Thanks.
Operator
And our next question comes from Richard Diamond [ph] of Inward [ph] Capital.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Yes. Thank you, very much. I would like to ask to -- ask you to address competitive
dynamics in Japan. For example, I understand that Starbucks is offering food, but
McDonald's has responded by offering upscale gourmet coffee in its restaurants.
And we view coffee as a big opportunity for us. Some of the stores that are offering
coffee are also offering some premium pastries. So we agree, it's a competitive
environment, but we think that our premiere real estate locations and the power of
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our brand really give us a big advantage of that market. You know, a quick reminder,
our market share in Japan over the last 10 years which have been a touch 10 years in
that economy our market share has gone up 15% points. Thank you.
Operator
And our next question comes from Peter Oaks [ph] of Merrill Lynch.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Hi, good afternoon. Actually a different twist on the whole Mad Cow situation for bot
Europe and Japan. Do you have a sense as to where beef mix is Europe now versus
say pre BSE? And actually, do you have a sense as to the damage as to what that mix
looks like in Japan?
And then on other note, now that we've got kind of a country by country break down
of unit count for full year '01 it's clear you had net closings in a number of markets.
And Matt, I was just curious, if you think about your watch list of whether it be units
or even markets that probably deserve a little more attention, how far along are you
on this process of addressing some of the under performers? Particularly on what
could be some soft economies for some time? Thanks.
Clearly, part of what's going on in Japan is that there is a concern about beef, and
our brand is associated with beef and that is having some effect. So it's not like
people were eating a lot of beef before this all started. We always sold a lot of pork
and fish and chicken products in our Japanese stores.
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Latin America, a small number in Asia where we didn't like our returns. And we
always do this risk-reward analysis, what kind of capital are we putting at risk? And
what does success look like?
And we decided for the next few years in some of these markets that we didn't like
the risk reward ratio, so we dramatically pared back capital, and I know you're
familiar with that. And in Latin America, we're opening probably a third or a fourth as
many stores as we did a few years ago. The same thing is true in some other markets.
But it's limited to Latin America and some small parts of Asia.
The other thing we're doing for the markets, where we're not putting in additional
capita, we're also -- each market has developed a plan to get to cash flow break
even. And we're very carefully monitoring that plan. But I don't want to give you the
impression that we're completely pulling out of markets. That's not happening. But
we're being very, very careful with the capital we commit and, in many cases, we're
dramatically cutting G&A and getting alternative sources of supply chain in order to
help us bring down costs in line with the sales opportunities that exist in those
markets.
And a large part of this, especially in Latin America, is that the middle class, which we
depend on for our success, has shrunk and we don't think it's going to bounce back
in six months. It could bounce back in some of these markets in a year or two and
we're trying to right size for the opportunity.
Operator
And our next question comes from John Ivancoe [ph] of JP Morgan.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Oh, hi. Thanks. If we look at the stores that maybe were at the proper service
attributes from a QSE [ph] perspective, were they doing anything different in terms
of staffing levels or what they're paying their staff relative to a a control, perhaps, in
that same market, that were not at proper service levels? In other words, is it
anything structural or is it just, generally, better management from your outside
perspective right now. Thanks.
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But I don't think it's anything that we could say is structural. We're in the process of
trying to decompose all the data that we're collecting. One of the interesting things
that we've seen is that when we looked at the first month-and-a-half worth of mystery
shops, we looked at one market in a lot of detail and we found that the stores that
had the very highest QSE [ph] scores, compared to the TV market they were in, had
comps that were more than seven points higher than the stores that had the worst
QSE [ph].
And you know, that kind of information is very motivating to us. But I don't yet have
any single thing we can point to, to say this one item makes the difference. I think
that we believe, when we look at our company operated stores, that incentives for
the manager of the store that are tied to QSE [ph] and to measurable items, are a key
part of this. And so, in the stores where we have complete control -- the 15% that are
company operated stores -- this quarter, we're beginning significant bonus
payments to store managers who do a good job of taking care of their customers.
And the amount of bonus that can be earned by a store manager of a company-
operated store is several multiples of what it used to be.
