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NSA-505

External Confirmation
Inquiry

Inside the entity Outside the entity

External Confirmation
Management TCWG

They are the part of NSA 580


External confirmation

Audit evidence obtained:


As a direct written response
To the auditor from a third party
In paper/electronic/ other forms

*External confirmation are frequently used in relation to


account balances and their component, but need not to be
restricted to these items.
Example of situations where external
confirmations are used

Bank balances and other info from bankers.


Account receivable / payable balances
Loans from lenders
Investment purchased from stockbrokers
but not delivered at balance sheet date
 stock held by third party(Consignment)
Property title deed held by lawyers.
Factors to be considered while designing a
confirmation request
• The assertions being addressed
• The layout and presentation of the confirmation of the
confirmation request.
• Prior experience on the audit or similar engagement
• The ability of the confirmation to provide the
requested info.
• Management authorization to the confirming partied to
respond to the auditor.
• Specific identified risk of material misstatement,
including fraud risk.
Mgmt refuse to allow the auditor to not to
seek external conf.

Management reason + Viability there of

Invalid Valid
Auditor won’t agree because it
is limitation of scope. Agree + Perform Alternative Pr.

Qualified/Disclaimer of opinion okay


Management refusal to allow the auditor to send
a confirmation request:

• The auditor should consider whether there are valid


ground for such a request and obtain evidence to support
the same.
• The should ask the mgmt to submit it’s request in
written form, dealing therein the reason for such a
request
• After that, the auditor should apply alternative
procedure to obtain SAAE
External confirmation process

• Positive confirmation Negative confirmation


Positive Confirmation Negative confirmation
Reply in any case(either agrees Reply only in case of
or disagrees) Disagreement
Your balance is Rs, 10000 as per Your balance is Rs, 10000 as
mgmt , confirm if you per please reply in case of
agree/disagree with same. Disagreement.
Is used when: Is used when:
RISK IS HIGH, DOUBT IS RISK IS LOW, DOUBT IS LOW
HIGH AND BALANCE IS ALSO AND BALANCE IS ALSO LOW
HIGH
Result of the external confirmation
procedure:

• If the auditor identifies factors that gave rise to


• Doubt about the
• Reliability of the response to a confirmation
request,
• The auditor should obtain further audit evidence
Factors that may indicates doubt about the
reliability of a response

• Was received by the auditor indirectly or,


• Appeared not to come from the originally
intended confirming party.

Perform alternative auditor procedure


•Thank you

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