Professional Documents
Culture Documents
History of The Peloponnesian War
History of The Peloponnesian War
On method
METHOD
VERY LITTLE DISCLOSED BY AUTHOR ABOUT HIS METHOD
not typical historian: does not disclose sources (avoids dealing with historical
controversies and differences of opinion)
No independent evidence to corroborate the facts
YET
brief hint at method (quote 1.22/ p. 47)
accuracy and understanding of events without adornment
checking and double checking
did not consult documents as much as he did people (what he saw himself
(autopsy) ; oral reports and testimony he obtained from the many witnesses he
questioned)
invented own system of dating the war (by dividing each war year into ‘winter’
and ‘summer)
“rational reconstruction and deduction” to fill in gaps in the evidence and to
discern causal sequences.
Important quotes
“it was hard for me, and for others who reported them to
me, to recollect the exact words. I have therefore put into
the mouth of each speaker the sentiments most proper to
the occasion [ta deonta malista], expressed as I thought
he would be likely to express them, while at the same
time I endeavored, as nearly as I could, to give the
general purport [xumpasa gnome] of what was actually
said [alethos lechthenton].” (1.22)
On speeches
SPEECHES
Reasons:
“If they aim at something and do not get it, they think that they have been deprived of what
belonged to them already; whereas, if their enterprise is successful, they regard their success as
nothing compared to what they will do next” (1.70)
“Of them alone it may be said that they possess a thing almost as soon as they have begun to
desire it, so quickly with them does action follow upon decision.” (1.70
Important quotes
The Athenian Representatives 1.72-78
“ We did not gain this empire by force. It came to us at a time when you were
unwilling to fight on to the end against the Persians.” (1.75)
“…either to govern strongly or to endanger your own security.” (1.76)
“We have done nothing extraordinary, nothing contrary to human nature in
accepting an empire when it was offered to us then refusing to give it up.” (1.76)
“ It has always been a rule that the weak should be subject to the strong.” (1.76)
“Those who really deserve praise are the people who while human enough to
enjoy power, nevertheless pay more attention to justice than they are
compelled to do by their situation.” (1.76)
“People , in fact, seem to feel more strongly about their legal wrongs than about
the wrongs inflicted on them by violence” (1.77)
“And when people are entering upon a war they do things the wrong way round.
Action comes first, and it is only when they have already suffered that they
begin to think.” (1.78)
Important quotes
The Spartan King Archidamus 1.80-86
“What sort of war, then, are we going to fight? If we can neither defeat them at sea
nor take away from them the resources on which their navy depends, we shall do
ourselves more harm then good.” (1.80)
“…we should not threaten war too openly, though at the same time we should make it
clear that we are not going to let them have their way.” (1.80)
“If you take something on before you are ready for it, hurry at the beginning will mean
delay at the end… ‘Slow’ and ‘cautious’ can equally be ‘wise’ and ‘sensible’.” (1.84)
“Because of our well ordered life we are both brave in war and wise in council. Brave
because self-control is based upon a sense of honor, and honor is based on courage.
And we are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down upon our
laws and customs, and are too rigorously trained in self-control to be able to
disobey them.” (1.84)
“…there is not a great difference between the way we think and the way others think,
…it is impossible to calculate accurately events that are determined by chance.”
(1.84)
Causes of War
MELIANS ATHENIANS
MELIANS
ATHENIANS
6. “Our opinion of the gods and our knowledge of men
6. righteous case versus
lead us to conclude that it is a general and necessary law of
unrighteous nature to rule whatever one can. This law was not a law we
made ourselves, nor where we the first to act upon it . . . we
know that you or anybody else with the same power as ours,
would be acting precisely in the same way.” (5.105).
7. hope for the favor of 7. You are foolish to expect help from the Spartans:
the gods or for aid o in their dealings with others, the Spartans always
from their kinsmen equate honor with what is agreeable and of interest
the Spartans. to them
o “…if one follows one’s self interest one wants to be
safe, whereas the path of honor and justice involves
one in danger.” (5.107)
o even if they should send help, Athens has never once
retired from a siege for fear of attack by another
enemy .
Consequences