Operator
And our next question comes from Alan Hickock [ph] of U.S. Bank.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Mary, you mentioned, I want to go back to the value test and maybe using this as a
proxy for the roll out for other parts of the country. But I think your comment was that
L.A. is satisfied with early results of the value testing. You mentioned that there's
been changes to that test in the production of items.
Can you tell us what does satisfied with early results me? Can you give us a sense for
sales have moved from X to X plus, as a barometer, please?
When I say they're satisfied with it, I say that they're satisfied that they're getting
incremental sales and profits from this piece of this strategy. I don't know what their
numbers, you know they've only been doing since January and then they made
some changes in March, so I can't tell you what the full three month results are. But
clearly when we were looking at this back even in February, before they made the
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changes, they were saying it was adding incremental sales. They fully recognized that
it wasn't enough to completely turnaround their sales trends and they needed to be
doing some other things.
So I think well one thing we've learned is that combined efforts in our business are
what work best. You can't necessarily rely on just one driver of your sales and that's
because customers different customers are motivated by many different factors. So
the -- we continue to believe that every day value is an important motivator for a
group of customers and we want to find the most effective way to deliver that to
them. But at the same time, as you see in the marketplace, we're also looking to try
to add variety and brand that variety through our new taste menu. Thanks.
Operator
And our next question comes from Paul Westra [ph] of Robertson Stephens.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Hi, good afternoon. Some follow ups.
First European franchise margins which were up 50 basis point. Can you talk about if
that was a more normalized level since we're through most of the rent relief?
B, following up on the interest expense comment you said the year, I guess the full
year could decline could be half. So should be at a flat year-over-year run rate on the
interest expense by year end?
And then just quickly if you can comment on Latin America, not much talked about it.
Could talk about Brazil? You talked about Argentina pulling the sales down. Are we
seeing some turnaround or some flattening performance in Brazil? Thank you.
So, whether this is a normalized run rate, again, their comps were pretty strong in the
first quarter, particularly in March. So, I think if business continues to stay strong,
which we expect it will, I would think there's -- you know, it's probably reasonable to
assume that we could see some pickup in the franchise margin for the year in
Europe, just driven by the strong comparable sales results.
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But quarter by quarter, we're not going to try to predict what it will be. Again, about
55% of our debt portfolio is floating rate interest right now. I don't expect that
number to change, significantly, by the end of the year. So, Paul [ph], you can kind of
make your own prediction about what will happen to floating rate interest rates and
apply that to our debt portfolio and probably come up with your own number, which
might be as good as ours.
And then, on the issue of Brazil and Argentina, just some very broad guidance. Brazil
is far and away the biggest market. Latin America was negative 5.5. But I think it's
safe to say that Argentina's comp was a little worse that the overall Latin America
comp for the quarter. And Brazil's was a little better than the overall.
Operator
And our next question comes from Dave Kolpak [ph] of Victory Capital Management.
Q - Unidentified Participant
Hi, Matt. Hi, Mary. I had a question about your presence in the salad category in the
U.S. I'm wondering if you could give us some information on salads as a percent of
your sales, how they performed in the first quarter. And then, if there are any kind of
new salad products in test market right now. Thank you.
Having said that, I think that our new Shaker Salad program kind of reinvigorated our
salad business when we introduced it a couple of years ago. And we certainly have
been watching what one of our competitors has recently done with their new salad
program with interest. Now, again, I think they're customer base is a little bit different
than hours. I think it's probably always been a little bit more -- a customer that's a
little bit more driven by that type of a product.
But we are right now looking at a couple of options with our salads but it's way too
early to comment on where we'll where those decisions will come out. But there is
some work being done. I don't believe any of it is in the restaurants right now. So I
don't think there's any test markets that I could point you to.
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The shaker salads did improve our mix of business that was driven by salads, but it's
not one of the major drivers clearly of our business.
With that, I think we'll wrap up. We're right at the hour timeframe here. So I'd like to
ask Matt to conclude with a brief comment.
Mary and I thank you for your interest in McDonald's and goodbye.
Operator
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