ROMAN CATHOLIC

CHURCH: TRUE
CHURCH
In this premise, I will do whatever I can, to stand as negative
to negate this premise with credible and reliable arguments
 INTRODUCTION
In our topic, I will make it sure that:
1. All of my arguments and contentions are Bible based
with the support of reliable references
2. All of my references are credible and not based on false
claims, if any of us misuse or use a forge/fabricated
references, may the Lord be our witness and deliver judgment
to us.
 INTRODUCTION
There are good arguments that proves that the Roman
Catholic Church IS NOT THE TRUE CHURCH

There are NO GOOD arguments that can prove that

the Roman Catholic Church IS THE TRUE CHURCH
 There are good arguments that proves that the
Roman Catholic Church IS NOT THE TRUE CHURCH

Clarification#1
The word catholic (derived via Late Latin catholicus, from
the Greek adjective καθολικός katholikos 'universal') “catholic".

~Oxford English Dictionary (Online ed.). Oxford University Press.

 There are good arguments that proves that the
Roman Catholic Church IS NOT THE TRUE CHURCH

Clarification#2
 Clarification#1: Wala tayong problema sa word na
catholic dahil ito ay adjective at hindi proper noun.
Clarification#2: Wala tayong problema na ang True
Church ay founded by Jesus Christ dahil sa ating pag
aaralan, lalabas na ang Roman Catholic Church(RCC)
ay hindi naman True Church at hindi sila ang tinayo ng
Panginoon.
 OUR CONCERN TO NEGATE THE
RCC’S CLAIM THAT THEY ARE THE
TRUE CHURCH:

PETER’S SUPREMACY
APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION
ARGUMENT#1: PETER IS NOT THE ROCK IN MAT
16:18-19. AND THEREFORE THE CHURCH WAS NOT
FOUNDED UPON PETER BUT UPON THE ROCK

PREMISE 1: If si PETER ANG “ROCK” na tinutukoy sa MAT 16:18

PREMISE 2: Therefore, makikita natin na ang STATEMENT ng Panginoon
is “…thou Art Peter, and upon you I will build my church”
Then, Therefore: Tama ang mga RCC na si PEDRO ANG TINUTUKOY NA
ROCK AT SIYA NGA ANG FOUNDATION
ARGUMENT FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
GRAMMAR

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and
upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates
of hell shall not prevail against it.”
~Mat 16:18(Bible based)

- Compare-
“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and
upon (YOU or UPON IT) , I will build my church; and
the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”
~Mat 16:18(If Peter is the Rock)(RCC CONCLUSION)
ARGUMENT FROM THE GENDER OF THE
SUBJECTS

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art

Peter(petros), and upon this rock(petra) I will build
my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail
against it.”
~Mat 16:18(Bible based)
ARGUMENT FROM THE GENDER OF THE
SUBJECTS

“one of the biggest contributor in

exegesis is knowing and
understanding the gender of the
subjects”
 ARGUMENT FROM THE GENDER OF THE
SUBJECTS

SPANISH LANGUAGE
EL PAPA(MASCULINE) THE POPE
LA PAPA(FEMININE)THE POTATO
ARGUMENT FROM THE GENDER OF THE
SUBJECTS

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art

Peter(petros), and upon this rock(petra) I will build
my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail
against it.”
~Mat 16:18(Bible based)
ARGUMENT FROM THE GENDER OF THE
SUBJECTS

et ego dico tibi quia tu es Petrus et

super hanc petram aedificabo
ecclesiam meam et portae inferi non
praevalebunt adversum eam
~Mat 16:18
ARGUMENT FROM THE GENDER OF THE
SUBJECTS
 “…the early church fathers were fairly evenly split between two positions:
that the rock in Mat 16:19 referred to Peter’s confession or to Christ
Himself(very few held the view that Peter was the rock)” ~Examples of
church fathers who associated Peter’s confession with Mat 16:19-20 include
Gregory of Nyssa, Ambrose, Ephiphanus and Chrysostom; those who
associated the rock with Christ include Jerome and Augustine. Some
recognized both Christ and Peter’s confession as the foundation of the
Church, e.g Cyril of Alexandria and Theodoret. Tertullian was one of the few
who wrote that the church was built on peter

~Is the Roman Catholic Church the Only Church of Christ? Pg 8.

 “Among the early church fathers 17
interpreted the Rock as being Peter, 44
interpreted it as being Peter’s faith….”

~Henry T. Hudson, Papal power: Its Origins and

Development(Hertfordshire: Evangelical Press, 1981).
Therefore, if ipagpipilitan ng mga RCC na ang bato
dito kung saan itinayo ang iglesia ay si Pedro then,
magkakaroon ng problema ang pagkakasulat ni
Mateo, 1st redundancy 2nd Pagbabago ng gender ng
Petros at Petra pero iisa lang pala ng meaning.

In our conclusion in this premise, we can fairly

conclude that the Rock is non other Jesus not Peter
and therefore, RCC’s interpretation to support their
claim in connection with true church is false.
Therefore from these statement, the Roman Catholic
Church is NOT THE TRUE CHURCH
 OUR CONCERN TO NEGATE THE
RCC’S CLAIM THAT THEY ARE THE
TRUE CHURCH:

PETER’S SUPREMACY
APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION
ARGUMENT#2: TRUE CHURCH CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED THROUGH APOSTOLIC
SUCCESSION BECAUSE PETER NEVER BECAME THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH

“THEREFORE, IF APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION IS TRUE

THEN THE RCC IS THE TRUE CHURCH”

PREMISE 1: PETER NEVER BECAME THE HEAD/POPE OF THE

CHURCH OR EVEN THE SUPREME APOSTLE

PREMISE 2: THEREFORE, THERES NO SUCH THING AS

APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION

THEREFORE, THERES NO RCC APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION AND

RCC DOES NOT DERIVE THEIR OFFICE FROM THE APOSTLES
Who said to her: What wilt thou? She saith to
him: say that these my two sons may sit, the
one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left,
in thy kingdom. ~Mat 20:21

Mother-like she is interested in her sons' career, but it appears, that she
profoundly misreads its true character. Our Lord's 'kingdom' though
doubtless spiritual is for her, as for the expectant Jews in general, a place
also for honours as the world knows them—a Religion-State. For James and
John (cf. 4:21) she asks the first and second rank in the King's hierarchy.
~Catholic Commentary
 “But when Peter was come to Antioch, I [Paul]
withstood him to the face, because he was to be
blamed. ... And the other Jews dissembled likewise
with him. Insomuch that Barnabas also was carried
away with their dissimulation. But when I [Paul] saw
that they walked not uprightly according to the truth
of the gospel, I [Paul] said unto Peter before them
all, If thou, being a Jew, lives after the manner of
Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compels thou
the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?”
~Galatians 2:11
 “I testify you, brethren, that the gospel which was
preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of
man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus
Christ.” If any man preach any other gospel unto you than
that you have received, let him be accursed.” “But though
we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto
you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.”
~Galatians 1:11,12, 9, 8.
 “Appoint, therefore, for yourselves,
bishops and deacons worthy of the Lord,
men meek, and not lovers of money, and
truthful and proved; for they also render to
you the service of prophets and teachers”
(15, emphasis added, ca. AD 110-130).
“We have learned from none others the
plan of our salvation, than from those
through whom the Gospel has come
down to us, which they did at one time
proclaim in public, and, at a later period,
by the will of God, handed down to us in
the Scriptures, to be the ground and
pillar of our faith” (Against Heresies, 3.1,
Ireneus
 How can be the Church be called Apostolic?
Consider what Tertullian wrote ca. AD 200.

“And by this very Rule [a precursor of the Nicene Creed] they

will be approved of other churches also, which are every day
planted, and which though they do not derive immediately
from the Apostles, or Apostolic Men, as being much later in
time to them, do yet agree with them in the very same Faith,
and by virtue of that harmony and agreement, have no less a
right and title (than the Churches planted by the Apostles) to
be called Apostolic” (The Prescription against Heretics, 32,
emphasis added).
The Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Old Catholic,
Swedish Lutheran, and Anglican churches accept the
doctrine of apostolic succession … This does not
mean, however, that each of these groups
necessarily accepts the ministries of the other
groups as valid.

["apostolic succession." Encyclopedia Britannica.

Encyclopedia Britannica Ultimate Reference Suite.
Chicago: Encyclopedia Britannica, 2010.]
“The foregoing list is based generally on the
catalog of Popes given in the Annuario
Pontificio, the official Vatican yearbook, with
some changes dictated by recent scholarly
research. It should be noted that the legitimacy
of certain popes…is still controverted.”

[Question and Answers on the Pope and the

Papacy p.84]
At this point, as again in the mid-eleventh century,
we come across elections in which problems of
harmonizing historical criteria and those of theology
and canon law make it impossible to decide clearly
which side possessed the legitimacy whose factual
existence guarantees the unbroken lawful
succession of the successors of Saint Peter. The
uncertainty that in some cases results has made it
advisable to abandon the assignation of successive
numbers in the list of the popes.

~Annuario Pontifico, Pg 12